Episode Discussion: TFGH

[nilyank]

I actually thought that point of having Robert being forced to retired from the WSB was so that he could eventually get his job as Police Commissioner. We found out earlier that Laura asked Mac to take over as a placeholder while Jordan recovers. But Jordan is a terrible and Robert is Robert. I am totally fine if Jordan loses her job to Robert after the nonsense she pulled with Franco to catch the serial killer.

[ciarra]

1 hour ago, nilyank said:

I am totally fine if Jordan loses her job to Robert

Yeah, but just like A.J. who was fat, Robert is old.  Too old to be a romantic interest for Anna.  Too old to be commish.  🙄

[statsgirl]

I would be fine if Jordan loses her job to Robert after the PCPD failed to realize that there was a date burglar when Girl Reporter did.

23 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

Also, while we're at it, they need to stop with Valentin's efforts at French. I fall into an eye roll induced coma every time he chokes out "mon petit" or maybe he's saying "ma petite." Either way, stop. We know, he speaks French and Charlotte is the smartest creepy child who ever smarted.

Every time I hear Valentin speak French, I wonder "Have I really lost my French so much?" because I don't understand what he's saying.  And then I watch French TV and I am relieved that I've still got it.

I wish they would stop with the French phrases thrown into the middle of conversations in front of others. It's pretentious and rude.

[YaddaYadda]

54 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Every time I hear Valentin speak French, I wonder "Have I really lost my French so much?" because I don't understand what he's saying.  And then I watch French TV and I am relieved that I've still got it.

I'm French and I'm sure there's nothing wrong with your French. It doesn't make Valentin less than the scumbag that he is.

[lb60]

Based on the school districts I've worked in:

On 6/22/2019 at 5:21 PM, ciarra said:

I find it hilarious that a 3rd grade teacher has all this time on her hands hanging around an empty classroom while her students are elsewhere, "art class", "assembly".  From what I remember of grade school, you were stuck all day with the same teacher, and if you went to assembly, your teacher was required to go too. 

Teachers get one prep period a day, which is when the kids go to special. If there's an assembly during special, the special area teacher is responsible for the kids.

On 6/22/2019 at 5:29 PM, perkie1968 said:

Are there only two children in that class?!!

I'm guessing the principal will offer Willow the fourth grade next year, so that we can keep having parent/teacher interaction with the same group of kids.  

The number of desks (looks like between 9 and 12) in her class drives me nuts. That would be a special ed or resource room class.

Principal Whateverhisnameis would never have fired Willow to begin with. All that goes through the Board of Education, which PC doesn't seem to have. We call my principal Mrs. Whatshername, not Principal Whatshername. 

On 6/22/2019 at 6:25 PM, YaddaYadda said:

That means Charlotte won't be going into that advanced program. 

Which she doesn't get admitted to just because Nina and Valentin think she's the smartest snowflake to ever sparkle.

There's also no way you would do awards day (and I think Charlotte mentioned Field Day) on the last day of school. Plus, I guess Willow is just going to leave all her bulletin board decorations up and projects all over the place.

Don't even get me started on the (lack of) security at PC Elementary.

Ugh! I know it's a soap, with a limited budget, but not one of TIIC knows a teacher or has been in a school lately.

I might be taking this too seriously, but the school scenes make me stabby!

Not that I was a fan of OldNina, but I do not like NuNina.

Edited June 23, 2019 by lb60

[dubbel zout]

24 minutes ago, lb60 said:

Principal Whateverhisnameis would never have fired Willow to begin with. All that goes through the Board of Education

Not to mention the teacher's union, which would totally fight the dismissal.

[Ambrosefolly]

28 minutes ago, lb60 said:

Based on the school districts I've worked in:

Teachers get one prep period a day, which is when the kids go to special. If there's an assembly during special, the special area teacher is responsible for the kids.

The number of desks (looks like between 9 and 12) in her class drives me nuts. That would be a special ed or resource room class.

Principal Whateverhisnameis would never have fired Willow to begin with. All that goes through the Board of Education, which PC doesn't seem to have. We call my principal Mrs. Whatshername, not Principal Whatshername. 

Which she doesn't get admitted to just because Nina and Valentin think she's the smartest snowflake to ever sparkle.

There's also no way you would do awards day (and I think Charlotte mentioned Field Day) on the last day of school. Plus, I guess Willow is just going to leave all her bulletin board decorations up and projects all over the place.

Don't even get me started on the (lack of) security at PC Elementary.

Ugh! I know it's a soap, with a limited budget, but not one of TIIC knows a teacher or has been in a school lately.

I might be taking this too seriously, but the school scenes make me stabby!

Not that I was a fan of OldNina, but I do not like NuNina.

The show can't get hospital and medicine right and it is on the tin.  Don't expect them to get schooling right. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

7 hours ago, mbluecpa said:

That’s what we’re led to believe. At Peter’s sad birthday party, Robert came in and said the WSB was forcing him into retirement, effective immediately. It seemed purposeless so I figured it was some weird super-undercover thing, but likely it was just a plot point for the subsequent overheard phone conversation with his replacement. 

This would be Robert’s third or fourth “forced retirement” I believe?😆😆

6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I wondered about the past tense, too. I can buy they aren't in regular communication, but that doesn't mean they aren't still friends.

I think Robert was legit forced out, as he also told Anna about before she left, IIRC.

I ❤️❤️❤️❤️ This meme!!!!🥰🥰🥰

Yeah, until Robert is required to go on another mission once Anna returns.🙄🙄

This FAKAKTA Show.😒😒😒

[ByaNose]

I miss Nina being slightly crazy & unhinged. They aren’t currently writing Cynthia Watros like that though. I know she’s capable of it but nuNina is kind of boring. I know it’s only been a few episodes but if I didn’t know of the casting I’d be like, “Who’s the new blonde?”. I really wish MS was able play the Sasha reveal before she left. It was a payoff the viewers deserved. It’s not going to have nearly the impact when it’s revealed now. They could have still revealed it with MS and had her go batshit crazy and left PC. Instead, nuNina started the following week and wasn’t even introduced. It was a horrible transition of the actresses. 

[WendyCR72]

2 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I really wish MS was able play the Sasha reveal before she left. It was a payoff the viewers deserved. It’s not going to have nearly the impact when it’s revealed now.

Objectively, that may be true. But from everything I read, no one really seemed to give a shit about this story. So is it really a cheat if not many (notice I did not say ALL) cared to begin with?

[tvgoddess]

17 hours ago, lb60 said:

Don't even get me started on the (lack of) security at PC Elementary.

That's been really irking me too. Are we supposed to believe in today's day and age, anyone can just walk in at all times?

17 hours ago, lb60 said:

Not that I was a fan of OldNina, but I do not like NuNina.

Well said. Maybe we need to wait a little bit for her to bring her Annie, but I didn't even like her scenes with Curtis. Forget Valentin. The romantic cooing made me want to drive a stake through my eyes.

13 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I miss Nina being slightly crazy & unhinged. They aren’t currently writing Cynthia Watros like that though. I know she’s capable of it but nuNina is kind of boring. I know it’s only been a few episodes but if I didn’t know of the casting I’d be like, “Who’s the new blonde?”. I really wish MS was able play the Sasha reveal before she left. It was a payoff the viewers deserved. It’s not going to have nearly the impact when it’s revealed now. They could have still revealed it with MS and had her go batshit crazy and left PC. Instead, nuNina started the following week and wasn’t even introduced. It was a horrible transition of the actresses. 

All of THIS.

I'm only about halfway through last week, but focusing on Oscar, Peter, and CarSon is a huge drawback. So tiring and annoying at the same time.

[sacrebleu]

I am dreading the plotpoint-itis that means a custody judge tosses out HIPPA (Shiloh charming medical info out of a random clerk) because Willow was too nice to leave school.

This case should die here-- but it won't. 

[statsgirl]

Did I miss when Bobbie got her medical degree? Brad came to the hospital with what he said were bad stomach pains, why doesn't he get to see a doctor? (Also JZ really stumbled over those test namess.) Why is Carly blaming Brad for Bobbie not knowing the problems?  Why does everyone know that Julian destroyed the records? That's so stupid.

I hate this Willow storyline. Why couldn't Diane have asked for a different court time? Willow is on a long summer break starting tomorrow.

I liked the scenes with Jax and Joss. There should be more of those. I wanted to smack Joss for her attitude to Ava, Carly and Sonny didn't bother to teach her manners.  Jax should have asked her first if she wants an internship instead of doing nothing all summer except clean up after Avery.

Nina is so clueless at being a businesswoman, no matter how many times they tell me she's awesome. You don't have your husband in with you in a business meeting.

Again with the stupid "My disability pay won't cover my medical expenses" from Jordan. And way to make me dislike Curtis, show,

[dubbel zout]

3 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Did I miss when Bobbie got her medical degree? Brad came to the hospital with what he said were bad stomach pains, why doesn't he get to see a doctor? (Also JZ really stumbled over those test namess.) Why is Carly blaming Brad for Bobbie not knowing the problems? 

I had to laugh at Carly yelling "MOM!" at Bobbie. Uh, she's at work—at a hospital! But of course Carly expects everyone to drop everything for her convenience.

10 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I liked the scenes with Jax and Joss. There should be more of those.

"You want to push the button?" Hee.

I feel for Ava that Lauren is dead, and died in a horrible way, but the relationship is all on Ava. She's the one who went scorched earth there.

21 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

And way to make me dislike Curtis, show,

Also, gross that Diane called Chase about Willow, and that's when people are like, "Oh, right, it must be important."

And as always, shut up, Nina. It's the last day of school. What priorities could there be?

Lulu is one to talk about rushing off in the middle of things.

How on earth can the judge find in favor of Shiloh? He broke the law! Ugh, this fakakta show. Here is my new rage-blackout story, clearly.

[YaddaYadda]

Oh, Julian! That slap was so telegraphed, you could have dodged it.

And look at insecure scumbag Valentin having to tag along with Neens because God forbid she's alone to interact with an attractive man. How is this man the scariest Cassadine that fucking Helena who had no fear of man, god, devil was scared of him? Seriously, Valentin, just scurry away, roach. 

I get the people in Willow's classroom were excited about giving her the news, but the woman has a life outside her students and the school. And STFU, Nina, whose life mostly revolves around a man who has lied to her more often than not. Maybe Nina is the one in need of exit therapy from the Cult of the Valentin.

Shiloh really does have a type, doesn't he. 

[rur]

Why did Carly need to be in the exam room with Bobby and Brad? Is there nowhere she cannot insert herself? 

Even important meetings aside, how come not a single parent got a glimmer of a thought that a teacher might not want to stay late on that last day of school? Or think that a teacher who kept trying to leave might really have made an appointment? (And we'll just -- please -- forget that the students were on a field day. Writers, couldn't you have just kind of wandered into the realm of believability by having the kids go home early on the last day? Diane had already stated that the hearing was at 3:00 p.m.)

Why does Bobbie think she has the right to slap Julian? I certainly hope he brings up Cheryl to her tomorrow. 

What I want now is for Willow to have had her baby at a decent hospital that is terrible at keeping records. I want that baby to somehow be Nelle's with someone who is now dead. That'll get Mikey out of the picture altogether and then Nelle will give custody to Brad and Lucas. Willow can go look elsewhere for her baby.

[BlancheDevoreaux]

This fakakta show. Why is Shiloh not in jail? Okay, so he's got someone else to take credit for the drugging. He still tried to rape Sam. He did rape Willow who could be a witness for prosecution of nothing else. And now he gets hipaa thrown out? Diane can get Sonny and Jason out of murder charges but can't actually win when the law is on her side. I think I hate this show. I certainly hate the writers. Only acceptable way out of this is Nelle gets released, seduces Shiloh, and kills him to keep everything under wraps.

[FilmTVGeek80]

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And also, as Britt and Nelle too, I think, kinda rightly noted, he's protecting that child from a family that is constantly under threat from being shot, being blown up by bombs, etc.  It doesn't excuse it, obviously, but I'm not looking forward to murderers like Sonny and Jason, mob molls like Carly and Sam, and even drug addicts like Dr. Michael Easton, say, bellowing about Brad being the worst person on Earth.

Finn may be a drug addict but that doesn't make him a bad person. I would say based on what we've seen on-screen that, yeah, Finn is a better person than Brad. Finn never tried to blackmail someone into sex like I believe Brad tried to do with Michael. Brad is a criminal several times over and I think - though I don't remember if I'm right - that this baby swap with Wiley isn't the first time he's kept someone from their kid.

I get the argument that people are making about Wiley being safer with Brad and Lucas than with Michael. I hate Sonny and Carly and Jason as much as the next guy and would have no real issue with Michael never finding out the truth, but I have difficulty with that argument because it's not like Brad and Lucas are distancing themselves from Carly and her family. I don't see how Wiley is any safer being Carly's nephew (who she has full access to) versus being her grandson. What makes it worse is that Lucas is keeping (most of the time) Julian from Wiley someone who isn't even in the mob anymore and yet has no issue with Sonny et al. being around their kid. If Lucas or Brad had truly expressed issues with the Corinthii's lifestyle they would have a better leg to stand on if they wanted to argue Wiley would be safer with them.

On 6/23/2019 at 2:20 PM, nilyank said:

We found out earlier that Laura asked Mac to take over as a placeholder while Jordan recovers. But Jordan is a terrible and Robert is Robert. I am totally fine if Jordan loses her job to Robert after the nonsense she pulled with Franco to catch the serial killer.

What makes anyone think Robert would be a better police commissioner than Jordan? Jordan (and basically all modern day soap commissioners) is bad at her job because the plot dictates it because most of the characters are criminals who can't go to jail unless they're being written off the show. Robert would be just as bad as Jordan just as Anna was bad before her.

26 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I feel for Ava that Lauren is dead, and died in a horrible way, but the relationship is all on Ava. She's the one who went scorched earth there.

I don't agree the problems in their relationship were all on Ava. The bulk of them was but their last disagreement was all on Kiki given that Kiki was the one who slept with her mother's boyfriend and never expressed a scintilla of remorse over it.

[dubbel zout]

4 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

32 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I feel for Ava that Lauren is dead, and died in a horrible way, but the relationship is all on Ava. She's the one who went scorched earth there.

 I don't agree the problems in their relationship were all on Ava. The bulk of them was but their last disagreement was all on Kiki given that Kiki was the one who slept with her mother's boyfriend and never expressed a scintilla of remorse over it.

Lauren didn't help things, certainly. Ava is the parent, though, and should have been the bigger person. She chose not to be.

I don't think Ava has much moral high ground about Lauren sleeping with Griffin, given that Ava slept with Morgan.  But it definitely shows the Jerome women have terrible taste in men.

[perkie1968]

2 hours ago, tvgoddess said:

Are we supposed to believe in today's day and age, anyone can just walk in at all times?

This drives me insane.  I got a call from my kid's school that she'd cracked her head open and I needed to go and pick her up and take her to emerg for staples.  They had to buzz me in at the front door, I had to sign in at the office and I needed to be escorted up to her class to get her backpack and jacket even though they knew why I was there and I've been with the school for 17 years.   Yet, here, people waltz in and out whenever they want.  

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

Did I miss when Bobbie got her medical degree? Brad came to the hospital with what he said were bad stomach pains, why doesn't he get to see a doctor?

She said she checked him out and said he had no symptoms other than mild high blood pressure.  She's been a nurse for a gazillion years and as my sister is a nurse and tells me all the time that nurses know more than the doctors' do.  

[ulkis]

Yeah, Valentin is looking grade A pathetic in this story. One episode of Nina saying Jax was cool and he's flipping out.

[statsgirl]

10 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

 Only acceptable way out of this is Nelle gets released, seduces Shiloh, and kills him to keep everything under wraps.

I wants!

We complain that the medical stuff is bad but I think the legal stuff is even worse. It's like the judges are given instructions by the writers on how to rule irrespective of what's going on or any laws.

2 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

She said she checked him out and said he had no symptoms other than mild high blood pressure.  She's been a nurse for a gazillion years and as my sister is a nurse and tells me all the time that nurses know more than the doctors' do.  

Well he had a lot of pain, that's a symptom. Did she do a CBC to see if he had an elevated white count or just decide it was all in his head?

I have respect for nurses, I had a part-time job as a ward clerk in ER during college and those nurses were great.  But Bobbie is an administrator now, she hasn't been a floor nurse for years and presumably hasn't been reading the clinical journals, and her one or two years of nursing school doesn't equal a doctor's training.  Brad came to the hospital looking for a doctor, he deserves to see a doctor, not his ex-nurse mother-in-law.

[Kiki777]

37 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

What makes anyone think Robert would be a better police commissioner than Jordan?

I don't know if he would be, but I'd much rather see him get the screen time.  That man is adorable ;-)

[perkie1968]

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

he deserves to see a doctor, not his ex-nurse mother-in-law.

Sure.  But he's also been sucking back Tums for months, and she did mention something about having him checked out for an ulcer.  

[FilmTVGeek80]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Lauren didn't help things, certainly. Ava is the parent, though, and should have been the bigger person. She chose not to be.

I don't think Ava has much moral high ground about Lauren sleeping with Griffin, given that Ava slept with Morgan.  But it definitely shows the Jerome women have terrible taste in men.

I'm not a parent so I can't speak to that kind of relationship, but regardless of Ava being the parent it doesn't mean Kiki can hurt her and then not have to apologize and Ava should be okay with that just because it's her child who hurt her.

Ava might not have the high ground in that area, but at least Ava expressed remorse over it and basically had to grovel at Kiki's feet to get her to forgive her for that. If Kiki did what she did for retaliation that would be one thing but she didn't. 

1 hour ago, Kiki777 said:

I don't know if he would be, but I'd much rather see him get the screen time.  That man is adorable 😉

I'm sure most of his fans would end up complaining about how incompetent he was being written and how he was being ruined.

[perkie1968]

2 hours ago, rur said:

Why does Bobbie think she has the right to slap Julian?

And will she hunt down Sam and slap her too, since the plan to destroy the files came from both Sam and Julian 

2 hours ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

He still tried to rape Sam. He did rape Willow who could be a witness for prosecution of nothing else.

With Sam, it's  a he said/she said.  He claims he wasn't doing anything to her.  With Willow, she herself admitted that she wasn't sure if it was considered rape or not, since she consented to the "initiation".  

[YaddaYadda]

2 hours ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

Only acceptable way out of this is Nelle gets released, seduces Shiloh, and kills him to keep everything under wraps.

She'd had to die her hair brown to be able to cross the threshold of his non DoD house.

[Sake614]

5 hours ago, tvgoddess said:

Are we supposed to believe in today's day and age, anyone can just walk in at all times?

You couldn’t just waltz into a school 40 or 50 years ago either. There was a monitor/security guard at the main door and you had to sign in AND have an appointment. 

[ulkis]

What the hell was the point of Carly being on today?

[ulkis]

It was a deeply serious question, @chanel18!

[Sake614]

7 minutes ago, ulkis said:

What the hell was the point of Carly being on any day?

There fixed it for you. You’re welcome 😀

[TeeVee329]

3 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

[Dr. Michael Easton] may be a drug addict but that doesn't make him a bad person. I would say based on what we've seen on-screen that, yeah, Finn is a better person than Brad.

What I personally haven't liked in the past is the moral superiority Dr. Michael Easton exhibited throughout that storyline with Brad given a) he stole drugs form the hospital and practiced medicine on said drugs and b) he absolutely screwed Brad out of money he deserved for helping with the cure for the SUPER DUDLY DISEASE.

3 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Brad is a criminal several times over.

Who isn't on this show, though. 

It's just...I'm not like a super Brad fan or anything (I think what makes him likable is the energy Parry Shen brings to things), but I feel defensive of him because everyone around him has done acts just as heinous or worse and he's going to get crucified without one single person to offer him any kind of support.

[Katy M]

4 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Who isn't on this show, though. 

Mac?  Molly? Lucas? Olivia?

[ulkis]

Oh come on, Joss is comfortable at Sonny's shitty house? 

1 minute ago, Katy M said:

Mac?  Molly? Lucas? Olivia?

And how often are they on the show?

[TeeVee329]

8 minutes ago, Katy M said:

Mac?  Molly? Lucas? Olivia?

I'm talking about the people who are going to be screaming at Brad* - Carly, Sonny, Carly, Jason, Carly, Sam, Carly, Julian, Carly.

As for your list, I believe Olivia also lied about a baby being dead to keep it away from its parent.

ETA...and with another couple, they'd probably get the whole episode, just the two of them, in their home, having it out when the reveal happens.  But poor Lucas will probably get half a segment before Carly or Sam barges in.  Plus, they have no on-screen home so they'll have to fight in the hallway at GH.

Edited June 25, 2019 by TeeVee329

[YaddaYadda]

48 minutes ago, ulkis said:

What the hell was the point of Carly being on today?

So she can stick her nose in someone else's business. She's the neighbor who spends her days at the window to see what people are up to.

[FilmTVGeek80]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

What I personally haven't liked in the past is the moral superiority Dr. Michael Easton exhibited throughout that storyline with Brad given a) he stole drugs form the hospital and practiced medicine on said drugs and b) he absolutely screwed Brad out of money he deserved for helping with the cure for the SUPER DUDLY DISEASE.

Who isn't on this show, though. 

It's just...I'm not like a super Brad fan or anything (I think what makes him likable is the energy Parry Shen brings to things), but I feel defensive of him because everyone around him has done acts just as heinous or worse and he's going to get crucified without one single person to offer him any kind of support.

I didn't see much of that SL but don't feel too bad for Brad given his history and his current actions. The only reason I pointed out how big a criminal Brad is because I don't feel like Finn can't judge him given Brad's history. 

Also, is there a reason you changed Finn to Dr. Michael Easton in my quote?

[nilyank]

Really Girl Reporter? 

I am so happy that she is not only thrilled to celebrate the wedding reception of Liz and the man that kidnapped her and placed her next to a bomb.

Not only that, she want to offer the Haunted Star as place for the reception. Free of charge. Not only is Girl Reporter awesome at journalism, she is as awesome as Business Owner.

Judge Walters continues his questionable decisions in custody cases going back to Maxie.

[ByaNose]

So show doesn’t show how Shiloh got his hands on the adoption records in court today. Thanks show

[statsgirl]

Diane did ask  how Shiloh got access to Willow's medical records since it's a HIPPA violation. And then the show just dropped it?

[ciarra]

6 hours ago, rur said:

Diane had already stated that the hearing was at 3:00 p.m.

And yet Joss was just eating grapefruit for breakfast, Jax offered her breakfast at the Metro Court. 

10 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Not only that, she want to offer the Haunted Star as place for the reception.

Where Kiki's dead body was discovered during the last reception there.  And Fran(psy)cho has deep personal ties with the Keekster -- it wasn't just any mood-killing dead body present.

[perkie1968]

9 hours ago, nilyank said:

I am so happy that she is not only thrilled to celebrate the wedding reception of Liz and the man that kidnapped her and placed her next to a bomb.

This.  I mean, the show made her say she was offering because she had falsely accused him of attacking her so it was her way of making it up to him, but her accusing him made them even after he nearly killed her.  The show tries hard to forget who Franco was under JF but I have a long memory.  

[perkie1968]

12 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

What the hell was the point of Carly being on today?

It was a day that ends in a Y?  Also, she told Bobbie she was picking up prenatal vitamins but is that something Americans get from a hospital?  Here in Canada we mostly pick up vitamins from the local drug store.  

[rur]

7 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

It was a day that ends in a Y?  Also, she told Bobbie she was picking up prenatal vitamins but is that something Americans get from a hospital?  Here in Canada we mostly pick up vitamins from the local drug store.  

In Port Charles, they go to the hospital for everything. In pretty much the rest of the U.S., for example, people go to the doctor's office for their checkups or for a number of "specialty" treatments. Here, even the most mundane medical need is taken care of with a hospital appointment. 

[Blackie]

General Hospital...your on-stop shopping needs for vitamin pick-up, paternity testing, specialty treatment for rare viruses and diseases, HIV research, kidney transplants and not being able to see a Dr when you have pain and an ex-nurse MIL

[sacrebleu]

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Only acceptable way out of this is Nelle gets released, seduces Shiloh, and kills him to keep everything under wraps.

I support this plan.

This is obviously shaping up as a murder mystery. So far, we have Alexis, Jason, Julian, and to a much more vague extent- Willow suggesting that Shiloh's death is the only thing that will stop him. 

While Nelle and Ryan are busy in cahoots ( brilliant use of a co-ed prison show!) I suspect a break-out any moment... Nelle can even kill Shiloh gruesomely enough that a newly escaped Ryan could also be a suspect.

[Katy M]

19 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

I support this plan.

This is obviously shaping up as a murder mystery. So far, we have Alexis, Jason, Julian, and to a much more vague extent- Willow suggesting that Shiloh's death is the only thing that will stop him. 

While Nelle and Ryan are busy in cahoots ( brilliant use of a co-ed prison show!) I suspect a break-out any moment... Nelle can even kill Shiloh gruesomely enough that a newly escaped Ryan could also be a suspect.

And then after they have set up clues pointing to each of those suspects, it will turn out that the real killer is Tony Jones.  He faked his death for goodness knows whatever reason.  And he came back to kill Shiloh because this whole thing somehow reminds him of the Michael situation and how he went nuts and killed him.  Because that is literally how stupid this show is with murder mysteries.

Yes, I still am,, and forever will be, pissed off about the TMK murder mystery.

[Cheyanne11]

Gotta love how Bobbie has not been involved at all in the whole Wiley/Shiloh storyline, then immediately jumps on the "THIS IS ALL JULIAN'S FAULT" train her daughter loves to ride.   Can't wait for Joss to clomp over to Charlie's, order the disco fries, and then berate him, too.

[tveyeonyou]

14 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

So she can stick her nose in someone else's business. She's the neighbor who spends her days at the window to see what people are up to.

From now on, I will forever think of Carly as Gladys Kravitz, the neighbor on Bewitched. Yes I am that old ☺️

[YaddaYadda]

35 minutes ago, tveyeonyou said:

From now on, I will forever think of Carly as Gladys Kravitz, the neighbor on Bewitched. Yes I am that old ☺️

Oh, I know who she is. I've watched tons of rerun. 😘

Edited June 25, 2019 by YaddaYadda