Episode Discussion: TFGH

[dubbel zout]

8 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I just can't with Nina telling Jax "I have two daughters."

I like that Nina considers Charlotte her daughter. What I don't like is how she forgets she's not one of Charlotte's custodial parents, so what she thinks isn't (or shouldn't be) a priority.

[statsgirl]

Do they actually think that Nina being an incompetent narcissist is cute??? She finds out she has a new job and the first thing she does is demand he not make decisions about how she spends her money and demand Fridays off and then admit that she doesn't know how to read a balance sheet and doesn't care? This version of Nina is even worse than the Nina that attacks Willow for being a man-vampire. And ewww to her getting with Jax.

Also Sam, maybe you shouldn't put Julian down automatically without listening to him first.

I love snarky Ryan. I'm really going to miss him. I'm glad he's not dead at least.

I also loved Alexis talking about her Cassadine spidey-sense (I miss the days of the Cassadine's being a force) and Jax buying her designer water instead of champagne.   Jax with Alexis >>>>>>>> Jax with Nina.

14 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

So only Willow deserves to have her pledge returned? Apparently, all other DoD’ers get to live with that threat hanging over them for eternity, never having the relief of knowing that their pledges got burned. That’ll teach ‘em.

It's not about Sonny or his own. Who cares?

5 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

So... the Port Charles criminal brain trust's plan is to threaten to go public with Margeaux's role in covering up the murder that Sonny committed?

I almost want to see him try it, only to have Margeaux say, okay-- tell Jordan all about the crime you did.

Are the writers really this stupid, or do they think the audience is this stupid?

They think the audience is this stupid. This is a Sonny story we're talking about.

3 hours ago, Katy M said:

I think the important part of this to me is that he was letting her go through with her plan.  It was a stupid plan, but it was her plan, and if he had naysayed her, feminists everywhere would have been irate.

This feminist is appalled that Jason cares so little for Sam that he was willing to go along with a plan so unnecessary and so stupid that she could have been badly hurt emotionally if not physically, and Sam thinks this is the best man for her and kids.

[HeatLifer]

Just now, statsgirl said:

This feminist is appalled that Jason cares so little for Sam that he was willing to go along with a plan so unnecessary and so stupid that she could have been badly hurt emotionally if not physically, and Sam thinks this is the best man for her and kids.

A+

[LexieLily]

14 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I like that Nina considers Charlotte her daughter. What I don't like is how she forgets she's not one of Charlotte's custodial parents, so what she thinks isn't (or shouldn't be) a priority.

Same. I'm not okay with Nina (and Valentin) continuously disrespecting Charlotte's biological and custodial mother. 

[Veronica889]

14 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Do they actually think that Nina being an incompetent narcissist is cute??? She finds out she has a new job and the first thing she does is demand he not make decisions about how she spends her money and demand Fridays off and then admit that she doesn't know how to read a balance sheet and doesn't care? This version of Nina is even worse than the Nina that attacks Willow for being a man-vampire. And ewww to her getting with Jax.

Also Sam, maybe you shouldn't put Julian down automatically without listening to him first.

I love snarky Ryan. I'm really going to miss him. I'm glad he's not dead at least.

I also loved Alexis talking about her Cassadine spidey-sense (I miss the days of the Cassadine's being a force) and Jax buying her designer water instead of champagne.   Jax with Alexis >>>>>>>> Jax with Nina.

It's not about Sonny or his own. Who cares?

They think the audience is this stupid. This is a Sonny story we're talking about.

This feminist is appalled that Jason cares so little for Sam that he was willing to go along with a plan so unnecessary and so stupid that she could have been badly hurt emotionally if not physically, and Sam thinks this is the best man for her and kids.

Agree 100% on the Jasam stuff. I would also say this feminist is appalled that Sam cares so little for herself that she would go through with that plan. 

[rur]

Now that Lucas has definitely joined Sam's "Treat Julian Like Shi# Unless You Want Something" club, TPTB have managed to make him an unlikeable character -- to me, at least. 

I sure wish someone who had been involved with the Great Kristina Saving Plan would mention that any children of Shiloh's might be the products of rape. But maybe that's too much of a social issue right now, so they just hope the audience won't remember. 

[dubbel zout]

33 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

This feminist is appalled that Jason cares so little for Sam that he was willing to go along with a plan so unnecessary and so stupid that she could have been badly hurt emotionally if not physically, and Sam thinks this is the best man for her and kids.

Sam made it very clear she wanted to do it. How was Jason supposed to stop her short of tying her to a chair or locking her in a closet?

[ulkis]

Jaxis are great. This is what a non-forced, non-creepy friendship looks like, Jarly.

[ciarra]

I dunno.  Is the DoD story any stupider than KeMo's intro story, Dead Man's Hand?  The bar isn't set very high here for job satisfaction.

[HeatLifer]

12 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Sam made it very clear she wanted to do it. How was Jason supposed to stop her short of tying her to a chair or locking her in a closet?

He could have ... tried. They could have .... discussed it more, talked in detail on what was about to occur, talk about her being sexually assaulted by Franco. Locking her in a closet isn’t what this is about. It’s about making an ATTEMPT to talk sense into person. 

[Melgaypet]

2 minutes ago, ciarra said:

I dunno.  Is the DoD story any stupider than KeMo's intro story, Dead Man's Hand?  The bar isn't set very high here for job satisfaction.

I don't know about stupider, but I think it's a lot grosser. Which isn't to say Dead Man's Hand was entirely non-gross, I vaguely remember Sam putting sexual favors in a poker pot and Jax rescuing her or some such.

The Sexual Exploitation of Sam McCall, a General Hospital Staple since 2003!

[dubbel zout]

10 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

It’s about making an ATTEMPT to talk sense into person. 

What could he say that she didn't already know? Sam was determined to carry out her idiotic plan. She's fortunate Jason didn't say something like, "This is too stupid for me to back you on; good luck!"

You can't talk sense into someone who doesn't want to hear it. Sam didn't want to hear it. She was too sure she could handle it and get the goods on Shiloh.

[HeatLifer]

2 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

What could he say that she didn't already know? Sam was determined to carry out her idiotic plan. She's fortunate Jason didn't say something like, "This is too stupid for me to back you on; good luck!"

You can't talk sense into someone who doesn't want to hear it. Sam didn't want to hear it. She was too sure she could handle it and get the goods on Shiloh.

Just because someone doesn’t want to hear something doesn’t mean you don’t try? If that’s how we treat people we love and watch as they self-destruct without discussions or interventions or doing ANYTHING? I don’t really have a response to that. I don’t agree with that stance to just watch as things happen around me. Sam going through with this plan effects Jason and their children because it effects Sam’s mental health, which has already been on display with her flashbacks and not being present anymore in certain moments. Not everything is about Sam and what she wants. She has a family. She is selfish when it comes down to it. Only caring about what you want to do in a relationship of any kind never works. Life doesn’t work that way either.

[BlancheDevoreaux]

48 minutes ago, rur said:

Now that Lucas has definitely joined Sam's "Treat Julian Like Shi# Unless You Want Something" club, TPTB have managed to make him an unlikeable character -- to me, at least. 

Yes! "Julian is the scummiest scum to ever crawl the earth! Oh wait. Now I need something. Hey daddy, can you use you're connections to help me?" They can both take a seat with that crap.

[DivaLasVegas82]

The line if the day definitely went to Ryan for saying about Kiki, “I don’t get the fascination with that girl. She was dull, insipid, and boring—nothing like her mother. I couldn’t agree more, Ryan. I couldn’t agree more.

[dubbel zout]

33 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

Just because someone doesn’t want to hear something doesn’t mean you don’t try?

Jason did try. Not very hard, because that's Jason, but he tried. 

[Hater]

The script is telling her to roll her eyes? Really? This is so over the top. 

Yes Kelly continues to make some of the worst acting choices I have ever watched on a soap.

Edited May 30, 2019 by Hater

[Cheyanne11]

1 hour ago, rur said:

Now that Lucas has definitely joined Sam's "Treat Julian Like Shi# Unless You Want Something" club, TPTB have managed to make him an unlikeable character -- to me, at least. 

28 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

Yes! "Julian is the scummiest scum to ever crawl the earth! Oh wait. Now I need something. Hey daddy, can you use you're connections to help me?" They can both take a seat with that crap.

Just wait til the entire truth comes out and they want to burn him at the stake.  Of course they'll tell him this as they sneer at him for daring to patronize...his own business.

Worst part is Sonny/Carly would do exactly what Julian did to "protect" one of their kids and they'd be heralded for "being a good father" and "loving with their whole heart."

[Gam2]

How is Lucas Sam’s brother? Is Julian her dad? I am totally confused.

[Katy M]

5 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

How is Lucas Sam’s brother? Is Julian her dad? I am totally confused.

Yes, Julian is her biological father.

[GHScorpiosRule]

8 minutes ago, Gam2 said:

How is Lucas Sam’s brother? Is Julian her dad? I am totally confused.

Yes, Julian is her father. From a retconned one-night stand he and Alexis had when they wuz teenagers. or something.

[Gam2]

6 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Yes, Julian is her father. From a retconned one-night stand he and Alexis had when they wuz teenagers. or something.

Yuck.

[RedRockRosie]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Yes, Julian is her father. From a retconned one-night stand he and Alexis had when they wuz teenagers. or something.

Still say Julian's better than one of her Cassadine relatives impregnating her.🙄 (That was put out as a possibility back in the day.)

[Melgaypet]

10 minutes ago, RedRockRosie said:

Still say Julian's better than one of her Cassadine relatives impregnating her.🙄 (That was put out as a possibility back in the day.)

At the risk of sounding super-gross, I don't actually think it was better. I think Stavros having raped Alexis and Sam being conceived that way made a lot more sense than an some out-of-nowhere encounter with Julian. It would be a story that's dark and ugly, yes, but that's who the Cassadines are and I would like to see them as a family reckon with that.

At this point though, the ship has sailed. Stefan and Nikolas are both dead. So is Helena (right?). Alexis and her girls don't really identify as Cassadines anymore.

[dubbel zout]

After all she went through, Sam really thinks that burning all the pledges is going to be the end of Shiloh and DoD? She's too stupid to live.

I hate how Sam and Lucas treat Julian worse than dog poo on their shoes until they need something from him. And I think I hate even more that Julian doesn't seem bothered by that. Ugh.

And whoa there, Sam, with the outrage that Lucas and Brad could lose Wiley. You don't want to let your emotions take over here. Good grief. Could she have been less interested and concerned? What if Shiloh hadn't been involved? What an asshole.

LOL at Lulu's voiceover. And she's watching from outside Jordan's room! Way to get the story, Girl Reporter. Also, why is the city allowing Jordan to be the police commissioner from a hospital bed? She's gravely ill, not recovering from a stubbed toe.

It's supremely petty, but I really want Jax to buy Kate's old property and drive Sonny to distraction. Heh.

Love, love, love Jax and Alexis.

I want Ryan to refuse to donate a kidney just on general principle. It's so gross everyone thinks it's a done deal just because he's a match.

Edited May 30, 2019 by dubbel zout
typos

[WendyCR72]

30 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Love, love, love Jax and Alexis.

There was Jaxis?! Damn, I'm going to have to find a clip of this shitty show, aren't I? Damn their sparkliness. Sigh.

[statsgirl]

I'm hoping Ryan will hold out for something good before he donates a kidney to Jordan. Maybe Curtis stealing some incriminating evidence for him, although it's pretty much a slam dunk now.

5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

What could he say that she didn't already know? Sam was determined to carry out her idiotic plan. She's fortunate Jason didn't say something like, "This is too stupid for me to back you on; good luck!"

You can't talk sense into someone who doesn't want to hear it. Sam didn't want to hear it. She was too sure she could handle it and get the goods on Shiloh.

Jason will move heaven and earth to talk Carly out of a bad idea and then do everything he can to protect her when she doesn't listen to him. Just sayin'.

I live and work with a number of people with ADHD and a lot of the time, the first idea is a bad one and then you get to work showing them how. With my father, it usually took a week of persuasion.

So talking someone out of a bad plan is natural for me.  Also that no one talked to Sam about what would happen to her kids if anything happened to her doesn't sit right with me.

1 hour ago, Melgaypet said:

At the risk of sounding super-gross, I don't actually think it was better. I think Stavros having raped Alexis and Sam being conceived that way made a lot more sense than an some out-of-nowhere encounter with Julian. It would be a story that's dark and ugly, yes, but that's who the Cassadines are and I would like to see them as a family reckon with that.

It would have been a perfect Cassadine story.  Stevros a young psycho resenting Natasha and Natasha unprotected except by young Stefan and feeling lost after the death of her mother. Dark and twisted.

A yuck idea. But a psychiatric resident told me that one of the questions on his medical exam was "What form of incest is the least likely to cause trauma?"  The correct answer was brother-sister. Yuck indeed..

[ulkis]

8 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Jason will move heaven and earth to talk Carly out of a bad idea

When has he done that? He mostly says "Carly" a lot of times, and then sighs and shakes his head.

[statsgirl]

2 minutes ago, ulkis said:

When has he done that? He mostly says "Carly" a lot of times, and then sighs and shakes his head.

Okay, not heaven and earth. But he puts more effort into trying to talk Carly out of her stupid ideas and make sure she has her orange juice than he did Sam.  It suggests to me how much he cares anout each woman.

[nilyank]

2 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

So talking someone out of a bad plan is natural for me.  Also that no one talked to Sam about what would happen to her kids if anything happened to her doesn't sit right with me.

Maybe. But Sam was going to do this very stupid thing regardless of what anyone said to her. She thought that she was so damn clever and wanted to be the one to get the goods on Shiloh.

Like a drug, she keeps wanting to go back and mess with him. 

Even after Kristina renounced the cult.

Even after they found all the pledges and destroyed them.

Sam was barely interested in what is happening to Lucas and his son until she found out that Shiloh was the biological father of Wiley. Suddenly, she was in all to stop Shiloh.

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

LOL at Lulu's voiceover. And she's watching from outside Jordan's room! Way to get the story, Girl Reporter. Also, why is the city allowing Jordan to be the police commissioner from a hospital bed? She's gravely ill, not recovering from a stubbed toe.

First, you would think Girl Reporter wouldn't be taking notes with pencil/notepad. Get a voice recorder or ipad or something from this century. Nor that she would be writing out her story as she is witnessing the ceremony. 

Second, why in the world is Jordan giving this stupid award to Franco from her deathbed? She had an excuse to put this nonsense off. On the other hand, by having Jordan give Franco that stupid award, the only people in attendance were Liz and Girl Reporter. But then Girl Reporter was talking more nonsense about Laura wanting reward Franco with more accolades. Trust me, a simple thank you should be enough.

[ulkis]

6 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Okay, not heaven and earth. But he puts more effort into trying to talk Carly out of her stupid ideas and make sure she has her orange juice than he did Sam.  It suggests to me how much he cares anout each woman.

Well, Carly's ideas are mostly VERY stupid. I can't think of the last time she had a plaaan though that she ran by Jason. Not since before he got kicked in the harbor and imo before that Jason never worked particularly hard at trying to talk her out of anything. 

I don't see the grand love Jason has for Carly. It's Carly who makes the "YOU'RE MY BFF" speeches and Jason nods and agrees. if Sam made big speeches about how amazing their love was Jason would nod and say "yup" too, but Sam doesn't have to make speeches, because she'is actually the one he's having sex with.

Edited May 31, 2019 by ulkis

[Hater]

I don't see Jason's grand love for anyone, especially Sam.  Or even his kids.   Jake anyone?  aka "Franco and Drew raised my kids better than I ever will."

Maybe he loves his black t shirt.

But this man is a horrible love interest.  Anyone who walks around in a tight black tee and those stupid jeans is not love interest material for that alone!  

Edited May 31, 2019 by Hater

[ulkis]

3 minutes ago, Hater said:

I don't see Jason's grand love for anyone, especially Sam.  Or even his kids.   Jake anyone?  aka "Franco and Drew raised my kids better than I ever will."

Maybe he loves his black t shirt.

Mi . . . chael? Kinda? 

Oh wait, duh. Spinelli!

[Hater]

I can't believe no one looks at how they dress Burton and think he doesn't look stupid.

But then again, he dresses like that in real life too so maybe it's him who thinks it looks cool to dress in a uniform every time you show up to work. Like he's a McDonald's cashier or something.

Edited May 31, 2019 by Hater

[tvgoddess]

23 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I don't see the grand love Jason has for Carly. It's Carly who makes the "YOU'RE MY BFF" speeches and Jason nods and agrees. if Sam made big speeches about how amazing their love was Jason would nod and say "yup" too, but Sam doesn't have to make speeches, because she'is actually the one he's having sex with.

Not that I care, because this couple sucks but when was the last time they actually even had sex?

Why is Franco getting this stupid award? Why does it have to be this big production where he gets all dressed up when Jordan could barely even sit up straight? Does Lulu know how stupid she looks outside the window like some 6th grader trying to write some kind of Pulitzer prize type article?

Nina was annoying as hell. I'm happy for more business type stories, and happy for Jax to be involved in Crimson. But she grates on my nerves so damn bad. The sooner she ships off to GC, the better.

Look alive, Sam. Obviously it's a problem if Julian came to your doorstep. And he's been out of the mob for well over what...2 years?

Chase and Willow are love. And Chase is looking like a damn snack in that shirt. Praise the eye candy where you can find it.

Previews: Ava and Robert/Anna. Yes please.

[statsgirl]

I thought Jax was a good businessman; why is he trying to up the print division? Has he not been watching newspapers and magazines fold all over the world? Even digital magazines are having a hard time staying afloat.

52 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Sam was barely interested in what is happening to Lucas and his son until she found out that Shiloh was the biological father of Wiley. Suddenly, she was in all to stop Shiloh

At least she showed a spark of life for a change.  She doesn't around Jason.

We used to mock Ryker on Star Trek: TNG for staying in the same second -n-command position and not advancing to his own command but that show was only on for 7 years. Jason has been in the same position with Sonny for 20 (?) years and shows as little sign of wanting to make his own decisions as he does of wanting to get a new wardrobe.

Carly pushing him so hard at Sam was gross.

[Cheyanne11]

I rolled MY eyes at Sam rolling her eyes at Julian.  Little snot.  Only saving grace was, thus far, she didn't suggest Jason help with Julian's plan.

Lulu's voiceover was the unintentional comedy gold of the day.  And I LOL at how the show goes back and forth on what kind of reporter she is.  Investigative.  No wait, editorial.  No, no, how about human interest. 

No problem with Nina saying she had 2 daughters, mainly because before he left Dante would reference his "two kids."  What's good for one step-parent is good for the other (and Nina did refer to Charlotte specifically as her stepdaughter later in the convo).

Jax and Alexis are such a high point.  IR and NLG have such lovely natural chemistry together.  More of THIS, writers. 

[ciarra]

9 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Lulu's voiceover was the unintentional comedy gold of the day.  And I LOL at how the show goes back and forth on what kind of reporter she is.  Investigative.  No wait, editorial.  No, no, how about human interest. 

More like grade school newspaper columnist.

[Oracle42]

On 5/30/2019 at 4:08 PM, HeatLifer said:

He could have ... tried. They could have .... discussed it more, talked in detail on what was about to occur, talk about her being sexually assaulted by Franco. Locking her in a closet isn’t what this is about. It’s about making an ATTEMPT to talk sense into person. 

 Or he could've  done something  about it himself - because protecting Sonny is his actual job. If this had actually  been about Alexis & Kristina, or even the fact that Shiloh is a serial  rapist, that might've been different. Then Sam's determination to handle it might've made more sense for the character. It would've  been  gross, thoughtless and  painfully dumb - instead of gross, thoughtless,  painfully dumb and bizarre. But centering it on Sonny meant that Jason agreed to reenact a situation that traumatized the shit out of both of them so that Sam could protect Sonny from Kristina's non-existent knowledge of her father's crimes.

 There's so there's so many things wrong with this story that lack of character motivation and ignoring character history aren't even at the top of the list. But still - WTF?

Edited May 31, 2019 by Oracle42

[ulkis]

2 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

No problem with Nina saying she had 2 daughters, mainly because before he left Dante would reference his "two kids."  What's good for one step-parent is good for the other (and Nina did refer to Charlotte specifically as her stepdaughter later in the convo).

[not biased]Yes, but Nina is horrendous and Dante isn't.[/not biased]

Plus, I'm fanwanking that Charlotte probably is his bio kid . . . so fucking dumb that Helena would make a Valentin baby.

Edited May 31, 2019 by ulkis

[Oracle42]

2 minutes ago, ulkis said:

so fucking dumb that Helena would make a Valentin baby.

Word. If he'd actually been the terrifying badass that she'd feared, it still would've been dumb. The idea that Helena would have been determined to create the child of a stalker/hunchback/lounge singer is....what's the next level after ludicrous?

[LexieLily]

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

[not biased]Yes, but Nina is horrendous and Dante isn't.[/not biased]

Plus, I'm fanwanking that Charlotte probably is his bio kid . . . so fucking dumb that Helena would make a Valentin baby.

I just want to chime in here and say that I wholeheartedly agree with your fanwank that Charlotte is actually Lulu and Dante's bio-kid, @ulkis. 

[HeatLifer]

2 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

But centering it on Sonny meant that Jason agreed to reenact a situation that traumatized the shit out of both of them so that Sam could protect Sonny from Kristina's non-existent knowledge of her father's crimes.

  There's so there's so many things wrong with this story that lack of character motivation and ignoring character history aren't even at the top of the list. But still - WTF?

Omg, yes. Every time I discuss this story, I leave out so many details because there’s so much wrong with nearly every facet of this plot. We keep forgetting, myself included, that Sam did this to protect Kristina...and SONNY. She did this so Sonny wouldn’t potentially go to jail for his OWN CRIMES.

Edited May 31, 2019 by HeatLifer

[WendyCR72]

3 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

Word. If he'd actually been the terrifying badass that she'd feared, it still would've been dumb. The idea that Helena would have been determined to create the child of a stalker/hunchback/lounge singer is....what's the next level after ludicrous?

It is golden snark such as this as to why, while I can easily quit the show, I can never quit this forum and you fabulous posters.  😉

[30 Helens]

6 hours ago, nilyank said:

why in the world is Jordan giving this stupid award to Franco from her deathbed? She had an excuse to put this nonsense off. 

And why in the world is he letting her do it when she can barely speak? I was mostly appalled at Liz, a nurse. Both of them stood there with these proud grins, not even noticing that Jordan was on the brink of collapse.

5 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I thought Jax was a good businessman; why is he trying to up the print division? Has he not been watching newspapers and magazines fold all over the world? Even digital magazines are having a hard time staying afloat.

Because, as Jax said, Crimson is the one unicorn magazine that is actually gaining in circulation! Because Nina is the bestest editor ever! Because... yeah, I didn’t buy it either.

Ryan’s not gonna give up a kidney. But Kevin, as his next of kin, will authorize the donation after he dies. I’m very sad that we’re on the brink of losing Ryan, so I can only hope that his spirit lives on in the form of an evil kidney.  Maybe it will give Jordan the edge she so desperately needs.

+1 on the Jax/Alexis love.

[30 Helens]

3 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

what's the next level after ludicrous?

Hmm...I think about 90% of GH fits that definition.

[nilyank]

Curtis should just wait Ryan out to die and go to Kevin for the kidney. Because Ryan is evil, manipulative and petty. If Curtis annoys him enough, Ryan is most likely to damage his kidneys so that they are unusable for Jordan. This is the same man who sliced off his hand to fool the authorities into thinking that he died.

[Kiki777]

I agree on the Jaxis love.  But I'm thinking now I don't want them together romantically.  I don't trust the writers to not ruin them.

Hate Nina but J'ADORE the leopard- print blouse with sheer sleeves - does anyone know where it's from?

[Asp Burger]

2 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Because, as Jax said, Crimson is the one unicorn magazine that is actually gaining in circulation! Because Nina is the bestest editor ever! Because... yeah, I didn’t buy it either.

Well, I can see why Crimson has hit new heights with such brainstorms as the "real women" issue featuring only women who live in one town in upstate New York, such as that worldwide figure of fascination, Bobbie. And it was unbound, so you had to put it together yourself. And that other issue was printed all green! 

As for the discussion of how Jason could have prevented Sam from doing something she was determined to do: Easy. Tell her you need her to get something that requires going up or down stairs. Her inevitable fall always assures she'll be moaning and drifting in and out of consciousness for a good week.  

[dubbel zout]

10 hours ago, tvgoddess said:

Nina was annoying as hell. I'm happy for more business type stories, and happy for Jax to be involved in Crimson. But she grates on my nerves so damn bad. The sooner she ships off to GC, the better.

They (and MS) are really leaning in to the irritating, aren't they? Oof.

9 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I thought Jax was a good businessman; why is he trying to up the print division? Has he not been watching newspapers and magazines fold all over the world? Even digital magazines are having a hard time staying afloat.

As someone who works in print on and off, this hurts to agree with. Jax talked about the value of Crimson and the challenge to make it more profitable, so maybe he knows something we don't. Heh.

8 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

But centering it on Sonny

I'm sorry to inform you that it's always about Sonny.