Episode Discussion: TFGH

[nilyank]

28 minutes ago, Oracle42 said:

*I assume because Y&R's Billy had a media company

I believe he had what Peter obtained recent, a gossip rag that he wants to develop into real news.

[Oracle42]

11 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

the Friz stans can also miss me with their insistence that Franco should be a big part of the story because Kevin was his therapist.  Not.

The only big story Franco should be part of is the "Who Killed Franco Murder Mystery?!"

[Oracle42]

26 minutes ago, nilyank said:

I believe he had what Peter obtained recent, a gossip rag that he wants to develop into real news.

Which is a fine story idea, but makes zero sense for Jason...or Sam. It's like Lulu becoming a reporter - there's no foundation or character history included in the story decision, and Lulu as a reporter still makes more sense than Jason/Aurora. It's ridiculous that Michael is the CEO of ELQ but that's because of his age and inexperience, not because it doesn't make sense for that particular character to have ended up working at ELQ.

Jason, or Drew with Jason's memories, as the CEO/owner of a media company? Makes no sense.  Also? I will be irritated (deeply irritated) if this entire industry has been introduced to GH, especially since it's been used so poorly thus far,  just so that Peter has a reason to exist.

[sunnyface]

This show needs to get rid of the mob and start refocusing on the hospital* - not media companies or the police department, not the 'Cassadines' or 'Quartermaines' and most certainly not the 'Corinthos' - whose daily livelihoods are intimidating and/or terrorizing (multiple guns pointed at an Alzheimer patient) people instead of saving lives or making folks healthier.  There are plenty of successful hospital-based television series with ideas about characters and plots to borrow/grow from. 

While the timing of the Alzheimer story certainly wasn't the brightest way to attract the summer vacationing younger viewers, today's episode might be able to provide a beneficial teaching opportunity for Sonny to realize how horrible, dangerous, unnecessary his profession is and maybe Sonny can turn over a new leaf.  j/k.  It will be all about how it's Mike's fault that three guns are pointed at him in a house where he lives.  Great job social workers Felix and Stella - what a horrible environment for anyone to live in - that includes Avery.

*Most scenes in the hospital in the past year seem to involve Franco.  This is not what I meant for hospital-based stories; rather doctors, nurses, and patients. 

ETA: there were only 3 guns pointed and not 4 guns.  i am too hard on sonny.

Edited August 28, 2018 by sunnyface
sonny

[Perkie]

8 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

The only big story Franco should be part of is the "Who Killed Franco Murder Mystery?!"

I dont' think it would be much of a mystery because whoever did it would glady admit to it!!

[TeeVee329]

Remember the days when Griffin was just kinda boring instead of the enraging judgmental, hypocritical asshole he is now?  Just leave town FFS.

[WendyCR72]

52 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Remember the days when Griffin was just kinda boring instead of the enraging judgmental, hypocritical asshole he is now?  Just leave town FFS.

Trouble is, he is also a doc, so if he leaves, then there will be less doctors on General HOSPITAL. Like this show cares. Maybe that's why Griffin is so intolerable. The show wants all the doctors to be gone. Maybe save for Michael Easton's character. Hmm.

[ulkis]

11 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

Trouble is, he is also a doc, so if he leaves, then there will be less doctors on General HOSPITAL. Like this show cares. Maybe that's why Griffin is so intolerable. The show wants all the doctors to be gone. Maybe save for Michael Easton's character. Hmm.

No, they tried with him. imo Griffin is at least making another face now besides "damsel about to fall into a swoon."

Edited August 27, 2018 by ulkis

[YaddaYadda]

Stella screaming at Jordan, Griffin screaming at Ava, let's never mention again Drew's name in Sam's presence or that they had an actual healthy relationship because he is Voldemort, this Drew/Margaux thing, Mike standing there with three guns drawn on him. This show is a real dumpster fire.

[Linny]

The family drama boiling over between Stella and Jordan was a long time coming, and it was nice to get clear perspective from Stella that she sees herself as endlessly sacrificing and Jordan as thoroughly selfish. I don't agree with Stella's assessment of Jordan, but at least we got something meatier than the ludicrous "she killed Thomas!" Chandra Wilson worked just fine as the counselor, and it helped that we didn't get any cute knowing "there's a star in our midst!" type dialogue. Still not gonna get me to watch a minute of Grey's Anatomy, though.

My eyes were rolling out of my head at Kristina saying that Sam is back to her kickass self now that she's single. Yeah, the shackles of Drew and Aurora were too confining for our Sam, being a P.I. and doing ancillary work at Jason's beck and call is Sam living her best life. Whatever, dude. Insisting over and over again that this is what happy looks like for Sam isn't making any of her behavior for the better part of a year any more palatable to me.

There isn't a four-letter word strong enough to describe my feelings for Griffin. His abrupt change from "I love you, Ava" a couple weeks ago to "you never changed, you have no soul" and threatening to dangle her as bait for Sonny is a poorer reflection of his personal integrity than Ava's actions with the blanket are for her own moral standing.

[Hater]

Sam continues to grate based on these recaps.  

Spoiler

Maybe Kelly's hip surgery will get that character off screen.  She truly NEEDS A BREAK.   I wouldn't mind a month or so off somewhere doing whatever.  

Edited August 27, 2018 by Hater

[ciarra]

Didn't Sonny wander off to the kitchen when he was talking on the phone?  Is there a secret door to get to the second floor, or how did he end up upstairs?

[statsgirl]

I figured he teleported because we all have to look up to Sonny

I liked the family therapy scenes (finally some movement on Stella's obsession) and Chandra Wilson needs to give acting classes to a good 3/4s of the GH cast, especially CD and Lexi A.  "Dr. Massey" did a respectable job as a therapist.

The Sam/Kristina scenes were "let's tell the audience what they are supposed to think about these two character" rather than showing. 

Griffin needs to leave my screen last month.

[tveyeonyou]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Remember the days when Griffin was just kinda boring instead of the enraging judgmental, hypocritical asshole he is now?  Just leave town FFS.

I used to pretty much just not-like Griffin. Now I'm nearing levels of Sonny-hate, which will make it easier for me to FF or ignore when he runs to Sonny and Carly to help them get Avery forever, and he and Kiki can talk about how horribly evil Ava is and how sorry they are for not listening to S&C sooner. 

And Jason can keep forgetting Ava helped save his worthless ass in Russia.

1 hour ago, Linny said:

There isn't a four-letter word strong enough to describe my feelings for Griffin. His abrupt change from "I love you, Ava" a couple weeks ago to "you never changed, you have no soul" and threatening to dangle her as bait for Sonny is a poorer reflection of his personal integrity than Ava's actions with the blanket are for her own moral standing.

Griffin, you sucked as a priest, you sucked as a doctor, you sucked as a boyfriend, you'll fit perfectly in Sonny's world.

32 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Didn't Sonny wander off to the kitchen when he was talking on the phone?  Is there a secret door to get to the second floor, or how did he end up upstairs?

I may have said this out loud word for word when I saw that bullshit.

[LexieLily]

10 minutes ago, tveyeonyou said:

I used to pretty much just not-like Griffin. Now I'm nearing levels of Sonny-hate, which will make it easier for me to FF or ignore when he runs to Sonny and Carly to help them get Avery forever, and he and Kiki can talk about how horribly evil Ava is and how sorry they are for not listening to S&C sooner. 

And Jason can keep forgetting Ava helped save his worthless ass in Russia.

Griffin, you sucked as a priest, you sucked as a doctor, you sucked as a boyfriend, you'll fit perfectly in Sonny's world.

I may have said this out loud word for word when I saw that bullshit.

I'm not expecting Jason to be friendly with Ava since he's nothing more than Sonny and Carly's robot but how has that never come up that if it wasn't for Ava Jason wouldn't be back?

[NutmegsDad]

26 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

I'm not expecting Jason to be friendly with Ava since he's nothing more than Sonny and Carly's robot but how has that never come up that if it wasn't for Ava Jason wouldn't be back?

Ava killed Morgan. That's all Jason cares.

[Perkie]

44 minutes ago, NutmegsDad said:

Ava killed Morgan.

I'll split a couple of hairs here and say Olivia's bomb and Morgan's dumbass douchebagery on that day, killed Morgan.  But that's just me!!

2 hours ago, ciarra said:

Didn't Sonny wander off to the kitchen when he was talking on the phone?

Sometimes houses have a second set of stairs off of the kitchen.  I just assumed that's how he got up there.  Out of all the issues this show is having, that one didn't seem that big of an issue for me.  

[TVbitch]

I guess Sam being able to speak above a whisper and not looking like she is right on the verge of falling asleep is considered her "kick ass self." So now she's a life coach? Um, don't quit your day job, not that you have one. 

So, these blouses that only tuck in at the front. Is that thing? I'm a tomboy, so you will have to help me out. I've been noticing it a lot on this show, but not in the real world. Margaux was wearing one today. 

I'm not a Stella fan, but at least she and Jordan committed to those scenes. and, I don't know, ACTED. 

[statsgirl]

20 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

So, these blouses that only tuck in at the front. Is that thing?

It is a thing.  My daughter hates them so much because she thinks they're stupid that every time she sees it on TV, she starts a rant, starting from when Anna wore them a couple of storylines ago.

[ByaNose]

34 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

I guess Sam being able to speak above a whisper and not looking like she is right on the verge of falling asleep is considered her "kick ass self." So now she's a life coach? Um, don't quit your day job, not that you have one. 

So, these blouses that only tuck in at the front. Is that thing? I'm a tomboy, so you will have to help me out. I've been noticing it a lot on this show, but not in the real world. Margaux was wearing one today. 

I'm not a Stella fan, but at least she and Jordan committed to those scenes. and, I don't know, ACTED. 

I think VW & VA really went for it in their scenes. I’m guessing they knew it was e final scenes for VA and the climax of their storyline. I’m not looking forward to the recast. In general, recasts don’t work well. That said, Curtis always looks like a dufus. They never give him any backbone when it comes to the women in his life. He was like a ping pong ball today. It’s not the actors fault but the storyline/direction.

[Katy M]

2 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

I’m not looking forward to the recast. In general, recasts don’t work well.

Generally, yes.  But, I think Wally Kurth was an improvement over Kurt Robin McKinney. And, as much as I loved David Lewis as EQ, I learned to love John Ingle just as much.  

OTOH, SArah Brown and Jonathan Jackson will always be Carly and Lucky to me and Natalia Livingston was a travesty that should have never happened.  I don't really want to comment on the revolving Dawns, also should never have happened, but Sharon Case was my favorite and she was number 2.

[dubbel zout]

3 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I liked the family therapy scenes

I learned nothing new, and Stella blamed Jordan for everything, as usual. Climb down off the cross, Stella. Zzzzz. (LOL at Curtis watching the two of them while wanting the floor to open up and swallow him whole.)

Am I supposed to feel sorry for Kristina? Even before she moved to wherever with Parker, she was only all about Parker. Why would this be any different? I did like the mention that if Parker moved again, that would be four schools in three years.

Ugh, shut up, Griffin. Your anger isn't unwarranted, but your sanctimony sure is. Sheesh. Those scenes with Ava were the best of the episode.

Margaux and Drew are painful to watch. Yet another non-chemistry-having, boring couple. They're worse than Finn and Anna, who had least have some somewhat witty banter. 

"I'm going to see if Felix can work extra hours." Right, Sonny, throw money at the problem and ignore the toll on Felix and other health care workers who are basically just pitching in.

[statsgirl]

Sonny needs to talk to Dr. Massey to find out why he's so opposed to putting Mike in a place where they can take care of him properly. Is it because secretly he wants to show Mike how much  better a person he is, that he would never abandon Mike the way Mike abandoned him as a child?  Oh, wait, I forgot that the Big Three never need any therapy.

It is impossible that Kristina doesn't know if Parker is in a tenure track position if they ever talk.  Given Parker's history, a tenure track job would be as rare as hens teeth, there is not way she wouldn't have told Kristina.  Not to mention, Kristina being unable to adapt to where ever Parker teaches is a fail on Kristina, not Parker.

[In2You]

4 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I figured he teleported because we all have to look up to Sonny

I liked the family therapy scenes (finally some movement on Stella's obsession) and Chandra Wilson needs to give acting classes to a good 3/4s of the GH cast, especially CD and Lexi A.  "Dr. Massey" did a respectable job as a therapist.

The Sam/Kristina scenes were "let's tell the audience what they are supposed to think about these two character" rather than showing. 

Griffin needs to leave my screen last month.

CD and LA just need to be recast as this point. They've both been on GH for years and their acting hasn't improved.  I guess they keep them around because they're no threat to MB.

Reminds me LA's mom hangs on some of the boards and makes posts to hype her daughter(using an avatar with her own picture) and she got mad at me because I said her daughter's  appearance on Major Crimes was blink and you missed it. She came at me with a weak clap back.

[Cheyanne11]

Sam's "wise advice" to Kristina about how if she went back to Parker she'd be making things "all about Parker" and not what she wanted was kind of laughable given the child has switched colleges more times than I can count, tried various jobs, and then impulsively moved cross country to be in a brand new, fragile relationship.  But, sure, Sam gives great advice.

Oh, and I guess she called Monica on her way to the airport to tell her to watch her kids because she had to hold "Krissy"'s hand while she dumped her gf?  At this point they should just call Monica Mom.

Speaking of that, what a fucking low blow of Griffin's to act like Ava SHOULDN'T be pissed that Avery calls the She-Beast Mommy.  He's really turned into a smug asshole. 

[rags]

Love that Genie Francis is coming back. However, I don't think I can endure this Ryan/Kevin storyline any longer. Because we all know the outcome will be Jason saving the day...AGAIN!

Why. even. bother!

[LexieLily]

3 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Speaking of that, what a fucking low blow of Griffin's to act like Ava SHOULDN'T be pissed that Avery calls the She-Beast Mommy.  He's really turned into a smug asshole. 

Carly and Sonny are such self-righteous assholes that it makes sense why they would throw it in Ava's face that Avery calls Carly Mommy but heaven help me and make me understand why Kiki and now Griffin do it, too, when everyone involved knows just how Sonny got himself custody of Avery and kept her away from Ava and pushed Carly to be mommy. I'm not Ava's biggest fan but she deserves a hell of a lot better from the two people that were supposed to love her. 

Edited August 28, 2018 by LexieLily

[Asp Burger]

I know that a lot of people just can't stand the character of Stella, but I was riveted by those family-therapy scenes, and it was mostly due to VWJ's performance. She was completely electric. Now that's how you go big: all these years of pain, grief, resentment, and rage coming out in what threatened to be a "mad scene," but it was very well modulated. We've seen her get angry before, about or at Jordan, but this was on another level. I really thought the character might stroke out again. (They sure never mention that story development anymore, do they?)  

The woman has an incredible range and a great set of pipes. I'd love to see her get a role in a good Oscar bait-y movie. Like, the equivalent of the roles Shirley MacLaine was getting in the '80s and early '90s. 

[tveyeonyou]

14 hours ago, LexieLily said:

I'm not expecting Jason to be friendly with Ava since he's nothing more than Sonny and Carly's robot but how has that never come up that if it wasn't for Ava Jason wouldn't be back?

Exactly this.

He's still be sitting in that stupid mask thing in Russia if Ava didn't go to the clinic, but since we're dealing with Sonny and Carly they'd somehow claim credit, Carly just knew if she could get Ava to burn half her face off she'd find her real true Jason out there somewhere because Drew/Jason didn't kiss S&C's ass enough and Carly just knew it!!!  

Sorry for the poorly constructed thought process but my hair hurts when I try to waste brain cells thinking about the Unholy Trio.

[dubbel zout]

10 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

what a fucking low blow of Griffin's to act like Ava SHOULDN'T be pissed that Avery calls the She-Beast Mommy.  He's really turned into a smug asshole. 

I KNOW. For someone who thought Charlotte was his daughter for a hot second, Griffin has been breathtakingly awful to Ava about that.

7 hours ago, LexieLily said:

I'm not Ava's biggest fan but she deserves a hell of a lot better from the two people that were supposed to love her. 

Same here. And even if Lauren and Griffin are angry with her, don't use Avery against her. The kids in Sonny's custody don't have the greatest track record of safety, so everyone can shut up about how much better it is for them to be with him. Mike's false-alarm-button thing could have put Avery in real danger. I'm not blaming Mike at all for that, but he's not making the home environment safer for Avery. 

[Barb1959]

The actress that plays Stella does a great job as an unlikable person.  She just has that look of a real bitch!  lol

[TeeVee329]

Hey, Felicia!  She got to a) be on-screen, b) hang out with her grandson/the stroller playing him, and c) talk about her history with Ryan, including flashbacks!  I would love to think this is just the beginning of her involvement in this story, but would I be surprised if this was just a data dump to educate those who don't know about Ryan before he turns his attention to Carly or something?  No I would not.  She also had to talk to Lulu, so you can't have everything.

I think the show thought it was being compelling cagey about which Jon Lindstrom was Kevin and which was Ryan the last few appearances, but nope.  Anyway, I'm glad they got on with it.  And oh dear, Kevin, you're gonna have some groveling to do.  Knowing Ryan was alive and keeping that a secret is pretty not cool.

[LexieLily]

8 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

I think the show thought it was being compelling cagey about which Jon Lindstrom was Kevin and which was Ryan the last few appearances, but nope.  Anyway, I'm glad they got on with it.  And oh dear, Kevin, you're gonna have some groveling to do.  Knowing Ryan was alive and keeping that a secret is pretty not cool.

I was pleasantly surprised that the switch didn't happen before now (and thank God Laura didn't marry Ryan and there was yet another instance of Laura being sexually violated) but now that it has, I am actually okay with it, as long as the people that know Kevin (Lucy, Felicia, Laura) are allowed to know pretty much immediately that this man on the outside isn't their Kevin.

And by the way, Lulu? I know you're a journalist now and true crime might be all the rage, but the murders you want to write about were committed by your stepfather's twin brother. Maybe you should ask Kevin or at least give him a heads up before you go forth with your article.

Are we supposed to care that Oscar is having a seizure?

Edited August 28, 2018 by LexieLily

[Melgaypet]

10 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Are we supposed to care that Oscar is having a seizure?

Fixed that for you. ;)

[LexieLily]

3 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

Fixed that for you. ;)

Excellent fix, thank you! ;)

[ulkis]

For those who haven't visited the press thread, the rest of this week is repeat episodes.

Edited August 28, 2018 by ulkis

[TeeVee329]

16 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

And by the way, Lulu? I know you're a journalist now and true crime might be all the rage, but the murders you want to write about were committed by your stepfather's twin brother. Maybe you should ask Kevin or at least give him a heads up before you go forth with your article.

Also, the victim you're talking to is your best friend's mother, there's bias and conflict of interest all over the place.

But that won't stand in the way of Lulu Falconeri, rapidly becoming fiction's worst journalist.

19 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Are we supposed to care that Oscar is having a seizure?

I care that Kim and Monica might be upset.  Otherwise...

And why these scenes of him and Jason hanging out?  Is Oscar going to forsake Drew too?

[ciarra]

The episode summary for tomorrows rerun.

"Carly appears useful"

[HeatLifer]

27 minutes ago, ulkis said:

For those who haven't visited the press thread, the rest of this week is repeat episodes.

And then for the rest of time?

[Mnemosyne]

51 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Are we supposed to care that Oscar is having a seizure?

I'm surprised more characters don't have this particular reaction to having to carry on a conversation with Jason.

[statsgirl]

I really liked all the flashbacks with Kevin/Ryan, Felicia and Mac.  It's a real advantage to having the same actors in the roles 25 years later.  (And kudos to how well they've aged.)

ER got her hair trimmed.  I like it.

What I don't like is Sonny's behaviour around Mike's Alzheimer's. This great need to keep Mike at his home and away from a treatment centre while doing very little to actually help Mike.  My best friend's husband had AD and she was constantly looking for research and ideas on how to help him delay the progression.  Sonny does none of that and keeps Mike away from people who do.  (Felix doesn't count, he's a nurse not a dementia specialist.)

1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

Are we supposed to care that Oscar is having a seizure?

Jason will save him.  Because that's what he does.

I was waiting for some acknowledgement that Jason is Oscar's uncle, maybe something from Oscar about wanting to get to know Jason at last.  Did I miss it?  Or was it really all about how wonderfully Jason knows Carly and mini-Carly?

[LillyB]

JL was quite good looking back in the day.

[TeeVee329]

21 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I was waiting for some acknowledgement that Jason is Oscar's uncle, maybe something from Oscar about wanting to get to know Jason at last.  Did I miss it?  Or was it really all about how wonderfully Jason knows Carly and mini-Carly?

Probably better they didn't talk about the Q's.  Jason would have handed him a gun and been like, "F those squres!".

[Pingaponga]

So, Sonny is going to find a care facility for Mike because Mike set off the panic alarm.  I'm I getting that right?  It's too difficult to keep him at the house...because he set off a panic alarm Sonny left lying around.  Which is needed because Sonny is a mobster whom everyone is after.  Am I getting this?

How about keep Mike at home, and put the panic alarm in a safe, secure spot?  Or keep in a suit pocket - Sonny never does not wear a suit jacket.  Still accessible if necessary, but not available to Mike - or preschooler Avery, for that matter.

Little Ponga has Friend A whose dad is a high-ranking diplomat from a foreign country, with panic buttons hardwired into the house.  Friend A told Friend B that it controlled all the lights in the house, and told him to push it to see how it worked.  The mother was NOT impressed when a crapload of police vehicles showed up in front of the house.  Friend B's mother was mortified, Friend A's mother was furious with her own kid, and you can be sure no other friends will ever be pushing one of the panic buttons again.

Sonny would be better served with hardwired panic buttons, and a personal one he carried on his body.

[YaddaYadda]

The Kim/Oscar scene, all I could focus on was how much taller the actor was. It's like he shot up over night. He towered over TB.

I guess at least Laura wasn't sleeping with the twin brother this whole time. So good on you show for not going there.

I think that's all I have to say about today's show.

[Gam2]

I guess I missed why Kim was hanging onto Oscar and begging him to call her every few hours or at least text and kissing him over and over. WTH?

[ByaNose]

Obviously, Jason gave Oscar a seizure after the bike ride. At least, I hope so. Then Drew will kick Jason’s a**.  Yippee!!!

[dubbel zout]

5 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I really liked all the flashbacks with Kevin/Ryan, Felicia and Mac.  It's a real advantage to having the same actors in the roles 25 years later.  (And kudos to how well they've aged.)

KW has barely aged. JJY and JL look pretty much the same, especially JJY. The woman with the giant hair in the first flashback cracked me up. Lulu "asking as a friend" shows how terrible a reporter she is.

I have to say, the technology for showing both Ryan and Kevin has gotten a lot better.

That light blue LW was wearing was really flattering on her.

6 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

bias and conflict of interest

When is that ever a problem at any time unless it's plot point?

3 hours ago, Pingaponga said:

How about keep Mike at home, and put the panic alarm in a safe, secure spot?

The panic alarm is also for Mike's benefit, and if he doesn't know what's going on, a safe, secure spot isn't going to help. Mike needs to be in a facility that specializes in Alzheimer's and can handle him. Sonny hiring random GH nurses is not that facility. His ego and guilt are keeping Mike in a place that is not helping him, no matter how lovingly meant. Though, gross that now that Mike is sick Sonny finally is able to see him for who he is. "The pressure is gone." Ugh.

3 hours ago, Gam2 said:

I guess I missed why Kim was hanging onto Oscar and begging him to call her every few hours or at least text and kissing him over and over.

It's Oscar and Joss's anniversary, but Oscar is at Sonny's making a video with Jason. Everyone knows Jason is the world's best, safest babysitter. I thought it was sweet how excited Kim was about the anniversary, though. That was very mom-ish.

Of course a support group is out of the question for Michael. Ugh.

The Brad stuff is ridiculous. I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for him (and his husband, Who?), but I can't. WTF did he expect with switching babies and coming up with that galatically stupid story? And then he starts spiraling and says he has to take the kid and go on the run. Perry Chen, I love you, but Brad is exhausting when he's scheming like this.

[Cheyanne11]

I liked the flashbacks, too.  I was on one of my GH breaks during the Ryan story (I started rewatching right after, when Kevin first came to town so I remembered those scenes), so it was cool to have that point of reference.  And I guess I'm surprised that it actually was Ryan locked up until today.  I figured he was out and about and that's why "Kevin" was acting so weird.  But, no, he was acting weird because he was hiding his psychotic, murdering, presume-to-be-dead brother.  That can weigh on a person...

[movingtargetgal]

14 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I figured he was out and about and that's why "Kevin" was acting so weird.  But, no, he was acting weird because he was hiding his psychotic, murdering, presume-to-be-dead brother.  That can weigh on a person...

I know that when i had my serial killer/identical twin secretly stashed in my psychiatric hospital it was EXHAUSTING. The next time she comes back from the dead, she is on her own...I'm out.