Episode Discussion: TFGH

[P3pp3rb1rd]

3 hours ago, Perkie said:

Thank Goodness.  Maxie's been through enough, she doesn't need to lose her baby too.  

Oh but it would be so convenient for the airhead, who wouldn't need to find childcare then when she went back to being a fashionista at Crimson.

[dubbel zout]

Ava really is the queen of regrets, isn't she? She has every right to sing whatever she wants, to tell Griffin she's angry that he's never said ILY, etc., and then her massive insecurities get the better of her and she has to apologize to everyone. Ugh. It's no fun to watch, and there's no drama to it.

And hey, Griffin, maybe you shouldn't have slept with your girlfriend's daughter in the first place if you're so tortured by it, huh? 

So...Drew wants his memories back? He doesn't care? He's fine being a blank slate (insert joke here)? He's so blasé about the procedure, I keep thinking what's the point? You're mad at Jason—with good reason—but that's not the a good basis to make a big decision on.

3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

4 hours ago, Perkie said:

Anyone else think MIchael finally bought a clue and is on to Nelle.  That last conversation where he said he would be working from home so he could be there for her and the baby made me think he wants to keep a close eye on her.  

I dunno, I think it's more cementing the value Michael is placing on the baby (him/her versus his mother) and thus why Nelle, I presume, will steal Baby (who?).

I think it's both—Michael wants to keep an eye on Nelle because he's getting suspicious, and the show is setting up the baby steal.

Sonny telling Carly to "let the professionals handle it" was laughable and deserved every bit of scorn Carly gave him. And LOL at Sonny saying he's not going to tell Carly what she wants to hear and have her end up in prison. Like he wants to be told the truth when he's in that situation.

[OnceSane]

3 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Would Bensch have legal rights over the baby?  I know that in some jurisdictions rapists do even when it's rape. 

Yep.  If the show went through with Kiki claiming a Griffin baby is Dr. Bensch's through rape, I think they'd totally do a custody case with Kiki & Bensch.  

[statsgirl]

33 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

So...Drew wants his memories back? He doesn't care? He's fine being a blank slate (insert joke here)? He's so blasé about the procedure, I keep thinking what's the point? You're mad at Jason—with good reason—but that's not the a good basis to make a big decision on.

I thought Drew said about that once Jason's memories are gone, his real self will emerge. That was after Kim made a comment about a joke that he made was just like something the old Drew would have said.  Drew also said that he needed to do it for his children.  (I wonder if he included Danny and Jake in that thought.)

Knowing that Sam has dumped him for Jason, I can why he would want to get every bit of Jason out of himself.

[sunnyface]

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Ugh. It's no fun to watch, and there's no drama to it.

Top it off this a dallop of Matthew Cohen's inability to separate raising his voice and yelling from going straight into rage-mode, it can be downright uncomfortable to watch.

[Cheyanne11]

There's just no soapy anguish in this Carly/Nelle story because there is ZERO chance that Carly won't come out smelling like a rose in this.  Because, always.  Which, ya know, wouldn't be so friggin' gross if she was actually a heroine on this show and not a she-devil that the writers have decided is their matriarch.  Nelle's an idiot, but I'll never feel sorry for Carly getting some comeuppance for all the shit she's pulled over the years.

Edited May 25, 2018 by Cheyanne11

[BlancheDevoreaux]

1 hour ago, sunnyface said:

Top it off this a dallop of Matthew Cohen's inability to separate raising his voice and yelling from going straight into rage-mode, it can be downright uncomfortable to watch.

His performance with Magic Milo and his Magic Wands last year (or two years ago, I don't remember) was just embarrassing. I mean, I was truly embarrassed for him. 

[paisley]

I think I was having a good time yesterday. I figured out that if Sam would cut off those dangly arm things on the Miss Kitty dress it might be alright. There was RF!S. Some Finn/Anna. And then Dante brought it on home by slicing and dicing stupid ass LuLu. Good times.

Today we were back to crock of shit mode. Just because someone knocks at your door Dumb F**K Griffin doesn't mean you have to answer it!! With Dumb F**K post-coital Kiki hiding in the same area. I believe I lost consciousness after that because everything else mentioned here I don't remember and I'm glad about it. There is no enjoyment to be had from this impending baby disaster. So, yes, of course, add in the possibility of a Kiki pregnancy, This type of writing brilliance will surely lift GH out of 4th place. How could it not?

[TeeVee329]

The Show: You feel bad for LWB/FS, right?  Right?  RIGHT?

Me: 

[ciarra]

And Sam's Skanky Ho Award (won by sleeping with Jax and Sonny the same night) now goes to Griffin Monroe, for bedding mother and daughter in the same evening/morning.  I hope he at least showered in between. 

[ulkis]

Every time Griffin makes that "wah" face I just wanna go:

[LillyB]

I do hope that Snarly goes to prison so that we can get a Orange is the New Black sl, low budget of course.I do remember when AMC sent Erica to prison when her cell mate was a large woman named Tiny,  Good times.

[30 Helens]

It’s been apparent for months that this was where the Griffin/ Ava/ Keeks story was headed, but I was sooo hoping for a course correction.  I mean... gross. Vile. And also: redundant!  I guess this is supposed to be good soapy karmic payback for Ava sleeping with Morgan, but it’s not fun to watch. It just makes me dislike Kiki, despise Griffin, and want to take Ava by the hand and lead her far, far away, to a better soap.

[Asp Burger]

9 hours ago, sacrebleu said:

Yes. I believe Lulu may have alluded to having an abortion, subtlely.

"I had an abortion, Belle! Of the uterus!"  

[LexieLily]

I'm thrilled that Mac finally has himself a namesake! James Malcom West is a great name to honor Nathan and Mac.

"How can I do that when every time I look at you, I see my dead brother?" I'd imagine that's how Lulu feels every day, but I must say that I am very much enjoying Nina's attitude with Valentin and her newfound reluctant-friendship with Lulu. I hope both of those things last for a long time.

Edited May 25, 2018 by LexieLily

[Linny]

It was good that Dante got a chance to confront Peter and express his anger. Dante was inarguably like a brother to Nathan, so of course it's galling to him that Nathan's actual flesh and blood helped pave the way to Nathan's demise. DZ is doing excellent work, I hope he gets a scene with Maxie soon.

What bothers me about Anna protecting Peter is that she seems so convinced that he's not dangerous, that holding the gun on her was a misunderstanding with no real intent to harm, and that's pretty demonstrably not the case. Of course she wants to help her son now and she's carrying around loads of guilt for her inability to protect him as a child, but I think there's room for her to admit he's not a helpless victim here.

James Malcolm West, A+ job Maxie.

[ulkis]

29 minutes ago, Linny said:

It was good that Dante got a chance to confront Peter and express his anger. Dante was inarguably like a brother to Nathan, so of course it's galling to him that Nathan's actual flesh and blood helped pave the way to Nathan's demise.

I was pleasantly surprised that that scene happened. Wasn't a Nathan fan but I got a bit of the feels when Dante said "my brother".

Anna should have said "well it's not like he shot me in the chest" when Dante said she was gonna perjure herself for Peter.

To paraphrase very slightly, "Well, James Malcolm is a name that will wear well and not fade in the washing".

I'm exhausted watching Nina. Also not a fan of her hair parted down the middle. 

Edited May 25, 2018 by ulkis

[GHScorpiosRule]

16 hours ago, ulkis said:

Every time Griffin makes that "wah" face I just wanna go:

 

That scene in The Godfather never fails to make me ????? and that’s all due to Brando’s mock crying!!!

1 hour ago, Linny said:

 

What bothers me about Anna protecting Peter is that she seems so convinced that he's not dangerous, that holding the gun on her was a misunderstanding with no real intent to harm, and that's pretty demonstrably not the case. Of course she wants to help her son now and she's carrying around loads of guilt for her inability to protect him as a child, 

Of course he’s nothing but a puir puir victim and had no free will to choose to become who he is. This “storyline” is UTTER BULLSHIT.??????????

I bet if Peter/Heinrich shot Robin, Anna would look for a reason to excuse him. 

[TeeVee329]

4 hours ago, LexieLily said:

I'm thrilled that Mac finally has himself a namesake! James Malcom West is a great name to honor Nathan and Mac.

Awww, that's lovely.  It annoys me that Mac only got in there because of LWB/FS's betrayal, but still, awww!

[dubbel zout]

19 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

The Show: You feel bad for LWB/FS, right?  Right?  RIGHT?

I feel sorry for me having to watch this nonsense. Anna is a weepy mess, LWB/FS is pouting because Mommy is to blame for everything, Lulu says she's sorry (again) for her Girl Reporter failures, Nina leaves Valentin (again) because of his lies, etc., etc., zzzzz. All the elements are there, but it's not soapy at all.

3 hours ago, Linny said:

James Malcolm West, A+ job Maxie.

I know. I loved Mac's reaction, too.

[Perkie]

Gotta say, it got quite dusty in here when Maxie announced the baby's name.  

Loved Nina tearing a strip off of Valentin.  That better stick.  

[FilmTVGeek80]

5 hours ago, Linny said:

What bothers me about Anna protecting Peter is that she seems so convinced that he's not dangerous, that holding the gun on her was a misunderstanding with no real intent to harm, and that's pretty demonstrably not the case. Of course she wants to help her son now and she's carrying around loads of guilt for her inability to protect him as a child, but I think there's room for her to admit he's not a helpless victim here.

I think she knows he's not perfect, but I think she realizes (or hopes) that he's not pure evil like his father and that he can be saved. That, plus, her guilt is not going to make her want to be the one to send him there. Also, as far as we know, Peter hasn't killed anyone (unfortunately since his greatest crime IMO is NOT killing Jason) so I don't believe he's some menace the citizens of PC have to be protected from.

4 hours ago, ulkis said:

Anna should have said "well it's not like he shot me in the chest" when Dante said she was gonna perjure herself for Peter.

I did a double take at that moment. One thing Dante cannot get on any high horse about is committing perjury to protect a newfound family member. If I had been Anna, I totally would have thrown in his face Dante lying about Sonny shooting him.

[TeeVee329]

Previews...that's a very mean trolling of Liz fans, Show.  Because no way do I believe Jeff, No Name, and/or Sarah are coming anywhere near Port Charles.

Edited May 26, 2018 by TeeVee329

[LexieLily]

Nina and Lulu should be being civil with each other if not friendly for Charlotte's well-being but it shouldn't have taken Nathan's death to get them to this place. It is hard for me to feel sorry for Nina when THIS is what breaks her (for now), not Valentin actually pulling the trigger to shoot and kill Lulu's brother or the countless other crimes he has committed and people he has hurt due to his actions and lies and that includes Charlotte. But as long as they are being friendly I so wish for a long conversation between them where they talked no-holds-barred about everything. If they ever compared stories about things that have happened in the last few years - what happened on Cassidine Island, Nikolas' death, Charlotte's conception, Nathan's death, Peter/Heinrich - I'm willing to bet they'd find out Valentin has been lying to one or both of them about it all since the day he arrived in Port Charles.

Edited May 26, 2018 by LexieLily

[ciarra]

3 hours ago, Perkie said:

Loved Nina tearing a strip off of Valentin.  That better stick.  

I give it about a week.

I think Lulu got off too quick and too easy.  I guess Maxie found a bigger villain to hate.

I'm still finding it hard to feel sorry for Anna. 

[ulkis]

:Waves hello to @Katesus7 :

[paisley]

I totally agree with Ciarra. Maxie let Lulu slide much too easily. I guess nothing unifies like shared hatred. Maybe Dante can rip her up some more.

Why has Anna become the Queen of Poor Judgment and Bad Decisions? She used be so strong and decisive and now she's evolved into this weak, regret driven individual. And at the same time Ava is so desperate for the unspoken love of Griffin, the anointed 'Good Man'. Let's not forget Alexis, wavering in the strong breeze of her life threatening forever love Julian. So this triple A group of women  of a certain age in Port Chuck are just brainless and besotted with their son (Anna), or lovers and their brains are just seeping from their heads. Perhaps there are no stories for women where they can be strong with working brains. Love is only available to Felicia (visible as regularly as Halley's Comet), Liz (with a former world renown artist/serial killer), Robin (occasional visitor) and Carly (Mrs.Good Mobster).

Is it rude to ask for better stories?

Does anyone remember Love In The Afternoon? I do and it was good.

[MarciNJ]

I have a question; I am only halfway thru Wednesday's show, but we know that Peter was born in June of 1976, which makes him about to turn 42.   Valentin met him when he (Peter) was 10 and Valentin was already an adult.  How old is Valentin supposed to be now?  (and, how old is the actor IRL? - I know I can look it up, but I am too lazy).  We know he went to college (don't we?) and thru spy school, so at best he had to be in his mid 20s, lets say 25, when Peter was 10.  So, he is 57 now?  I don't think so.  

....sigh..... perhaps I am overthinking the show again

(and, SO happy to not have seen Sonny/Carly/Nelle yet this week)

[MarciNJ]

Random Overthinking Thoughts after the Wednesday show

1.       How did Peter manage to run into Maxie on the maternity floor (4)?  He was escorted by cops, and presumably came in thru the lobby; he also got on an elevator after his encounter.  WTF were they doing on that floor, anyway?  And why would Chase let him talk to Maxie because Sam asked him to and Maxie gave approval?  Who is running the show at the PCPD?   (dumb question….)

2.       It was the middle of the freaking night!  We know Anna’s meeting was at midnight so all the stuff that followed would have happened later.  Is everyone in town up all night?  Does no one sleep?  Why would they take Maxie to see her baby at that hour?  And, if somehow Peter got them to detour to the fourth floor, what made him think he’d see Maxie?

3.       Why was Deanna working?  Didn’t she just finish performing at the ball?  She had the night shift after that?

4.       Unless something happens later in the week to disprove this, I think that Maxie will somehow realize her baby has been switched/gone missing from watching her iBaby, but no one will believe her because she is so fragile and emotional after giving birth “al fresco” (that made me giggle) and finding out about Peter.  Wimmins, and all that.  (again, disclaimer, I have 2 more days to watch so I could be way off base)

5.       Do these women ever take off their makeup when they get home?  Am I the only one who washes that crap off as soon as I can?

6.       Speaking of makeup, how did Sam and Kiki look so flawless (dress aside, in Sam’s case) after so many hours?

7.       Ava can do better than Griffin

8.       Ava deserves to have Kiki sleep with him

9.       Once again, loved not seeing Sonny/Carly/Nelle

Off to watch Thursday and Friday

[dubbel zout]

15 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

20 hours ago, ulkis said:

Anna should have said "well it's not like he shot me in the chest" when Dante said she was gonna perjure herself for Peter.

I did a double take at that moment. One thing Dante cannot get on any high horse about is committing perjury to protect a newfound family member. If I had been Anna, I totally would have thrown in his face Dante lying about Sonny shooting him.

Dante was protecting Sonny, which makes all the difference in the world. *rolls eyes and snorts derisively*

LWB/FS seems to have taken over the mantle of Evulest Evul Who Ever Evuled in Port Charles from Julian, at least for the time being, so of course anything connected to him is The Worst. 

14 hours ago, LexieLily said:

I'm willing to bet they'd find out Valentin has been lying to one or both of them about it all since the day he arrived in Port Charles.

I'm pretty sure Lulu and Nina already know that, but for Nina it's been a matter of degrees. The LWB/FS lie hits her directly, so it's the one that finished things for her (for now).

[ciarra]

I thought the actress playing Nelle did a good job subtlety showing a bit of remorse over framing Carly with Joss.  Nelle could have turned Joss completely against her mom, but chose not to.

[Gam2]

I watched back in the days of Felicia and Frisco but don’t recall the actress playing Felicia being such a horrible actress. Her scenes in the hospital with Maxie were just cringe worthy. 

[nilyank]

54 minutes ago, ciarra said:

I thought the actress playing Nelle did a good job subtlety showing a bit of remorse over framing Carly with Joss.  Nelle could have turned Joss completely against her mom, but chose not to.

I actually don't agree with that. The reason that Joss foolishly believes what Nelle is telling her, is because Nelle is holding back. If Nelle said Carly pushed her and did deliberately and doesn't have the excuse of being mentally fragile, Joss would eventually reject what Nelle is trying to sell. Because nothing in Carly's history has shown that she would knowingly want to harm a child, especially Michael's child.

In Friday's scene with Brad, Nelle got testy when Brad express some confusion about Carly pushing her. Nelle had to pull back on her anger and just insist that it only happened because Carly is mentally ill.

The people that know and love Carly, either believe her story about Nelle setting her up (okay Jason) or they believe that something is wrong with her and she didn't mean to hurt the baby (everyone else).

[dubbel zout]

45 minutes ago, nilyank said:

The reason that Joss foolishly believes what Nelle is telling her, is because Nelle is holding back. If Nelle said Carly pushed her and did deliberately and doesn't have the excuse of being mentally fragile, Joss would eventually reject what Nelle is trying to sell. Because nothing in Carly's history has shown that she would knowingly want to harm a child, especially Michael's child.

I agree. Carly will use children against their parents, but she wouldn't physically harm them.

I get why Joss doesn't want to write off Nelle completely, but given how badly Nelle hurt the Corinthii, I wish Joss weren't quite so starry-eyed.

[ulkis]

1 hour ago, Gam2 said:

I watched back in the days of Felicia and Frisco but don’t recall the actress playing Felicia being such a horrible actress. Her scenes in the hospital with Maxie were just cringe worthy. 

She looks like she's not even making eye contact with people.

[bannana]

On ‎2018‎-‎05‎-‎25 at 1:52 PM, ulkis said:

I was pleasantly surprised that that scene happened. Wasn't a Nathan fan but I got a bit of the feels when Dante said "my brother".

Anna should have said "well it's not like he shot me in the chest" when Dante said she was gonna perjure herself for Peter.

To paraphrase very slightly, "Well, James Malcolm is a name that will wear well and not fade in the washing".

I'm exhausted watching Nina. Also not a fan of her hair parted down the middle. 

This was one of those moments that was just a missed opportunity.  The Anna we know would have said exactly that, and we were all thinking it, so why not just have her go ahead and say it?

[Ambrosefolly]

On 5/22/2018 at 3:06 PM, statsgirl said:

What a thoroughly unpleasant episode.  Jason acts like God around Anna, Anna is crying (I so much wanted her to shoot Jason) and someone needs to kill Spinelli right now.  He's hacking into the hospital data base to get info on Maxie, and then he's keeping Sam from going down to the pier because she's a weak wimminz. At least Finn contacted Robert even if he did go down to the pier.

The writing for both Anna and Peter was awful.

 

 

It wouldn't be Jason if he was looking down his pious, hypocritical nose at you.

On 5/22/2018 at 5:03 PM, statsgirl said:

Michael said that he's on the hospital board and offered to do something about Kiki's harassment but she asked him not to. WTH?  Is she not aware the Dr. Letch is harassing her? It would be so easy for someone from the Board or HR to speak to him, or move her to another doctor to shadow.

 

 

This is more damaging than her sleeping with Griffin. Someone in a position of power is offering her help and she is refusing it. But Kiki could still very well sue the hospital in the future and win because Michael didn't jump his horse and white knight for her. 

On 5/21/2018 at 3:45 PM, statsgirl said:

Max Gail is just killing it in the role.   Nice of the show to play for a full band for his song, to highlight the difference between what's in his head and what's real.

 

 

 

Mac Gail is the only one getting consistent writing, possibly because they aren't dealing with Mike as a character, but someone suffering from a disease. Everyone else has to deal with the plot driven writing. See Finola Hughes.

On 5/23/2018 at 1:16 PM, statsgirl said:

Not only are there no male allies, there are no female ones either. Kiki badly needs to talk to Pip, or Elizabeth or Kim if she feels she can't go to Monica  (who she knows after her relationships with Michael and Dillon). I can understand why she doesn't confide in Ava but there are other mentors around.

And I'd really like to see Pip's reaction.

 

 

I won't lie I absolutley hate Kiki. I see her as the sister to  the "Nice Guy"; the "Nice Girl", not the a girl that is actually nice, but a girl uses a front of being preceived as nice to get people to things for her or get them on her side and thinks of her self as a nice person, (and yes, I realize Liz sometimes falls into this, as does Laura, especially when she needed things from Scott and Stefan). I got a lot of shit when I floated the idea Morgan could be front and center of a false rape allegation, but I rather they found a better ingenue than her for a #MeToo storyline. I think it really bothers me that she barely got any blow back for her role in the wedge she drove between Michael and Morgan. I always found it weird that Carly was so anti-Nelle but so pro-Kiki, except when she tried to empathize with Heather after she kidnapped her.

I don't feel that Michael owes anything to Kiki as a friend, because she never has been one to him, only in the capacity that no person should be sexually harassed and threatened at work.

On 5/24/2018 at 5:52 AM, P3pp3rb1rd said:

Maxie has had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into adulthood. A shallow fashion puppet, she's played with fire and lost several times in her life, virtually abandoning her first baby to be brought up by cuckoo Spinelli and his busy wife, and volunteering to be a surrogate before that without checking thoroughly to see if she had any heart issues with it (since she had a heart transplant as a child). It's a good thing that none of her previous medical issues popped up when she chose to give birth in a field after partying at the Nurses' Ball and ignoring hints from the baby about its intentions to be born. And she's probably flirting with postpartum depression of some sort after learning about Peter's big lies and feeling betrayal. Yes...... poor Maxie.

 

 

 

 

On 5/24/2018 at 7:43 PM, P3pp3rb1rd said:

Oh but it would be so convenient for the airhead, who wouldn't need to find childcare then when she went back to being a fashionista at Crimson.

 

 

There was absolutely nothing Maxie wanting to work in fashion and chooseing not to have children is a valid adult decision.  Amazingly during the Guza years, even after he hung the wretched Spinelli on her, she was shown to be  hardworking, ambition, clever and willing to pay her dues working for Kate Howard as played by Meghan Ward. Working for Crimison didn't fall into her lap like it did with Lulu-she even badgered people into writting recommendations for her. Even Carly, when she was team!Lulu, Carly told Lulu that customers loved her at the boutique in the hotel.

While JFP/Guza wasn't great for her, FV seemed to be even worse. Maxie should have been one of those characters that shouldn't had her own biological children, deeply resent them giving her Georgie, especially with Spinelli and then him take the child away, thereby repeating the pattern Frisco set up. 

22 hours ago, paisley said:

I totally agree with Ciarra. Maxie let Lulu slide much too easily. I guess nothing unifies like shared hatred. Maybe Dante can rip her up some more.

Why has Anna become the Queen of Poor Judgment and Bad Decisions? She used be so strong and decisive and now she's evolved into this weak, regret driven individual. And at the same time Ava is so desperate for the unspoken love of Griffin, the anointed 'Good Man'. Let's not forget Alexis, wavering in the strong breeze of her life threatening forever love Julian. So this triple A group of women  of a certain age in Port Chuck are just brainless and besotted with their son (Anna), or lovers and their brains are just seeping from their heads. Perhaps there are no stories for women where they can be strong with working brains. Love is only available to Felicia (visible as regularly as Halley's Comet), Liz (with a former world renown artist/serial killer), Robin (occasional visitor) and Carly (Mrs.Good Mobster).

Is it rude to ask for better stories?

Does anyone remember Love In The Afternoon? I do and it was good.

 

 

Anna has become "the Queen of Poor Judgment and Bad Decisions' because FV has a plot driven producer and his plots are terrible. It doesn't matter whether or not the "reveal" was particular well done, it won't be rememberable becauseit doesn't fit in at all with the larger narrative that has going one with the Scorpios or Anna Devane. While it was believeable that Laura could havegiven birth Stravos's child while being imprisoned on an island, from everyhthing that even non-Anna obessed fans know about her, this sceniro wouldn't ever happen. Then again, FV seems to have no probably alinating long term viewers left and right.

Edited May 27, 2018 by Ambrosefolly

[Bringonthedrama]

On 5/25/2018 at 3:52 PM, ulkis said:

Anna should have said "well it's not like he shot me in the chest" when Dante said she was gonna perjure herself for Peter.

 

Does Anna even know about that? Sonny shooting Dante in the chest was way before Anna came back to Port Charles permanently. 

[ulkis]

I think she probably does. McBain figured it out by looking at his record, and having been Dante's boss she would have read it and figured it out too. That said, I don't actually necessarily think Anna would have thrown it in his face just because she might not even have thought of it because she was so focused on Peter, and I don't know if Anna would stoop to being petty. (I think Anna would consider it pettiness, whatever one thinks of it.) I don't actually think she would do it, just that she should have, heh.

[Bringonthedrama]

I really enjoyed the recent scenes with Carly, Sonny and Diane - because it was SO amusing to watch Carly seethe while Diane said Carly looks guilty in the incident with Nelle due to her well-established history of unstable/volatile behavior and being institutionalized.  It's not like Carly can deny that everything Diane brought up is true. 

I realllly wish LC as Monica had been present for Carly's line that Nelle is trying to "turn my two surviving children against me," to retort that Carly didn't deserve to have won them back in the first place after Carly covered for the bastard who murdered Michael's father and re-married same bastard after he tried to murder Josslyn's father by disabling his airplane. Carly's top priorities are her own ego/comfort and her two mobster men ... certainly not the love and welfare of her offspring.

I also really enjoyed Maxie's scene of telling Mac and Felicia that she's naming the baby James Malcolm. The joy in Mac's face was beautiful; he so deserves that after everything he's done to raise Maxie, Georgie and Robin responsibly with  a devoted father's love. I'm still annoyed that Robin and Patrick didn't name their baby after Mac, since he's been FAR more involved in their relationship over the years and Robert has been more absent than present in Robin's life from the time she was a tween/young teen when he and Anna were declared dead. 

[Ambrosefolly]

On 5/27/2018 at 11:39 AM, Bringonthedrama said:

I really enjoyed the recent scenes with Carly, Sonny and Diane - because it was SO amusing to watch Carly seethe while Diane said Carly looks guilty in the incident with Nelle due to her well-established history of unstable/volatile behavior and being institutionalized.  It's not like Carly can deny that everything Diane brought up is true. 

I realllly wish LC as Monica had been present for Carly's line that Nelle is trying to "turn my two surviving children against me," to retort that Carly didn't deserve to have won them back in the first place after Carly covered for the bastard who murdered Michael's father and re-married same bastard after he tried to murder Josslyn's father by disabling his airplane. Carly's top priorities are her own ego/comfort and her two mobster men ... certainly not the love and welfare of her offspring.

I also really enjoyed Maxie's scene of telling Mac and Felicia that she's naming the baby James Malcolm. The joy in Mac's face was beautiful; he so deserves that after everything he's done to raise Maxie, Georgie and Robin responsibly with  a devoted father's love. I'm still annoyed that Robin and Patrick didn't name their baby after Mac, since he's been FAR more involved in their relationship over the years and Robert has been more absent than present in Robin's life from the time she was a tween/young teen when he and Anna were declared dead. 

 

 

Guilty or innocent, Carly has brought this entire situation on herself. She has made it clear to Nelle that she doesn't like her and Nelle is well aware of her histories with Tony Jones, AJ and Jax, so she has figured out that she is next one on her hit list. Better get her before she can get me, probably what she thinking. The Unholy Trinity are so used to their enemies being, at least initially, ineffective, people like Ava and Nelle take them by surpise with how ruthless they can be. 

Edited May 28, 2018 by Ambrosefolly

[sunnyface]

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The Unholy Trinity are so used to their enemies being, at least initially, ineffective people like Ava

And Sonny, despite being a ruthless east coast mob king, strolls around the police department like he owns it.  When was the last time that there was a week's worth of episodes without Sonny and Carly?  With MB's 25th anniversary this summer, maybe they can send him to Puerto Rico (or a nice swim off of Pier 42, the one where Emma fed the ducks).

[P3pp3rb1rd]

On ‎5‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 1:17 PM, Gam2 said:

I watched back in the days of Felicia and Frisco but don’t recall the actress playing Felicia being such a horrible actress. Her scenes in the hospital with Maxie were just cringe worthy. 

Kristina Wagner has always played the role. What did you find so cringeworthy?

[Gam2]

Yes, I know Kristina has always played the role. Maybe she’s always sounded like she was trying really hard to remember her lines and I have just forgotten it. She speaks so slowly like she’s running the lines through her head. It’s hard to explain. I just don’t think she’s very talented. 

[Valmarmar]

3 hours ago, Gam2 said:

Yes, I know Kristina has always played the role. Maybe she’s always sounded like she was trying really hard to remember her lines and I have just forgotten it. She speaks so slowly like she’s running the lines through her head. It’s hard to explain. I just don’t think she’s very talented. 

I get it, Gam2.  It IS hard to explain.  I noticed it waaaaaay back when she first came back after the girls were grown.   Her voice is so nasal and high-pitched.  And 

her delivery is slow and OTT sugar-sweet when she is trying to speak with "feeling".  All I know is that it grates on my nerves.  

[Gam2]

Can I just say how much I hate Carly’s hair? Why can’t they give her a decent hair cut so that it doesn’t hang in her face  without her constantly having to mess with it. 

[TheMediaHo]

Actually, they had recast Felicia a number of years ago when they had need for her and she wasn't available (I think she had gone back to college) -- she was played by someone named Tammy. Around 2006 or so. IRL, Kristina Wagner has had issues with her speaking voice and had to be retaught how to speak. That's a big part of why she tends to speak slowly.

[LexieLily]

I like that Kiki finally told someone but wish that someone wasn't Liz because it just highlights the hypocrisy that Dr. Bench is supposed to be a creeper and a sexual harasser/pervert, which he is, but Liz and Kiki both love Franco, so a lot of the impact is gone. 

[Linny]

Do my ears deceive me, or is the show actually laying groundwork for a story about Liz's family? It was kind of hard to tell what with Franco shoving corn chips down his throat, but yes, I'm pretty sure that's what happened, and consider me appropriately intrigued.

After seeing Finn share scenes with both Anna and Alexis today, I've decided I really prefer him with Alexis. His kiss with Anna left me underwhelmed, and I don't feel he's as naturally at ease with Anna like he is with Alexis. And Anna's tic of peppering her sentences with "you know" comes out more when she's rambling to Finn, and that's increasingly becoming annoying to me.

Finally Kiki confides in a female colleague about Dr. Bensch's harassment. Hopefully Liz can give Kiki the support she needs to report him and he'll get his sleazy ass handed to him. I just don't want the show to use Kiki's stress and frustration from the Dr. Bensch situation to excuse her actions with Griffin, because that's not going to fly with me.

[TeeVee329]

When Franco was listing off Liz's family members, you would think he'd mention Steven Lars, the brother he and Liz share.  I dunno where this is going, but I am leery it's here to prop Franco, that a story about Liz's family will be about him proving he's the dreamiest love interest ever blah blah booo.

The Alexis/Kevin scenes were fun.

Previews...Dr. O looking fly AND murderous.  Aim those hate lasers at LWB/FS, girl!

Edited May 29, 2018 by TeeVee329