Episode Discussion: TFGH

[Cupcake04]

12 hours ago, ulkis said:

I thought of "Wayfaring Stranger" and "the parting glass", both in the public domain. I mean really, gh music dude, all you gotta do is google "mournful ballad public domain."

Plus, Danny boy was Rafe's song, damn it.

Not to mention for any Ryans Hope fans out there NO ONE will ever do Dannys Boy like Maeve and company did every St Patricks Day.  God how I loved those St Pattys eps on RH.  My mom and family were the Ryans and she never missed RH so I grew up on it.  Such a good show...God I miss it and the Ryans!  

Edited February 10, 2018 by Cupcake04
typos...damn ipad

[ulkis]

Just fyi, I was kidding about it being Rafe's song. :)

[Cupcake04]

10 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Just fyi, I was kidding about it being Rafe's song. :)

lol.  no, no I just was jumping off your post about the song in general. Reading here it seems using that song has brought a lot of responses here.  That song never fails to choke me up...that and bagpipes.  Even at a parade bagpiped bring on the water works.  Forget it at a funeral.  One of my worst sobbing spells was at an aunts funeral and unknown to me and prob mostly everyone, the bagpipers were outside on the church steps and at end of mass as soon as pallbearers started carrying casket back down aisle the bagpipers started playing from outside and played as we all followed out and omg it was haunting and mournful and yet beautiful all at same time.  Everyone was a sobbing mess!  Omg I am teary eyed now just remember it.

[CeChase]

Michelle Stafford was amazing!  And I was so happy to have ONE lousy episode without Sonny.  I just can't take it anymore.  Who is it over there that is obsessed with MB's shriveled pepperoni?  

As for Nathan, I actually really liked him, but I get that the actor wants to move on.  He is extraordinary looking and you don't keep that forever.  If they haven't cast the new Magnum yet, that's their guy.

Let's face it, you don't need to be Brando to play that role, and Ryan is one of the best looking actors I've seen in years.  I am pretty meh on most of the men they are passing off as hot, and mean i primetime.

[ulkis]

I guess the whole situation with Nathan felt like lazy writing to me. Fucking Faison is on the loose. Nathan just did that stupid interview. Dude probably should have been in full body armour with some kind of helmet. Or should have gone into hiding or something.

@seasons, that's GH for you. Even now I don't get the point of making Nathan Faison's son after all. To connect Peter to Maxie and the baby? But even then, they should have at least let Nathan and Faison have some sort of moment after all that angsting on Nathan's part.

[Hater]

12 minutes ago, CeChase said:

Michelle Stafford was amazing!  And I was so happy to have ONE lousy episode without Sonny.  I just can't take it anymore.  Who is it over there that is obsessed with MB's shriveled pepperoni?  

As for Nathan, I actually really liked him, but I get that the actor wants to move on.  He is extraordinary looking and you don't keep that forever.  If they haven't cast the new Magnum yet, that's their guy.

Let's face it, you don't need to be Brando to play that role, and Ryan is one of the best looking actors I've seen in years.  I am pretty meh on most of the men they are passing off as hot, and mean i primetime.

If you don't kiss Mo's ass over there, he gets you fired.  See Ron C in 2015.  

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, HeatLifer said:

I honestly thought it was great they brought LL back as Georgie. Otherwise, I couldn't muster to feel anything for a pretty much useless character who did absolutely nothing of substance for the past four years, played by a mediocre actor. I also don't give one single flying fuck to psychotic characters like Nina and sweet little Liesl.

Yes, the Maxie and Georgie scene was well done. Although I thought Georgie would mention her namesake, little Georgie, along with this baby as reasons for Maxie to keep moving forward, and that she and BJ are looking out for Maxie. I find it interesting that the times Georgie appears are when Maxie is pregnant and in emotional crisis. 

I thought Stafford was great in this instance, with the honest, restrained and quiet grief reflecting on Nathan as a little boy and the character traits he still had as a man. She's the one person who could speak about that; Liesl was just getting to know him in recent years .. did I miss a mention of Donna Mills/Nathan's bio aunt who raised him as her own son? I assume she's still in prison and can't come to the funeral, but it's glaring to me that Frisco is mentioned and there was a moment of Liesl trying to reach Britt, but no mention or presence of Lucas Jones or the aunt-mother who actually raised Nina and Nathan. Not mentioning Lucas when he was the first doctor on scene after Nathan was shot is an idiotic mistake. All it would take is for Bobbie to say to Maxie, "Lucas is really sorry he's not here; he was called at the last minute to help with an emergency surgery."

[Oracle42]

Ron C dropped the ratings into the toilet and got into fights with minors on Twitter. I don't know whether MB had a say in RC's firing but I doubt he would have if RC hadn't shot himself directly and repeatedly in the foot. 

Edited February 11, 2018 by Oracle42

[LexieLily]

56 minutes ago, ulkis said:

 

@seasons, that's GH for you. Even now I don't get the point of making Nathan Faison's son after all. To connect Peter to Maxie and the baby? But even then, they should have at least let Nathan and Faison have some sort of moment after all that angsting on Nathan's part.

Now that Nathan is dead, I think Maxie's baby surviving has very little to do with Maxie and 95% to give Nina some sort of relationship connection to anyone on canvas.

[dubbel zout]

17 hours ago, ulkis said:

Plus, Danny boy was Rafe's song, damn it.

Snerk.

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

@seasons, that's GH for you. Even now I don't get the point of making Nathan Faison's son after all. To connect Peter to Maxie and the baby? But even then, they should have at least let Nathan and Faison have some sort of moment after all that angsting on Nathan's part.

As always, GH sets up something only to completely ignore the obvious beats. I don't think Peter being Faison's son is necessary to connect him to Maxie. Their professional relationship is deeper than the familial one at this point. Ugh. It's all so stupid.

[Perkie]

Did I see correctly? At the end before the confrontation with Lulu, was Maxie kneeling down and was there freshly disturbed earth where the casket had been? Because, show runners who live in California, we don't bury the dead in the winter, we have to wait until spring, since the earth is FROZEN and you can't dig a hole in it. People who pass during the winter months, are kept at the morgue until the spring (my dad passed at the end of March and though we had the church/funeral at that time, we had to come back in May for the cemetary part of it)

 

I started crying as soon as Georgie showed up. I love LL and thought her death was a huge mistake. I liked the ending with Georgie and Nathan leaving together. I thought KSt and MSt did good jobs. I thought Jordan's speech was well done.

I did not like having Peter there. Having Griffin escort Anna and Robin made me wonder why he couldn't be Anna's son/Robin's brother, rather than stupid Peter. Hate Spin so I hated him singing that song, had to fast forward.

Interesting ending with Maxie confronting Lulu.

[Perkie]

5 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

Otherwise, I couldn't muster to feel anything for a pretty much useless character who did absolutely nothing of substance for the past four years, played by a mediocre actor

I was actually glad we had as much fanfare as we did. Nathan was one of the good guys, a cop, not a mobster/villain. He was shot in the line of duty, protecting a pregnant woman (not shot in the back protecting his mobster accountant). So yeah, give him the pomp and ceremony of a law enforcement funeral, have all the characters who should be there, I'm all for it. Though I do think Lucas and Alexis should have been there.

[ulkis]

I think Olivia would have been there too, because of Dante and because she actually spent time with Nathan and maxie. But I'm surpised they got out as many people as they did.

I don't really have a problem with GH giving Nathan a decent service, but Nikolas, for example, should have gotten a decent service as well. It could have been NB's emmy reel! 

[Benji]

What about Amy's brother, Chet ? Did he go away to rehab ? If not, it would have made sense for him to be there, as Nathan helped pay for his medical bills, and also to support his sister who lost a good friend. I didn't care for his character, but he was an example of someone Nathan helped and that was one of Nathan's best qualities.

[dubbel zout]

20 minutes ago, ulkis said:

But I'm surpised they got out as many people as they did.

Frank splashed out for a decent number of extras, and he also brought in Spin and Valerie. But if he was going to include Amy, the Whos? should have been there, too.

Speaking of Lucas (who?), I really don't get the point of him having him at the MetroCourt to work on Nathan and then vanishing for the rest of the story.

[TeeVee329]

33 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Speaking of Lucas (who?), I really don't get the point of him having him at the MetroCourt to work on Nathan and then vanishing for the rest of the story.

Yup, as I said in my earlier comment, inserting him into day one of this story, and then his not only disappearing, but the show acting like he was never involved in it in the first place, just made his (who?)-ness all the more glaring.

[Perkie]

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

but Nikolas, for exampl

But I think with Nik, they were considering recasting at one point, either with the guy who replaced Tyler or with someone else.  They left it very wide open whether Nik was dead or not (remember that phone call Ava got who she thought was from Nik and then that plot was dropped because, well, it didn't involve Morgan, Sonny, Carly or Jason.  )

[dubbel zout]

I wouldn't be surprised if Nik returns. He likely won't be played by TC, but you never know. 

[LexieLily]

45 minutes ago, Perkie said:

But I think with Nik, they were considering recasting at one point, either with the guy who replaced Tyler or with someone else.  They left it very wide open whether Nik was dead or not (remember that phone call Ava got who she thought was from Nik and then that plot was dropped because, well, it didn't involve Morgan, Sonny, Carly or Jason.  )

Did they really leave it open-ended, though? I thought it was clear that Nikolas was dead (and at Valentin's hand). The constant refrain of "but there was no body found" was only Valentin protesting too much.

[ciarra]

8 hours ago, ulkis said:

Dude probably should have been in full body armour with some kind of helmet.

Faison threat aside, Nathan was in uniform because he and Dante were keeping watch at the Charles St. demonstration.  A vest should have been part of his gear for riot control. 

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

Did they really leave it open-ended, though? I thought it was clear that Nikolas was dead (and at Valentin's hand). The constant refrain of "but there was no body found" was only Valentin protesting too much.

The show gets it both ways, as is its wont.

[Ambrosefolly]

On 2/5/2018 at 7:03 AM, P3pp3rb1rd said:

Lulu doesn't just screw up. She has an ego and a mouth as big as Pittsburgh when she decides to go on a mission or goal. It's Lulu's way or the highway at those times. And she definitely doesn't think through about the consequences of her rash and impulsive insights and decisions. She's a bull in a china shop. Then if it doesn't work out she's all "rut roh I goofed" and blinking like a big doll at the carnival or a 5-year old child who's dropped her ice cream. Her parents were Supercouple Luke and Laura, with their own giant hubris problems, and Bro Lucky isn't all that successful as a responsible adult. I want to like her, because she is a good parent, but she should think through her actions and decisions. To grow into full responsible adulthood, Lulu needs this realization. 

 

And she won't get it because TPTB just don't care. While Lulu pursuing a new career isn't terrible, there should have been a longer lead up to it because she is a married 30 something with kids not a girl fresh out of college. Molly or Kristina would have both worked better in the role of reckless investigative journalist.  I mean really, her kids are under the age of ten, they are still going to be a lot of work. I wonder if Emme laughed out loud when she first read that line since she 3 kids herself and works a full time job. I think the canvas has become so sparse that they randomly slot the characters into these roles. And they won't have Lulu do any real soul search or true redemption because she really isn't one FV or the writers' characters, unlike Franco or Dr. O or Nina. It is shitty that Nathan, a nice but rather uninspiring character played by a bland actor got a better send off than AJ Quartermaine.

[Sake614]

13 hours ago, Perkie said:

don't bury the dead in the winter, we have to wait until spring, since the earth is FROZEN and you can't dig a hole in it. People who pass during the winter months, are kept at the morgue until the spring (my dad passed at the end of March and though we had the church/funeral at that time, we had to come back in May for the cemetary part of it)

I’m in NYC. My dad passed in January and he was buried three days later. I guess it depends how cold it’s been and whether the ground is truly frozen. But I’ve seen fresh graves dug At various times during winter months. 

[Perkie]

Maybe it's a Canadian thing then, maybe our earth is more frozen!!

[Cheyanne11]

11 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said:

And she won't get it because TPTB just don't care. While Lulu pursuing a new career isn't terrible, there should have been a longer lead up to it because she is a married 30 something with kids not a girl fresh out of college. Molly or Kristina would have both worked better in the role of reckless investigative journalist.  I mean really, her kids are under the age of ten, they are still going to be a lot of work. I wonder if Emme laughed out loud when she first read that line since she 3 kids herself and works a full time job. I think the canvas has become so sparse that they randomly slot the characters into these roles. And they won't have Lulu do any real soul search or true redemption because she really isn't one FV or the writers' characters, unlike Franco or Dr. O or Nina. It is shitty that Nathan, a nice but rather uninspiring character played by a bland actor got a better send off than AJ Quartermaine.

Even though I light a candle every day that Kristina stays away and Molly is getting on my nerves, I agree with the bolded statement.  It would be nice to see Molly's pissy attitude at work for something that wasn't berating Julian. 

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Did they really leave it open-ended, though? I thought it was clear that Nikolas was dead (and at Valentin's hand). The constant refrain of "but there was no body found" was only Valentin protesting too much.

Very much open-ended.  No body always equates to bringing the character back at some point.  In this case, it seemed like a quick way (and not very good one) to get the character off the canvas asap, with the intention of revisiting at some point.

[sunnyface]

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It would be nice to see Molly's pissy attitude at work for something that wasn't berating Julian. 

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Molly or Kristina would have both worked better in the role of reckless investigative journalist.

It's not like Molly published a book recently.

[Oracle42]

Whether or not FV planned to (badly) recast and bring back Nik, the other characters considered him dead so he should have gotten a funeral. 

FV actually did kill off AJ, same thing.

Nathan didn't get a funeral because he was one of the "good guys", he got days of mourning and a full episode with a funeral because he's one of FV's favorites

[GHScorpiosRule]

15 hours ago, Ambrosefolly said:

It is shitty that Nathan, a nice but rather uninspiring character played by a bland actor got a better send off than AJ Quartermaine.

THIS SO MUCH. And I can’t recall if an entire episode was dedicated to Robin’s funeral either. I do recall how Mooby tried to make it about himself, which is in character for someone who supposedly said he loved her, couldn’t stop to think about her. But then again, it’s always ALL ABOUT SONNY.???

And why was Peter even there? He wasn’t family as far as the characters know, neither was he a friend. He should have just been better used as lurking and thinking about what he set in motion. But Nathan should have also been wearing Kevlar.

That all said, I did do my share of crying.

Edited February 11, 2018 by GHScorpiosRule

[GHScorpiosRule]

Then there’s the further proof that the PCPD are nothing but keystone cops. Actually asking Peter should he find the bullet that Faison shot him with, to please let them know? Instead of being suspicious of him and ask him was he Superman or the Flash, that he was able to dodge the bullet?

If this was ROBERTFUCKING!SCORPIO’S GH, or even ANNAFUCKING!DEVANE’S or SEAN DONNELY’S GH, we’d have competent cops. Mac as Commissioner was never allowed to win because by that point, Mooby was the “hero” and cops the bad guys. Exception was when Liz was raped.

[yowsah1]

On 2/11/2018 at 7:12 AM, Sake614 said:

I’m in NYC. My dad passed in January and he was buried three days later. I guess it depends how cold it’s been and whether the ground is truly frozen. But I’ve seen fresh graves dug At various times during winter months. 

I've seen funerals where they use big heaters to unfreeze the ground for the grave so that it can be dug and re-filled.

I'll be the one to say it - there has been a definite improvement in the writing for GH ever since CvE has come on board*, and this episode is Exhibit A why.  Every beat was played perfectly, KSt was given a real chance to shine, other characters were fleshed out, and GH history was drawn on in a real and respectful way.  I was no big fan of Nathan, but I was in tears throughout!

* - I'm not going to go crazy and say the Golden Age of GH is back or anything, there are still plenty of problems with the writing.  But at least CvE seems to be able to balance out the canvas somewhat and craft good character and plot beats.

Edited February 13, 2018 by yowsah1

[ulkis]

I think it's still a pretty hot mess, but at least it isn't stultifying like with JP. I do think CVE was given two big advantages though that she wasn't though - SB returning, and being allowed to stop writing Nelle as a heroine/having to write the Michael/Nelle romance.

And I do feel bad for the writers somewhat. It's clear Uncle Frank puts his shitty two cents in everywhere.

[nilyank]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And why was Peter even there? He wasn’t family as far as the characters know, neither was he a friend. He should have just been better used as lurking and thinking about what he set in motion. But Nathan should have also been wearing Kevlar.

 

Well if he wasn't Faison's secret son, it makes sense for him to be there as he is indirectly Maxie's boss and he was there when Nathan got shot.

[tvgoddess]

But he barely even knows Maxie. I thought he was entirely out of place. And just shoehorned in where he doesn't belong just because he's LW's boyfriend.

[OnceSane]

I think he was shoehorned in by the actor being hired, but not by Peter attending the funeral.  But I think it would have been better for him to show up after everyone else had left (& after Maxie gives Lulu a tongue-lashing).

[ulkis]

But then Lulu couldn't run to him for a comforting hug after Maxie tears into her. Well she could but it would be the equivalent of Liz running up sixteen flights of stairs or however many it was.

Edited February 11, 2018 by ulkis

[Oracle42]

16 minutes ago, ulkis said:

but it would be the equivalent of Liz running up sixteen flights of stairs or however many it was.

In a blackout!!

[bannana]

I really liked the episode, but:

• Why were all the women wearing shoes instead of fancy boots, whilst walking around in the snow?
• Lulu dodging and weaving with that deer in headlights look throughout was just embarrassing for her.  Earlier in the week she said she hadn't been to visit Maxie because she didn't want anyone there, but Lulu is her best friend.  It seemed very disrespectful of her to show up at the funeral without having reached out, and then to hide until everyone was gone and then approach Maxie.  Of course Maxie is going to be angry with Lulu, but they will have to work through it.  Lulu's cowardice and her stunned look when Maxie lashed out is doing her no favours.
• If Valentin and Peter are in cahoots, then Valentin essentially contributed to or was the catalyst for Nathan's death.  I guess when Nina finds out about that, he better run fast.
• I thought it was nice that people like Bobbie, who have a connection to Maxie, were there.  But as you all have noted, there were some pretty glaring omissions of people that should have come out of respect for Nathan and/or Maxie.

On ‎2018‎-‎02‎-‎10 at 10:36 AM, Cupcake04 said:

Not to mention for any Ryans Hope fans out there NO ONE will ever do Dannys Boy like Maeve and company did every St Patricks Day.  God how I loved those St Pattys eps on RH.  My mom and family were the Ryans and she never missed RH so I grew up on it.  Such a good show...God I miss it and the Ryans!  

@Cupcake04, I thought the same thing!  I think Spin and Amy did a nice job, but that song is just so strongly tied to Ryan's Hope.  But I liked Liesl's reaction to them singing it.

[GHScorpiosRule]

20 minutes ago, ulkis said:

But then Lulu couldn't run to him for a comforting hug after Maxie tears into her. Well she could but it would be the equivalent of Liz running up sixteen flights of stairs or however many it was.

Not even close. Since Lulu and Peter don’t have the history/friendship/love that Liz and Jason had during that time.

[ulkis]

4 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Not even close. Since Lulu and Peter don’t have the history/friendship/love that Liz and Jason had during that time.

It was a joke, I just meant the distance she would have to go to to get to Peter if he weren't already there.

4 hours ago, bannana said:

Earlier in the week she said she hadn't been to visit Maxie because she didn't want anyone there, but Lulu is her best friend.  It seemed very disrespectful of her to show up at the funeral without having reached out, and then to hide until everyone was gone and then approach Maxie. 

I think it would have looked a lot worse if she avoided the man's funeral, even if she hadn't reached out beforehand. And I could be confused, but I thought she said she tried to call but was told Maxie didn't want to talk to anyone. And if Lulu had gone to Maxie before then she probably would have been accused of trying to make herself feel better, like when she tried to get into Nathan's room right after he was shot, and it wouldn't have been completely incorrect.

I do agree it was a mistake to approach Maxie after everyone had left, but I don't know if it would have been better if she approached her while everyone was still there either.I mean, Lulu can't really do anything here. if she said, "it's all my fault" Maxie would just say, yeah, it is. And if she said it wasn't all her fault she would look like an ass trying to get Maxie to forgive her so soon.*

*Now I'm imagining Lulu starting to hang out with Liz or someone and Lulu asking HOW LONG WAS I SUPPOSED TO WAIT when Maxie asks what is going on, heh.

Edited February 12, 2018 by ulkis

[bannana]

1 minute ago, ulkis said:

It was a joke, I just meant the distance she would have to go to to get to Peter if he weren't already there.

I think it would have looked a lot worse if she avoided the man's funeral, even if she hadn't reached out beforehand. And I could be confused, but I thought she said she tried to call but was told Maxie didn't want to talk to anyone. And if Lulu had gone to Maxie before then she probably would have been accused of trying to make herself feel better, like when she tried to get into Nathan's room right after she was shot, and it wouldn't have been completely incorrect. I do agree it was a mistake to approach Maxie after everyone had left, but I don't know if it would have been better if she approached her while everyone was still there.

I mean, Lulu can't really do anything here. if she said, "it's all my fault" Maxie would just say, yeah, it is. And if she said it wasn't all her fault she would look like an ass trying to get Maxie to forgive her so soon.*

*Now I'm imagining Lulu starting to hang out with Liz or someone and Lulu asking HOW LONG WAS I SUPPOSED TO WAIT when Maxie asks what is going on, heh.

I think she was wise to wait until the end, in case Maxie went off on her, but I really think as her best friend, she should have reached out to Maxie before the funeral.  It felt very off.  Sam was with Maxie and Lulu was not.

She did say to someone (Curtis?) that Maxie didn't want to see anyone, but as her best friend, she needed to find a way to reach her after Nathan died.  Agreed, not at the hospital, but before the funeral.

I just thought it was hilarious how she attended the funeral  with those big innocent WTF eyes, but knew enough to keep out of Maxie's eyeline.  I don't think she even walked up to the coffin to pay her respects during the service, but we had people like Peter doing so!  But if she had, Maxie probably would have lunged at her.

[ulkis]

5 minutes ago, bannana said:

I think she was wise to wait until the end, in case Maxie went off on her, but I really think as her best friend, she should have reached out to Maxie before the funeral.  It felt very off.  Sam was with Maxie and Lulu was not.

She did say to someone (Curtis?) that Maxie didn't want to see anyone, but as her best friend, she needed to find a way to reach her after Nathan died.  Agreed, not at the hospital, but before the funeral.

I just thought it was hilarious how she attended the funeral  with those big innocent WTF eyes, but knew enough to keep out of Maxie's eyeline.  I don't think she even walked up to the coffin to pay her respects during the service, but we had people like Peter doing so!  But if she had, Maxie probably would have lunged at her.

Do you mean later on when they were laying down the flowers? Because she approached it before that inside the church.

As lavish as the episode was, now I wonder if FV was actually annoyed that RP left, since they didn't give Nathan the no body treatment.

Edited February 11, 2018 by ulkis

[bannana]

2 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Do you mean later on when they were laying down the flowers? Because she approached it before that inside the church.

As lavish as the episode was, now I wonder if FV was actually annoyed that RP left, since they didn't give Nathan the no body treatment.

Thanks, I missed that.  Did Maxie see her?

[ulkis]

Just now, bannana said:

Thanks, I missed that.  Did Maxie see her?

I don't know. She was sitting there, but I guess she could have been not looking when Lulu was up there.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Another thing that I thought was off was that Anna and Robin weren’t standing with Mac and Felicia as family. Because Robin and Maxie are cousins in all the ways that count, and in addition to being her aunt by marriage, Anna is also Maxie’s godmother. Though I suppose I should be grateful that they remained after hugging Maxie, instead of moving along.

But no words between Robin and Maxie? Like how or why Patrick couldn’t be there, considering she was his rock after Robin “died?” Well, one of them. Clearly Jason couldn’t be there as Patrick, because he’s playing another role on a rival soap, but here’s an example of missing a beat, if you will. 

And if Obrecht is suffering? Then GOOD. It’s the least she deserves, since she hasn’t PAID for a single thing where Robin’s kidnapping and torture and blackmailing is concerned. And I don’t consider her “suffering” being evidence of her redemption. To do that, she should have had to PAY in some form of payment in actions to prove she was remorseful of what she did. Because as far as I can see, she’s not. 

[Bringonthedrama]

2 hours ago, bannana said:

I don't think she even walked up to the coffin to pay her respects during the service, but we had people like Peter doing so!  But if she had, Maxie probably would have lunged at her.

She sort of did. She stood next to Dante, looking down at Nathan's body and weeping as Dante mournfully saluted Nathan.  I don't think Maxie was paying attention at that moment, though.

[dubbel zout]

2 hours ago, bannana said:

her stunned look when Maxie lashed out

That's Lulu's default look when someone pushes back. It's pretty much every character's default look when someone pushes back. No one takes responsibility for their actions on this show, unless it's as a martyr.

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

And I could be confused, but I thought she said she tried to call but was told Maxie didn't want to talk to anyone.

That is what happened. I think Lulu was right to stay away. Let Maxie set the pace during that time.

2 hours ago, ulkis said:

As lavish as the episode was, now I wonder if FV was actually annoyed that RP left, since they didn't give Nathan the no body treatment.

To me, Nathan is the kind of character that needs to stay dead. He simply doesn't have the history or importance to be brought back. His death can be a plot point in the right way, for a change.

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

But no words between Robin and Maxie?

I know! If Robin was brought back solely to tell Anna to go after Finn, that's pathetic. I hope we get a scene with Robin and Maxie this week.

[ulkis]

Damn Lulu, for causing Dante to look all vulnerable and tragic and stoic. How . . . terrible. Yes, terrible, terrible. 

Edited February 15, 2018 by ulkis

[ByaNose]

On 2/10/2018 at 2:01 PM, CeChase said:

Michelle Stafford was amazing!  And I was so happy to have ONE lousy episode without Sonny.  I just can't take it anymore.  Who is it over there that is obsessed with MB's shriveled pepperoni?  

As for Nathan, I actually really liked him, but I get that the actor wants to move on.  He is extraordinary looking and you don't keep that forever.  If they haven't cast the new Magnum yet, that's their guy.

Let's face it, you don't need to be Brando to play that role, and Ryan is one of the best looking actors I've seen in years.  I am pretty meh on most of the men they are passing off as hot, and mean i primetime.

OMG! He would be a great Magnum if it’s in the old CBS kind of way. If it’s gonna be dark and depressing I’d pass on him.

Overall, that was one of saddest GH episodes I’ve seen in a long time. The soaps really don't do the killing off of major characters like this anymore. RP was a knight & shinning kind of character. JJY did more by not talking in the whole episode then most do while talking. That said, did he ever actually speak? I’m sure RP will show up on the CW or Fox soon. Maybe, he could play a fireman on the new Shonda Rhimes show. He would be HOT!!!!

 ETA: I know they killed off Morgan and had a funeral but it involved Sonny & Carly......and, um, I hate Sonny & Carly so I don’t care.......

Edited February 12, 2018 by ByaNose

[ciarra]

4 hours ago, ulkis said:

I don't think she even walked up to the coffin to pay her respects during the service, but we had people like Peter doing so! 

Peter, looking bereft to the point of why isn't anyone suspicious of this guy?  Sure you could pass it off as shock over what happened at the Crimson office, but for all these people who claim to be P.I.'s and all-knowing, I wonder why they aren't taking a second look at the guy clutching the white rose. 

[LexieLily]

5 hours ago, ulkis said:

I think it would have looked a lot worse if she avoided the man's funeral, even if she hadn't reached out beforehand. And I could be confused, but I thought she said she tried to call but was told Maxie didn't want to talk to anyone. And if Lulu had gone to Maxie before then she probably would have been accused of trying to make herself feel better, like when she tried to get into Nathan's room right after he was shot, and it wouldn't have been completely incorrect.

I wonder who answered the phone when Lulu called. Mac and Felicia, if they said it would be best if Lulu stayed away and that Maxie didn't want to see anyone at this time, Lulu was right to respect that because Mac and Felicia are Maxie's parents and they should be closing ranks and protecting her and the unborn grandchild at this time. What I don't want to see start to happen is for Nina or Liesl, more likely Nina, to manipulate Maxie's grief in such a way that they turn Maxie even more against Lulu. 

40 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Peter, looking bereft to the point of why isn't anyone suspicious of this guy?  Sure you could pass it off as shock over what happened at the Crimson office, but for all these people who claim to be P.I.'s and all-knowing, I wonder why they aren't taking a second look at the guy clutching the white rose. 

Why was Peter even at the funeral? No one knows he is Faison's son and Nathan's secret brother. He's been an employee at Crimson for a month or two at best and how many people do you know that go to a co-worker's/mere acquaintance's funeral?