Episode Discussion: TFGH

[movingtargetgal]

7 hours ago, Aurora2 said:

Just as we've seen Maxie and Lulu fight too many times and make up, we've also seen Lulu's "failure to think" have repercussions with increasingly serious consequences.  Sure, she was hardly the only reason things went badly in this story - but, once again, she is a catalyst.   And I, for one, am bone weary of this repeated motif for her. 

In my opinion Lulu does not suffer from "failure to think syndrome".  She has a raging case of "I am Luke Spencer's daughter and I want what I want and it's my way or the highway entitlement syndrome".

It is such bullshit that Sonny and Jason are saving the day because poor Anna just can't take care of Faison herself.  This is when Anna should be calling on Robert and Mac for the assist. Hell Robin can be a part of the team too.  The Devane/Scorpio family has been tormented by Faison for decades they should be the ones to stop Faison once and for all.  

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[TeeVee329]

3 hours ago, ulkis said:

Before I thought Maxie was pregnant for their fans but now I realize it's probably for Nina to be connected to. 

I still think there's going to be some kind of shenanigans either with Nelle or Lucas (who?) and Brad's (who?) adoption plans.

[HeatLifer]

8 hours ago, Aurora2 said:

, if not Anna – if her fatigue and her illness have been deemed too great to enable her to be the hero (eyeroll) - then the other person with past and present reasons to end Faison's reign of terror is Nathan's mother, Liesl. 

I'd rather see Robin repeatedly kicking that psychotic bitch -- who should have been written off this show years ago -- in her kneecaps and beating Faison with a baseball bat as Option 2.

[Valmarmar]

I was hoping for a more cerebral storyline w/ Faison, ending w an epic kill or two.  

Amy is ANNOYING!!!!!!!  GEEZE !!!

[Ladyrain]

6 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

I still think there's going to be some kind of shenanigans either with Nelle or Lucas (who?) and Brad's (who?) adoption plans.

Me too!  My mind started dreaming up scenarios, all crazily implausible.  Then I remembered this was GH, land of space aliens and Ice Princesses.

[sunnyface]

Things that particularly tick off this viewer w/r/t Friday's episode are as folllows:

It took me four times to restart watching this episode that should have been a nail biter.  'F' to Frank V.

Jason/Sonny are better at stopping crime than the local and international police departments.  What are these two guys still doing on this soap?

So they removed a GH icon in order to give it to some wooden actor guy who is not going to be a doctor/medical staff.   One gone from Nina's sphere and immediately replaced by someone who was not cast to buttress the medical sphere of GH.

However, I am enjoying FH, NLG, and ME and they appear to be enjoying working together - so no immediate barge plans.

[Sake614]

Damn Anders Hove was a fine-looking man when he was younger! I wasn’t watching during that time so I’ve only seen him in psycho mode. 

12 hours ago, Perkie said:

Well duh, everyone knows that when you get shot in the chest, you should be looked at by the neurosurgeon and not the trauma surgeon and/or the cardiologist you have on staff.

Also, internal bug doctor Finn is in there, checking out Faison's gun shot, so there's that.  

Well in fairness, whatever doctor Is up next gets to work on the patient brought into the ER. They don’t stop to ask for a specialist when they’re trying to save lives. once they get out of the ER is a whole other story. But we all know that the GH doctors can do anything!

[Perkie]

20 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

whatever doctor Is up next gets to work on the patient brought into the ER.

But Finn wasn't on duty (or on call).  He was actually a patient!!

21 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Well in fairness, whatever doctor Is up next gets to work on the patient brought into the ER

Where I come from, when you go to the ER, you see an ER doctor.  Specialists aren't usually hanging out in the ER unless they've been called down to see someone specific.  (ie, I had kidney stones, was seen by ER doc, then urologist was called down to see me).    Lucas is a trauma/ER doctor, so it makes sense for him to be there.  Unless Nathan's injuries are neurological, there would be no reason for Griffin to be called in.  But yeah, GH does whatever it wants

[nilyank]

22 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Where I come from, when you go to the ER, you see an ER doctor.  Specialists aren't usually hanging out in the ER unless they've been called down to see someone specific.  (ie, I had kidney stones, was seen by ER doc, then urologist was called down to see me).    Lucas is a trauma/ER doctor, so it makes sense for him to be there.  Unless Nathan's injuries are neurological, there would be no reason for Griffin to be called in.  But yeah, GH does whatever it wants

Well maybe Lucas realized that Nathan didn't have a brain and called in Finn for a consult.

Actually, I was enjoying Lucas yesterday in family talking to Bobbie and Carly about expanding his family with Brad and then being all heroic rushing into danger to help as a doctor. It actually seemed like he was a character on the show that was getting regular storylines for that one day yesterday.

[ByaNose]

8 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Well maybe Lucas realized that Nathan didn't have a brain and called in Finn for a consult.

Actually, I was enjoying Lucas yesterday in family talking to Bobbie and Carly about expanding his family with Brad and then being all heroic rushing into danger to help as a doctor. It actually seemed like he was a character on the show that was getting regular storylines for that one day yesterday.

I enjoyed seeing Lucas, too. I thought it was funny when Carly said they already knew he was gay. That said, it was so random seeing him after all this time. Hopefully, they’ll play the story out & have Brad show up as well. 

[peachmangosteen]

1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

Damn Anders Hove was a fine-looking man when he was younger!

I think he looks better now. I don't know what that says about me.

4 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Hopefully, they’ll play the story out & have Brad show up as well. 

LOL good one!

[ByaNose]

6 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I think he looks better now. I don't know what that says about me.

LOL good one!

Wait! Are you excusing FV of not following through and not caring about the fans? LOL!!!!!

[Oracle42]

36 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Wait! Are you excusing FV of not following through and not caring about the fans? LOL!!!!!

How dare you!! He cares deeply about RoHo, MSt and ME fans. 

[Sake614]

@perkie, same here but I guess at GH all the doctors take turns in the ER. I mean there aren’t that many of them to begin with, so they’re all probably needed everywhere!

[ByaNose]

I will say I really do miss when the show took place in the hospital. I know that’s crazy for a show called General Hospital. LOL!!! I’ve been watching since around 1978. Between the nurses station and the hospital cafeteria there more drama then you could ever imagine. There were great mature characters (they seemed so mature but were pretty young then) such as Alan, Rick, Monica, Leslie, Gail, Lee, Audrey, Jessie & Steve. Of course, there were hints of Bobbie, Scotty, Laura and later on, Luke. OMG! It was sooooooo good then. I’m 52 now so I was young in 1978 but I was totally into these “old” characters. I never even thought I needed to watch teenagers on a soap. The other day when the whole Genie Francis thing was going down I thought of David Hamilton. It’s crazy that thought of him and it’s been over 40 years. Too funny!!!

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 hours ago, Perkie said:

 

Where I come from, when you go to the ER, you see an ER doctor. Specialists aren't usually hanging out in the ER unless they've been called down to see someone specific. (ie, I had kidney stones, was seen by ER doc, then urologist was called down to see me).    Lucas is a trauma/ER doctor, so it makes sense for him to be there.  Unless Nathan's injuries are neurological, there would be no reason for Griffin to be called in.  But yeah, GH does whatever it wants

THIS! And just as an example, I was taken to the ER a couple weeks ago

I started hemorrhaging

and I was seen by an ER doctor, a couple of nurses, then a couple more doctors asking me questions to make sure I was lucid, and then the OBGYN surgeon came, before it was determined I had to have surgery. So being so close to what happened and watching yesterday just made me ???

But then again, this show isn’t what it used to be when it was actually good.

[sunnyface]

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I will say I really do miss when the show took place in the hospital. I know that’s crazy for a show called General Hospital. LOL!!! I’ve been watching since around 1978.

I hear ya.  I've been watching at least as long (but took a two-decade break - came back because someone told me that James Franco was on the show - and got sucked back in) and my brain still cannot process the fascination with the violent Corinthos family.  Sonny and Jason sit around think and talk (or mumble and blink) about 'revenge' - real and perceived.  Every couple of months they get some action scenes where they are afforded the opportunity to 'save' some folks from violence.  Meanwhile, FV, RC, and those idiots responsible for this character's standing on this show have FAILED to explain what exactly mob business that Sonny is in - supposedly not drugs, human trafficking, gun running, gambling but they sure do brag about 'controlling' turf.   Mobs, according to films and books, do the stuff that the police generally do not do.  So what actions do Jason and Sonny do that they are able extort pressure upon the public and police and elected officials of Port Charles?  GH portrays these guys as heroes.  Maybe I am just missing something? 

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Between the nurses station and the hospital cafeteria there more drama then you could ever imagine.

It was way more entertaining  to watch.   Plus, there's decades worth of hospital prime-time shows to plagiarize from.  (i'm not judging but) - how much can the audience relate to Sonny or Jason or Franco?  Whereas if you tune in to a hospital drama - the audience has a much better chance to relate to whatever crisis a nurse/doctor/patient is going through.  There's just nothing appealing about Maurice Bernard or Sonny that appeals to me.  At least if MB was playing the role of a doctor, it would make it easier for me to cut him some slack for the marked degradation of his acting chops.  YMMV.

Edited January 27, 2018 by sunnyface
Sonny

[WendyCR72]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

THIS! And just as an example, I was taken to the ER a couple weeks ago

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I started hemorrhaging

and I was seen by an ER doctor, a couple of nurses, then a couple more doctors asking me questions to make sure I was lucid, and then the OBGYN surgeon came, before it was determined I had to have surgery. So being so close to what happened and watching yesterday just made me ???

But then again, this show isn’t what it used to be when it was actually good.

Wow, hope you're recovering well, @GHScorpiosRule.

[ulkis]

From someone at a KSt/LW/FH event:

https://twitter.com/Zaggy_Stardust/status/957337346906710016

"Mo doesn’t like to rehearse. Shocking."

Edited January 27, 2018 by ulkis

[WendyCR72]

6 minutes ago, ulkis said:

From someone at a KSt/LW/FH event:

https://twitter.com/Zaggy_Stardust/status/957337346906710016

"Mo doesn’t like to rehearse. Shocking."

Shocking, indeed. Not. No wonder he acts like he can't recall his lines (can't imagine the behavior has changed since I quit, so...). It's because he really can't.

[paisley]

1). byanose- I thought about David Hamilton too.

2). I like Nathan . Finn. and Drew.

3). Faison is so entertaining. He should've snapped Lulu's neck.

4). Genie got screwed.

5). I hate most of the characters.

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Wow, hope you're recovering well, @GHScorpiosRule.

I am much better now, thanks. 

[rur]

4 hours ago, ulkis said:

"Mo doesn’t like to rehearse. Shocking."

Well, that explains the "duh" face he's been wearing more and more the last few days. I was seriously beginning to wonder if he was having trouble with his meds.

I guess the environment on the set must not be too great -- if no one tells him that mumbling his lines, rubbing his jaw, looking vacantly into space and whispering a third to a half of his lines doesn't help his characterization of someone who's supposed to be a formidable force in the mob. 

[statsgirl]

I'm glad you're better now @GHScorpiosRule.

Not only is no one telling Mo his "acting" isn't that great, he's getting one of the highest salaries on the show if not the highest. Of course he's not going to do anything different.

11 hours ago, Perkie said:

 Lucas is a trauma/ER doctor, so it makes sense for him to be there.  Unless Nathan's injuries are neurological, there would be no reason for Griffin to be called in.  But yeah, GH does whatever it wants

Isn't Bensch an ER doctor?  Given the amount of guns and falls down stairs, it would be good for if either Kiki or TJ did an ER residency. When they're residents next week.

Edited January 28, 2018 by statsgirl

[dubbel zout]

Who's Dr. Bensch? /s

What was the point of that? Did JdP need enough work to keep his health insurance? I have no problem with that (seriously), but then don't create this whole story for him only to drop it. Shouldn't he be the one greasing the wheels for Lauren to get into med school, not Griffin?

Ugh, this fakakta show.

[nilyank]

It seems as if Dr Bensch has been fazed out.

Griff gets to be involved with helping Kiki charter the way into med school.

And Finn gets to be listening board to Alexis who tries to stay away from Julian.

That doesn't mean Bensch can't be brought back; it just means that the show will give story bits to existing contract characters who don't really have much of story going on for themselves.

[dubbel zout]

If JdP was there as some sort of personal favor, they should have made him the med school administrator, or some position that can come and go without having glaring story holes.

Though maybe JdP finished his initial stint and thought, "This place is a dysfunctional mess and I'm done with it. I'll get my health care through Kassie." I'd respect that.

[statsgirl]

They had to have Griffin be the one to mentor Kikir because that's the way to push the "Ava is jealous" storyline that we're all enjoying so much.  And of course they're going to use ME to stall Alexis going back to Julian. Why pay JdP when you can farm his role out to your pet actor?

I'm going to miss Bensch.  Not what he was, but the evil criminal mastermind he could have been.

[LexieLily]

If Laura's run for mayor meant that she had to give up her board seat why did Valentin want it? It's not a good look for a show called General HOSPITAL for, out of all the characters, Valentin wants the position. The unrepentant murderer that murdered Laura's son, shot her husband, and stole her grandchild, and has never once apologized or shown remorse to Laura or Lulu for any of those things.

[TeeVee329]

10 hours ago, LexieLily said:

It's not a good look for a show called General HOSPITAL for, out of all the characters, Valentin wants the position. The unrepentant murderer that murdered Laura's son, shot her husband, and stole her grandchild, and has never once apologized or shown remorse to Laura or Lulu for any of those things.

...this is a show where the primary, heroic leads are a mobster, his mob moll wife, and a hitman.

[sue450]

   the way Frank got rid of Genie Francis  (Laura)  is a disgrace.......without Laura they would not have hired Tony to play Luke and GH would have gone off the air 40 years ago......Frank did this what else will he pull..no respect for  someone who saved the show and no respect for the fans.....Genies character finally had a good storline running for mayor and they obviously had to do a quick rewrite....bad timing..women are supposed to be treated better in the industry.

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[LexieLily]

38 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

...this is a show where the primary, heroic leads are a mobster, his mob moll wife, and a hitman.

And yet I expect even one storyline to be better. I don't know why.

[sunnyface]

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let your voices be heard...ABC Daytime Rebecca Campbell 818-460-6155

Thanks for posting that contact information.  First number I called was Rebecca Campbell - and she is no longer in that position.

 

[TeeVee329]

Lucas not only disappearing from Nathan's hospital bedside today, but the show acting like he was never there in the first place, especially given his connection to Maxie, is some bullshit.

Edited January 29, 2018 by TeeVee329

[statsgirl]

This show .... when Dante delivers the news that Nathan has been shot, the camera zooms in on Lulu and then cuts to Nina and Valentin. Heaven forbid we get a reaction show of Nathan's mother to the news.

Carly asks Peter August why he's going up to the Crimson offices after the shooting.  Because he's a newsman, you idiot.  Sonny asks why Faison would go to the Crimson offices.  Because he wants to use Maxie to draw Nathan out.  (At least Carly figured that out.)   Dante blames Peter August for Nathan getting shot instead of Lulu. These people are so stupid, how are they still walking around? I know we're supposed to think that Sonny is so smart he has telepathic powers and that Dante can't bear to blame Lulu but really.  At least Carly remembered that Lucas was there to save Nathan, while Griffin and Amy (!) work on Nathan.

Other questions:  Why is Bobbie working at night  I thought she was some sort of trainer.  Why is it okay for Amy to work on Nathan but not Obrecht?  Why did Peter August just happen to be wearing a vest? And why didn't his shirt have a whole in it from the bullet?

KSt and Kathleen Gati were great today.  (And that flourish of Obrecht's as she walked out of the tunnel was great.)  MSt not so much. I also liked that Finn warned Anna to have a witness.

[TeeVee329]

1 minute ago, statsgirl said:

Other questions:  Why is Bobbie working at night  I thought she was some sort of trainer.

Bobbie wasn't working, she was at the MetroCourt with Carly and Lucas when this all happened and she came along to support Maxie as a family friend.

That it took her so long to think to call Mac and Felicia - so long that Nina et. al managed to make it there from Spoon Island - is a bit ridic.

[statsgirl]

Someone (Sonny?) asked Carly why Bobbie is there at the hospital and Carly said she was working.  But you're right, she was with Carly and Lucas when it happened.

I thought Bobbie told the organ donation guy that she was family and I was trying to figure out how that work. But maybe she said she was a family friend.

[Bringonthedrama]

KSt did a good job in the scene of being asked about making decisions/is your husband an organ donor.  I will accept that she is not remembering in this moment what Obrecht did to Robin, to be kind/comfort her because a) that is what Nathan would ask of her  and  b) Maxie is trying to convince herself that Nathan is going to be fine.  

Some  in the audience will be glad to see that moment of Lulu acknowledging that Nathan's life is on the line, and Maxie is traumatized, because she's so 'determined' in being a journalist.

Of course the positions are reversed, and now Jason has the power over semi-conscious, wounded Faison. 

I'm just rolling my eyes at S&C. You two really are not that bright.

[sue450]

1 hour ago, sunnyface said:

Thanks for posting that contact information.  First number I called was Rebecca Campbell - and she is no longer in that position.

 

I called and a live person answered..they said the name so fast I didn't catch it but the phone number is gtood

[TeeVee329]

1 minute ago, statsgirl said:

I thought Bobbie told the organ donation guy that she was family and I was trying to figure out how that work. But maybe she said she was a family friend.

Well Bobbie was married to Maxie's uncle Tony so, yeah, I guess she is family.

As is Lucas, who apparently...wandered off to get coffee, what the actual hell?!?!

[Bringonthedrama]

11 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

 Heaven forbid we get a reaction show of Nathan's mother to the news.

She didn't raise Nathan; they've only known each other for a few years and he only sees her here and there. Drew and Monica spend more time together than Obrecht and Nathan do.  I don't feel any more sorry for Obrecht right now than I did for Jason during the "Jake got hit by a car...Jake is brain dead" storyline.  Obrecht's spent many years worshiping a and obsessing over the 'magnificence" of Faison.... well, you reap what you sew lady.

[ulkis]

17 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Dante blames Peter August for Nathan getting shot instead of Lulu. These people are so stupid, how are they still walking around? I know we're supposed to think that Sonny is so smart he has telepathic powers and that Dante can't bear to blame Lulu but really.

He'll probably blame Lulu later. And not that it doesn't make Lulu seem horrendously stupid either way, but she would probably have never thought up the Faison angle on her own if Peter hadn't brought it up in the first place.

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Why is it okay for Amy to work on Nathan but not Obrecht?

Amy is on staff, Obrecht isn't. She got canned for framing Dr. Easton.

Why did Peter August just happen to be wearing a vest?

He was probably planning on some kind of confrontation with Faison. I don't know why he burned it. An easy enough cover story would be to say he was afraid Faison would be after him because of the article. Being in Port Charles in and of itself is reason enough to have a bullet proof vest on.

[Linny]

It's so maddening that Sonny and Carly (those paragons of mental acuity) are on the brink of making the Peter/Henrik connection, Jason is going to get to interrogate Faison, the cops are largely ineffectual, Anna's reduced to a backseat role, and one of the few truly nice guys on this show is clinging to his life by a thread. 

Kirsten Storms did a very nice job today. It's the first time since she's returned to the show that she's been given material to show she is a more than capable actress. Maxie was distraught but restrained, determinedly optimistic without ignoring the reality of the situation, and I find that kind of subtlety is much more effective than sobbing or screaming. 

[statsgirl]

10 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

She didn't raise Nathan; they've only known each other for a few years and he only sees her here and there. Drew and Monica spend more time together than Obrecht and Nathan do.  I don't feel any more sorry for Obrecht right now than I did for Jason during the "Jake got hit by a car...Jake is brain dead" storyline.  Obrecht's spent many years worshiping a and obsessing over the 'magnificence" of Faison.... well, you reap what you sew lady.

Obrecht didn't raise Nathan but that's because she wanted to protect him from Faison.  She's been as involved with him as the show allowed time for their scenes, which isn't much, and she was the one organizing a baby shower for Maxie. She's spent several episodes being terrified that now Faison has Nathan in his sights.

I think she deserved a reaction shot more than Lulu Falconeri Girl Reporter and Valentine and Nina.

I just know they're going to bring Valentine into the Faison story too.  Ugh.

[LexieLily]

4 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I think she deserved a reaction shot more than Lulu Falconeri Girl Reporter and Valentine and Nina.

I just know they're going to bring Valentine into the Faison story too.  Ugh.

Nina I can understand why she was there, she is Nathan's cousin and Maxie's friend/employer (though she could dial down the righteous indignation just a tad, remember when YOU got a job handed to you that you were in no way qualified for?), but why was Valentin there? Nathan doesn't care for him and neither does Maxie.

[ulkis]

It hits my second hand embarassment button a bit that the show gave these two great actors a wooden studmuffin for a son. It seems like the show was a bit embarassed too given Nathan didn't exchange a line of dialogue with Faison.

Edited February 4, 2018 by ulkis

[GHScorpiosRule]

44 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Why is it okay for Amy to work on Nathan but not Obrecht? 

Because Obrecht is his mother. I'm pretty sure relatives aren't allowed to operate/treat their husbands/wives/parents/children.  Goes back to that riddle where a father and son were in an accident and the surgeon says they can't operate, because he is their child. And I recall so many kept coming up with different guesses, and it never occurred to anyone the surgeon was the boy's mother. Even The Cosby Show put the riddle to Cliff, who FAILED it abysmally.

17 minutes ago, ulkis said:

 

Amy is on staff, Obrecht isn't. She got canned for framing Dr. Easton.

 

Then there's this.

[Bringonthedrama]

11 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I think she deserved a reaction shot more than Lulu Falconeri Girl Reporter and Valentine and Nina.

 

I have no use for the current state of Lulu or the b.s. reporter storyline, but Lulu played a part in  this mess, Lulu's parents have decades of history with Faison, Lulu is the bff of Nathan's wife and her husband Dante is also Nathan's partner and best friend.  I also have no use for Nina, but we have seen that Nathan and Nina still consider themselves to be siblings and love each other as such.  I  get that Valentin is there to support Nina and will most likely end up having something to do with this "Faison's son" crap, but I agree with you he didn't deserve a reaction shot. 

[Aurora2]

31 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

She didn't raise Nathan; they've only known each other for a few years and he only sees her here and there. Drew and Monica spend more time together than Obrecht and Nathan do.  I don't feel any more sorry for Obrecht right now than I did for Jason during the "Jake got hit by a car...Jake is brain dead" storyline.  Obrecht's spent many years worshiping a and obsessing over the 'magnificence" of Faison.... well, you reap what you sew lady.

I do feel for Obrecht.  For all her sins and crimes, she has clearly and emotionally shown how much her son Nathan means to her. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 minutes ago, Aurora2 said:

I do feel for Obrecht.  For all her sins and crimes, she has clearly and emotionally shown how much her son Nathan means to her. 

I don't. And I don't give any figgedity or bluedilly fucks about how much Nathan means to her. I'm sure she knew how much Robin meant/means to Anna and Robert. So she can Fuck Off.

Why no, I'm not still bitter, nor do I harbor any residual anger that Obrecht got away with and never had to pay for what she did to Robin.