BW Manilowe September 19, 2015 Share September 19, 2015 A murder leads Five-0 to investigate a centuries-old Oahu palace raid involving pirates, buried treasure and a killer who is using a stolen painting as a map. Also, the morning after their wedding, Kono and Adam are threatened and tortured by Gabriel, and Danny shows concern for McGarrett regarding Catherine's return to the island. Original Airdate: September 25, 2015 SOURCE: http://cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/shows/hawaii-five-0/releases/view?id=43372 Link to comment
TVForever September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 (edited) Jeez Louise, have Kono and Adam had ONE MOMENT in their relationship when they weren't on the run, hiding out, under threat, being kidnapped, tortured, or shot at? When the heck does it end??? Edited September 26, 2015 by TVForever 7 Link to comment
janeta September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 How many times has he been shot now? 1 Link to comment
benteen September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 (edited) Jeez Louise, have Kono and Adam had ONE MOMENT in their relationship when they weren't on the run, hiding out, under threat, being kidnapped, tortured, or shot at? When the heck does it end??? I'm just amazed he managed to make it out of this alive. I figured he'd end up like Chin's wife. Edited September 26, 2015 by benteen 1 Link to comment
dwmarch September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 The Kono and Adam plot advances because Kono has forgotten how to use a phone. She could have called for help at the beginning rather than wandering into a taser and she could have called the bank at the end rather than rushing there in a sports car. Gabriel wants to steal money that is supposed to be going to the Yakuza. Somehow he assumes that the Yakuza's retaliation will only be against Adam for letting himself be stolen from. Jerry continues to be a fun addition to the team. I thought it was interesting that Danno suggested simply shooting a suspect. Danno was originally the by-the-book cop who actually tried to follow the rules while McGarrett looked for new rules to break. Now we solve our problems by shooting suspects and joking about it. 5 Link to comment
benteen September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 I've had it with Gabriel. Just kill the annoying fucker already! This show just loves brutal torturing its main characters. 2 Link to comment
Raja September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 The Kono and Adam plot advances because Kono has forgotten how to use a phone. She could have called for help at the beginning rather than wandering into a taser and she could have called the bank at the end rather than rushing there in a sports car. Gabriel wants to steal money that is supposed to be going to the Yakuza. Somehow he assumes that the Yakuza's retaliation will only be against Adam for letting himself be stolen from. Jerry continues to be a fun addition to the team. I thought it was interesting that Danno suggested simply shooting a suspect. Danno was originally the by-the-book cop who actually tried to follow the rules while McGarrett looked for new rules to break. Now we solve our problems by shooting suspects and joking about it. The Kono parts were particularly bad tactically, sure her loved one was endangered but a Ferrari doesn't have the built in ability to call for help in this day and age?. But then Captain Grover once commented on 5-0's tendency to go in alone and almost all of her experience has been with 5-0 Gabriel is a fully reincarnated Wo Fat. He is supposed to be an escaped con living on a small island and he doesn't have the money yet but is able to recruit mooks including a specialist torturer on spec I guess. And now the Yakuza has to kill the couple because, because?....and not write it off when they lose soldiers to Hawaii's legal system instead of having them go after the money. Speculation time wasn't Mama McGarrett in with the Yakuza as one of her CIA asset's, Would make for an nontraditional wedding present. What I don't like about Jerry is that when he is around we don't get much from Kamekona. I didn't take Detective Williams seriously I think he was teasing Commander McGarrett Link to comment
betsyboo September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 I agree - like the addition of Jerry. Just enough crazy to be fun. Plus that means less shrimp talk from Kamekona. While understanding that they live in the rest of the world's idea of the perfect honeymoon spot, if Adam and Kono just went away for their honeymoon, they could have avoided all this! I'm still flummoxed at Gabriel's pitch in the finale - dude, no matter how much $ you offer Chin, he's NEVER going to agree. You killed his father!!! hmmmm. Catherine. I did like that she reassured Steve that she'd still be there when he got home. I agree, too, that Danny shouldn't have blabbed his news. I think, tho, it wasn't malicious or to invoke teasing (well, more than normal) but because he was so genuinely so excited for him. Link to comment
Clanstarling September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 (edited) How many times has he been shot now? The man should wear designer Kevlar shirts - that's how many. What I didn't like was him spilling to the team about Steve proposing. That wasn't his place. When someone shares something private with you like that, you don't just go around blabbing it. Not only that, but everyone congratulating him as if Katherine had accepted his proposal - which is no slam dunk, given their recent past. Not to mention, no one seems to be allowed to be happy for long on this show. Gabriel is a fully reincarnated Wo Fat. He is supposed to be an escaped con living on a small island and he doesn't have the money yet but is able to recruit mooks including a specialist torturer on spec I guess. He's more like a mini-Wo Fat - Wo Fat was more sly and intelligent, imo. Gabriel is a brute force kind of guy. Wo Fat certainly didn't shy away from violence, but he was more calculating and seemed to think things through (like the fact that the Yakuza would go after their money - after killing Adam and Kono.) Edited September 26, 2015 by clanstarling 4 Link to comment
Artsda September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 The pirates scene at the start confused me and made me think I was watching the right show. lol Poor Kono, worst honeymoon ever. After the wedding I did wonder what a couple who live in Hawaii do for a honeymoon, which later realized they stay in Hawaii. LOL Adam's shot again, at least he isn't dead. I guess in ICU is a way to work around Ian's schedule. 2 Link to comment
misstwpherecool September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 (edited) The pirates scene at the start confused me and made me think I was watching the right show. lol Poor Kono, worst honeymoon ever. After the wedding I did wonder what a couple who live in Hawaii do for a honeymoon, which later realized they stay in Hawaii. LOL Adam's shot again, at least he isn't dead. I guess in ICU is a way to work around Ian's schedule. I think they showed the pirate scene because that lost treaure might be a running theme this season. Also I wanted to know more about the ruthless women super villian who went one on one with ex Navy Seal-lol. And you knew tranquil mush honeymoon scene wasn't going to end well-nobody wants to endure happy. And I love how all these shows have civilians hiking in woods in civilain attire/the wrong attire. And ummm, didn't all this take place with in a day of a nuclear bomb going off even thought miles out to sea? I doubt it would've been business as usual after a foiled nuke attack. Edited September 26, 2015 by misstwpherecool 2 Link to comment
Trey September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 I liked the pirate treasure story line but not the Kono/Adam story. I am really tired of the main characters being the ones in danger. I agree, the torture was just too much. And one lesson I learned from this episode: don't bring a crowbar to a gun fight. 2 Link to comment
LizDC September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 Minimal Catherine - yay. Even better would have been no Catherine. I hope something happens that thwarts Stevie's stupid proposal plans. 2 Link to comment
Trey September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 Minimal Catherine - yay. Even better would have been no Catherine. I hope something happens that thwarts Stevie's stupid proposal plans. Why is she even back? Just to break Steve's heart and move on? 1 Link to comment
possibilities September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 I just wish people in TV would figure out who's at the door before opening it. 7 Link to comment
giovannif7 September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 (edited) Oh, Danny - knowing how you feel about Steve, I'm sure it's beyond your comprehension that anyone he proposes to wouldn't immediately say yes. That doesn't mean you should be announcing to the team that Steve is getting married when he hasn't actually popped the question yet. Keep in mind the track record for relationships involving members of your group. Edited September 26, 2015 by giovannif7 2 Link to comment
Kel Varnsen September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 (edited) The pirate story bugged me because how could a pretty major thing that happened in the 1880's be considered folklore? They had newspapers back then so pirates pillaging the Hawaiian palace should be pretty easy to confirm or not. It's not like this is a legend from 1000's of years ago. Also how could the wedding reception have been an epic night for Steve if they passed out on top of the bed with their clothes on? Edited September 27, 2015 by Kel Varnsen 3 Link to comment
fishcakes September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 (edited) The pirate story bugged me because how could a pretty major thing that happened in the 1880's be considered folklore? They had newspapers back then so pirates pillaging the Hawaiian palace should be pretty easy to confirm or not. It's not like this is a legend from 1000's of years ago. That, and also, if the buried treasure was just some candlesticks and silverware that the fake pirate stole from the palace when he worked there in the 1940s, then how did he rig the frame on the painting stolen in 1884 to lead to the house where he buried the chest? Presumably the painting had been recovered by then and was hanging in a museum, but it's not like just anyone, palace employee or not, can just go in there and change the frame without anyone knowing. Or is the point that there was no piracy in 1884, and that guy made the whole thing up? Confusion, I has it. I felt so old when Jerry was explaining Beta vs. VHS to the 5-0 team because although I had VHS, Beta was still widely in use when I bought my first VCR. For at least a couple of years, the store where I rented movies had everything in both formats. Hearing it explained as a weird historical factoid killed me a little. Edited September 27, 2015 by fishcakes 6 Link to comment
Kel Varnsen September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 Also if someone were to get robbed like Adam was is there really no kind of insurance or protection? I mean if someone breaks into my house and steals money I have insurance. If someone robs my bank or hacks their servers and takes my money I am protected. If my bank goes out of business I am protected. Hell if I pay money from my bank account to the wrong bill, for a fee my bank will reverse that transaction. So with that being the case, and Adam being a super rich high profile client of the bank, would his money really be gone? Link to comment
Raja September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 Also if someone were to get robbed like Adam was is there really no kind of insurance or protection? I mean if someone breaks into my house and steals money I have insurance. If someone robs my bank or hacks their servers and takes my money I am protected. If my bank goes out of business I am protected. Hell if I pay money from my bank account to the wrong bill, for a fee my bank will reverse that transaction. So with that being the case, and Adam being a super rich high profile client of the bank, would his money really be gone? Presumably it is from the Yakuza or laundered for them thus you don't want Treasury Agents taking notice, stealing from a thief sort of deal. But then how did our favorite duo carry all that cash into Colombia seasons back? Link to comment
K-9 September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 Adam had given his bank specific directions only to wire with his physical presence at the branch. This account warning should pop-up when they pull up his account. But... bank employee doesn't think anything is foul when Adam has beat-up face needing to immediately wire a humungous amount of money? 4 Link to comment
possibilities September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 We're not supposed to think too much when watching this show. I'm also pretty sure the bank didn't just hand over all that money in cash. It's doubtful they'd have enough on hand on such short notice, or hand it over without marking it or rigging it with exploding ink or whatever, if they did-- too suspicious. So either there's a check they can stop, or a wire transfer they can reverse. But we needed to have a lot of bloodshed and a cliffhanger of doom, probably so Kono and Adam can go on the run again (and probably skip some episodes because the actors want to do other things) and later Steve can go on another rogue mission of vengeance, or something like that. 1 Link to comment
betsyboo September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 We're not supposed to think too much when watching this show. I'm also pretty sure the bank didn't just hand over all that money in cash. It's doubtful they'd have enough on hand on such short notice, or hand it over without marking it or rigging it with exploding ink or whatever, if they did-- too suspicious. So either there's a check they can stop, or a wire transfer they can reverse. But we needed to have a lot of bloodshed and a cliffhanger of doom, probably so Kono and Adam can go on the run again (and probably skip some episodes because the actors want to do other things) and later Steve can go on another rogue mission of vengeance, or something like that. Rogue Mission of Vengeance is my new band name. 3 Link to comment
MissLucas September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 I really loved the score ripping off Hans Zimmer in the cold open. They lost me soon afterwards. The raid took place 1884 yet we are supposed to think milk-eye pirate is still around 1975 to give interviews? Anyhow I stopped watching when the doorbell on the Kono/Noshimuri household rang. I was unspoiled but I could tell what was going to happen anyway. Link to comment
jaytee1812 September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 This wasn't their best season opener, and for the love of God will someone please kill Gabriel. He's just boring now. So during the wedding scenes I was distracted by how young Kono looked, and I thought she looked a lot young than Adam, so I IMDb'd both of them. Grace Park at 41 is 4 years older than Ian Anthony Dale. Seriously? She barely looks in her mid 20s, there must be a painting ageing in her attic. 2 Link to comment
torqy September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 When the doorbell rang the first time, I turned to Mrs. Torqy and yelled "Land Shark!" 8 Link to comment
KLovestoShop September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 Why is it that they have to have one big bad guy every couple of seasons? Wo Fat and now the asshat Gabriel? It's getting boring. Why not just do a basic procedural and not continuous fights against one bad guy? We just want to see the beautiful Hawaii scenery and watch a well acted show. 2 Link to comment
ChelseaNH September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 Dead Catherine, probably by Gabriel, because maybe it's not a coincidence Gabriel has become a mastermind criminal at the very same time Catherine returns I started mentally laying odds that Catherine would get killed just as Steve lines up all his proposal arrangements. Just in time for sweeps! Which is a pity, because we'd miss out on the comic relief of Steve vs wedding planner. It was cool seeing Tia Carrere, though. Link to comment
Traveller519 September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 The show has really embraced the ridiculous, and it's fun, if silly. OF COURSE Adam and Kono are tortured the morning after their wedding. There's no way this Steve and Catherine scenario plays out well either. Link to comment
HurricaneVal September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 I absolutely squeeed during the dancing scene at the reception when they were all switching partners, and they actually left in the Steve/Danny pairing we saw in the promo photos we all thought were just joking teases. Link to comment
fishcakes September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 I don't get why Adam and Kono would be killed by the yakuza boss for Gabriel stealing the money. I thought this was Adam's money that he was surrendering to the boss in order to buy his way out of the business. At worst, wouldn't Adam just be forced to continue the illegal side of his business? Even if the boss considers that his money now because it was promised to him, killing Adam and Kono gets him nothing. It seems more logical that the boss would go after Gabriel, get the money back from him, kill him, and then tell Adam he wasn't releasing him from the business since he now owes him for taking care of Gabriel. 6 Link to comment
Kel Varnsen September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 Oooooh. I see what you're doing. You're trying to apply logic and common sense. Yeah, Hawaii 5-0 doesn't believe in that stuff. Logic? This episode took place just a day or two after Steve and Danno detonated a nuke off the coast of Honolulu, and they weren't spending the time debriefing ever federal agency that exists. Link to comment
jhlipton September 29, 2015 Share September 29, 2015 Agreed that I couldn't believe Kono couldn't call the bank or SOMEONE while she was on her way to the bank. Seriously. She could have avoided a shootout. This is a standard thing in police shows -- only the stars can react to crimes. Not one can call ahead to have police (or security) do the needful. What I don't like about Jerry is that when he is around we don't get much from Kamekona. Minimal Catherine - yay. Even better would have been no Catherine. I hope something happens that thwarts Stevie's stupid proposal plans. Jorge Garcia is a fine actor and I wish him all the best, but I would much much much rather see Michelle Borst, thankyuverymuch. H5-0 seems to have a "no attractive women" clause. 2 Link to comment
jhlipton September 29, 2015 Share September 29, 2015 This seems to sometimes be a team of people who forget they're part of a team and go racing to places without notifying anyone. "Sometimes"??????? It is to laugh -- ha ha!!! 1 Link to comment
Clanstarling September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 (edited) Adam had given his bank specific directions only to wire with his physical presence at the branch. This account warning should pop-up when they pull up his account. But... bank employee doesn't think anything is foul when Adam has beat-up face needing to immediately wire a humungous amount of money? I thought, for a minute, that Adam lied to Gabriel about the meaning of his physical presence at the bank. That in fact, if he came to the bank in person with someone else, that in and of itself was an alert and that they'd proceed, but do some kind of handwavey bank magic with the wire transfer. Since Adam was still in surgery (right?), maybe that is true and Kono doesn't know about the failsafe. At least, that's the way I'd write it. Edited September 30, 2015 by clanstarling Link to comment
benteen October 2, 2015 Share October 2, 2015 It doesn't help either that Gabriel is just a jumped-up two-bit thug. Link to comment
tomatoflyer October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 Ugh! I hate the romance! I watch this show for action, Hawaii, and friendship. Please go away Catherine :( 1 Link to comment
ganesh October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 Gabriel wants to steal money that is supposed to be going to the Yakuza. Somehow he assumes that the Yakuza's retaliation will only be against Adam for letting himself be stolen from. I assume that Gabriel thinks he can use the money to disappear, fake his death, new identity, etc. Still, it's not like the Yakuza has tremendous resources at their disposal. I was screaming, when COP Kono just rushes into the living room, without, you know, being careful, given how literally every other day she and Adam have been in mortal danger. I would think she'd have ready access to a gun as well. Maybe run into the garage and she keeps one there, taped under the workbench. I was kind of disappointed because Kono's shown to be capable. Link to comment
Raja October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 I was screaming, when COP Kono just rushes into the living room, without, you know, being careful, given how literally every other day she and Adam have been in mortal danger. I would think she'd have ready access to a gun as well. Maybe run into the garage and she keeps one there, taped under the workbench. I was kind of disappointed because Kono's shown to be capable. There are two ways cops are portrayed special forces soldiers on alert who have weapons stashed in every room. Or the cop who unloads and puts his only weapon in the safe and then joins the family for dinner. Link to comment
ganesh October 4, 2015 Share October 4, 2015 She's a different case entirely given her history with Adam though. Seeing him on the ground and then running right smack into the tazer? Please. Link to comment
blackwing October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 The plot revolved around some supposed treasure taken from one of the last kings of Hawaii, King Kalakaua, who was a real person. I looked him up on Wikipedia and wow, kudos to the casting and costume and wardrobe people, they got the look done very well. It struck me that this is Kono's last name. Have they ever said if she's supposed to be related to this king? Or is it a more common name in Hawaii than I thought? Link to comment
BW Manilowe October 5, 2015 Author Share October 5, 2015 The plot revolved around some supposed treasure taken from one of the last kings of Hawaii, King Kalakaua, who was a real person. I looked him up on Wikipedia and wow, kudos to the casting and costume and wardrobe people, they got the look done very well. It struck me that this is Kono's last name. Have they ever said if she's supposed to be related to this king? Or is it a more common name in Hawaii than I thought? They've never said if Kono's (or Chin, for that matter, since he's Kono's Cousin in this version of the show) any relation to King Kalakaua. Nor have they made any references when Kalakaua Avenue (which I think is the Honolulu equivalent of, like, Beverly Hills' Rodeo Drive & Fifth Avenue in New York City) is mentioned. Either they haven't decided; she isn't supposed to be a relative & we're just supposed to take it for granted she isn't; or they're trying to be respectful of Hawaiian history by not making a "thing" of the connection between the names & hoping nobody will wonder about it. And... Kalakaua was also the original (male) Kono's last name, in the Jack Lord version--admittedly, I never saw every ep of that version, but I don't think the original Kono was ever said to have been related to King Kalakaua either. 1 Link to comment
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