Star Trek Beyond (2016)

[starri]

10 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

I just got back from the movie and I freaking loved it. I loved the visual style Lin used to navigate the space shots and, even the Enterprise shots, it gave a real feeling of alien/space/weightlessness. 

I don't often get to experience 3D movies because my husband is incredibly nearsighted and doesn't wear contacts, so the effect is lost on him and the surcharge isn't worth it.  One of the few bright spots in being away from him for the next 1-2 months is that I got to see it in IMAX.  The shots of Yorktown, especially that shot of the Enterprise docking was...holy moley.  Totally worth paying extra for.

It makes the teaser footage for Star Trek: Discovery even lamer.

I'd still rather have seen it in 2D if it meant we could have seen it together.

[Morrigan2575]

1 minute ago, starri said:

I don't often get to experience 3D movies because my husband is incredibly nearsighted and doesn't wear contacts, so the effect is lost on him and the surcharge isn't worth it.  One of the few bright spots in being away from him for the next 1-2 months is that I got to see it in IMAX.  The shots of Yorktown, especially that shot of the Enterprise docking was...holy moley.  Totally worth paying extra for.

It makes the teaser footage for Star Trek: Discovery even lamer.

I'd still rather have seen it in 2D if it meant we could have seen it together.

That reminds, me two things I loved that I forgot to mention.   I loved the look of Yorktown, it reminded me of The Citadel in Mass Effect, had that same grand/sweeping look to it.

Also I loved the ending with dividing the monologue between the main cast.  It reminded me of S3 of Babylon 5 and how they divided up the opening monologue 

[kirinan]

59 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

I absolutely loved the use of Sabotage it worked so damn well in the scene and is a fantastic song (IMO). I also have to give extra props to including Public Enemy in the film.

It's not my kind of song, but I LOVED the callback to the first film. That smile on Kirk's face when he heard it made me smile. And I completely agree with you about not being happy until Karl Urban's on screen 100% of the time. He just made this movie for me.

[benteen]

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Is anyone else thinking that Jaylah and Rey from The Force Awakens are basically fraternal twins? They both seem to have an inborn genius for engineering and building/fixing things, they both have familial abandonment issues, and both are extremely handy in a fight, armed with a big stick. I think it's a tribute to Daisy Ridley's and Sofia Boutella's charisma and on-screen presence that neither is as Mary-Sue-licious as she might be.

This might have to do with Simon Pegg.  JJ Abrams is close friends with him and said that Pegg was a great soundboard for him when he wrote The Force Awakens and gave him advice on the script.  Pegg co-wrote Beyond and there are definite similarities between Rey and Jaylah.  This isn't a criticism as I love both characters and think the two actresses' did great work with them.  Just an observation.

Edited July 24, 2016 by benteen

[Sandman]

Well, maybe now that JJ is the holder of ALL the nerd toys, something in this line is to be expected. I'm not complaining, either; I love both characters, too.

[MisterGlass]

I really enjoyed this.  I've heard the comment that it feels more like a TV episode plot than the past movies, and while true, that's part of what lets it be Star Trek.  I like JJ's previous two movies, but this one had more heart and was a true ensemble.  I stress the ensemble part because I think that was missing.  This gave everyone a chance to shine.  Uhura finally got to take someone down, show her communications skills, and her good ear for speech and language.  Sulu got to be a serious pilot and to show the steely resolve that goes well with his (prime universe and presumably future) captaincy.  Bones got to be Bones, and Karl Urban just nails the character.  I always liked Bones and Spock playing off each other, and I'm glad Simon Pegg seized the potential when writing the script.

Krall is a bit of a weak point.  About three quarters of the way through I started wondering if they were going to develop him, and right about then they started.  Idris Elba did a lot with a little, and I think without someone of his gravitas I don't think it would have worked at all.  Part of the problem is that they needed his reveal to occur late in the game, and there just wasn't time to develop that much empathy.  I think on a second viewing there may be hints to pick up.  (Regarding his logs, since some have said the audio was bad in their theaters -  his ship crashed and despite many distress signals no rescue ever reached them.  He lost all but two (three?) of his original crew, and they discovered that the alien ruins around them were from an advanced society that had a device to prolong life amongst other technology.  He gets increasingly angry and feels betrayed by the federation.)

It's interesting, but there were more active female characters in this than I can recall in recent Star Trek memory.  The initial alien that led them into the trap, Uhura, Jaylah, Commodore Paris, and the ensign that Kirk enlisted to hide the device.

Creature design and make-up were really interesting.  Good for them bringing in a new non-bipedal species, even if they were a part of a joke.  There were a couple places where I could see the strings, so to speak, of the CGI work, but on the whole I thought this was a great visual spectacle.  Did anyone else immediately go "facehugger!" about the ensign?

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Also: "Is that classical music?" Bahahahahahahahaha! No.

It was a cheap laugh but I liked it!  And that first trailer makes more sense now.

Looking forward to the next one.  Still very sad about Anton.

[ramble]

On July 23, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Lebanna said:

I just loved this so much. I've been a fan of Star Trek since I was six years old, and this is absolutely everything I hoped this movie could be.

This, this! I turned to my kid after it was over & said this is how I felt watching Star Trek when I was a kid. I enjoyed this movie so much, so much more than I expected to. The photo of the original cast got me far too teary-eyed, but I appreciated it. When I was a young child & watched Star Trek for the first time I fell in love with sci-fi. Today was a good reminder of why. 

[Morrigan2575]

7 hours ago, ramble said:

The photo of the original cast got me far too teary-eyed, but I appreciated it. When I was a young child & watched Star Trek for the first time I fell in love with sci-fi. Today was a good reminder of why. 

Yeah, i started to tear up at that too, it was a nice touch especially with the loss of Nimoy.

[benteen]

Speaking of music, when Kirk initially fights Krall, it looked like he was doing old-school Kirk rolls and even the music sounded like the old fight scenes on the original show.

[OakGoblinFly]

I saw it this weekend and I really enjoyed it; might be my favorite of the JJ Abrams era Star Trek movies.  Like others mentioned, it felt very much like the original television series and I really liked the cast breaking off into pairs; I felt that each had their own moment to shine - of course, Bones was the best (Karl Urban is perfect in the role).

 

I didn't have an issue with Krall; I thought he was a fine villain and he served the plot well; even though the alien make-up was gorgeous (especially Sonfia Boutella's Jaylah) I do wish Idris Elba's face  wasn't so covered up.

 

Visually, the movie was stunning - Yorktown was especially beautifully and I liked the clever way Sabotage was worked into the plot.  If future films maintain this tone, I will be a very happy fan. 

[Bruinsfan]

On 7/22/2016 at 5:40 PM, tanita said:

The next installment needs the Borg. The are already a faceless hive of drones and they don't need motivation or depth - maybe a few scenes with the hive queen, but she wouldn't need a butt-load of characterization. That way you can fully focus on the interpersonal relationships and the Federation , and not waste time on developing a villain only to leave it under-cooked. That has been the biggest problem from me in these new ST movies - all 3 villains were the weakest part of the movie. And given that this is AU cannon, why couldn't Kirk and co. meet the Borg now. IMO, they are still the best villain the ST universe ever had.

For me that honor goes to original recipe Khan, and seeing how Abrams screwed the pooch on that character I'm not keen on seeing what he might do with other awesome franchise villains. Let him create new antagonists, or if he must revisit existing characters pick the crappy ones no one cares that much about. Like, I doubt there are many people holding Janice Lester or the space hippies from "Way to Eden" sacred.

Oh God, we're totally going to get Nick Frost as Harry Mudd, aren't we?

[Sharpie66]

20 hours ago, kirinan said:

It's not my kind of song, but I LOVED the callback to the first film. That smile on Kirk's face when he heard it made me smile. And I completely agree with you about not being happy until Karl Urban's on screen 100% of the time. He just made this movie for me.

Yummmm, Karl Urban. I've had the hots for that man ever since I saw LotR: TTT (didn't hurt that he was playing Eomer, my favorite character from the books), and every thing I've seen him in since has just solidified my appreciation for him. I thought he just nailed McCoy in the 2009 film and also thought he was really underused in the second, so I was delighted to see the amount of face time he got here.

[Morrigan2575]

1 hour ago, Sharpie66 said:

Yummmm, Karl Urban. I've had the hots for that man ever since I saw LotR: TTT (didn't hurt that he was playing Eomer, my favorite character from the books), and every thing I've seen him in since has just solidified my appreciation for him. I thought he just nailed McCoy in the 2009 film and also thought he was really underused in the second, so I was delighted to see the amount of face time he got here.

First time i saw him was as Cupid on Xena: Warrior Princess...he's almost unrecognizable now

And yeah, he owns the Bones role. I remember how opposed I was to his casting...Eomer can't play Bones! This is going to suck!

I was so wrong.

Edited July 25, 2016 by Morrigan2575

[Enigma X]

6 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

First time i saw him was as Cupid on Xena: Warrior Princess...he's almost unrecognizable now

And yeah, he owns the Bones role. I remember how opposed I was to his casting...Eomer can't play Bones! This is going to suck!

I was so wrong.

I have always thought that Karl Urban and Viggo Mortensen were chameleons waffling between different looks--not always in a good way.

[FurryFury]

I actually liked this movie, which is REALLY surprising considering I'm totally not a fan of Trek (I've only seen Enterprise in full, the older ones felt too dated, plus ugh, rubber masks), including the first two movies. It wasn't balls-to-the-walls amazing, but the script was all-around solid, without anything that made me cringe. I especially liked how Kirk took a step back from his somewhat Marty Stu/Chick Magnet characterization in the first two movies to something a bit more well-rounded. And the new female character wasn't a love interest and even had something remotely approaching a personal arc! Wow! Character interaction was also pretty cool, especially Spock/McCoy. I never noticed that, but Karl Urban is a REALLY good actor. I was seriously impressed by him, and I hope to see him in something that utilizes his talent to the full (a TV show preferably, I'm not much of a movie-goer). Also: scenery porn and the space colony CGI-porn. Stunning.

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 I loved the look of Yorktown, it reminded me of The Citadel in Mass Effect, had that same grand/sweeping look to it.

I've recently played through the whole trilogy and lots of stuff reminded me of Mass Effect :) Which makes sense, considering how much it was inspired by Star Trek (and to a lesser extent, Firefly).

Edited July 26, 2016 by FurryFury

[kirinan]

7 hours ago, FurryFury said:

I never noticed that, but Karl Urban is a REALLY good actor. I was seriously impressed by him, and I hope to see him in something that utilizes his talent to the full (a TV show preferably, I'm not much of a movie-goer).

Almost Human, FurryFury. Now gone (sob!), but 13 episodes of Karl Urban hotness (and good acting, at least IMO) are available to be watched. And the show was excellent, too. I'm not usually a fan of sci-fi-future-cop-type shows, but I loved this one. The buddy chemistry between KU and his co-star Michael Ealy was wonderful. You can stream it free on  http://cwseed.com/ until August 1, according to the Facebook Almost Human page.

And to keep it on topic, I'm thrilled to death to see all the posts here and articles everywhere calling Bones the MVP of the movie. I've loved Dr. McCoy for 50 years--about time my favorite character got some Kirk-Spock-level love from the world! 

Edited July 26, 2016 by kirinan

[JessePinkman]

Karl Urban is definitely the highlight of this series, he's fantastic.

The look of Yorktown (I can't be the only Hamilfan that wanted to sing as soon as they heard that, can I?) the city in Guardians of the Galaxy and Tomorrowland are very pretty but virtually interchangeable.

The thing I really like about these movies is that you see every dime they spent on screen. Sometimes I watch big budget movies with their shitty CGI and just wonder where all the money went but not with this, it's just so damn pretty.

The scene where the Enterprise is literally torn apart is a marvel of direction, cinematography, and technology. So incredibly well done. I kind of wish it had come later in the movie, just to give us more time with the ship. I was really hoping that the new Enterprise would look more like the original series version, just as a nod but that's probably asking for too much.

BTW what happened to that scene from the first trailer with Kirk encountering some aliens and the Enterprise saving him and then the aliens drawing the Enterprise in dirt?

Edited July 27, 2016 by JessePinkman

[MissAlmond]

28 minutes ago, JessePinkman said:

BTW what happened to that scene from the first trailer with Kirk encountering some aliens and the Enterprise saving him and then the aliens drawing the Enterprise in dirt?

That's from Star Trek: Into Darkness, not Star Trek Beyond.

[JessePinkman]

34 minutes ago, MissAlmond said:

That's from Star Trek: Into Darkness, not Star Trek Beyond.

Geez, I'm losing it lol. Thanks!

[Bruinsfan]

I don't like the trend of tearing the Enterprise apart (or nearly so) in every movie. In the original series and movies it was as much a character as the ones played by the actors, and it was a major emotional beat when it was sacrificed in The Search for Spock.

[Unusual Suspect]

Enterprise is the new Worf.

I liked the movie. Great visuals, the characters all get to shine, some solid emotional beats. I love Yorktown. But I'll admit, sometimes got too dark or frantic to track the action, and Krall was underbaked as a villian. Though, really, that's just par for the course in Trek movies.

[Luckylyn]

52 minutes ago, Unusual Suspect said:

Enterprise is the new Worf.

I liked the movie. Great visuals, the characters all get to shine, some solid emotional beats. I love Yorktown. But I'll admit, sometimes got too dark or frantic to track the action, and Krall was underbaked as a villian. Though, really, that's just par for the course in Trek movies.

I had never heard of that trope before.  Really interesting.   The destruction of the Enterprise was brutal and made it crystal clear how scary the villains were.

[shrewd.buddha]

I thought it was a good popcorn movie - and even braved the opening weekend crowd to see it. (Though, it turns out the box office $$ was not exactly blockbuster numbers and may put future sequels at risk.)

And while it was fun, it was also easily forgettable. After a few days I realized there wasn't anything in the movie that caused me to ponder it further. I am glad they didn't go for a major character death - the 30-second death and resurrection of Kirk in the last movie was enough. 

The things that did stick with me were these : 

•  Destroying the Enterprise is just a regular thing now. I can't quite remember if it was destroyed in the first newTrek movie, but I think it was.
• It is said they are about three years into a five year mission - but the stop at the Yorktown space station and Sulu's interaction with his family made it seem as if he was home for dinner on a regular basis. 
• Maybe it is the result of Kirk jumping directly from Starfleet cadet to captain, but Kirk really seems detached from the crew and the ship. In the last two movies, Kirk has lost a lot of crew members - lots of bodies sucked into space - but he and his five best friends seem very unconcerned about the loss. Forget about losing hundreds(?) of people and your ship - let's celebrate your birthday!

Kirk appears to feel no burden of responsibility when it comes to being a captain - he just wants to swash-buckle his way through the galaxy. (Unlike Picard, who  came off as a leader respectful of his position.) 

I like the Star Trek universe and the sci-fi concepts, but I don't think it has to always be centered around the same six characters. I would be content if this was the end of a trilogy and the movies moved into a new direction from here. 

Edited July 27, 2016 by shrewd.buddha

[Luckylyn]

17 minutes ago, shrewd.buddha said:

I thought it was a good popcorn movie - and even braved the opening weekend crowd to see it. (Though, it turns out the box office $$ was not exactly blockbuster numbers and may put future sequels at risk.)

And while it was fun, it was also easily forgettable. After a few days I realized there wasn't anything in the movie that caused me to ponder it further. I am glad they didn't go for a major character death - the 30-second death and resurrection of Kirk in the last movie was enough. 

The things that did stick with me were these : 

•  Destroying the Enterprise is just a regular thing now. I can't quite remember if it was destroyed in the first newTrek movie, but I think it was.
• Maybe it is the result of Kirk jumping directly from Starfleet cadet to captain, but Kirk really seems detached from the crew and the ship. In the last two movies, Kirk has lost a lot of crew members - lots of bodies sucked into space - but he and his five best friends seem very unconcerned about the loss. Forget about losing hundreds(?) of people and your ship - let's celebrate your birthday!

Kirk appears to feel no burden of responsibility when it comes to being a captain - he just wants to swash-buckle his way through the galaxy. (Unlike Picard, who  came off as a leader respectful of his position.) 

I like the Star Trek universe and the sci-fi concepts, but I don't think it has to always be centered around the same six characters. I would be content if this was the end of a trilogy and the movies moved into a new direction from here. 

The world of Star Trek is so vast and there is really a lot of room to tell so many stories about different characters.  It might be interesting to tell another federation story about another starship or colony.  I love the characters but the movies don't have to be limited to just their stories.

[Sandman]

On 2016-07-24 at 9:59 PM, MisterGlass said:

Did anyone else immediately go "facehugger!" about the ensign?

Yup. In fact, I was unnerved enough by her creepy bone crown that part of mind immediately started coming up with bad puns as a defense mechanism: "That Ensign Syl sure has a lot on her mind!" (Is her name a shout-out to Species?)

[MisterGlass]

On 7/27/2016 at 1:05 PM, shrewd.buddha said:

Destroying the Enterprise is just a regular thing now. I can't quite remember if it was destroyed in the first newTrek movie, but I think it was.

As I recall, Star Trek III and Star Trek Generations saw the destruction of the Enterprise, original and NCC-1701D, though she was damaged in plenty of other incidents.  Star Trek IV saw the debut of NCC-1701A, and Star Trek First Contact brought in NCC-1701E.  NCC-1701B featured in a flashback of Star Trek Generations, where it sustained damage (on its maiden voyage).  The NCC-1701C is at the heart of Yesterday's Enterprise on TNG.

In this universe, this is the first destruction of the flagship, and since this is the third movie in this iteration that makes it a fair match to Star Trek III.  Did anyone catch if they flashed the -A designation at the end of Star Trek Beyond?

[johntfs]

They did indeed use the A designation.

 

One thing I found weird was the way that this movie effectively introduced Jaylah as Chekov's replacement even before Anton Yelchin died.  Granted that they could recast the part of Chekov, but I admit I'd like to see them go in the direction of Ensign Jaylah, perhaps with a funeral for Chekov, who died between movies doing something heroic or somesuch.

[Rick Kitchen]

Just so long as Chekov doesn't get a bug in his ear.

[Raja]

1 hour ago, johntfs said:

 

One thing I found weird was the way that this movie effectively introduced Jaylah as Chekov's replacement even before Anton Yelchin died.  Granted that they could recast the part of Chekov, but I admit I'd like to see them go in the direction of Ensign Jaylah, perhaps with a funeral for Chekov, who died between movies doing something heroic or somesuch.

I doubt they thinking were recasting Checov and adding gender balance assuming he was going to leave Enterprise and  XO a Reliant in a future movie since they already have done the Khan story. As an alien they may have been going the Worf, Ensign Ro or Seven of Nine route of a main non human to supplement Spock if the character was accepted

[johntfs]

2 hours ago, Raja said:

I doubt they thinking were recasting Checov and adding gender balance assuming he was going to leave Enterprise and  XO a Reliant in a future movie since they already have done the Khan story. As an alien they may have been going the Worf, Ensign Ro or Seven of Nine route of a main non human to supplement Spock if the character was accepted

I don't think they were even going that far.  I noticed that in each movie there's an important character outside the "main six" who acts as an ally.  In 2009, it was Pike.  It Darkness it was Alice Eve's weapons specialist.  In this movie it was Jaylah.  Figure the idea for the fourth movie would be somebody else.  Starfleet's a big organization and Jaylah would be somewhere else in it.  However, the main six have now become the main five, assuming no recasting.  Also, people seem to have reacted very well to Jaylah and the actress playing her.  By putting Jaylah in Chekov's vacant chair, they have an opportunity to increase gender balance, put in a different alien to contrast Spock and hammer home the concept that no, this really, really isn't the same Star Trek with younger faces.

[MisterGlass]

9 hours ago, Raja said:

assuming he was going to leave Enterprise and  XO a Reliant in a future movie since they already have done the Khan story

I would like to see that as Chekov's fate in this series.  An offscreen death would feel like red-shirting the character.

[starri]

I don't know if they introduced Jaylah with an intention of having her become one of the crew, but I'm almost sure she will be now.  They sadly have a hole in the crew, and like you said, everybody seems to have REALLY liked her.

And I really like the idea of it being more than Uhura and the Boys.

[johntfs]

10 hours ago, MisterGlass said:

I would like to see that as Chekov's fate in this series.  An offscreen death would feel like red-shirting the character.

Well, they can't really do an onscreen death because Anton Yelchin died offscreen.  I think it would be in somewhat bad taste for them to show some Reliant with Chekov supposedly on it getting blow up just so Chekov could die in the movie or something.  Just open with a solemn funeral for Chekov and mention his heroic death which ties into the current movie plot.  Let there be a formal good bye to a character (and actor) who was intrinsic to the old show and new movies.  Then let Ensign Jaylah sit in his chair and struggle with filling his seat.

[Morrigan2575]

It's a very difficult situation to handle. I'm absolutely opposed to recasting and I'm pretty sure JJ Abrams said they wouldn't recast.

That leaves 2 options kill the character  (off screen) or write him out of the story  (promotion/reassignment)

One allows the character to live on which helps fans since the character existed before Anton.  The other allows fans to mourn Anton but, also removes Chekov from the Universe, in all forms (not sure if they are writing books in this universe).

I'm more in favor of reassigning Chekov, this way the character lives on and Chekov as a character means more to me than Anton (no offense). 

Edited July 30, 2016 by Morrigan2575

[benteen]

JJ has already confirmed that they will not be recasting the role of Checkov.  They haven't said what the character's fate is but I think it would be distasteful for them to kill him off-screen.  I suspect they'll just say that he's serving on the Reliant now.

I hope the plan was to add Jaylah to the crew regardless of what happened.  I'd like to see her rejoin the crew, perhaps working security.

I saw the film again and really enjoyed it.  The crowd was packed but I noticed the audience for Star Trek still skews much older.

[johntfs]

4 hours ago, benteen said:

JJ has already confirmed that they will not be recasting the role of Checkov.  They haven't said what the character's fate is but I think it would be distasteful for them to kill him off-screen.  I suspect they'll just say that he's serving on the Reliant now.

I hope the plan was to add Jaylah to the crew regardless of what happened.  I'd like to see her rejoin the crew, perhaps working security.

I saw the film again and really enjoyed it.  The crowd was packed but I noticed the audience for Star Trek still skews much older.

I can't see security.  One thing they established about Jaylah was her intuitive grasp of technology.  One of the stand-out things about Chekov was his intuitive, creative grasp of technology.  That's why the way things played out in real life seem creepy-strange.  It's like Jaylah was purpose-written to take over Chekov's spot in the series. even though she couldn't have been.  Unless we want to entertain wakadoo theories that Anton Yelchin was murdered to make way for her... and I don't want to entertain such theories.

[Morrigan2575]

I don't remember if i read it here or IMDb but someone pointed out that the New Trek movies always introduce an additional character to help the crew but then isn't a main (or any) part of the follow-up movie.

Star Trek had Pike, Into Darkness had Carol Marcus and Beyond has Jaylah. Pike was killed off in Into Darkness, Carol Marcus wasn't even mentioned in Beyond, so it's entirely possible that the original plan was to send Jaylah off to the Academy and never see/hear from her again.

Now, given Anton's death and how popular the character seems to be, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jaylah back as an Ensign filling Chekov's spot while he's on the Reliant.

[BookWoman56]

I thought the first 5-10 minutes of this were incredibly clunky, and the acting in those scenes was just wooden. Fortunately, though, right after that everything seemed to fall into place and I was caught up in what was going on. Agree that Karl Urban earned an MVP designation; it's not that he was aping DeForest Kelley, but he totally sold it as a slightly younger version of Bones from TOS. Also liked the various pairings of characters once they were planet-side. The romantic pairings came across as very low-key, which was a relief. Simon Pegg and the other screenwriter did a reasonably good job with the script, without going overboard on the humor, and I liked that there was a good balance of screen time for the major characters. However, I did not think Krall's motivation for being a villain was convincing/developed enough. As others have noted, it did seem a bit odd that Kirk and friends seemed so unaffected by the deaths of all the crew members who got sucked out into space; I've never been a huge fan of TOS Kirk but one of his best qualities was that he deeply felt it when a crew member under his command died. Finally, it was very hard to watch Anton on screen without tearing up. I'm in the camp that would rather see Chekov's character written out as transferring to another ship rather than dying off-screen, and Jaylah would be fine as a replacement character.

[Raja]

3 hours ago, BookWoman56 said:

. As others have noted, it did seem a bit odd that Kirk and friends seemed so unaffected by the deaths of all the crew members who got sucked out into space; I've never been a huge fan of TOS Kirk but one of his best qualities was that he deeply felt it when a crew member under his command died. Finally, it was very hard to watch Anton on screen without tearing up. I'm in the camp that would rather see Chekov's character written out as transferring to another ship rather than dying off-screen, and Jaylah would be fine as a replacement character.

Consider that except during the Wrath Of Khan most Enterprise deaths occurred in the single digits and the Enterprise did not save entire Federation planets. Being at Yorktown because of the stakes the first instinct of the community is to celebrate and honor those that saved us along with the fallen rather than to mourn the losses.

[johntfs]

The more I think about it, the more I kind of want them to just have Chekov be dead between the movie.  Having him be transferred or "on vacation" or still alive somewhere else when we know he's never coming back just seems juvenile and faintly disrespectful.  It's like the thing overprotective parents tell their kids: "I'm sorry sweetie, Sparky ran away to be with his dog family.  He certainly didn't get squashed by a car and buried in our backyard.  BTW, don't dig around too much in that shallow mound of earth by the fence." 

Figure the next Trek movie won't be for another two-three years.  By that time a simple "Captain's Log: We still mourn the death of Ensign Chekov, who perished heroically during the Reliant incident, etc." will be fine.  It beats  "Yes, Ensign Chekov transferred to our base on the Moon, where he's become great friends with Tom Cruise and Willzyx the whale..."

[Bruinsfan]

I think I'll be OK with either a somber remembrance or Chekov being reassigned to a farm where he can run and play outside all day and live happily ever after. The filmmakers seem to have the knack for hitting just the right note respecting departed cast members based on how they treated Nimoy, so I'll trust their instincts in that regard.

 

Jaylah becoming a bridge crew member would definitely be a good idea, she has great audience response, tailor-made character traits, and the improving gender and alien balance factor going for her. (I never thought of the cast being imbalanced with the original actors, but then Nurse Chapel and Yeoman Rand were the ship's most prominent recurring tertiary characters, and Nichelle Nichols' Uhura was awesome enough that it didn't seem like a boys' club with her around.)

[BigBeagle]

Finally went and saw it, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I thought it was easily the best of the Kelvin timeline Treks. It wasn't perfect, but it was pretty darned good.

I don't know why, but, "My house is breaking!!!!!" is pretty much the line of the movie for me (well, that and, "So you gave your girlfriend a tracking device?").

[Jazzy24]

I loved this movie. 

Chris Pine is awesome and Captain James T. Kirk and Spock continue to be my favorite relationship in the franchise. 

I loved how we were shown how much Kirk cared about his crew we weren't just told we were shown how he would do anything for him and they him, I loved it. And I tired of the Enterprise being constantly destroyed, so hopefully they don't do that next movie. 

I really liked all the Kirk and Krall interactions two different men who cared deeply for their crew. Spock and McCoy were great everything about them. Every time Anton was on screen my heart broke a little bit more I loved his character. 

Im excited for the next installment. 

[krankydoodle]

10 hours ago, Jazzy24 said:

Im excited for the next installment. 

I hope it makes enough for there to be more movies. With Jason Bourne last week and Suicide Squad this week, its prospects don't look good but maybe the overseas earnings will make up for any shortfall.

[Bruinsfan]

Suicide Squad's rep is plummeting faster than the Enterprise after it got torn apart by the swarm of space bees, so it's possible this movie may pick up some of the slack and have a decent weekend.

[xaxat]

Thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Krall may have been a tad bit under defined (for understandable plot reasons), but I like the fact that he was a bona fide villain in this summer where most of the tentpole action flicks featured superheros punching other superheros. 

It was nice that Jaylah, who was one of the strengths of the movie, got admitted to Starfleet. But I kind of like the idea of a show with her flying around the frontier in her house, fixing shit to help people.

 

On 7/26/2016 at 8:08 AM, FurryFury said:

I've recently played through the whole trilogy and lots of stuff reminded me of Mass Effect :)

The shot that really reminded me of Mass Effect was when Kirk was wandering the hallways of the disintegrating Enterprise and he looks up at huge hole in the hull. 

Spoiler

It was just like the opening scene in ME2 when Shep is walking through the disintegrating Normandy. 

Edited August 4, 2016 by xaxat

[MarkHB]

I just saw this today (very last IMAX show before the Suicide Squad previews), and loved it.  I wasn't really conscious of TOS when it was first on (I was busy learning how to walk and use a spoon), but I came to love the show during the 70's when all there was were the endless reruns and constant rumors of some sort of reboot.  Yes, I teared up when the crew photo (c. Star Trek 4, I'm guessing) came out.

I think I'd rather see Chekov die offscreen than left alive and unseen.  Maybe the next movie (fingers crossed) could open with his funeral and a Walter Koenig cameo as his grandfather (assuming Walter is still with us then, and able to do a brief scene).

[JessePinkman]

For as enjoyable as the movie was...it felt like a mid-season episode of the 3rd season of a Star Trek reboot. I liked it just fine but I don't necessarily want to see more of it. I don't feel there's much more to learn about these characters (especially Kirk).

And I felt like Zoe Saldana and John Cho couldn't have been on set for more than 5 days, they had nothing to do.

[xaxat]

37 minutes ago, JessePinkman said:

And I felt like Zoe Saldana and John Cho couldn't have been on set for more than 5 days, they had nothing to do.

I kind of agree. But I thought Sulu's "Are you kidding me sir?" was the most badass moment of the movie.

The scene with the photo was emotional for me because it almost certainly marks the final chapter of TOS, the show that introduced me to science fiction. 

It was a Hell of a run.

(I wonder if Spock will show it to the other members of the bridge crew.)

[Chaos Theory]

Just got back from seeing this.  My father originally wanted to see Suicide Squad with me but the tickets at the theater we went to were sold out so I "convinced" him to buy me a ticket for a later showing of Star Trek Beyond (he didn't want to go.)  

I thought it was awesome.  Might be my favorite one of the three.  I liked how the pairs were not the usual ones.  Kirk with Chekov,  Spock and McCoy, Sulu and Uhura, and Scotty and Jaylah.  They were all fun pairings that worked for me.  I especially liked the Scotty/Jaylah and Spock/McCoy pairings.  

The story itself was for the most part exciting. It had alot of good action moments which is a big plus for me when it comes to movies.   Kirk and Krall also worked for me even though the Krall back story was a little rushed.  The rest of it was an exiting "save the crew save the universe" storyline.  

I do also like that the movie had shout backs to the original series/movies.  When Spock took out the picture of the original crew it was a very fitting moment.  I like how the show handled Leonard Nimoy's death.   Now I am wondering more then ever how they will handle Anton Yelchin.

Oh and Sulu's big gay moment wasn't all that big.  Probably would barely notice unless you were looking for it.  

Edited August 6, 2016 by Chaos Theory