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Stirring the Pot: Controversial Commercials


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If you want to try a truly awful carbonated beverage, look for Irn-Bru. My Publix carries it in the Brit Food section, in between the MexiFood and the Jewish Food.  (I wish they'd put Fox's U-Bet chocolate syrup in the JewFood section, like they used to. Actually, it belongs next to the Hershey's syrup year-round, but when they do carry it, they stick it with the matzoh & gefilte fish.) It's not easy having Yankee taste buds in the south.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irn-Bru

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RC is still very big in the Chicago area. Mostly because we have a local bottling plant, and pizza places around here will still give you a free 1 Liter bottle with a large pizza, and a 2 liter bottle with an extra large. Here is actually a good article about it with some history of RC as well, with tidbits like they were the first cola company to offer the 1 liter bottle.

 

http://encyclopizzeria.com/pizzology/rc-cola-and-chicago-pizza/

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55 minutes ago, CoderLady said:

This really got me: "This is not about you getting a ticket. It's about you not coming home."

This may be an unpopular thing to say, but as a mother of a mixed race child I told my son when he was young that the police are not your friends, have as little as possible to do with them and if you have to interact with them it had better be "Yes Sir" this and "No Ma'am" that.  And to just stay away from them if at all possible.

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On 8/1/2017 at 0:38 PM, Silver Raven said:

This ad is beautiful and tragic.  And the racists' heads are exploding.

 

I went over to share this on wonkette and as I was posting this comment showed up: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article164851802.html 

NAACP issues first-ever travel advisory for a state — and it’s Missouri

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I don't think racists' heads are exploding. I think they just tune it out and ignore it.  And while I think it's a powerful ad, it's diminished by "My Black is Beautiful" at the end.  It seems so condescending & patronizing coming from a corporation that's probably run by a bunch of old white guys.  What's with the "my" ?  What about YOUR black? Is only MY black beautiful? It's a stupid statement and it takes away some power from the original ad.

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On 8/1/2017 at 2:20 PM, CoderLady said:

This really got me: "This is not about you getting a ticket. It's about you not coming home."

Yeah, each segment is powerful, but that one especially.  (Also that she says, "When you get pulled over ..."  Not if.  When.)

Oh, and, yes, the racists are freaking their shit over this.  "Identity politics pandering."  "Black Lives Matter propaganda."  Well, that's from the National Review; the online commentary is less articulate.  Boycott P&G!  Because acknowledging racism is what's racist, you know.

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1 hour ago, Bastet said:

Yeah, each segment is powerful, but that one especially.  (Also that she says, "When you get pulled over ..."  Not if.  When.)

Oh, and, yes, the racists are freaking their shit over this.  "Identity politics pandering."  "Black Lives Matter propaganda."  Well, that's from the National Review; the online commentary is less articulate.  Boycott P&G!  Because acknowledging racism is what's racist, you know.

Jesus wept.

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On 8/3/2017 at 5:40 AM, Prevailing Wind said:

I don't think racists' heads are exploding. I think they just tune it out and ignore it.  And while I think it's a powerful ad, it's diminished by "My Black is Beautiful" at the end.  It seems so condescending & patronizing coming from a corporation that's probably run by a bunch of old white guys.  What's with the "my" ?  What about YOUR black? Is only MY black beautiful? It's a stupid statement and it takes away some power from the original ad.

But they aren't ignoring it.  They're actively posting malignant things.

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5 minutes ago, InDueTime said:

The two women in the pulled Hallmark ad appear again in this Zola ad. 

It looks like Zola saw the Aviation Gin ad with the Peleton actress and took notes. I wonder if this meta approach will be a new trend with commercials.

I don't understand what you're saying - that's not a new ad, that's the original Zola commercial Hallmark refused to air. 

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I wonder if those same  million  moms got all agitated about the  lesbian kiss in the  Amazon commercial?  😉

Well, I for one am devastated, just devastated that such behavior is being normalized! And I will march, march, march with all my might until our children are shielded from such depravity!

Just kidding. I'm a big ole middle-aged lesbian and I'm glad to see that advertisers are beginning to realize that all couples are not the same.

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10 hours ago, mmecorday said:

Just kidding. I'm a big ole middle-aged lesbian and I'm glad to see that advertisers are beginning to realize that all couples are not the same.

@MMCORDAY my DD and her wife have the most wonderful children as do my DS and his wife. They are all loved and supported by the whole family equally. It is time for the negativity to stop.

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9 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

Just saw an HIV pill ad where there was a male couple stroking each other's hands, plus one of the participants said, "Has not been studied in people assigned female."

The rednecks are going to plotz.

 

I saw that commercial too (I'm in the metro-Atlanta area). I can't wait for the freak-out.

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16 hours ago, Silver Raven said:

Just saw an HIV pill ad where there was a male couple stroking each other's hands, plus one of the participants said, "Has not been studied in people assigned female."

The rednecks are going to plotz.

 

Think about the implications here.  This medication was not studied in people who are biologically female.  It was designed solely for use by those biologically male?  Only they get HIV?

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Just now, PennyPlain said:

But that still doesn't answer why it was not studied on women.  It does seem like so many medications get studied for men and women are the afterthought.  Perhaps there are valid reasons in this specific case but I too would wonder why.

Oh, absolutely. Heart disease comes to mind. They never really studied it in women and a lot of women died because their doctors never even thought to look into it.

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17 minutes ago, PennyPlain said:

But that still doesn't answer why it was not studied on women

It looks like biological women need a lot more of this drug (Truvada) to be as effective as the twice a week pill dosage recommended for men. This is a 2016 article: Truvada dosage variables

I'm no scientist, but I wonder if they can't do an apples-to-apples study (and advertise it truthfully) if the dosage is so different? Based on the quoted article, this drug works very differently on female parts.

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19 minutes ago, PennyPlain said:

But that still doesn't answer why it was not studied on women.  It does seem like so many medications get studied for men and women are the afterthought.  Perhaps there are valid reasons in this specific case but I too would wonder why.

There's another medication called PreP that has been out a bit longer that looks to be available to both those assigned male and those assigned female at birth. 

I am struggling to phrase this correctly (please correct everything inaccurate and accept my apologizes for the inaccuracies) but aren't people assigned male at birth but do not identify as "male" and people who identify as a gay man at a higher risk of HIV than people who identify as CIS gender they were born? Perhaps that's the reason this drug has only been tested on people who were assigned male at birth, to start.

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