S05.E07: First Time For Everything

[msblossom]

Maci's segment was ridiculous. No Bentley should equal no Maci or anyone else associated with her.

Next week Maci has another tantrum. Someone please cut this bitch off. It's over. I resent MTV for showing us this dribble.

Amber and her greasy boyfriend are moving way too fast. I lol that Amber's mom is 4 years older than the bf. That put things in perspective for Amber and she didn't want to hear it. Her mom likes the bf because he sucks up to her. This guy is a piece of work and tells everyone what they want to hear. He's in this for the fame, money and whatever else he can get from Amber. As soon as this show gets cancelled, and I hope this is the last season, reality will set in for both of them and bc neither of them are holding down a job, they will go through Amber's money pretty fast. They will both be stressed out and fighting about money, and we know that Amber doesn't do well when she's stressed. She will start getting controlling and bitchy bc this loser won't pull his own weight or he'll be forced to take what he's qualified to do and that's low income employment, baby. He's a "professional" poker player so he'll probably lose a bunch of money that he can't spare. He'll be stuck in Podunk, Indiana with a gf/fiancée/wife that sleeps too much, eats too much and lays around on the couch all day with a blankie pooled around her. He'll long to go back to Beantown where his friends are and where life's more interesting. And that will be the end of it and Ambie will be a mess again. I give them 2 years.

[lezlers]

Yeah, some fansite posted pics of Maci wearing an engagement ring in real time (well, I guess I don't know it was an engagement ring, it was a ring worn on her left ring finger that looks like an engagement ring), so I think they do get engaged. However, he wouldn't be the first guy to purchase a "shut up ring" with no actual wedding plans in sight. Catelynn has been "engaged" for what, 5 years now?

 

Ah yes, the ol shut up ring.  Gotta love it.  Had one of those myself, once.  Shockingly, I didn't marry that guy.  Anyone can buy a diamond ring (especially the awesome checkerboard one Amber was sporting), until dude is standing at the top of the aisle waiting, it doesn't mean a damn thing. In the words of the great Kim Zolciak, the ring don't mean a thing!

 

I like Amber's brother.  He seems to be the only one out of the whole lot of them that has an ounce of common sense.  I'm also not going to rag on her for having her family eat on the couch.  In the first scene with her boyfriend and Leah, he was sitting at what looked to be a small table (which I'm guessing is seldom used.)  Everyone there likely couldn't fit around it, so they ate on the couch.  Not that I don't think Amber is a lazy heiffer, because I TOTALLY do, I'm just not side-eyeing her for being on the couch in that particular situation.

 

I can't stand Maci.  She was being such a bitch to her poor, beaten down boyfriend at that dinner. I get the whole hungry while pregnant rage (been there, sister), but a lot of her bitchiness was after she had eaten too.  And I'm not buying this whole "we're too poor to afford a house with more than one bathroom and a bathtub" foolishness.  Bitch, please.  What the hell are you doing with your MTV money?  I'm doubting the cost of living is THAT high where she is, she can afford to rent a decent 2 or 3 bedroom house.  

 

Farrah.  Oh, Farrah.  Her boyfriend seems skeevy as hell and if she's holding her breath waiting for marriage, she's going to pass out as a very disappointed woman. Never gonna happen, darling.  That boy is enjoying dating Farrah The Pornstar.  The minute the media forgets about her, so will he.  Guaranteed. 

[msblossom]

Ah yes, the ol shut up ring.  Gotta love it.  Had one of those myself, once.  Shockingly, I didn't marry that guy.  Anyone can buy a diamond ring (especially the awesome checkerboard one Amber was sporting), until dude is standing at the top of the aisle waiting, it doesn't mean a damn thing. In the words of the great Kim Zolciak, the ring don't mean a thing!

 

I like Amber's brother.  He seems to be the only one out of the whole lot of them that has an ounce of common sense.  I'm also not going to rag on her for having her family eat on the couch.  In the first scene with her boyfriend and Leah, he was sitting at what looked to be a small table (which I'm guessing is seldom used.)  Everyone there likely couldn't fit around it, so they ate on the couch.  Not that I don't think Amber is a lazy heiffer, because I TOTALLY do, I'm just not side-eyeing her for being on the couch in that particular situation.

 

I can't stand Maci.  She was being such a bitch to her poor, beaten down boyfriend at that dinner. I get the whole hungry while pregnant rage (been there, sister), but a lot of her bitchiness was after she had eaten too.  And I'm not buying this whole "we're too poor to afford a house with more than one bathroom and a bathtub" foolishness.  Bitch, please.  What the hell are you doing with your MTV money?  I'm doubting the cost of living is THAT high where she is, she can afford to rent a decent 2 or 3 bedroom house.

 

Farrah.  Oh, Farrah.  Her boyfriend seems skeevy as hell and if she's holding her breath waiting for marriage, she's going to pass out as a very disappointed woman. Never gonna happen, darling.  That boy is enjoying dating Farrah The Pornstar.  The minute the media forgets about her, so will he.  Guaranteed.

Actually, this one time I agree with Macy. Why should she rent when she already owns a house? It would be stupid to sell her house and throw her $ away renting. She needs to live within her means, many first time homeowners have had to make due with one bathroom and a smaller house. She likely has thrown away a lot of her MTV money on boobs and junk. Not to mention all the money she's thrown away on tuition over the last 6 years and has yet to graduate with an AA degree. The MTV gig won't last much longer and I have no idea what Taylor does to earn a living. She's wise to stay put until they can save money for a bigger home.

[purplemonkey]

I know Catelynn's a mess with her mascara tears, but I enjoy looking at her. She looks like a real human, without fake eyelashes, boobs, and teeth.

I get it now! How do we claw our way back into Carly's life? Stay together for an unreal number of years for a teenage relationship, pimp for the Christian adoption agency, and then have a baby girl that looks EXACTLY LIKE CARLY while going on and on about how they'll be twinsies when they grow up. Well played long con, C&T! Awkward for B&T, but I can't say I pity them as they knew this would come.

Even Amber's dog was giving her a "girl, please" face. I like the way Leah wears her hair pulled back. It's super cute. Sophia should take a page out of her book.

I think if Maci really wants the ring, she should just not agree to cohabitate. Too late now that he moved out of state to be with her.

[ghoulina]

Maci's segment was ridiculous. No Bentley should equal no Maci or anyone else associated with her.

 

Right? The show is not called, "Feckless Southern Loser and the People They Annoy". 

[njmama]

I am not even gonna front, I want a spinoff of Ryan's parents! Maci seems to get along with them better than her own parents and they in turn enjoy Maci more than their own son! The dynamic is so interesting with Maci/Ryan/Taylor/Larry and Jennifer. I genuinely enjoy those scenes because Larry is the voice of reason in this ENTIRE SERIES.

Clock is ticking on Taylor. Someone mentioned he looks defeated and it's true. I do not feel the love between them at all. I have that secret hope that Maci and Ryan do get back together down the road.

Laziest person ever now goes to Amber. Her ass is glued to that couch!!! Someone is always at the door to and she never answers it. She say come in or they just walk in. Get off your ass girl!

Tyler should be kissing Catelynn's feet cause if it weren't for her, that adoption would be closed so fast. He loves to bring up any way he can that if this happened or that happened they wouldn't be together. So, she's lucky you guys are still together?? Please. He needs to be brought down a few pegs.

Farrah, no interest whatsoever.

[SPLAIN]

What is the point of following Maci now? If Bentley won't be shown, surely the new baby will not be shown on the show. Once she delivers, are we stuck having to watch Maci bitch about the same things with Taylor that we saw her bitch about Ryan?

[ghoulina]

Laziest person ever now goes to Amber. Her ass is glued to that couch!!! Someone is always at the door to and she never answers it. She say come in or they just walk in. Get off your ass girl!

 

Does everyone text her before they come over? She knows for sure it's a friend/family member at the door, not a solicitor or Mormon boy on his bike? I guess I might worry for her safety, but axe murderers don't tend to knock. 

Edited May 5, 2015 by ghoulina

[Katydid]

It seemed that Tyler and his mom were itching to drum up some "Why didn't Teresa respond?! Is she mad?!" drama over the side by side comparison pics. I think he lives to stir things up like that. I'm glad Teresa and Catelynn seem to be close. But I do wonder if they are fanning the flames a bit with all the Carly baby clothes and talk of loving Nova, etc. I'm sure Teresa's just a good, loving person, but with Tyler in the mix, and he and Catelynn assuming Carly and Nova will grow up to be besties, I'm not sure that accenting the sisterly connection is the best idea.

[aurora296]

I've always been a Maci defender, but when she said, "You can film MEE!!" I suddenly got what you all are saying. Bentley is the best part of the Maci segments, along with Ryan's parents, so now I guess I'll be fast forwarding through.

Because of Maci "taking a stand" regarding filming with Farrah, it's doing the opposite of what she had hoped. People are not exactly defending Farrah, but excusing her behavior which makes her look not so bad. Here's a sarcastic THANK YOU to Maci for making that happen.  

 

The part where Cate & Tyler are talking while holding Nova, where Cate says something and starts to cry I cannot understand what she says. I rewound that part over and over and i have no idea what she blurts out. Can you all help me? 

[truelovekiss]

I think I'm in the minority, because I kind of agree with Maci, or at least see where she's coming from. They were promised/led to believe when they signed on that it would just be the three of them, and then once they were already in, the producers sprung Farrah on them. I do think that if it was that important to Maci, she should have made sure it was in her contract. But I can also see her having a degree of trust in MTV after knowing and working with them for so long. Honestly, I would bet dollars to all the doughnuts Gary can eat that this is the last season for them. (Bring on the deer cam and Babs!)

Matt is seriously so creepy, I don't know how Amber's mom and Bubby haven't flipped out about him. I doubt he'll be around long after the show ends. I can't believe I'm saying this, but if I had to choose between him and Gary, I pick Gary (barf).

Tyler is the worst thing for Catelynn's relationship with Carly, the second worst being the show. I truly believe that if there had never been teen mom and they broke up after her birth, Catelynn would be allowed to have more time and interaction with Carly. Theresa seens to genuinely like her, and maybe love her, but she's barely able to stomach Tyler. He's such an instigator, and he never really seems happy unless he has something to bitch about.

And WTF was up with "she'll be closer to Nova than her adoptive parents." Girl, this is why they want to restrict your access to Carly.

Edited May 5, 2015 by truelovekiss

[lezlers]

Actually, this one time I agree with Macy. Why should she rent when she already owns a house? It would be stupid to sell her house and throw her $ away renting. She needs to live within her means, many first time homeowners have had to make due with one bathroom and a smaller house. She likely has thrown away a lot of her MTV money on boobs and junk. Not to mention all the money she's thrown away on tuition over the last 6 years and has yet to graduate with an AA degree. The MTV gig won't last much longer and I have no idea what Taylor does to earn a living. She's wise to stay put until they can save money for a bigger home.

 

 

I didn't realize she owns that shack she lives in. If that's the case, then it DOES change things.  I stand corrected.

[DollyMamaB]

I tried watching Farrah but I can't.  She's still the same entitled, selfish, bitchy, baby talking, fake.  Nothing about her "entertains" me.  FF'd

 

I would have respected Maci more if she had just stuck to her word and stayed off the show.  

 

It irks the hell out of Tyler that Teresa will respond to Cate and not him.  Grow up dude.  

 

Amber - that boyfriend creeps me the hell out.  I wouldn't leave him alone with a stuffed animal, let alone my kid.  

[jrose16]

Farrah's boyfriend seems to loathe her. It's obvious he's only with her because of her "fame." Why else would anyone want to voluntarily spend time with her? She's such a fake bitch and while Debra is no prize, Farrah could be just a little nicer. What the hell kind of people show up to her events? I cringed when I saw those girls in togas holding up the letters in her name. 

 

Amber, listen to your brother. That whole relationship is incredibly uncomfortable to watch. Where do those dogs go to the bathroom? I'm sure she doesn't get off the couch to take them outside. 

[starfire]

Oh I forgot to ask, are there and other Canadians on here ? I'm asking because you all talk about the after show and I've never seen it on my MTV channel, and I'm wondering if other Canadians have the after show on their channel. Is it only aired in the states?

 

The episodes and after-shows are usually posted on the MTV web site the day after they have aired.

http://www.mtv.com/shows/teen_mom/video/

[wrestlesflamingos]

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[Cosmocrush]

Don't these guys watch old episodes? ( looking at you Jermy) This was all laid out for him when Maci was with Kyle. Maci wants to be somebody's wife and any warm motor crossing fool will do.

On the after show, Taylor said he had never seen Teen Mom.  When he met Maci (through mutual friends at a motorcross event in TX) he didn't understand why people wanted pics with her rather than the motorcross guys. 

 

When asked on the after show he was all, "You'll have to wait and see". So I get the feeling that he proposes on the show and they're trying to keep it under wraps until it airs. Now, as to them getting married.....yea. I see them having a LONG engagement. 

 

When his buddies at the bar asked him when he was going to propose, didn't Taylor even answer, "Before the end of Season One"  lol.  He said it jokingly but it sounded about right to me. 

 

 

I like Amber's brother.  He seems to be the only one out of the whole lot of them that has an ounce of common sense.  I'm also not going to rag on her for having her family eat on the couch.  In the first scene with her boyfriend and Leah, he was sitting at what looked to be a small table (which I'm guessing is seldom used.)  Everyone there likely couldn't fit around it, so they ate on the couch.  Not that I don't think Amber is a lazy heiffer, because I TOTALLY do, I'm just not side-eyeing her for being on the couch in that particular situation.

Except there is a full size dining table directly behind the couch (between the kitchen and the living room).  I only noticed it because I couldn't figure out why Amber's family came over for dinner on the couch.  I guess if they want to spend time with Amber, it's gonna be on her sofa, lol.  

 

 

The part where Cate & Tyler are talking while holding Nova, where Cate says something and starts to cry I cannot understand what she says. I rewound that part over and over and i have no idea what she blurts out. Can you all help me? 

I'm sorry but I don't remember exactly except Catelyn mentioned when she left the hospital with Nova it was the exact same exit door she left with Carly.  It made me think of  how she had to surrender her baby on the sidewalk a block away because that adoption agency couldn't take the baby from the hospital without April's consent - or something like that.  I forget the details but I remember how heartbroken I felt for Catelyn during that scene.  Maybe she was remembering the same thing?  

 

And WTF was up with "she'll be closer to Nova than her adoptive parents." Girl, this is why they want to restrict your access to Carly.

I might be wrong, but I thought Catelyn was referring to herself and Tyler, not Teresa and Brandon.   Catelyn was talking about when Carly and Nova grow up and how she's read that adopted children, once they locate biological siblings, are often closer to their bio sibs than to the their bio parents - people who gave them up.  So she suggested that Carly may one day have a "closer" relationship to Nova than she might with Catelyn or Tyler. 

Edited May 6, 2015 by Cosmocrush

[lexiexx]

Maci should have left Bentley on the show even if just for the reason that her new man realizing what a bitch she is will be her new storyline. That was quick. Soon as she made that announcement that she can be filmed we see her being a bitch and the new guy looking miserable. Damn. Could have edited him out and stuck footage of Ryan from season one in there and had the same scene. Has she not learned that a baby isn't going to keep a man around? It's not her first time at the mantrap baby rodeo.

[qtpye]

I can not believe how sad and desperate these girls have become to have testosterone in their lives.  I do not know how marrying a gross creepy man who is twenty years older then you and does not have a penny to his name a good idea. Usually a guy his age has some sort of stability.

 

I felt like Taylor was practically demanding that Maci buy them another house before the baby comes.  I am certain he does not have enough money for a down payment.  I think he suspects Maci is trying to trap him into marriage with the pregnancy (though he was just as much his fault for not wrapping us his business).

 

Farrah sounded just like Debra when she was using the baby voice with Sophia.  It grossed me out when she used the same type of voice with her boyfriend.  That guy is so not into her.  He is hoping to ride on her D-list fame.  She was soooo happy she finally had a boyfriend to present on television...it was actually kind of sad.

 

Tyler is only around for attention, otherwise he would have split a long time ago.  It seemed like Cate was doing the lion share of the baby chores.

 

Girls...please kick these losers out of your life.

[msblossom]

I didn't realize she owns that shack she lives in. If that's the case, then it DOES change things.  I stand corrected.

Yeah, she bought that house awhile back. I'm not sure if you recall the episode, I think it was Season 4, when she was still with Kyle and they (probably with Maci's money) bought that house bc she wanted a yard for Bentley to be able to play in.

[leighroda]

Color me surprised Maci picked up her cross and decided to return to the show (sorry there is no sarcasm font) I never had an issue with her before this season, and now the issue is that she makes me agree/empathize with Farrah.

Do I think Farrah made wise choices, no. Do I agree with Farrah's decisions, no. BUT... Those are HER choices to make. I can kinda understand Maci's opinion that its's not helping the shows message, until I look down at her big pregnant belly... For the record I don't feel like that is my place to judge either, but she is so sanctimonious (Farrah word choice) about it. I do not understand what removing Bently from filming does, so we don't get treated to another switch off from Maci to Ryan twice a show? Sad day I guess. All she really needs to do is say he can't be at the filming of the reunion shows or any other event Farrah will be present at, he's already linked to the teen mom "brand" for life, him not being present in ongoing episodes isn't going to change that. If that was truly her concern she would have gone through removing herself.

I just don't get it, Maci is "famous" for the EXACT same thing as Farrah, the only reason Farrah's video got any press was because of teen mom, if she had been any other random porn star, that video wouldn't be any kind of big deal. Again I don't think the video was a good idea at all, but that is Farrah's decision to make, if mtv was ok with her coming back dispite the shows message that's their deal, Maci is just another character on the show, maybe if she would get that degree she has been working on forever, THEN she could be a producer and get to make those decisions.

*disclaimer* I know I'm a huge hypocrite for saying Maci shouldn't judge then judging the crap out of her in the same breath... I just feel kinda like if she wants to dish it out she has to be able to take it.

[poeticlicensed]

That ring that Amber's creepy ass bf gave her whilst proposing over burgers looked totally cheap ass. The middle stone was one of those ones where they take 6 stones and mount them close to give the illusion of a large stone. And Amber is still couch sitting all day. So creeper is cooking with Leah while Amber sleeps? Typical. I'm not sure if it's drugs, depression or both, but something ain't right. 

 

Farrah is playing it for the cameras. Poor Sophia, the dysfunction that swirls around her daily. 

 

Maci - newsflash, no one cares about your "story" without Bentley. Please go away. 

 

Yes, C&T, Carly and Nova will be twinsies. I get that they regret giving up Carly, despite their protestations. They need to invest some MTV money in a good counselor to deal with their issues, not a BS christian adoption counselor, and a lawyer who will tell them the hard truth, that they have zero rights. To perpetuate a fantasy that Carly and Nova and they are all a big family is just that, a fantasy. 

[lexiexx]

I could be wrong but I don't think maci owns a house Kyle bought that house they looked at ok that episode iirc. Her mother asked Maci something like what if they get in a fight or something on the episode. Then in the being maci special she was renting a party house with other girls and even covering the one girls rent I think they are just renting wherever they are now. I guess the new guy thinks Maci is financially secure right now and should just go get a bigger place. Does he even have a job? She was quick to point out Ryan's late support payments when she was on the show so I don't think she is going to happily foot the bill for everything even if she could afford it.

[zenme]

And I was also matching Kristal's "ew" face as Amber kissed that sasquatch hand. *shudder*

 

ghoulina, I was thinking it was similar to the "Hamburger Helper" hand/glove. 

 

Well, despite all the crazy, Sophia does seem to be well-adjusted and well-loved.  I hope things work out for that kid.  Hopefully, she'll wind up spending a majority of her time with Michael rather than Farrah. 

 

Is there nothing that Deborah can say that doesn't elicit a snide or smart ass comment from Farrah?  The most innocent comment from Deborah has Farrah practically snarling.  I mean the crew can't even say anything! I'm starting to wonder if it's Farrah who's made the Abrahams crazy, and not the other way around...

[Maharincess]

I might be wrong, but I thought Catelyn was referring to herself and Tyler, not Teresa and Brandon. Catelyn was talking about when Carly and Nova grow up and how she's read that adopted children, once they locate biological siblings, are often closer to their bio sibs than to the people who gave them up. So she suggested that Carly may one day have a "closer" relationship to Nova than she might with Catelyn or Tyler.

That was the impression I got from that scene too, I think she meant she and Tyler not Theresa and Brandon.

Amber is so odd with the nicknames. I understand having nicknames for your kids, I have them for my kids. But most people only use the nickname when talking to the child, not when they are talking about the child to another adult. Its just very odd to me. Same thing with the stupid "Bubby" crap.

Edited May 6, 2015 by Maharincess

[Cosmocrush]

Farrah's babytalk to her boyfriend was giving me flashbacks to Deborah's babytalk to Sophia.  I wonder where this great guy was for the aftershow this week since the other three boyfriends were there. I have a question about the  reality show with Mother/Daughter therapy:  Didn't Farrah already do a reality show about Couple's Therapy but without a partner?   Weird. 

 

 

That ring that Amber's creepy ass bf gave her whilst proposing over burgers looked totally cheap ass. The middle stone was one of those ones where they take 6 stones and mount them close to give the illusion of a large stone. And Amber is still couch sitting all day. So creeper is cooking with Leah while Amber sleeps? Typical. I'm not sure if it's drugs, depression or both, but something ain't right. 

Amber's boyfriend didn't get any less creepier to me this week at all.  Amber's grandmother or someone noted that he showed up at Amber's with a coffee pot and a tv. Oh, I guess he brought his collection of celebrity(?) pics for Amber's wall too, lol.  

 

What good/decent 43 year old man, without a job or a home considers marrying a 22 year old girl (who has a bank account but no job or education)  with a small daughter a good idea?    Creepy Old Man Fan of Teen Mom I guess.  And he wants to go to Vegas and do it by the end of the month!   What's wrong with Amber's mom that she thinks this is a good idea?  Seriously, Brother Bubby and Cousin Crystal seem to be the only one with any sense in this group. 

 

I'm sincerely hoping the breakfast/kitchen scene with Leah and Matt was a reenactment or something because if Amber was still in bed then who got Leah dressed and fed?

Edited May 6, 2015 by Cosmocrush

[configdotsys]

Has everyone else noticed that Farrah just seems to become instantly enraged any time she has to ask her mother for anything. Way back on the 16 and P episode, she was gritting her teeth and so angry sounding when she asked her mother to help her at night with the baby. Same with this therapy show. The tone she uses when she has to ask for something is just so pissed off. And once again, I must say, Sophia is one very unattractive kid.

 

I thought after C&T met with B&T about the whole situation that B&T would start to back off a bit. By not answering Tyler (who can blame them) it seemed that was the case, but as soon as Cate took Theresa off speaker was she really all "I love her. I love her. I can't wait to meet her" like they are going to be pals or something. Don't B&T realize that saying things like that make C&T think they will be a huge family at some point. It feels like B&T had an opportunity to start backing away and C&T were upset about that but then B&T say or do something and you can see the look of relief on C&T's faces as if "Whew, okay, we're back to being a happy family again" when that's probably the last thing B&T want. Cate saying Nova is Carly's full sister made me think that Catelynn thinks they are going to have playdates and stuff.

 

Amber's guy and Leah in the kitchen with him asking her questions creeped me out as well. I'm not a fan of Amber at all but I have to say, I live in a 600 square foot apartment and have no table and chairs here. If friends came by, they'd be eating on one of the two loveseats that I have, with snack tables though, and very possibly on paper plates for convenience sake. I didn't see anything wrong with that. Then again, I have space limitations, and Amber's just incredibly lazy and has room to serve a group .

 

I am so not a fan of the type of beards that Taylor and his friend have. It is a look that is just so terribly unattractive to me. I don't understand the stupidity of this guy. You can see all over his face that he has no desire whatsoever to get married and yet he tells his friends "I know that's what she wants" and so he wants to buy a ring before the baby comes. Yeah, that's a great reason to get married. 

 

 

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Farrah- Her boyfriend doesn't even seem like he even LIKES her or wants to be around her, let alone be in a romantic relationship with her. Farrah and her mom are both clearly insane (and not just "over furniture").

Catelynn- All of us who suspected B&T don't like Tyler but do like Catelynn and deal with him for her sake - we were correct. Theresa texts Catelynn back and ignores Tyler. She sends Nova gifts then only puts Catelynn's name on the card/note. I do think Theresa loves Catelynn and is keeping the adoption open for her & genuinely wants to have some sort of relationship with her.

I found it refreshing to see Catelynn with minimal/no make-up on, hair down, and in a t-shirt/comfy clothes. She was keeping it real for what a mom looks like when they have a days old baby at home. That was brave. And I think she looks a lot better without a lot of make-up and the clothes/hair. She still looked like she had that pregnancy glow despite being exhausted.

Maci- Good luck, Taylor.

Amber- Please have a very long engagement. Good for Bubby for calling her out and for cousin Crystal's side eye.

Edited May 6, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Amber is still couch sitting all day. So creeper is cooking with Leah while Amber sleeps? Typical. I'm not sure if it's drugs, depression or both, but something ain't right.

I agree that something ain't right. I hope it's not drugs again.

Also, Amber never seems to get up to answer her door or see who is there. She just yells "come in" from the couch. If I lived in Anderson, Indiana, I'd be mighty tempted to go knock on her door just to see if she'd yell "come in" & then I - a random person who watches the show - could just come up in her house. I hope she knows who is coming over ahead of time due to production on the show and I hope in non-filming life she locks her door and gets up to see who is there.

Edited May 6, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[configdotsys]

Yeah, she bought that house awhile back. I'm not sure if you recall the episode, I think it was Season 4, when she was still with Kyle and they (probably with Maci's money) bought that house bc she wanted a yard for Bentley to be able to play in.

Wait... is the house they are living in now the one that Bentley was crying that he didn't like and kept going to Maci's bedroom when she was with Kyle? That's weird because if it is that house, when Maci and Kyle were outside talking it over, I remember Maci saying to Kyle, in response to him asking her "Are you sure?" She said, "You're buying it."

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Kyle was really quite lucky or smart (or both)- he got out without being "trap babied," married to Maci, etc.

Of course, he won't get to be in the "Maci's Baby Daddies" Playgirl spread that Papa Larry suggested (I so love me some Papa Larry).

I'd buy a Ryan nude spread (or at least look at it once it was on the Internet for free)...but sorry, Taylor & Kyles...not so much.

Edited May 6, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[msblossom]

Wait... is the house they are living in now the one that Bentley was crying that he didn't like and kept going to Maci's bedroom when she was with Kyle? That's weird because if it is that house, when Maci and Kyle were outside talking it over, I remember Maci saying to Kyle, in response to him asking her "Are you sure?" She said, "You're buying it."

Good catch. I thought so. I'd have to look at the episode again, but I'm probably not going to go to the trouble -- maybe someone else will. It could be a different house, although it sure it looks the same. Maybe she's bought it from Kyle? It would make sense if he got rid of it since I doubt he's living in Chattanooga anymore, he's probably back in Nashville where all of his friends are.

[Elizabeth9]

I don't think it's the same house. That house was in Kyle's name only.

[NikSac]

Is it me or is it weird to plan a baby when you are in a 'dating' relationship? Maci reminds me of Leah on TM2. They really move fast.

Maybe I'm old fashioned or something, but I agree it's weird.  That said I've seen girls/young women do this, especially if their relationship got rocky - because of course a baby will fix it. The difference in the situations I can think of is that the baby was 'planned' by the woman, usually without the guy even knowing about it. I can't remember a single situation where the boy/young man planned for a baby when in a dating relationship, or the couple mutually decided on having a baby while dating. Among the people I've known the guy's response was always "Wait, what? I thought you were on birth control."

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Farrah's babytalk to her boyfriend was giving me flashbacks to Deborah's babytalk to Sophia.

THIS.

Farrah clearly hates her mom . I think she's still pissed Deb didn't let her get an abortion when she came to her crying and asking for one as a scared 16 year old. I also think she blames Deb for breaking her and Derek up/keeping them apart/trying to hide the pregnancy from him in her revisionist history of her relationship with "Daddy Derek." (Notice I'm saying her revisionist history - not actually what happened.) And I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons, too and probably some messed up stuff in her childhood.

But the funny thing is that despite looking so much more like her dad (pre-plastic surgery), Farrah IS her mother. The baby voice, the condescending way she talks to people, the weird stuff she says, the show she makes of her "Christianity", the way she treats Michael, etc, - it's all Deb that I see and hear in her. She's just the younger, darker complection, more plastic, even bitchier, pornstar version of her mom.

Michael seems like a pushover and somewhat of a tool, but here's hoping Sophia takes after him more personality-wise than she does Farrah or Deb. I wonder if Derek's mom can even stand watching this show. I know it's the only time she can see her dead son's child. I'm not saying the woman is perfect or anything - but I know my heart would break to see Sophia being raised by these women who clearly have some sort of personality disorders and don't seem to know how to act like normal people even in the slightest (and Michael).

Note to self: If I ever have a daughter (I only have a son), and she comes crying to me that she's pregnant and begs for me to take her to get an abortion, do it.

Edited May 6, 2015 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[evilmindatwork]

Seriously, Farrah was probably messed up before but taking away that autonomy for her probably made it worse. 

 

Farrah is basically a lower rent Kim Kardashian with all the party hosting. I just don't understand why anyone wants her to do that though.  Kim K at least seems superficially pleasant and polite. 

[Elizabeth9]

Who were the paparazzi taking pics of Farrah? Seriously??

Maci is annoying. She completely ruined their evening. She always has to have her way.

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird for Nova to wear Carly's clothes? In a normal sibling situation, yes. But they will always and forever compare the two and this just keeps that happening.

[missy jo]

Without Bentley, there should be no Maci, Ryan, Larry or Ryan's mom -- period.

 

 

I literally don't understand how they can be on the show without Bentley. It's the actual *premise* of the show.

 

I was hoping that with the arrival of Nova, Catelynn and Tyler would finally move on, but nope - they're just as fixated on Carly as ever.

 

Farrah speaks to her boyfriend with the exact same baby talk that she uses for Sophia. That's creepy as hell.

Edited May 6, 2015 by missy jo

[B3cky50]

The company owned by Simon Saran (Wrap) has four ratings on Yelp, all of them ONE star.  There were five reviews removed for violating Yelp's Content Guidelines, all written within days of each other.  Those were all FIVE star ratings.  He sounds like a very ethical Bizness Man.  I wonder if he has an Executive MBA.

 

http://www.yelp.com/biz/empire-west-realty-san-diego

Actually, if you scroll to the bottom of the first page of reviews, you can click on "10 Reviews That Are Not Currently Recommended" for even more glowing reviews.

[B3cky50]

The part where Cate & Tyler are talking while holding Nova, where Cate says something and starts to cry I cannot understand what she says. I rewound that part over and over and i have no idea what she blurts out. Can you all help me?

I put on my closed captioning to catch what she said, and it was something like, "Do we have to talk about this??" Or "Why are we talking about this??"

That ring that Amber's creepy ass bf gave her whilst proposing over burgers looked totally cheap ass. The middle stone was one of those ones where they take 6 stones and mount them close to give the illusion of a large stone.

Ohhhhh. ((embarrassed face))

That's actually my exact ring. It was from Kay and cost $6000. Hers might be a different weight, but mine is 2 total carats and yes, is four diamonds together in the middle. I actually really love it and get tons of compliments, but anyway......

I find Ambers's new guy to be gross and inappropriate. Everything about him, from his teeth, to his autographed Judge Judy pictures creep me out.

THAT SAID. He looks like a totally different person in his Twitter profile pic. More normal, and less Rick Moranis-looking.

https://twitter.com/mattbept

Edited May 6, 2015 by B3cky50

[NikSac]

Rick Moranis!  That's who he looks like. Thank you. I've been trying to 'place' him in my head but couldn't.

[cheatincheetos]

Your 'image', Maci? Please, woman.

 

http://www.teenmomjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/macidrunk.jpg

[Snarky McSnarky]

The only thing I can find on Simon that is furniture-related is a company that stages homes for sale.  I guess that qualifies.  It's weird that he mentioned flipping houses on the show but didn't plug his rental property management business.  Maybe he read his Yelp reviews.  His Twitter and Instagram pages are filled with Farrah.  He loves the flashy venues and the fame, but Farrah could be Vicki Gunvalson for all he cares.  Sorry Farrah, this guy isn't moving to Austin  and he isn't looking to marry you.  Prepare yourself for more "negativity."

 

http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-san-diego-staging-company-san-diego

 

https://instagram.com/simon_23_saran

[wrestlesflamingos]

I'm going to split this conversation regarding proposals off into another thread. Feel free to continue that conversation over here: http://forums.previously.tv/topic/26010-marriage-and-proposals/#entry1113858

Edited May 6, 2015 by wrestlesflamingos

[SlothLoveChunk]

Did anyone else notice that in the wrap-up scenes (where all the sappy music plays and they show a few seconds of each girl), Simon was on the phone and Farrah was literally pawing him for attention?  He obviously couldn't care less about her in that moment and she was swaying around him, looking at the camera, then looking at him, then trying to rub him and kiss him?  It was hilariously pitiful.

[lezlers]

In defense of Catelynn and Tyler, I'm assuming the producers probably prod them to talk about Carly on camera a fair amount. too.

[ghoulina]

I might be wrong, but I thought Catelyn was referring to herself and Tyler, not Teresa and Brandon.   Catelyn was talking about when Carly and Nova grow up and how she's read that adopted children, once they locate biological siblings, are often closer to their bio sibs than to the their bio parents - people who gave them up.  So she suggested that Carly may one day have a "closer" relationship to Nova than she might with Catelyn or Tyler.

 

I really didn't think that was what she meant. I mean, it seems kind of common sense to me that an adopted child would end up having a closer relationship with a bio sibling as opposed to a bio parent. Obviously all cases are different, but with a bio parent there is a lot of room for anger and resentment. But a sibling would have no choice in you being given up, and I could see really wanting to get to know them. So I wouldn't think that would be a big surprise, or something to remark upon. 

 

Catelynn actually said "adoptive" parents. So I think she was saying that Nova and Carly might end up with more of a bond than Carly and B&T, which is just crazy to me. 

 

I'm sincerely hoping the breakfast/kitchen scene with Leah and Matt was a reenactment or something because if Amber was still in bed then who got Leah dressed and fed?

 

It did bother me that Amber was asleep while this virtual stranger is downstairs alone with Leah. But, I'm guessing by now she can dress herself. Let's hope so at least....

[kira28]

Amber's boyfriend creeps me out. Hated that Amber was upstairs asleep. I don't blame Gary for not thinking Amber can handle taking care of Leah. She lets her 40 something boyfriend have alone time with her 6 year old daughter? Sorry but she's known him ..what a month? And can't get her lazy ass out of bed to make her daughter breakfast when she only has her overnight maybe one night a week? SMH.  

 

I did hear Catelynn say she thinks Nova and Carly will have a better relationship than Carly will have with B&T. HA! and right there after hearing that delusional remark, Brandon and Theresa should close the adoption. I swear it makes my blood boil (and I'm just a viewer) that Cate and Tyler act like Brandon and Theresa are unimportant baby sitters that Carly won't get attached to or something. BRANDON AND THERESA ARE HER PARENTS, dumbasses!  She will have a very strong bond with them because they are the ones taking care of her every day, they are her security, her fun, they are the people she knows  that love her. They are the ones providing her with memories and fun and love. Not Cate and Tyler. Hell I could show up at B&T's house a few times and play with Carly (hypothetical of course) and she would like me as much as she likes Cate and Tyler because all of us are basically strangers to her!!! I can promise that she doesn't think about Cate and Tyler, she doesn't miss them.  In her life, she knows Theresa is her mom and Brandon is her father. . she won't be around Nova but maybe once a year so biological sisters or not, Nova will always be a stranger to her.  Maybe when she's 18 she will seek out a relationship with Nova but I doubt the two girls are going to have much at all in common except for maybe appearance because they will be raised so differently. Sad but true. Nova just won't have the opportunities and experiences that Carly has/will have.  And for some reason every time they showed Tyler holding Nova and especially his hand supporting her head my heart started pounding in my chest beating very fast like I was afraid he is going to flip out and hurt her. I just have a weird feeling about Tyler snapping and being abusive. And normally when I see dad's holding their newborns it makes me go awww! But with Tyler I don't know why but it strikes me with fear.

 

Maci can have a seat. Tired of her and no Bentley means she should have to exit the show. Her scenes with Taylor were boring. Interesting to see how fast Taylor gets angry with Maci. Trouble in paradise already. Hmmm maybe shouldn't bring a kid into an unstable relationship. What the heck did Maci do with all her money? She should at least be able to afford a decent house with more than one bathroom.. 

 

No words for Farrah.

Edited May 7, 2015 by kira28

[Tatum]

 

Hmmm maybe shouldn't bring a kid into an unstable relationship.

 

But it was a MIRACLE BABY! And you can't say no to that.

 

Even if whatever quack Maci was seeing for a gyno did lead her to believe she would not be able to get pregnant without intervention (as opposed to her intentionally misrepresenting what he/she said), like you could convince us that as desperate as Maci was to get knocked up by Kyle a few years back, she wouldn't have sought out a second opinion or at bare minimum googled "can you get pregnant with PCOS?" and found out that she wasn't as SOL as she thought within 30 seconds?

 

 

And can't get her lazy ass out of bed to make her daughter breakfast when she only has her overnight maybe one night a week? SMH.

 

Ugh, the same girl who was screeching at Gary not too long ago that of course she can handle getting Leah ready for school because she's an amazing mom.

 

All these girls, save for maybe Farrah, are just unbelievably lazy. Like, unbelievable that people with this little ambition or work ethic could actually exist.

[wrestlesflamingos]

I don't know a Dr that would suggest to a MOTHER of 23 years old that she has fertility concerns without a prolonged period of trying without luck. It feels like a big fib.