Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[Boston]

On 3/13/2021 at 6:27 PM, sondraK said:

Thx for that! So cute! Mine had a pink dress.I should get it out of storage and display it like you do,great idea 🙂

I heard once you should replace the word fear with respect,as that's what it really means.Not sure, but it makes sense 🙂

I had the Chrissy doll.. unfortunately pulled the hair all the way out.. she is no more

[Boston]

On 3/13/2021 at 7:15 PM, farmgal4 said:

Because he’s going to send all of us heathens to a BURNING hell!

Just read the news today about the Pope (and I went to Catholic school).. enough with that shit

17 hours ago, Ivonaygirl said:

Yes, they can be especially to people like me who avidly collect!

Ok.. dating myself.  I remember Francie

[Boston]

On 3/13/2021 at 6:27 PM, sondraK said:

Thx for that! So cute! Mine had a pink dress.I should get it out of storage and display it like you do,great idea 🙂

I heard once you should replace the word fear with respect,as that's what it really means.Not sure, but it makes sense 🙂

In a family of Me (girl) and 3 boys.. i loved my dolls.  MrsBeasely was one of my favorites.  wish i still had it

[Scarlett45]

Moderator Announcement:

Please take further discussions of dolls/doll collections not related to the Rodrigues (or other Duggar adjacent families) to Small Talk. You may always quote a poster and state "Taking my reply to small talk."

[GeeGolly]

Is JillR posting on IG?

[YupItsMe]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Is JillR posting on IG?

I’m pretty sure I saw something just a day or two ago.  Let me go check.

Editedto add: 4 days ago she posted about the fear of the Lord being CLEAN. I believe that was discussed up thread. Nothing since.

Edited March 15, 2021 by YupItsMe

[DangerousMinds]

6 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

I have a friend who was just "released" a few days ago. It is entirely possible this happened to Jill. 

I just got released for using the word “coward.” The time before that, I was jailed for saying “pathetic.” It’s ridiculous. Jill has  certainly done something to be jailed for!

[farmgal4]

7 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I hope Jill is in Facebook jail. “Someone “ may have reported a few outrageous posts.

If you’re in FB jail, are you automatically put in IG jail too?

[libgirl2]

5 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

I just got released for using the word “coward.” The time before that, I was jailed for saying “pathetic.” It’s ridiculous. Jill has  certainly done something to be jailed for!

Yes, she has. I also know people who say worse things then she does and they are still around. Its really odd what gets you in the slammer. 

[DangerousMinds]

1 minute ago, farmgal4 said:

If you’re in FB jail, are you automatically put in IG jail too?

I don’t know. I’ve been in fb jail but don’t use IG.

[sondraK]

14 hours ago, Normades said:

What area of Florida do the Kellers live in?  I think they might be near my son and I will be there over Easter weekend.  Just wondering if the Easter Bunny might give me a Rod sighting for Easter. 

You might want to hop away if he does!

Jill will take all the eggs from his basket 😞

Edited March 16, 2021 by sondraK

[ozziemom]

Just saw that Ellie and Addelee Bates were in Florida taking care of Alyssa’s kids for two weeks! I guess they were all on Spring Break from home schooling?They are all girls so I guess it doesn’t really matter. 

[sondraK]

On 3/9/2021 at 1:40 PM, BitterApple said:

Me too. Nobody takes pity on kids with plump cheeks and well-fitted clothing. The Rodlets looking like 19th century orphans is all part of Jill's con. 

Yes,notice Jill never asks for necessities like food and clothing.She needs that to be lacking,so she can grift for big ticket items like vehicles and reno's for the barndo.

She reminds me,in a way,of Jim bob,who only sells big ticket items like houses and cars.These fundies love their money!

 

 

[3 is enough]

12 hours ago, ozziemom said:

Just saw that Ellie and Addelee Bates were in Florida taking care of Alyssa’s kids for two weeks! I guess they were all on Spring Break from home schooling?They are all girls so I guess it doesn’t really matter. 

They were also in Colorado skiing last month.  At this point I guess home schooling is just an afterthought.

 I really feel for the youngest kids in these families.  They are getting an even worse education than their older siblings.  Mom has totally checked out, and the older siblings have families of their own.  They really are just plunked down in front of a computer and left to fend for themselves.

Also, Lawson was back in San Diego last week.  His life really is a permanent vacation, isn't it?  But how does he pay for all these trips?

[BitterApple]

It's funny how Gil and Kelly haven't been down to help Alyssa at all, but they'll be the first ones parking their butts at her pool once it's finished. 

[65mickey]

Evidently Kelly and Gil are joined at the hip. She could have gone to Florida and helped Alyssa with the girls so that Alyssa didn't have to drag them to the new house while construction and painting were going on. The pandemic hasn't stopped this family from traveling for vacations so why not travel to help out her daughter? Leave Gil at home to tend to the preaching and churching for a week or so. Other than Erin it seems like once the girls are married they depend on the in laws for help. 

[Lady Edith]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Evidently Kelly and Gil are joined at the hip. She could have gone to Florida and helped Alyssa with the girls so that Alyssa didn't have to drag them to the new house while construction and painting were going on. The pandemic hasn't stopped this family from traveling for vacations so why not travel to help out her daughter? Leave Gil at home to tend to the preaching and churching for a week or so. Other than Erin it seems like once the girls are married they depend on the in laws for help. 

Because Kelly is there to be a helpmeet to Gil, not the kids. Once they were born and raised, not his problem anymore. And aren’t there (semi) littles at home still?  That’s wimmin’s work.  Not his problem. 

[sondraK]

3 hours ago, Lady Edith said:

Because Kelly is there to be a helpmeet to Gil, not the kids. Once they were born and raised, not his problem anymore. And aren’t there (semi) littles at home still?  That’s wimmin’s work.  Not his problem. 

Yep.That means Gil would have to run the house himself,and he seems like Jim bob;it isn't something he cares to do

[emmawoodhouse]

12 minutes ago, sondraK said:

Yep.That means Gil would have to run the house himself,and he seems like Jim bob;it isn't something he cares to do

Gil certainly plays the daddy buffoon on teevee. But in IBLP videos, he presents quite differently. 

[sondraK]

3 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Gil certainly plays the daddy buffoon on teevee. But in IBLP videos, he presents quite differently. 

Yes,I've always felt the Bates seem down home,southern friendly,but are very different underneath

[farmgal4]

She’s baaaaack, and it’s all about Plexus and politics.  There are no posts about family time, so I think that maybe they really have been sick.

[NotthebadVictoria]

13 hours ago, Lady Edith said:

Because Kelly is there to be a helpmeet to Gil, not the kids. Once they were born and raised, not his problem anymore. And aren’t there (semi) littles at home still?  That’s wimmin’s work.  Not his problem. 

Honestly here I can agree with Kelly not going. It shouldn’t be expected for grandparents to be responsible to come help you with your hoard of kids. They are your kids, your responsibility. I also disagree with sending the Aunt Moms (to be clear). But all of their children when they leave and get married should be on their own, take care of their own children and stfu about how hard it is. I see this all the time where grandparents end up doing the lions share of the work bc the useless parents need “me time” or extra “something”, it’s not right. 
 

and to add: it wasn’t right to make the older girls sister moms either, raise the brood you have yourself or stop breeding.

[thehorseofpower]

1 hour ago, NotthebadVictoria said:

Honestly here I can agree with Kelly not going. It shouldn’t be expected for grandparents to be responsible to come help you with your hoard of kids. They are your kids, your responsibility. I also disagree with sending the Aunt Moms (to be clear). But all of their children when they leave and get married should be on their own, take care of their own children and stfu about how hard it is. I see this all the time where grandparents end up doing the lions share of the work bc the useless parents need “me time” or extra “something”, it’s not right. 
 

and to add: it wasn’t right to make the older girls sister moms either, raise the brood you have yourself or stop breeding.

While I agree it shouldn't be expected for a grandparent to flat out raise their grandchildren, nor should they be expected to drop everything to help with something, I'd like to think most loving parents/grandparents would help their child out with grandkids if the need arose and it was feasible financially/time wise. Especially in an out of the ordinary situation in which the parents are moving and trying to get a new house ready with kids underfoot. If the parents /grandparents have a decent relationship, it just seems like something you do to help each other. The idea that parents are completely on their own and should be able to be completely self sufficient and never ask for help or not have kids at all is a little unfair to me. The whole idea of "it takes a village" has been around for a long time and implies it may not be to a child's benefit to be raised without influences from more than just their parents. There are many places around the world where child rearing involves several generations as the norm, and parents would not expect to do everything without added help from family/communities. This model seems to me much healthier for a family than the idea that everyone is just alone, sink or swim.  I have two children and would frankly be lost without the support I receive from my parents. They are my village.  Could I do it without their help, if I had to? Probably; I know many others parent without regular support from extended family, but life would certainly be worse and more stressful for both me and my kids, and my parents love being involved with their grandkids.  As both parents are required to work outside the home more often nowadays to survive, and day care costs nearly as much as one income in many cases, doing it all completely alone becomes a more difficult and potentially damaging prospect for all involved.

In Kelly's case, she is the one who raised her daughters to be broodmares and gave them no choices for other ways to live their lives. She also used them as unpaid childcare to raise her own children. Given this I find it cruel that she would value her children and grandchildren so little that she would not offer help if they obviously need it. If children and family are the be-all end-all in their religion, then act like it and provide support as their mother and grandmother if able. 

[rue721]

4 minutes ago, thehorseofpower said:

There are many places around the world where child rearing involves several generations as the norm, and parents would not expect to do everything without added help from family/communities. This model seems to me much healthier for a family than the idea that everyone is just alone, sink or swim. 

You said it way better than I could, @thehorseofpower. Totally agree.

It's also great for relationships between grandparents/parents/children to have everyone involved. That's how families get close. I know my grandma was very involved in raising me, and we have had a very special relationship, and I think it also brought her much closer with her daughter (my mother). Even my parents helping with my dog has brought us all much closer!

That said, my parents are much happier to help pick up any slack if I'm doing something that they support and really want for me. So I really don't get why Alyssa's parents aren't being more supportive when she seems to be living exactly the life they wanted her to?

[NotthebadVictoria]

1 hour ago, thehorseofpower said:

While I agree it shouldn't be expected for a grandparent to flat out raise their grandchildren, nor should they be expected to drop everything to help with something, I'd like to think most loving parents/grandparents would help their child out with grandkids if the need arose and it was feasible financially/time wise. Especially in an out of the ordinary situation in which the parents are moving and trying to get a new house ready with kids underfoot. If the parents /grandparents have a decent relationship, it just seems like something you do to help each other. The idea that parents are completely on their own and should be able to be completely self sufficient and never ask for help or not have kids at all is a little unfair to me. The whole idea of "it takes a village" has been around for a long time and implies it may not be to a child's benefit to be raised without influences from more than just their parents. There are many places around the world where child rearing involves several generations as the norm, and parents would not expect to do everything without added help from family/communities. This model seems to me much healthier for a family than the idea that everyone is just alone, sink or swim.  I have two children and would frankly be lost without the support I receive from my parents. They are my village.  Could I do it without their help, if I had to? Probably; I know many others parent without regular support from extended family, but life would certainly be worse and more stressful for both me and my kids, and my parents love being involved with their grandkids.  As both parents are required to work outside the home more often nowadays to survive, and day care costs nearly as much as one income in many cases, doing it all completely alone becomes a more difficult and potentially damaging prospect for all involved.

In Kelly's case, she is the one who raised her daughters to be broodmares and gave them no choices for other ways to live their lives. She also used them as unpaid childcare to raise her own children. Given this I find it cruel that she would value her children and grandchildren so little that she would not offer help if they obviously need it. If children and family are the be-all end-all in their religion, then act like it and provide support as their mother and grandmother if able. 

I’ve just seen this abused way too much and heard the “it’s good for the grandparents”. Meanwhile the parents have all the support they need and the grandparents are run into the ground. They love the kids/grandkids so don’t say no but at some point you have to let them enjoy their own lives and relax. 
 

I have a great relationship with my grandmother and she had no part in raising me or my siblings. Kelly has a ton of kids, even if she didn’t exploit hers when would she have to Help all of her kids/grandkids. Her world ( and all grandparents) should not revolve around what her grown children and their kids need. 

[libgirl2]

1 hour ago, thehorseofpower said:

While I agree it shouldn't be expected for a grandparent to flat out raise their grandchildren, nor should they be expected to drop everything to help with something, I'd like to think most loving parents/grandparents would help their child out with grandkids if the need arose and it was feasible financially/time wise. Especially in an out of the ordinary situation in which the parents are moving and trying to get a new house ready with kids underfoot. If the parents /grandparents have a decent relationship, it just seems like something you do to help each other. The idea that parents are completely on their own and should be able to be completely self sufficient and never ask for help or not have kids at all is a little unfair to me. The whole idea of "it takes a village" has been around for a long time and implies it may not be to a child's benefit to be raised without influences from more than just their parents. There are many places around the world where child rearing involves several generations as the norm, and parents would not expect to do everything without added help from family/communities. This model seems to me much healthier for a family than the idea that everyone is just alone, sink or swim.  I have two children and would frankly be lost without the support I receive from my parents. They are my village.  Could I do it without their help, if I had to? Probably; I know many others parent without regular support from extended family, but life would certainly be worse and more stressful for both me and my kids, and my parents love being involved with their grandkids.  As both parents are required to work outside the home more often nowadays to survive, and day care costs nearly as much as one income in many cases, doing it all completely alone becomes a more difficult and potentially damaging prospect for all involved.

In Kelly's case, she is the one who raised her daughters to be broodmares and gave them no choices for other ways to live their lives. She also used them as unpaid childcare to raise her own children. Given this I find it cruel that she would value her children and grandchildren so little that she would not offer help if they obviously need it. If children and family are the be-all end-all in their religion, then act like it and provide support as their mother and grandmother if able. 

My parents were always there for my son. They baby sat, the watched him when we went to Las Vegas for a few days. When I got divorced they were such a big help. I couldn't have done it without them. I was blessed to have two wonderful parents. When my cousin's husband left her, her parents watched her daughter as she had to take on extra jobs to pay her bills (the jerk took off). I think it is great if they want to do it as long as they aren't being forced 

 

[iwantcookies]

The Rods pay for cable TV even though they are barely home but food for kids isn’t important!

[BradandJanet]

44 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

The Rods pay for cable TV even though they are barely home but food for kids isn’t important!

Well, David likes to sit in the printshop and watch sports on TV. The Rods have priorities, but their children are at the bottom of the list. 

Of course, they might be stealing the cable service. "Master" electrician Shrek may have set that up in the great remodel.

[3 is enough]

The thing that drives me insane about Kelly is how all the kids rave about what a wonderful mother she is, when really all she did was pop out 19 kids.  Sure, she had to do the work with the first bunch, but as soon as those girls were old enough to help she did nothing but give birth and breastfeed.  Her daughters were paired with newborns, and I assume they changed diapers and got up in the night to bring the baby to Mama so she could feed him/her, then she rolled over and went back to sleep.  They cooked, they cleaned, they homeschooled their younger siblings.  What the heck did Kelly do?

So sure, no grandparent is REQUIRED to help out in any way, but most people do it because they want to .  She had all kinds of help raising her kids, and will not return the favor at all?  Yes, I know she has a lot of kids, but right now it seems that only Alyssa needs some extra help.  I suppose in her mind sending the two girls who should be homeschooling IS helping.

I just don't get it. My son knows that all he has to do is ask and I will be there to help. He doesn't take advantage, but I have gone to babysit a few times.  I am fortunate that I have the time and resources to be able to do so, but I also enjoy it.  My daughter and her husband don't have any children but I have helped them out in other ways.  I miss having them around so I will jump at the chance to help and spend some time with them.

It certainly isn't a shock that Kelly and Gil don't really help out, but it is disappointing.

 

Edited March 17, 2021 by 3 is enough

[galaxygirl76]

6 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

She’s baaaaack, and it’s all about Plexus and politics.  There are no posts about family time, so I think that maybe they really have been sick.

Maybe she needed some time to make herself a list of things she's going to get herself with all that money the evil government is giving them. 

[GeeGolly]

I think every family is different and there's no right way to be a grandparent. I saw my grandparents, who lived over an hour away, on holidays for the most part, that was fine. My parents, who never lived more than 15 minutes away, were very involved with my kids. I would have to say though, as far as providing help, it went both ways. I was always there for my parents, as they were for me and my children. My husband's mom lived 6 hours away by car and his father lived 4 hours away by plane. Needless to say, our kids spent more time with my parents. I never had a reason to ask my husband's parents to come help watch my kids. IMO, it would have been costly and inconvenient for them to do so.

I think Kelly sending two of her younger daughters to help was her way of providing help, and the younger daughters probably loved it as well.

[DangerousMinds]

6 hours ago, farmgal4 said:

She’s baaaaack, and it’s all about Plexus and politics.  There are no posts about family time, so I think that maybe they really have been sick.

Any mention of them sending back their many thousands of dollars of socialist stimulus checks?

[laurakaye]

On 3/13/2021 at 8:04 AM, GeeGolly said:

And meanwhile, Carlin and Evan decided to take a trip down memory lane. Evan's old job in Nashville was in a hospital. So yup, they dragged their kid and themselves through the halls of a hospital during a pandemic, for no reason at all.

To do what??  Sight-see?!  What is WRONG with these freaking people?!?

 

On 3/14/2021 at 3:26 PM, BradandJanet said:

When is the overflowing Ladies' Retreat happening?  

The mental image this brought to my mind nearly made me choke-laugh.  

 

On 3/16/2021 at 12:10 PM, 3 is enough said:

They were also in Colorado skiing last month.  At this point I guess home schooling is just an afterthought. 

Also, Lawson was back in San Diego last week.  His life really is a permanent vacation, isn't it?  But how does he pay for all these trips?

I also need an answer.  This just ticks me off.  Not only do these morons travel freely during a national pandemic, but they seem to have unlimited funds with which to do so.  I mean my son works at the resort these fools visited not long ago and it burns my toast that the Bates have been there when I myself haven't yet been able to go!  These people just tra-la-la themselves anywhere they want to go, at any time, and then post 500 oatmeal-colored IG selfies to show us losers how much fun they're having.  It's sickening.

[3 is enough]

According to Alyssa's IG stories Katie has arrived in Florida.

I wonder if she will follow Alyssa, Josie, and Carlin and ditch the modesty wear once she gets married?  She is wearing a red v-neck (not super deep) t-shirt, with a nude camisole under it.  It looks absolutely ridiculous.  Just wear a crew neck if you are really concerned about being modest.  At least you won't look stupid.🙄

[iwantcookies]

2 hours ago, galaxygirl76 said:

Maybe she needed some time to make herself a list of things she's going to get herself with all that money the evil government is giving them. 

Her list is short:

Trashy makeup/jewelry for herself 

Pantry full of food for HUNK

 

 

[sondraK]

9 hours ago, NotthebadVictoria said:

Honestly here I can agree with Kelly not going. It shouldn’t be expected for grandparents to be responsible to come help you with your hoard of kids. They are your kids, your responsibility. I also disagree with sending the Aunt Moms (to be clear). But all of their children when they leave and get married should be on their own, take care of their own children and stfu about how hard it is. I see this all the time where grandparents end up doing the lions share of the work bc the useless parents need “me time” or extra “something”, it’s not right. 
 

and to add: it wasn’t right to make the older girls sister moms ether, raise the brood you have yourself or stop breeding.

My mom wanted to come,so I let her,and I'm glad I did.I found out I really needed her! I had new mom jitters and was worried about every little thing

[libgirl2]

1 hour ago, iwantcookies said:

Her list is short:

Trashy makeup/jewelry for herself 

Pantry full of food for HUNK

 

 

Hey! He isn't just Hunk, he is THE Hunk! 

[ginger90]

[Temperance]

I don't think the grandparents necessarily need to help. I actually know someone who got a job so her kids would quit asking her to babysit so much! That being said it's not appropriate to send the underage teenage girls to help, since they have no say and should be in school. 

[iwantcookies]

I see Jill colored Tim’s hair to match hers.

Poor sap probably spent his birthday grifting a meal.

No having a party/drinks with friends. 

[Westiepeach]

2 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

No having a party/drinks with friends. 

Tim Bits unfortunately has no friends. JillRod makes sure SHE is his everything. 😥

[xwordfanatik]

I pity the poor women who marry any of JillR's sons.  Mother-in-law from hell.  

[Zella]

I guess Timba is still on the shitlist since he didn't even merit a post on the day of his birth. 

[riverblue22]

5 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Any mention of them sending back their many thousands of dollars of socialist stimulus checks?

Apparently some fundie pastors are encouraging members of their congregation to turn over their evil government checks to the church~

[iwantcookies]

11 minutes ago, riverblue22 said:

Apparently some fundie pastors are encouraging members of their congregation to turn over their evil government checks to the church~

You would have to pry it from Jill’s dead hands. Lol that girl doesn’t give anything to the church!

[ginger90]

Screenshot of a video.

Some of what she said:

”Today I want to talk about numbering our days.”

 “We build a little kingdom unto ourself, if you will.”

“The only thing we’re thinking of is what kind of house can I have, what kind of possessions can I have? What can I build for myself, so I can take pride in that?”

“What will the Lord say to us when we bow before him in heaven some day?”

Edited March 18, 2021 by ginger90

[65mickey]

Boy am I glad that my parents weren't the type to feel that after I had children they didn't need or want to help. I don't know what I would have done without their help. And helping adult children with babysitting when needed or picking up the children from school a couple of days a week does not constitute raising the grandchildren.  Now that I'm a grandparent I feel very fortunate to spend time with my grandchild. Everyone is different but I never resent helping my daughter when she needs help.   

[Zella]

Just speaking as someone whose grandparents did step in when my parents were not at their best, I am eternally grateful to them that they didn't hand-wave off mine and my brother's well-being as not their problem. 

 

[iwantcookies]

Hi Jill! If there is a heaven you won’t be allowed in. Neither will THE SEVERELY HANDSOME HUNK. You 2 suck as parents. 

[farmgal4]

15 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

Hi Jill! If there is a heaven you won’t be allowed in. Neither will THE SEVERELY HANDSOME HUNK. You 2 suck as parents. 

Amen!