Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[GeeGolly]

"Our prayer is that we can miraculously pay off our RV soon (we owe just 3 years on it) so that we can more easily pay for the new expenses owning a home will incur. . ."

First, how did they actually qualify for a loan? And second, have they mastered the art of pity so well that they think one of these churches will pass the hat and collect enough to buy them their RV?

[Mollie]

27 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

"Our prayer is that we can miraculously pay off our RV soon (we owe just 3 years on it) so that we can more easily pay for the new expenses owning a home will incur. . ."

First, how did they actually qualify for a loan? And second, have they mastered the art of pity so well that they think one of these churches will pass the hat and collect enough to buy them their RV?

Well, it worked for them before.  This is the free van and trailer they got in 2013:

"Praise God, this is the brand new travel package that God provided for our family. We are so grateful to the dear Christian people that gave willingly to make this a reality for us. What a great God we serve!"

 

 

[lookeyloo]

Anyone in any state can make an anonymous report to Child Protection agencies. I wonder if there have been any complaints along the way. They must have been resolved if so. The systems are overworked and underfunded and a judge would make a determination of abuse and/or neglect after evidence is gathered. Curious. 

[Churchhoney]

12 hours ago, Mollie said:

"Now, I must say that my husband cares deeply about taking the best care of his family as possible and is desperately trying to purchase a house for us asap!"    

posted by Jill, June 12, 2015

 

He didn't want it desperately enough to work for a living, of course. (Nor did she.) But, still, "desperately." Yeah.

God must sure be hot for us to have a lot of malnourished babies. Since he's obviously raining his approval of unbridled child-popping on these two.

Edited April 10, 2017 by Churchhoney

[Catlyn]

On 4/8/2017 at 1:36 PM, RazzleberryPie said:

When vision goes, the flash grows.

Is that it? I noticed my own mother heading to more flashy (I mean shiny) outfits as she got older. 

 

How odd about Anne Boleyn being a Protestant martyr.  She was an exceptionally intelligent woman, but they don't allow their daughters the same opportunities.

[Fuzzysox]

On 4/8/2017 at 9:01 PM, DangerousMinds said:

Who is going to pay for Nurie's "dream wedding?"

We all know the answer.........Jesus of course!!

[Aja]

11 hours ago, lianau said:

I graduated in 2002 and the idea that she's just a few years older than me scares me . 

I graduated in 1993 and the fact that she's five years YOUNGER than I am blows my everloving mind.

[BradandJanet]

The Rods and their contributors likely believe that when Jesus swoops in to set the world right, they will move to the head of the line. So there, haters. There's also something in this theology about wicked people's money being transferred to godly people. However, that makes sense only in the version where the godly people stay on the earth. Regardless of the details, there is serious nose thumbing. The Rodriguii are in it for the big payoff. We should all aspire to be just like them--unskilled, illiterate, tone deaf, and packed in an RV. 

[ariel]

56 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

We should all aspire to be just like them--unskilled, illiterate, tone deaf, and packed in an RV. 

With a fat husband & under feed children.

[Rabbittron]

I must be praying to the wrong God as I hav to work to pay for our needs ?

[BitterApple]

Whenever I've seen pictures of Rodriguii at various Bates/Duggar events, the people they're posing with have looks on their faces like "who the hell let these idiots through the door?". I get the impression the Rodriguii are like the kids who work overtime to be part of the popular click. They try hard but they're never accepted because they're so needy and obvious. I can't imagine who they'll marry Nurie off to. If I were a potential in-law I wouldn't want this family camping out at my house six months out of the year.

[Nysha]

13 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Whenever I've seen pictures of Rodriguii at various Bates/Duggar events, the people they're posing with have looks on their faces like "who the hell let these idiots through the door?". I get the impression the Rodriguii are like the kids who work overtime to be part of the popular click. They try hard but they're never accepted because they're so needy and obvious. I can't imagine who they'll marry Nurie off to. If I were a potential in-law I wouldn't want this family camping out at my house six months out of the year.

 

Which is too bad b/c Nurie seems to be mostly sane and deserves a nice, normal-for-these-people husband.

[Celia Rubenstein]

There are some people here who know every time the Duggars take their plane out, where they go, and how long they stayed ... you know all about their property transactions and their questionable midwife certifications.  You have sleuthed out all the details about that SOS place and it's missioncations. And that's just a partial list.

Can't one of you Columbos find out how the Rodriguii scored that house? I know if you applied yourself you could do it! Because there is a story there and I would REALLY like to know what it is.

[Aja]

19 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

 We should all aspire to be just like them--unskilled, illiterate, tone deaf, and packed in an RV. 

 

18 hours ago, ariel said:

With a fat husband & under feed children.

I can't BELIEVE you people! You are nowhere as good as I am and you will burn in the firey pits of eternal damnation with your atheist, immoral tendency to judge others! SMILE

Edited April 11, 2017 by Aja

[Fuzzysox]

On 4/9/2017 at 10:45 PM, louannems said:

Watching those hair and makeup videos, I can't help but think of how OFTEN JillR states "We want to be a good testimony to the Lord". Why does she need to have her family all matchy and everyone's hair stiff silly with hairspray to let all understand that they really like jesus?

While in bed a theory about her love of makeup came to mind, I wonder if she grew up watching Jim and Tammy Faye thus her love of makeup and JESUS!?

I bet she has an autographed picture of Tammy Faye on her wall in the grandma house. 

[Pinke]

On 2017-04-08 at 0:12 PM, Mollie said:

Yep.  All of that is in this video.

I think Jill R. needs to quit snorting the hairspray.  It's like the nerve endings in her brain are all stuck together.

 

Welp. Guess I'll be sleeping with the lights on tonight.

[Celia Rubenstein]

SMILE!

 

Edited April 11, 2017 by Celia Rubenstein

[MamaMax]

On 4/9/2017 at 8:15 PM, Celia Rubenstein said:

There is just something wrong with the universe when a network will squeeze a whole season out of the months-old wedding (of the fourth kid to get married, no less) like it was Di and Charles 2.0, the highlight being some kind of lame ass manufactured drama about missing flower buckets ... but they will not give the Rodriguii Traveling Circus their own TV show.  IT IS FOR SHAME! 

And please no one try to explain to me why they don't have their own show because NO REASON is good enough.   Not given the shit TLC airs on the regular.  If they can clean up the Duggars good enough to squeeze 900 seasons out of them with all the skeletons in their closet, they could get a couple of seasons out of Jill et. al. before one of the kids goes postal and ruins it all.  

There is no excuse for not giving them a show, TLC.  No excuse! 

It's really saying something when a family is too fucked up and weird even for reality TV.

[Churchhoney]

13 minutes ago, MamaMax said:

It's really saying something when a family is too fucked up and weird even for reality TV.

If I were a TLC lawyer, I'd look at those obviously malnourished children, and think about the months the network would potentially spend filming babies and toddlers sleeping hung up in closets aboard an RV carrying 14 people, and tell my network to run for the hills away from this family. And I suspect that's happened, if they ever were dumb enough to consider putting them on TV.

Yeah, I know that previous TLC families have turned out to have all sorts of issues and bad stuff going on. However, none of those families has had -- going in -- the 1000 percent obvious signs of clear massive multiple child abuse and neglect and who knows what else allegations sticking out all over a dozen children. The other stuff was all hidden enough so that it had to be discovered. All they'd have to do with the Rodriguezes is put them on television for 10 minutes and no discovery would be needed.

It'd be network suicide to put them on -- especially for a network that already has a rap sheet of child sexual abusers that it's filmed at length before some of the truth came out.

[Celia Rubenstein]

2 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

It'd be network suicide to put them on -- especially for a network that already has a rap sheet of child sexual abusers that it's filmed at length before some of the truth came out.

 

Yeah well ... ... ... I know, I know.

But maybe TLC could at least squeeze out a documentary on them.  Maybe a Christmas special!  They love to sing and TLC could make some kind of "plausible deniability" claim when the truth came out ... and only us die-hards here would be the wiser.

[lookeyloo]

4 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

If I were a TLC lawyer, I'd look at those obviously malnourished children, and think about the months the network would potentially spend filming babies and toddlers sleeping hung up in closets aboard an RV carrying 14 people, and tell my network to run for the hills away from this family. And I suspect that's happened, if they ever were dumb enough to consider putting them on TV.

Yeah, I know that previous TLC families have turned out to have all sorts of issues and bad stuff going on. However, none of those families has had -- going in -- the 1000 percent obvious signs of clear massive multiple child abuse and neglect and who knows what else allegations sticking out all over a dozen children. The other stuff was all hidden enough so that it had to be discovered. All they'd have to do with the Rodriguezes is put them on television for 10 minutes and no discovery would be needed.

It'd be network suicide to put them on -- especially for a network that already has a rap sheet of child sexual abusers that it's filmed at length before some of the truth came out.

Anybody can report child abuse and neglect. Anonymously. I wonder if anyone has and if there were investigations. 

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

 

Yeah well ... ... ... I know, I know.

But maybe TLC could at least squeeze out a documentary on them.  Maybe a Christmas special!  They love to sing and TLC could make some kind of "plausible deniability" claim when the truth came out ... and only us die-hards here would be the wiser.

lol

Only for the deaf.

[lianau]

15 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

Anybody can report child abuse and neglect. Anonymously. I wonder if anyone has and if there were investigations. 

Maybe that's the reason for their constant travel . Harder to investigate if you're not a resident .

[Ocean Chick]

So I finally got around to re-reading the Nurie auction site, and you know what stood out for me on the second reading?  JRod goes on and on about how she's taught Nurie from the beginning, and goes on to list all of her virtues (chaste, virtuous, wanting to serve God, wanting Mr. Right, helps with the younger kids, etc), but the one thing she doesn't mention?  Her intelligence.  So does she think Nurie isn't intelligent?  Or is being intelligent a fault in women?  Or just unimportant?  I know if I were a guy, looking for a woman to marry who would be home schoolin' our future kids, I'd truly want her to be as intelligent as possible, for the sake of those kids.

[doodlebug]

15 minutes ago, Ocean Chick said:

So I finally got around to re-reading the Nurie auction site, and you know what stood out for me on the second reading?  JRod goes on and on about how she's taught Nurie from the beginning, and goes on to list all of her virtues (chaste, virtuous, wanting to serve God, wanting Mr. Right, helps with the younger kids, etc), but the one thing she doesn't mention?  Her intelligence.  So does she think Nurie isn't intelligent?  Or is being intelligent a fault in women?  Or just unimportant?  I know if I were a guy, looking for a woman to marry who would be home schoolin' our future kids, I'd truly want her to be as intelligent as possible, for the sake of those kids.

Yeah, but in JillRod's world, a woman's place is in the home serving her husband and you wouldn't want to advertise that the bride-for-sale might be smarter than her potential headship.  Fundies do not value mainstream education, as long as the kid can read well enough to recite from the Bible, that's good enough for them.  Jill and her ilk are not the sort of homeschoolers who want their kids to go above and beyond the typical public school education; they're not going to Harvard, and the idea is to keep them as limited as possible in their worldview and to prepare them for nothing other than to live in their little box.  Educating kids just leads to them dreaming of things outside their own home; that wasn't on the agenda for Nurie and it won't be on the wish list for any potential suitors who make it past her parents' screening.

Jill's many, many posts show how limited and inadequate her own education was; there's no way she could've done any better for Nurie than was done for her.  And, I'm sure if you asked, Jill would brag about how her own homeschooling as a child was superior to anything she could've gotten in a regular school and that her kids were lucky that she taught them the same way she was taught.

ETA: Neither of my parents went to college, my mom dropped out of high school to help support her younger siblings when her father was out of work.  My dad sold vacuum cleaners, my mom was a waitress turned factory worker.  To say that they wanted more for their own kids doesn't begin to describe it.  My mother, when she was still alive, used to call my office just to hear the receptionist say, " Dr. M's office".  She also managed to work into any conversation that one of her daughters was a doctor within the first 5 minutes; no matter where she was or who she was meeting.  It used to really annoy me, but I get it. That 3 of her 6 kids went on to college and got postgraduate degrees was one of the biggest sources of pride in her life, and my dad's.  I feel so sorry for these kids that their parents aren't like mine.

Edited April 12, 2017 by doodlebug

[Ocean Chick]

6 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

And, I'm sure if you asked, Jill would brag about how her own homeschooling as a child was superior to anything she could've gotten in a regular school and that her kids were lucky that she taught them the same way she was taught.

She already does - she has them on film repeatedly thanking her from saving them from having to go to the "evil" public schools where demons would grab their souls and Satan himself would sit at the teacher's desk, and their classmates would be a-smokin' and a-drinkin' and having sex in the aisles.  And where they'd have to share bathrooms with boys dressed as girls, just waiting to molest them.  Safe in their own little RV, they can sit at their fraction of a desk and study Wisdom booklets and the Bible in peace.

[Churchhoney]

19 minutes ago, Ocean Chick said:

So I finally got around to re-reading the Nurie auction site, and you know what stood out for me on the second reading?  JRod goes on and on about how she's taught Nurie from the beginning, and goes on to list all of her virtues (chaste, virtuous, wanting to serve God, wanting Mr. Right, helps with the younger kids, etc), but the one thing she doesn't mention?  Her intelligence.  So does she think Nurie isn't intelligent?  Or is being intelligent a fault in women?  Or just unimportant?  I know if I were a guy, looking for a woman to marry who would be home schoolin' our future kids, I'd truly want her to be as intelligent as possible, for the sake of those kids.

Just a guess but I kinda doubt they'd boast about intelligence in any of the kids. I think that in their faith you're supposed to be obedient to the Lord and not be misled by what you imagine are the bright ideas of your own mind.

So I expect that, while she would never ever brag about a girl's intelligence -- they're supposed to be first and foremost not just obedient to the Lord but to their husband -- she probably wouldn't stress it as a top quality for the boys either. I'd expect to see her brag on the boys' work ethic and godliness and willingness to lead everybody in the way of Christ. But I'd be surprised if she talked about intelligence. I think that, for some reason, they kind of see bragging on intelligence as being the same as putting yourself before God and worshipping something that can lead you in the wrong direction. 

[Mollie]

5 minutes ago, Ocean Chick said:

She already does - she has them on film repeatedly thanking her from saving them from having to go to the "evil" public schools where demons would grab their souls and Satan himself would sit at the teacher's desk, and their classmates would be a-smokin' and a-drinkin' and having sex in the aisles.  And where they'd have to share bathrooms with boys dressed as girls, just waiting to molest them.  Safe in their own little RV, they can sit at their fraction of a desk and study Wisdom booklets and the Bible in peace.

Jill R. says that she wouldn't even send her kids to a private Christian school (even if she could afford that, which she can't) because she couldn't trust the other students at that kind of a school.  She says that they might be a bad influence on her kids.  In other words, she wants her kids kept away from other Christian kids.  Is that possessive or what????????

[sometimesy]

The Duggs have 2 pregnant, one newborn and 2 courtship/relationship thingies... the most interesting thread on their board is Jill Rod.

[doodlebug]

2 minutes ago, sometimesy said:

The Duggs have 2 pregnant, one newborn and 2 courtship/relationship thingies... the most interesting thread on their board is Jill Rod.

You forgot the potentially pregnant newlywed.  But, good point, they are dull, dull, dull.

[RazzleberryPie]

On 4/12/2017 at 4:21 PM, Ocean Chick said:

So I finally got around to re-reading the Nurie auction site, and you know what stood out for me on the second reading?  JRod goes on and on about how she's taught Nurie from the beginning, and goes on to list all of her virtues (chaste, virtuous, wanting to serve God, wanting Mr. Right, helps with the younger kids, etc), but the one thing she doesn't mention?  Her intelligence.  So does she think Nurie isn't intelligent?  Or is being intelligent a fault in women?  Or just unimportant?  I know if I were a guy, looking for a woman to marry who would be home schoolin' our future kids, I'd truly want her to be as intelligent as possible, for the sake of those kids.

No, intelligence is not important for the men nor especially the women. The women are supposed to defer to their headships no matter what anyway, so why encourage thinking, intelligence or education. 

Intelligent women are more threatening to these men than stupid women who will be educating their sons. It's all about control and hierarchy, but the they l don't seem to understand how each generation gets stupider and stupider.

Edited April 14, 2017 by RazzleberryPie

[GeeGolly]

On 4/11/2017 at 5:54 PM, Churchhoney said:

If I were a TLC lawyer, I'd look at those obviously malnourished children, and think about the months the network would potentially spend filming babies and toddlers sleeping hung up in closets aboard an RV carrying 14 people, and tell my network to run for the hills away from this family. And I suspect that's happened, if they ever were dumb enough to consider putting them on TV.

Yeah, I know that previous TLC families have turned out to have all sorts of issues and bad stuff going on. However, none of those families has had -- going in -- the 1000 percent obvious signs of clear massive multiple child abuse and neglect and who knows what else allegations sticking out all over a dozen children. The other stuff was all hidden enough so that it had to be discovered. All they'd have to do with the Rodriguezes is put them on television for 10 minutes and no discovery would be needed.

It'd be network suicide to put them on -- especially for a network that already has a rap sheet of child sexual abusers that it's filmed at length before some of the truth came out.

20 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

lol

Only for the deaf.

One could argue that Honey Boo Boo had a few glaring red flags that TLC and viewers ignored.

And most certainly yes, Jill R and company would be more tolerable with either Closed Captions or hitting the mute button.

[Churchhoney]

59 minutes ago, RazzleberryPie said:

No intelligence is not important for the men or especially the women. The women are supposed to defer to their headships no matter what anyway, so why encourage thinking, intelligence or education. 

Intelligent women are more threatening to these men than stupid women who will be educating their sons. It's all about control and hierarchy, but the they l don't seem to understand how each generation gets stupider and stupider.

And I can't figure out whether this being the case is mostly good news or mostly bad news for the rest of us. 

[MaryAnneSpier]

I've sort of followed the Duggars since 17 Kids and Counting (2008?) because I have some very religious family members who adored this family. I watched one episode, said aloud "This is it? This is a wonderful show that you HAVE to watch?" and never saw it again. But I've read about them since then and had become bored with their whole shtick. The 2015 scandals of course brought my attention back a bit but it has been diminished again.  I also knew about the Bates family but not as much as the Duggars. 

Now I just learned about the Rodriguez family from this forum. Good lord almighty. This is what I'd describe as a scary, disturbing, heartbreaking, cringe-worthy family. I have been reading the forums and watching and reading the links you guys have provided. I enjoy cringe humor usually, but this is just too hard to watch and laugh at. The children are certainly under-fed and malnourished. And don't even get me started on Jill R's jaw-droppingly appalling blogs. If I didn't know better, I would have assumed a 4th grade student wrote them. 

The video that stood out the most, and actually made me cry, was where they were cutting the coconut. Mom gets to savor it, slowly and make yummy noises, while her kids look at her with big eyes and are practically drooling. My mother never had the first bite of anything; in fact she always took the last of the food. She served up everyone else's plates before she did her own, and she still does that to this day even though I'm in my 30s and haven't lived at home in years. That is just something I assumed was instinctive and part of being a parent - you make sure your kids are taken care of, THEN you have what is left. It just was so heartless and rude for the father to film his wife savoring a treat while their underfed kids looked on. 

I'm intrigued by the craziness of the Rodriguez family, but it's almost too hard to look into their lives without crying.

[awaken]

I agree. Very hard to watch. Even their stilted, strange speaking cadence is heartbreaking. They'd never survive in the outside world. 

I'm curious if nurie is short for anything and how they chose it for their firstborn girl?  

[ginger90]

From quick baby names

The name Nurie has the following meaning:

 

 

"Light" or "my fire" in Arabic. Also possibly of Hebrew origin with the same meaning.

This name can be given to both baby boys and girls. It is a unisex name.

[queenanne]

5 hours ago, RazzleberryPie said:

No intelligence is not important for the men or especially the women. The women are supposed to defer to their headships no matter what anyway, so why encourage thinking, intelligence or education. 

Intelligent women are more threatening to these men than stupid women who will be educating their sons. It's all about control and hierarchy, but the they l don't seem to understand how each generation gets stupider and stupider.

And yet, they like, respect, and quite possibly even revere, ministers and missionaries.  Do they think these people ought to be stupid?  The putative spiritual leaders of this world/their movement?  How are they supposed to be smart if they have the IQs of the parents *and* are taught by morons in the bargain?  How are the boys supposed to be intelligent enough to lead households etc., if the schoolmarms doing their teaching have IQs of 90?  I grant nothing would have stopped Abraham Lincoln, but we've clearly found no Lincolns in the Duggars or Rodriguii (shouldn't the tract printer, find it important to spell the tracts properly, for example?  is David supposed to be handing out inferior product so that the unwashed lumpen sinners can be distracted by how Christians are apparently too stupid to know how to spell?  And so on).

3 hours ago, MaryAnneSpier said:

The video that stood out the most, and actually made me cry, was where they were cutting the coconut. Mom gets to savor it, slowly and make yummy noises, while her kids look at her with big eyes and are practically drooling. My mother never had the first bite of anything; in fact she always took the last of the food. She served up everyone else's plates before she did her own, and she still does that to this day even though I'm in my 30s and haven't lived at home in years. That is just something I assumed was instinctive and part of being a parent - you make sure your kids are taken care of, THEN you have what is left. It just was so heartless and rude for the father to film his wife savoring a treat while their underfed kids looked on. 

I'm intrigued by the craziness of the Rodriguez family, but it's almost too hard to look into their lives without crying.

I don't know why one wouldn't *want* to buy things for their children.  I sometimes have to stop myself buying cute little things just because they "remind me" of my friend's kids, and seem like something they'd like.

[riverblue22]

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I don't know why one wouldn't *want* to buy things for their children.  I sometimes have to stop myself buying cute little things just because they "remind me" of my friend's kids, and seem like something they'd like.

 

 

 

I had a coworker who thought nothing of paying full price for outfits for herself and had a collection of very nice jewelry given to her by her husband (on command I am sure).  But this same woman wouldn't spend a cent on clothes for her kids.  Everything they wore was hand-me-downs (many from me).  She wouldn't let them out in the snow because they didn't have boots (which she wouldn't buy).  And they never played sports or any activities that would have cost her time or money.  One turned out fine, the other is a rather strange girl who still treats herself the same way.  Even though she has a decent income, she lives on rice and beans, cheap clothes, and has a futon and lawn chairs in an otherwise empty apartment. (And both children moved far, far away!) 

Edited April 13, 2017 by riverblue22

[GeeGolly]

Fundies are a constant contradiction. Children are blessings, yet God, dads and then moms are to be revered and children are to obey. Love thy neighbor, yet run and get the police when they use a bathroom. Dress modestly, but spend more time on clothing, make-up and hair than the average drag queen (no offense to drag queens).

Don't get me wrong, I've waited until my kids were in bed and then at the last of the ice cream once or twice (from the freezer, not the trash), I may have flipped off a driver or two in my day and I've trashed my bedroom with clothes trying to find the right outfit once or twice. But all those things are few and far between and I don't claim to be the perfect person with perfect beliefs and my goal in life is not to hold myself as an example of the right way to be nor persuade others to live as I do.

[queenanne]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Fundies are a constant contradiction. Children are blessings, yet God, dads and then moms are to be revered and children are to obey. Love thy neighbor, yet run and get the police when they use a bathroom. Dress modestly, but spend more time on clothing, make-up and hair than the average drag queen (no offense to drag queens).

I guess, "Children are blessings, but as Soldiers in the Quiverfull Arsenal of God, and you don't pamper soldiers"???

[riverblue22]

There are many reasons to avoid flying, and here is one more.  I wandered over to Pickles, and found a post from David Waller, who was bragging that he "saved" the guy sitting next to him on the airplane.  If he tried that on some of us, he'd get an earful, I suspect.

[Celia Rubenstein]

3 hours ago, riverblue22 said:

There are many reasons to avoid flying, and here is one more.  I wandered over to Pickles, and found a post from David Waller, who was bragging that he "saved" the guy sitting next to him on the airplane. 

I'm sure the people in the surrounding seats who were stuck listening to that shit the whole flight were thrilled.

I'd rather fly on an over-booked United flight, personally. It would be less painful.

[lianau]

18 hours ago, MaryAnneSpier said:

 

Now I just learned about the Rodriguez family from this forum. Good lord almighty. This is what I'd describe as a scary, disturbing, heartbreaking, cringe-worthy family. I have been reading the forums and watching and reading the links you guys have provided. I enjoy cringe humor usually, but this is just too hard to watch and laugh at. The children are certainly under-fed and malnourished. And don't even get me started on Jill R's jaw-droppingly appalling blogs. If I didn't know better, I would have assumed a 4th grade student wrote them. 

 

Want another scary fundie blogger ? Meet Zsuzsanna  and her kill-everyone-who-doesn't-think-like-I-do husband Steven

[lookeyloo]

5 hours ago, riverblue22 said:

There are many reasons to avoid flying, and here is one more.  I wandered over to Pickles, and found a post from David Waller, who was bragging that he "saved" the guy sitting next to him on the airplane.  If he tried that on some of us, he'd get an earful, I suspect.

We are at the airport waiting to board a cross country flight. No David Waller around but if there were my earphones and sleep mask would go on pretty darn quick!!!

[doodlebug]

1 hour ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

I'm sure the people in the surrounding seats who were stuck listening to that shit the whole flight were thrilled.

I'd rather fly on an over-booked United flight, personally. It would be less painful.

Where is airport security when you really need them to beat the snot out of somebody?

 

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Want another scary fundie blogger ? Meet Zsuzsanna  and her kill-everyone-who-doesn't-think-like-I-do husband Steven

I think that getting oneself expelled from a country where homosexuality is illegal for hate speech against gay people has got to have reached some perverse level of fundie-crazy achievement.  Not just anyone can be that nuts.

Zsuzanna, in addition to her fundieness, believes herself to be somewhat of an expert in holistic medicine/homeopathic remedies.  Her medical advice on the blog is priceless.  First and foremost, nobody should ever go to a hospital to have a baby, ever.

Edited April 13, 2017 by doodlebug

[Sew Sumi]

We can't talk about Zsu or the Pissing Preacher here, as they have never been on the show. That said, Zsu has commented that the Duggars are too "liberal" for her.

[satrunrose]

On 4/12/2017 at 5:36 PM, Ocean Chick said:

She already does - she has them on film repeatedly thanking her from saving them from having to go to the "evil" public schools where demons would grab their souls and Satan himself would sit at the teacher's desk, and their classmates would be a-smokin' and a-drinkin' and having sex in the aisles.  And where they'd have to share bathrooms with boys dressed as girls, just waiting to molest them.  Safe in their own little RV, they can sit at their fraction of a desk and study Wisdom booklets and the Bible in peace.

Dammit! I've been outed! - Miss Saturn_rose aka Satan herself

[Natalie68]

12 hours ago, riverblue22 said:

There are many reasons to avoid flying, and here is one more.  I wandered over to Pickles, and found a post from David Waller, who was bragging that he "saved" the guy sitting next to him on the airplane.  If he tried that on some of us, he'd get an earful, I suspect.

By save does he mean literally?  As in the man was going to rip open the cabin and fling himself out rather than hear one more word?   I admit it, I am snarky and can be quite mouthy with the right circumstances.  If anyone did that to me while I was held captive in a metal tube flying through the air I would either speak to the flight attendant about moving me immediately or I would begin discussing things that boy wouldn't want to hear.  Fucking whippersnapper.  

[riverblue22]

6 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

By save does he mean literally?  As in the man was going to rip open the cabin and fling himself out rather than hear one more word?   I admit it, I am snarky and can be quite mouthy with the right circumstances.  If anyone did that to me while I was held captive in a metal tube flying through the air I would either speak to the flight attendant about moving me immediately or I would begin discussing things that boy wouldn't want to hear.  Fucking whippersnapper.  

No, he saved him in the typical fundie way--who knows, maybe he is more successful in the U.S. than old Derick in Danger America.  He of course posted a picture of himself with the guy. 

[Sew Sumi]

The guy looks less than thrilled.