S05.E08: Wining And Dining

[charming]

Brandi is such a hypocrite. She feels entitled to say whatever she wants. No matter how humiliating, insulting, or vulgar. Then when someone gives it right back to her she cries and tries to be the victim. Jeff joked about getting an STD from her if she ran her hands through his hair. So basically Brandi can talk about Joanna but nobody can talk about her? Bullshit.

 

Get this hag off the show. I've seen every trick in her bag and I'm over it.

[Straycat80]

Oh wow! WWHL was so crazy. Brandi really is pyscho, fake crying and all kinds of B.S.

And Andy babying her. Pathetic! I never liked Jeff Lewis until tonight when he asked if he would get an STD if Brandi ran her fingers thru his hair. And she goes all ballistic when she's done and said things way worse than that!

[LilaFowler]

I am watching the WWHL aftershow.  A caller asked Brandi how she felt about Lisa giving Schaena an upgrade.  Brandi said,"that's what pimps do with their hookers."  She has just now finished with a huge monologue about how much she loves Lisa and Ken and doesn't understand how Lisa can forgive the other women but not her.  Well, you did just call her a pimp...

Edited January 7, 2015 by JacqaloonLaurita

[mbaywife123]

I am watching the WWHL aftershow. A caller asked Brandi how she felt about Lisa giving Schaena an upgrade. Brandi said,"that's what pimps do with their hookers." She has just now finished with a huge monologue about how much she loves Lisa and Ken and doesn't understand how Lisa can forgive the other women but not her. Well, you did just call her a pimp...

Thank You, please keep updating us!

[ToukieSmith]

Charming, I think that was all fake.  Notice that she kept her face covered while she was crying.  Also, her face was not red or streaked when they did get her face in a shot.

[panthergirl13]

I never got the vibe that Brandi was a superfan of Eileen's soaps. 

Brandi herself said, several times, how she was a huge fan of Days...how she grew up watching it (although I think she's using the term 'grew up' loosely here)...how she has never been in a room with someone she watched on TV "her whole life' before, etc. etc.

 

I think soap actors in particular have to be very wary of superfans because bitches be crazy. I don't blame Eileen one bit for being paranoid about someone who seems OTT obsessed with her. 

[charming]

Charming, I think that was all fake.  Notice that she kept her face covered while she was crying.  Also, her face was not red or streaked when they did get her face in a shot.

Oh yeah there was not a bit of water coming out of those eyes.

 

I meant more "crying" and playing the victim.

[LilaFowler]

Jeff was legit pissed.  There is no way I'd believe that was all fake.  Brandi not being able to actually produce tears should be no surprise.  Of course she was just making the noises.  But that wine toss was for real.

[Straycat80]

Charming, I think that was all fake.  Notice that she kept her face covered while she was crying.  Also, her face was not red or streaked when they did get her face in a shot.

Yep, and her make up was still perfect.

[lyric]

Charming, I think that was all fake.  Notice that she kept her face covered while she was crying.  Also, her face was not red or streaked when they did get her face in a shot.

Yeah, that was so damn weird - I kept thinking she was going to turn around laughing ALONG WITH Jeff & Andy - no one was convincing in that whole mess, yet I'm still not sure if they were punking us for ratings or if she was trying to sell that as real emotion...very befuddling and OTT.

[ryebread]

I think what happened on WWHL was authentic. 

[WireWrap]

Is anyone able to view WWHL after show yet? I am really curious about this one. Please!

She turned around from her "crying/weeping" act and not a tear streak to be seen, not 1! It was all an act. Brandi and Jeff are friends, she did that to garner sympathy and nothing more because she knew Jeff would "forgive" her. She is so full of herself it is scary.

Jeff was legit pissed.  There is no way I'd believe that was all fake.  Brandi not being able to actually produce tears should be no surprise.  Of course she was just making the noises.  But that wine toss was for real.

I am not sure Jeff was in on it but Andy was not all that concerned, it was hard for him to not laugh, he started to laugh a few times before she turned her chair back around. Brandi preplanned that wine throw!

[mbaywife123]

She turned around from her "crying/weeping" act and not a tear streak to be seen, not 1! It was all an act. Brandi and Jeff are friends, she did that to garner sympathy and nothing more because she knew Jeff would "forgive" her. She is so full of herself it is scary.

I am not sure Jeff was in on it but Andy was not all that concerned, it was hard for him to not laugh, he started to laugh a few times before she turned her chair back around. Brandi preplanned that wine throw!

thank you, keep it coming!

[LotusFlower]

In the trailer for this season there's a point where Lisa R. says (paraphrasing) "We're dealing with an addict" I'm sorry to say I assumed she was talking about Kim, which bummed me out, because I don't want to see Kim fail again. Now, I'm thinking she might be talking about Brandi. Tricky editors!

Every other shot in tonight's show was a shot of Brandi downing a gulp of wine. The editors knew what they were doing. Brandi's an alcoholic. No excuse whatsoever for her vile behavior. The wine toss. The incredibly rude and crass comment to Babyface's wife. The crass finger f*cking comment. She's a nasty drunk and a bitch. Sadly, this seems to be the kind of drama Bravo loves. I just hope she offends enough people that they stop including her in things. I don't know what else would get her off this show.

[zoeysmom]

Aviva refused to go on any "away" trips without her husband, Brandi is more than will to go anywhere, do anything to/with anyone on camera for the producers. As long as Brandi is willing to bring it for and with the producers, they will keep her......UGHHHhhhhhhh.  I just wish the other women would refuse to film with her but as long as Yolanda and Kim play kissy face with her Bravo will keep her on.

Show Kim the door with Brandi.  

[Talented Tenth]

I feel like I was being punk'd watching WWHL.  

[mbaywife123]

Show Kim the door with Brandi.

kim needs to fade into the sunset. Brandi needs to get the boot up the ass but good!

[charming]

Did I actually hear Brandi say to Lisa V when you pulled away, Ken did too. The delusion is strong. Did she think Ken was going to continue to associate with her if Lisa wasn't?  Why did she describe Ken and Lisa like her parents but then complains about Lisa Mothering her? Why does she insist that she loves them when she lead the coup against them last season? What does she do to people she hates?

 

Love that Kim thinks Brandi's actions are fine because she apologizes later. Can't wait for her irrelevant and hypocritical ass to be off the show too.

 

Was Brandi too drunk to realize how successful Babyface is? He can afford whatever jewelry his wife wanted. What business is it of hers to ask to see a ring, then mock it in front of everyone. She's creepy. She's now at the Danielle Staub and Taylor Armstrong level of needing psychological help away from Bravo TV.

[HumblePi]

Brandi needs to have the makeup person for the show put some concealer on the purple vein that's showing on her left breast. I saw it a few times when she's narrating in front of the camera with her deep cleavage on display, the vein shows. (pay attention to the boob veins Brandi!)

.....just sayin'

[Mondrianyone]

It seems like the most logical housewife deathmatch would be Brandi vs Ramona....cocktails at 10 paces.

 

But Ramona gets to bring along her oar, to make up for the height/reach differential.

 

And when did Yolanda lose her voice for two years?  Is this some new ailment, or did I miss it somehow?  Either way, toasting your guests by taking the opportunity to kvetch at length yet again about all your illnesses is one more tip for her lifestyle show.  (And the more the maladies pile up, the more skeptical I'm getting about them.)

[Persnickety1]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Brandi say in the First Look episode something along the lines that she was upset because Ken turned his back on her while she & Lisa were having issues some time ago?  Sounded like she expected Ken to remain friends with her even if she & Lisa were having problems.  That's rather delusional of Brandi (if I understood her correctly.)  I think she was so shocked that Lisa apologized about Scheana, she didn't know what to do next.  Honestly though, I've forgotten most of what they're mad about, but I think Lisa is smart to tread lightly when going forward with her relationship with Brandi.

 

I like seeing her in anything other than white!  She sure owns a lot of white shirts and pants! 

 

Lisa is shrewd and knows when to step away from the crazy.

 

This is the exact same approach she utilized at the Tea Party from Hell when Taylor went batshit berserk on her.

 

Just apologize and keep that potential threat at arm's length.

 

Strategic...And I like it.  Well played both times, Lisa.  

Edited January 7, 2015 by Persnickety1

[Lillybee]

I am kinda hoping that Brandi throws a glass of wine at The Donald on CA.

[Persnickety1]

Brandi's reaction after she threw the drink in Eileen's face is irrelevant. Eileen's reaction tells me this was not something she was expecting, thus the shocked reaction. 

 

That said, if Brandi didn't have her consent before, then it is more of Brandi trying to stay relevant by doing shocking things. Aa always, at the expense of her co-workers. 

 

Brandi undoubtedly saw all of the attention Ramona garnered after she threw her drink at Kristen when they were boating.

 

Leave it to Brandi to play a childish game of "monkey see, monkey do."

 

I just loathe her.  Hell, I'll take Taylor back at this point.  At least she was snarkworthy.  Brandi, on the other hand, is just repugnant.  

[izabella]

The commentary between [Lisa R] and Eileen on Brandi was really incisive and bitchy in an impressively stealth way. They managed to affect the pretense of concern and "I'm just so worried about the object of my smack talk" underhandedness with much more sincerity than some of their fellow thespian-cum-Housewives predecessors (hi, Heather Dubrow!), all while managing to slip in some really cutting lodestar adjectives: "creepy," "bizarre," "crazy." I guess it helps to be a (talented) actress.

 

I agree - that was so masterfully done, and well-deserved.

 

I liked Yolanda's pool area.  Have we seen that before? 

[RedheadZombie]

I think what happened on WWHL was authentic. 

 

I kind of agree.  I am by no means a Brandi fan, but if that comment was said to someone HIV positive, folks would lose their mind.  If Jeff truly wasn't aware of Brandi's STD, then his comment was simply insensitive. 

[mbaywife123]

I kind of agree. I am by no means a Brandi fan, but if that comment was said to someone HIV positive, folks would lose their mind. If Jeff truly wasn't aware of Brandi's STD, then his comment was simply insensitive.

But please remember that Brandi is the one that brought it up in her book that her ex gave her the "gift" (HPV) that keeps on giving.

[suomi]

I think one of the best lines during the Eileen/Lisa R side convo was Lisa's "I like her ... But She's Nuts."

[Almost 3000]

Eileen was wearing a hat when she arrived and her hair looked limp and dull where it usually has those loose barrel curls and is shiney. Speculation...

[LotusFlower]

I kind of agree.  I am by no means a Brandi fan, but if that comment was said to someone HIV positive, folks would lose their mind.  If Jeff truly wasn't aware of Brandi's STD, then his comment was simply insensitive.

So Brandi can rant in the gutter about others, like the embarrassing Joanna Krupa comment (which was not a joke, btw), but Jeff can't joke about an STD during a game?

[ryebread]

She turned around from her "crying/weeping" act and not a tear streak to be seen, not 1! It was all an act. Brandi and Jeff are friends, she did that to garner sympathy and nothing more because she knew Jeff would "forgive" her. She is so full of herself it is scary.

I am not sure Jeff was in on it but Andy was not all that concerned, it was hard for him to not laugh, he started to laugh a few times before she turned her chair back around. Brandi preplanned that wine throw!

Brandi totally planned the wine throw but I believe she only planned it between the time Jeff said what he did about her STD and the time she actually threw it.  She sat through some calls and the stupid penis game, Paint-ionary and a couple commercials after he said it. After Paintionary, they came back from a commercial break - if you DVRd it watch Jeff's face.  He was mugging and uncomfortable.  Then she throws the wine and it's revealed that they'd been talking about the STD remark over the break.  Jeff says, "I can't believe I defended you." (In re: to Eileen) and she said, under her breath while turning away, "I can't believe I cared about you."  Because yes, they had been friends.  I dont' know how close, but I saw a picture or two on Twitter of them hanging out.  Then it got really weird.  Brandi's demeanor changed, Jeff looked really uncomfortable and said so and asked if it was almost over.  Andy signs off, the audience starts cheering as they do, Brandi swings her chair back around toward Jeff (she'd been facing Andy with her hand blocking her face from the cameras) leans in and says, "You're a fucking asshole."  You can't hear her say it because of the audience, but it's clear as day.

 

I think that was real.  Awesome.  Except for the penis game and Paintionary.

[LotusFlower]

I think it was real, too. Brandi is mentally unstable.

[mbaywife123]

Brandi totally planned the wine throw but I believe she only planned it between the time Jeff said what he did about her STD and the time she actually threw it. She sat through some calls and the stupid penis game, Paint-ionary and a couple commercials after he said it. After Paintionary, they came back from a commercial break - if you DVRd it watch Jeff's face. He was mugging and uncomfortable. Then she throws the wine and it's revealed that they'd been talking about the STD remark over the break. Jeff says, "I can't believe I defended you." (In re: to Eileen) and she said, under her breath while turning away, "I can't believe I cared about you." Because yes, they had been friends. I dont' know how close, but I saw a picture or two on Twitter of them hanging out. Then it got really weird. Brandi's demeanor changed, Jeff looked really uncomfortable and said so and asked if it was almost over. Andy signs off, the audience starts cheering as they do, Brandi swings her chair back around toward Jeff (she'd been facing Andy with her hand blocking her face from the cameras) leans in and says, "You're a fucking asshole." You can't hear her say it because of the audience, but it's clear as day.

I think that was real. Awesome. Except for the penis game and Paintionary.

I think she said something along the line of go fuck yourself.

[mbaywife123]

Damn, I am now wishing I would have DVR'd this!

[ryebread]

I liked Yolanda's pool area.  Have we seen that before? 

Yes, it's been on before.

 

Two things I know a lot about.  Swimming pools and toasting marshmallows.

 

Yolanda's pool is awesome.  Beautiful and very expensive.  But her marshmallow roasting 'sticks' were for shit.  You don't give people 8" metal shrimp skewers to toast marshmallows.  First of all, they get hot as hell.  Not only will they burn your hand, but the marshmallow, once it gets melty starts twirling on the end and will fall off.  Second of all, sticks that short - that in no way were made for that - are a pain in the ass because your guests have to lean WAY in to get to the fire and their hands and face get too close to the heat.  Some kind of hostess you are, Yo. ;-)  Come over to my pool and fire pit and I'll show you how it's done.  I'll give you the perfect stick that you can lean back in your chair while roasting your mallow, and you can twirl it to your heart's content without fear of being burned or losing it in the fire. 

 

And I won't demonstrate my modeling moves for your enjoyment.  She's a silly vommen.

[Katesus7]

Here's my thoughts on all reality shows.  There have been no true "reality" shows since about Season 3 of The Real World.  I realize this, and therefore view these shows as entertainment, and I view these women as fictional characters on a fictional show, although I do take into consideration their blogs and tweets/other social media nonsense if they are brought up.  I don't really give a crap who these people are in their real life.

 

Although Eileen and Lisa R. going into the house to compare notes about how batshit crazy Brandi was?  THAT was reality TV to me.  Loved it!

 

That being said, Brandi is overplaying her hand in a big way.  She thinks every single thing she is doing is funny to her audience.  She also thinks she still is the sympathetic character with her audience vs. Lisa V.  She needs to learn to read a room.  And, the throwing the "drink" at poor Eileen was clearly calculated.  She sucked up as much wine as she could out of that glass before she threw it.  What she didn't count on was Eileen having a legitimate reaction.  Man, I felt so bad for Eileen.  She was stunned, she was horrified, she didn't know what to think.  Huge mistake there, Brandi.  No one bought your "Well, she's a cheater so obviously I was feeling that, and therefore justified".   Not after Eileen explained how she was very upfront with her husband at the time AND is close with her current husband's ex-wife.  Absolutely nothing for Brandi to latch onto, so she just made up things to latch onto.  As she does.

 

I didn't care about Brandi's meeting with Lisa V. because I stopped caring about Lisa V. when she once AGAIN talked about women ganging up on her.  Stop it, Lisa, stop! But Brandi still looked like an ass.

 

Once again, Lisa V. and Kyle are right next to each other at a party and are clearly seen getting along with each other perfectly.  Can we just get the inevitable scene of those two "making up" already, because I'm bored by this supposed feud.  Same with Mauricio and Ken, although Ken was smart enough not to show up tonight.

 

I'm not sure what Yolanda's intent was with the scene with Bella, but all I took out of it is that if you get really, stupidly drunk and get arrested, hopefully you're a good model, because then all will be forgiven.  Or something.
 

[hottesthw]

So Brandi can rant in the gutter about others, like the embarrassing Joanna Krupa comment (which was not a joke, btw), but Jeff can't joke about an STD during a game?

An STD that we only know about because she put it out to the world in her book. It was fascinating enough for her to talk about but noone else?

I got the impression all thru the show that Andy is not a fan of Brandi's.

God I hope that Eddie guy fights to take those boys away from her. And i hope he wins his alimony money back.

I could sit and watch Eileen and Lisa smack talk people all day long. So far I'm liking the new additions. They class things up a bit. With the exception of the 2 drunks, we're finally getting a peek at how BH lives (house porn etc). Yolanda is annoying at times but I could watch an hour of her tinkering around her house and closets and pool and grounds. As kyle would say, yea I'm jelly.

[ryebread]

Damn, I am now wishing I would have DVR'd this!

Set it for 1:30 a.m.  Repeat!

[mbaywife123]

Set it for 1:30 a.m. Repeat!

Thank You!

[missyb]

Brandi herself said, several times, how she was a huge fan of Days...how she grew up watching it (although I think she's using the term 'grew up' loosely here)...how she has never been in a room with someone she watched on TV "her whole life' before, etc. etc.

 

I feel like Brandi's constantly mentioning how big a fan she is of Days and how she has been watching since she was a teenager, is her way of saying, you are so much older than I am. I feel is is not awe and fandom but rather Brandi trying to take a shot at the "new girl".

[ryebread]

An STD that we only know about because she put it out to the world in her book. It was fascinating enough for her to talk about but noone else?

I got the impression all thru the show that Andy is not a fan of Brandi's.

But that's why she was so upset with Jeff.  In the book she talks about how devastated she is that she got an STD. (I'm not entirely convinced Eddie gave it to her and not vice versa)  Jeff and Brandi are supposedly friends, IRL.  So when he asked if he could get an STD from her running her fingers through his hair, she got upset.  I can understand that.  (That said...wahh, wahh, Brandi.)  I think it took her a minute to realize how hurt she was and took the next few minutes to concoct her revenge. 

 

And I get the opposite impression about Andy's feelings about Brandi.  He was babying her and seemed really sympathetic.  I think that his laughter, was nervous laughter when she was crying (and I'm not sure about if she really did or not - although props to her if she was acting because her voice cracked a couple times) because it appeared to me like he didn't know if she was joking or not. 

[RedheadZombie]

But please remember that Brandi is the one that brought it up in her book that her ex gave her the "gift" (HPV) that keeps on giving.

 

Yes, she is the one who put the information out there.  Magic Johnson told the world he's HIV positive, that doesn't mean people should joke about getting it by touching him. 

 

So Brandi can rant in the gutter about others, like the embarrassing Joanna Krupa comment (which was not a joke, btw), but Jeff can't joke about an STD during a game?

 

I don't care where Brandi is ranting - she's no friend of mine. Jeff can say anything he pleases, and I'm allowed to have an opinion about it.  If he was HIV positive and Brandi made a joke about contracting it by him touching her, I think it might be viewed a little differently.  I don't have an STD, but I know people and patients who do.  They are tired of being treated like amoral cesspools who are as untouchable as lepers.  Brandi was an asshole for saying what she did about Joanna Krupa.  Do not paint me as a Brandi defender - I have never once liked her, and I want her off the show.  But I don't have two different standards in how I treat people.  One for those who are my equal, and the other for those I feel beneath me.   So yes, it was inappropriate comment.

 

 

[HumblePi]

But Ramona gets to bring along her oar, to make up for the height/reach differential.

 

And when did Yolanda lose her voice for two years?  Is this some new ailment, or did I miss it somehow?  Either way, toasting your guests by taking the opportunity to kvetch at length yet again about all your illnesses is one more tip for her lifestyle show.  (And the more the maladies pile up, the more skeptical I'm getting about them.)

I contracted Lyme disease back in 2001 and dammit until I heard Yolanda going on about it, I had no idea how I could milk that for all it's worth.  I wonder if it's too late for me to start now?

Edited January 7, 2015 by HumblePi

[LotusFlower]

She also thinks she still is the sympathetic character with her audience vs. Lisa V.

Right. Lisa said she needed to hear an apology, and Brandi's response: Will you apologize to me? Always a victim. Then notice when she talks to Eileen to "apologize" for throwing the wine, she then transitions to what a hard day she was having b/c of it, her anxiety, she was crying, etc... Again, making herself the victim. Jesus.

At least the prevailing sentiment on Twitter seems to be 100% anti-Brandi re: WWHL. The consesus seems to be that she can dish it out, but can't take it.

[Almost 3000]

The thread for Watch What Happens Live is here:

http://forums.previously.tv/topic/4647-all-episodes-talk-andy-serving-drinks-and-quizzing-guests/page-6#entry701942

 



[RedheadZombie]

Is this the first time Yolanda has said she couldn't speak for two years?

[mbaywife123]

Yes, she is the one who put the information out there. Magic Johnson told the world he's HIV positive, that doesn't mean people should joke about getting it by touching him.

I don't care where Brandi is ranting - she's no friend of mine. Jeff can say anything he pleases, and I'm allowed to have an opinion about it. If he was HIV positive and Brandi made a joke about contracting it by him touching her, I think it might be viewed a little differently. I don't have an STD, but I know people and patients who do. They are tired of being treated like amoral cesspools who are as untouchable as lepers. Brandi was an asshole for saying what she did about Joanna Krupa. Do not paint me as a Brandi defender - I have never once liked her, and I want her off the show. But I don't have two different standards in how I treat people. One for those who are my equal, and the other for those I feel beneath me. So yes, it was inappropriate comment.

Readheadzombie, I dont't disagree with you, times have changed (Internet, ect,) since Magic came out with his HIV status and Brandi came out with her HPV. It would have been interesting if the Internet was as big when Magic had announced his HIV as social study topic.

Edited January 7, 2015 by mbaywife123

[LotusFlower]

 

I don't care where Brandi is ranting - she's no friend of mine. Jeff can say anything he pleases, and I'm allowed to have an opinion about it.  If he was HIV positive and Brandi made a joke about contracting it by him touching her, I think it might be viewed a little differently.  I don't have an STD, but I know people and patients who do.  They are tired of being treated like amoral cesspools who are as untouchable as lepers.  Brandi was an asshole for saying what she did about Joanna Krupa.  Do not paint me as a Brandi defender - I have never once liked her, and I want her off the show.  But I don't have two different standards in how I treat people.  One for those who are my equal, and the other for those I feel beneath me.   So yes, it was inappropriate comment.

I don't disagree with you, but I hate Brandi and haven't read her books, so I had no idea about the STD, and Jeff said he didn't either. Are we all supposed to know this detail about her?

[Lemondrop 16]

Show Kim the door with Brandi.  

Wait, wait. There's a Kim on the show?

[Almost 3000]

Wait, wait. There's a Kim on the show?

Why yes there is and as of tonight we know her hair looks great and Brandi thinks she lost weight, oh and she showed up.

[Persnickety1]

Jeff was legit pissed.  There is no way I'd believe that was all fake.  Brandi not being able to actually produce tears should be no surprise.  Of course she was just making the noises.  But that wine toss was for real.

 

Yeah, and neither Tamra nor Gretchen from OC can eek out a tear, either.  I think all of those fillers and Botox these heifers get must constrict their tear ducts or something that prevents an actual, you know, TEAR like normal (non-injected with plastic and toxins) people get.

 

All they have left is a horribly, horribly ugly "dry cry face."

 

*shudder*