S03.E10: Bachelorette Beach Party

[bosawks]

I never though I'd see a walking, talking Superfund site.  I was wrong.

Edited January 6, 2015 by bosawks

[lasandi]

Sandoval's the one who wears concealer, shaves his forehead, uses a flat iron, and broke up with Kristin.

Yep, I love ol FI Tom too.

[Duke2801]

Jax and Vail - so predictable it's not even worth mentioning. That girl is so stupid. Is there like another Princeton, besides the Ivy League one? Like "Princeton, Ohio School of Makeup"? Because yea, she's really dumb. Jax was using reverse psychology on her - "I'm so horrible, I'm as bad as they all say. You don't want a guy like me". And it was totally working - "Oh, no, you can't be THAT bad." Yikes.

 

 

IKR?  When I heard that Vail was actually educated and had a legitimate career before coming on the show, I was thinking she might be a breath of fresh air.  Ummm.... not so much.  In fact, she is coming across as perhaps the most vapid and annoying of all the ladies on the show.  And that is saying something!  

 

On another note... DaFUQ was Scheanna wearing on the boat?  The comically large white bikini bottom that could easily double as an adult diaper combined with her "Captain Stubing from the Love Boat" hat was just tragic. 

Edited January 6, 2015 by Duke2801

[Ubiquitous]

Wait, so was Jax and Tom's conversation at the bar proof that Tom cheated? Tom saying "As my friend, I shouldn't have to ask you to lie for me." I'm confused if he's mad that Jax didn't lie and say nothing happened and maybe even Tom is lying about hearing Jax cheating as a "taste of his own medicine."

Yeah, I didn't see anything particuarly incriminating either. Methinks DJ Muppet Busboy was just grasping for anything that would get Kristen riled up.

[ghoulina]

I thought Kristen was glowering at her ex, not DJ Muppet Busboy, but it was funny how little attention James seemed to be given to her.

 

Yea, that's what I said - that she was giving nasty looks to Tom, not James. Sorry if I wasn't clear! It just didn't even seem like they were a couple. He's gabbing with some other girl, and she's stuck in the past, jealous and bitter over Tom and Arianna. 

 

I haven't watched WWHL yet - what else did Kristen say?

 

She said she sees a therapist and she does not have BPD, she's just like any other girl who got dumped by her boyfriend. Because, you know, we all refuse to change our address for half a year, so we can drop by and pick up our mail while wearing a boobalicious cocktail dress and cry in front of our exes. Totally normal. 

[butterflyeludesme]

Okay a few comments...

 

Why in the world did they even have the Pandora segments?! She was "managing" Pump and couldn't go to Miami because everyone else went? NONE OF THEM EVEN WORK AT PUMP! Not one! SUR obviously still had Peter managing it so where was the missing Pump manager and staff? This makes no sense and was utterly a waste of time. 

 

Can I also add that I hate the chef at Pump just because I hated her on The Next Food Network Star. 

 

The gist I get from the Jax/Tom S. conversation at the bar was that this whole situation was made up by Tom S. because Jax was going around telling all of the Toms' secrets and he wanted him to "have a taste of his own medicine" and realize that what he was doing was against "bro code". Am I getting that right?

 

Stassi is pointless. 

 

Scheana should never wear that purple lipstick ever again. 

[Vivigirl10]

Pandora bugs.  The staff for certain was extremely excited to have the daughter of the owner come in to boss them around for a few hours.  Not sure, but maybe others missed the "expert" advice she was able to provide with such gems as, "we're going to have to make sure the appetizers are out within ten minutes"!  You tell them Panda face!

 

Good Lord, what the hell happened to Scheanna's teeth and/or lips?!!  New veneers?  Lip injections? 

 

I really noticed last night how flat in the back and tiny Jax's head is.  Obviously indicating that there is no room inside for even the most average sized brain. 

 

I think that one reason he's able to get away with so much crap with the ladies is his voice.  It's very unintimidating....almost boyish.  It doesn't go at all with his evil persona. 

 

Bring on the gay!  Bring on the gay prostitution!

[charmed1]

I'm going to speculate that Vail may still be friendly with Eileen Davidson and Eileen maybe called in a favor for her to get on this show. It's probably the best gig Vail can get at this point.

Edited January 6, 2015 by charmed1

[Ubiquitous]

Why in the world did they even have the Pandora segments?! She was "managing" Pump and couldn't go to Miami because everyone else went? NONE OF THEM EVEN WORK AT PUMP! Not one! SUR obviously still had Peter managing it so where was the missing Pump manager and staff? This makes no sense and was utterly a waste of time. 

 

Can I also add that I hate the chef at Pump just because I hated her on The Next Food Network Star. 

I had to laugh at Lisa Vanderbucks fretting about word getting out about Pump and driving customers away. I don't recall what I saw on Yelp being all that great.

 

The chef at Pump was a Food Network show contestant? Uh-oh!

Pandora bugs.  The staff for certain was extremely excited to have the daughter of the owner come in to boss them around for a few hours.  Not sure, but maybe others missed the "expert" advice she was able to provide with such gems as, "we're going to have to make sure the appetizers are out within ten minutes"!  You tell them Panda face!

Heh. Lisa Vanderbucks seemed so proud of her daughter, too!

[Persnickety1]

I said something offensive earlier that I want to apologize for. I said that with his head wound, Jax looked half Vulcan. I meant to say he looks half-Klingon. I apologize to the Vulcan community.

I don't believe his convoluted story of running into a plate glass window because he was getting a parking ticket. That's something parakeets do, and Jax doesn't have the intelligence of a parakeet. I think either he got drunk or high and fell on the side of the bathtub, or one of his lovers threw a glass at his face again.

 

I wondered if he had slammed his head into something on purpose to get pain meds from the ER for the trip.  Just overdid it a little and ended up needing stitches, too.  Not saying it for sure about Jax, but I've been in the medical field a lot of years and people will most assuredly hurt themselves to get access to opiates.  

 

Dude looked seriously high as that proverbial fucking kite all through this episode and was even jaw-clenching in a couple of scenes.

 

Probably needed a little opiate assistance to come back down.  

[goofygirl]

There were some SERIOUSLY funny bits  in this latest ep.  FI Tom almost forgetting to pack his flat iron.  The whole sleeping situation between the 2 Toms & Jax.  Jax's bare ass. Pandora's comment to Lisa about changing diapers. Kristin's face at that dinner. AND..... NO FRICKIN' stASSi!!!!!!  Thank you Jesus!

[ExplainItAgain]

The chef at Pump was a Food Network show contestant? Uh-oh!

 

Yes! One of the worst contestants ever, Penny Davidi.

[Otherkate]

And we have the return of pouty Sandoval! My favorite of all the Tom personalities. Hey, you would pout too if Jax changed his plans at the last minute, resulting in him cock-blocking your bromantic weekend with Schwartzie-poo. 

 

 

 

Pouty Sandoval is the cure for all that ails me, I swear to god.

 

So much goodness in this episode. Sandoval almost forgetting his flat iron; Jax telling us that he literally ran into a pane of glass like a confused bird; James and Kristin conspiring like a totally normal couple (yeah right); no Stassi; Scheana's absurd boat outfit; Scheana's lipstick; Pandora barking out completely useless orders while Lisa stalks her all night instead of just managing herself; Jax in the shower; the two Toms spooning each other like crazy. And now you're telling me that we're going to get some dish about Jax being a rentboy and Sandoval sobbing like a baby into crazy ass Kristin's arms? Omg, this is the best show on television. 

[essinad]

Why did Jax look so greasy on the shuttle from the airport? Blecch! He is repulsive in every way.

[Fuzzysox]

I wondered if he had slammed his head into something on purpose to get pain meds from the ER for the trip.  Just overdid it a little and ended up needing stitches, too.  Not saying it for sure about Jax, but I've been in the medical field a lot of years and people will most assuredly hurt themselves to get access to opiates.  

 

Dude looked seriously high as that proverbial fucking kite all through this episode and was even jaw-clenching in a couple of scenes.

 

Probably needed a little opiate assistance to come back down.  

I'm not in the medical field but have spent my life in and around doctors and hospitals and I completely agree Jax may be on the hunt for drugs and is hurting himself to get some. 

 

When he had his nose surgery he wanted Vics. He already had them on the nightstand--the generic version of them and he seemed to be jonesing bad. Hell I had surgery last week and come home with scripts that I filled never took not one since I had no pain so why take something I didn't need? I was back up the next day doing laundry and not being a cry baby like Jax.

Edited January 7, 2015 by Fuzzysox

[FozzyBear]

Jax to me is the aging "model" that is turning tricks on the side to keep up his "habits." No way can they be making a living off of bartending.

.

To borrow an old fashioned term for a very particular brand of hooking, I think Jax always has a sponsor. As in, Jax always has somebody who pays the bulk of his bills. Even Stassi admitted he pretty much just came home with her one night and never left and never paid for anything around the house. While I do think real-ish relationships sneak in there, I have no doubt that Jax has provided the boyfriend experience to the highest bidder(male or female) when he needed to. This is no surprise in anyway. What I want to know is if Sandoval was doing the same thing while they were rooming together in Miami.

[OnceSane]

"Let's make some bad decisions!" Oh Jax, you already have that covered.

But FI Tom had the line of the night: " You don't need to be fucking Matlock to solve this mystery". First, he knows who Matlock is. Second, great line. Third, FI Tom knows who Matlock is! Who woulda thunk?

Next week looks epic.

[Persnickety1]

Here is a picture of Jax with the man with whom he was rumored to have been involved.

 

Does it look like the same man (but a bit older) in next week's previews who is professing that he loves Jax as much now as he ever did?

 

I couldn't tell in the dim lighting if it was the same man or perhaps yet another man from Jax's past.  

 

Edited January 6, 2015 by Persnickety1

[Duke2801]

"Let's make some bad decisions!" Oh Jax, you already have that covered.

But FI Tom had the line of the night: " You don't need to be fucking Matlock to solve this mystery". First, he knows who Matlock is. Second, great line. Third, FI Tom knows who Matlock is! Who woulda thunk?

Next week looks epic.

 

I highly suspect that the producers feed them some of those clever lines they spout in their talking heads.  But I agree it's still a great line regardless!!

[The Mighty Peanut]

"Let's make some bad decisions!" Oh Jax, you already have that covered.

But FI Tom had the line of the night: " You don't need to be fucking Matlock to solve this mystery". First, he knows who Matlock is. Second, great line. Third, FI Tom knows who Matlock is! Who woulda thunk?

Next week looks epic.

That was my first thought as well, but you never know -- there could be a mactor at Sur who goes by Matlock and is fucking one of the cast. ;)

[ScoobieDoobs]

Why did Jax look so greasy on the shuttle from the airport? Blecch! He is repulsive in every way

 

 

When doesn't he look greasy?  While I'm not into his looks either, I'm thinkin' it's his way of behaving dat makes him so repulsive to so many.  But not everyone sees Jax as repulsive.  Tiffany was still taking his crap & so was Carmen -- er, huh?  Wtf is wrong with you, Carmen?  Well, if we're to believe Jax -- which is pretty difficult, given that he lies about everything, all da fuckin' time.

 

Yeah, I was tempted to post that pic of Jax & Vincent de Paul, at Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week in Los Angeles from 2007, in which Jax is labeled as Vincent’s “boyfriend” in the caption.  On TWoP most were convinced that pic meant nothing & Jax was totally straight.  Er, not me.  It's not so much the pic which spoke volumes to me, but the caption underneath the pic, which stated Jax was Vincent's boyfriend.  

 

Clearly, they had to have given this info to whoever took the pic, who probably didn't know who the fuck either of them were.  Would they lie or joke or kid about such a thing?  Maybe, but why?  Doesn't make much sense.  Seemed to me like they were either dating or Jax was Vincent's paid date for the nite.

 

When this pic was first uncovered it really bugged me that Jax could actually be gay, and his whole straight stud storyline was complete & total scripted bullshit.  I've changed my mind bout this.  I think what the pic means is he's bisexual.  Now, what I'd like to know is, do the chicks he's with know he's bi -- and are they OK with it?  I suspect many of them do & are OK with it.  I thought the show was being overly cautious not to say Jax is bi.  So are they outing him?  And will they out the Toms next?

 

Btw, the guy in the previews doesn't look at all like Vincent de Paul.  So Jax's sexual history with men is probably  . . er, extensive, to say da least.

 

So is anyone buying Pandy as someone who works hard -- or at all?  And what's her balding hubby up to?  Does he work?  Me kinda doubts it.

 

I'm gettin' a very imperious vibe from Scheana.  Guess she realizes she's the replacement for Stassi?

Edited January 6, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[FozzyBear]

I cracked up when Scheana mentioned Stassi at the dinner. Yeah, you're totally over your single white female obsession with Stassi. Totally.

Now Stassi is a petty bitch, but honestly why would she go on that trip? Fly cross country for the bachelorette party of someone you don't like surrounded by people you don't like who are just going to do the same drunken shit they do in LA anyway. The whole thing sounds awful. I wouldn't want to go if I were Stassi either. Plus she's not even invited to the wedding! I can't imagine being tacky enough to give out these probation invites that Scheana does to see if someone can work their way up to a wedding invite. Jeez people, buy a copy of Emily Post already. I also think Pandora just didn't want to go so she used Pump as an excuse.

[Duke2801]

Does it look like the same man (but a bit older) in next week's previews who is professing that he loves Jax as much now as he ever did?

 

 

Oooh I didn't get a good enough look but I am praying to the Baby Jesus that it IS the same man.  Wouldn't that just be delicious?? *pinky finger up as I sip my tea*

[chlban]

My guess is that Jax is Bi and, considering what an obvious horn dog he is, that's not surprising. I think he'd pretty much screw anyone or anything as evidened by the bootleg chick.  

 

If he's going to admit it next week, good for him. I don't care about anyone's sexuality (assuming consenting adults, of course) but I think it's ridiculous to hide it.  I also think any partner should be aware if the other person is Bi. They have a right to make an informed decision if that works for them or not.

 

Personally, I wouldn't touch Jax with a 200 foot pole and it has nothing to do with whether or not he is bisexual. I feel like I need a shower after watching him on TV. My eye's will never recover from the sight of him naked.

 

He is just a disgusting piece of garbage  and a useless waste of space.

[meeeeech]

I thought all the guys were bi honestly. It surprises me that they would try to suppress that information when we've literally seen most of them naked, know too many details about their sexual exploits, cheating, drug use. Why would being gay, in Los Angeles, as a reality show member on Bravo be something to hide when these knuckleheads don't have a problem being exploited in every other way? It's bizarre.

 

I'd forgotten that FI Tom and Jax were roommates in Miami. FI Tom had to know that Jax was an escort then, and that dated men as well. Jax had zero issue spouting off all of FI Tom's secrets about Kristen, but FI Tom could have revealed that Jax slept with men, that Jax was a sugar baby, that Jax was a cokehead. Either everyone already knew all this, or FI Tom keeps a friend's secrets like Fort Knox. I don't get the feeling that FI really likes Jax at this point. I follow Scheana on social media and she seems to be super close to Jax. I guess next season he'll spill some of her secrets.

 

Do any of you watch RHOBH as well? I wonder if Brandi Glanville's head exploded when she saw that Lisa upgraded Scheana's party to the best suite in the hotel.

[CatMomma]

 

Actually, I was thinking how she didn't inherit Lisa's gorgeous looks.  Sad when ya have a stunning mother & ya get your father's meh looks.  Reminds me of Christie Brinkley & her daughter.

 

Poor thing definitely got Ken's chin.  I hate to bag on people's looks, so I will say that Pandora is by no means ugly. She just doesn't compare to her mother, who, while dressing like a diva from Dynasty, is still gorgeous. I wonder if she would look better with darker hair? 

Edited January 6, 2015 by CatMomma

[bichonblitz]

I don't think Jax is Bi. I just think he will fuck and suck anybody male or female if it will get him a place to live, money, nose candy or pretty shiny things. He is a user and a manipulator and will do what ever it takes to get what he wants. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it. JMHO of course.

Oh, and why change your name from Jason to Jax? Asshat.

[jaync]

Omg, this is the best show on television.

Right? I don't even care if it's all scripted macting, these fools deliver like Domino's.

She was "managing" Pump and couldn't go to Miami because everyone else went?

Pandora couldn't go to Miami because she was filling in for Pump's manager (who was let go/left), not because the SUR gang was gone.

Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.

Thank you. Jax is a horndog because he just is; his maybe being bisexual is immaterial to that.

Next week's episode looks crazy good!

Edited January 18, 2015 by OnceSane
removed slut-shaming language

[fliptopbox]

Poor thing definitely got Ken's chin.  I hate to bag on people's looks, so I will say that Pandora is by no means ugly. She just doesn't compare to her mother, who, while dressing like a diva from Dynasty, is still gorgeous. I wonder if she would look better with darker hair? 

Pandy isn't ugly, but that Jay Leno sized chin doesn't do anything to enhance her looks. Is there such a thing as a chin reduction, or jawline scuplt? Maybe she could benefit from one of those. It would probably up her pretty factor by like 10000%. We all know her family could afford it for her, and have no aversions to cosmetic surgery. Lisa's been nipped and tucked ten ways from Sunday, whether she admits to it or not. 

Do I care if Jax is bi, or even gay? Nope. Or gay for pay? Nope. I could give zero fucks about who he sleeps with, so long as it isn't me. To be honest I'm a bit surprised he doesn't have a sex tape floating around (eww) cos he seems like that type. My main issue is that I just don't like the sleazy way he goes about his relationships, and how these idiot women (and possibly men that we don't see) keep falling for it. Every. Single. Time. I mean yeah, LA is a big enough city, but you'd think word about certain people (especially those on a tv show) travels fast. I can't see how these [wo]men continue to fall for his ridiculously calculated lines of bullshit. It always ends up the same. Jax is a complete creep.

Edited January 7, 2015 by fliptopbox

[lunastartron]

Stassi is such an odd character. On the one hand, she is capable of delivering some relatively astute deconstructions (admitting she thought Kristen's propensity for drama and self-destruction was really cool and edgy back when she was 19) and evidently recognizes this social circle as a toxic environment. On the other, why, then, has she not extricated herself from those unhealthy surroundings if she's realized she doesn't want to be around people who don't "value the same things" she does? Production can't have wanted her back that badly, right?

 

However, this episode and the preview for the next make me wonder if she genuinely has some sort of mental illness/personality disorder. I formerly thought her personality flaws were just that- she's cruel, hateful, etc, but she always seemed to have a grasp on reality.

 

How elaborate do the mental gymnastics have to be, though, to convince yourself that your friend's desire to get along with her coworkers and spend time with her boyfriend constitutes a "betrayal"? Her eruption at Lisa also looks weird; it's not like Lisa is preying on naïve teenagers. All of these people, save James, are well over 25, so her fury at Lisa is weird and unnerving.

[Lola16]

I think Stassi and Pandi passed because neither wanted to be in a bikini.  I also think Lisa is gearing up to move to a PUMP reality show next year.

 

 

Yes! One of the worst contestants ever, Penny Davidi.

I totally missed that.  I only saw snippets of that woman and she was all kinds of awful.

 

"Let's make some bad decisions!" Oh Jax, you already have that covered.

But FI Tom had the line of the night: " You don't need to be fucking Matlock to solve this mystery". First, he knows who Matlock is. Second, great line. Third, FI Tom knows who Matlock is! Who woulda thunk?

Next week looks epic.

Thought he'd have said Jessica Fletcher. 

[OnceSane]

I would have been okay with that. I love Murder, She Wrote. In fact, I'm rewatching the series on Netflix…again. For at least the 7th time.

I still can't believe FI Tom almost left his flat iron behind.

[yourmomiseasy]

Why was Schemer's mother there? Gross.

 

Not only was her mom there, but someone said the mom was responsible for most of the penis decorations.  

[Granimal]

Can I just start out by addressing the best part of the episode? NO STASSI!!!! If we could only get rid of Jax, we'd be gold. Speaking of, where was Peter on this trip? He came over to Jax's place right before he left, but I didn't see him down there at all. Was he housesitting? Random. 

 

 

Awwww, Tom and Arianna have matching tiger shirts! In case you forgot what an amazing, made-for-each-other couple they are - those adorable shirts will serve to remind you. 

 

But then, but then! Tom nearly forgets his flat iron! Utter blasphemy! I'm beginning to think he is TOO in love with Arianna, if he cannot even focus on essentials. There is no way such a crisis would occur back in the Kristen days. Flat irons before hoes, yo. 

 

Once again, Scheana looks much better when her makeup is dialed down to a 2. 

 

Her mom, however....would SHE qualify as a bootleg chick? I feel like I really need a 10 minute after show of the Toms clarifying which chicks are "bootleg" and which are not. 

 

And that hotel.....I don't get out a lot, so maybe I've no clue what I'm talking about, but that place looked kind of busted. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it just seemed tacky, old, and skimpy. The most glaring thing was the "champagne" presented to them on arrival. Either that was some really flat champagne, or they just got water. (Might be a better idea with these folks.)

 

And we have the return of pouty Sandoval! My favorite of all the Tom personalities. Hey, you would pout too if Jax changed his plans at the last minute, resulting in him cock-blocking your bromantic weekend with Schwartzie-poo. 

 

Ewwww, Jax naked!!!! Please get the MIB guys over here stat, so they can zap that foulness from my mind forever. 

 

Are James and Kristen even really a couple? While at the dinner table he's turned to the side, chatting up Scheana's sister (or BFF, couldn't keep em straight) the entire time, while she glares daggers at her ex across the table. Yea, that's a healthy relationship. 

 

Jax and Vail - so predictable it's not even worth mentioning. That girl is so stupid. Is there like another Princeton, besides the Ivy League one? Like "Princeton, Ohio School of Makeup"? Because yea, she's really dumb. Jax was using reverse psychology on her - "I'm so horrible, I'm as bad as they all say. You don't want a guy like me". And it was totally working - "Oh, no, you can't be THAT bad." Yikes. 

 

Does Kristen think we're stupid? She totally left that phone on the table on purpose. That way she isn't the bad guy, for flat out telling the group (esp. Arianna) what is being said about the OTHER Miami weekend....but, you know, if they just happen to open up her phone and look for themselves, well that's on them. Well played, psycho, well played. 

Two things.

 

1. This post made by ghoulina was brilliant. A+++. I am STILL drying laughing.
2.  Damn, I must be fucking stupid. I had no idea that Kristin left her phone on purpose. Kristin's crazy soap opera-style plotting has now officially gone over my head! Outsmarted by Kristin. I am ashamed you guys! PLEASE tell me that this is a VR thing and not a real-life thing? I leave my phone all the time when I walk away from a dinner table, my work desk, whatever. And never once have I worried that anyone would paw through it and read my messages! I can guarantee ya'll I'll be keeping a closer eye on it form now on!

 

Unrelated, when Lisa first talked up Pandi at Pump, I assumed that she was testing the waters for a bigger on-camera roll for Pandora. Perhaps if Pump gets its own show Pandi will act as on-camera manager or something.

 

Last thought- didn't we see FI Tom and Ariana conspiring to pack the matching tiger shirts in the beginning of the episode? Shady editing if so!

Edited January 7, 2015 by Granimal

[ScoobieDoobs]

I don't think Jax is Bi. I just think he will fuck and suck anybody male or female if it will get him a place to live, money, nose candy or pretty shiny things. He is a user and a manipulator and will do what ever it takes to get what he wants. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it. JMHO of course.

Hey, I can buy that Jax is an opportunist just lookin' to get laid & maybe make some money too. Was he gay for pay? Maybe, but I get the vibe he enjoys the peen too & has just played that down completely -- or at least the producers have made a purposeful choice to not show that side of him.

I thought all the guys were bi honestly. It surprises me that they would try to suppress that information when we've literally seen most of them naked, know too many details about their sexual exploits, cheating, drug use. Why would being gay, in Los Angeles, as a reality show member on Bravo be something to hide when these knuckleheads don't have a problem being exploited in every other way? It's bizarre.

I don't think issue of bisexuality would matter to any of 'em on the show, especially cuz I suspect it of every one of 'em-- yeah, even Scheana & Shay (that big ole bear). I think it's the producers who are squeamish about this issue.

Maybe it's Lisa or Ken or Andy or other show producers or Bravo execs, who are terrified that viewers will be turned off in droves & will stop watching if -- oh shockers -- main characters (such as Jax or the Toms) are outed as bisexual. I'm wondering why the heck they would think this. As evidenced by comments here, nobody gives a shit about it.

As long as they keep partying on & acting like the chucklefucks they are & keep us happily entertained, who cares if any of 'em are bi? I do think Sandoval knows a ton of Jax's secrets bout his murky Miami past & I'd like him to start blabbing already. C'mon FI, spill ya guts, hun.

Edited January 18, 2015 by OnceSane

[ghoulina]

Unrelated, when Lisa first talked up Pandi at Pump, I assumed that she was testing the waters for a bigger on-camera roll for Pandora. Perhaps if Pump gets its own show Pandi will act as on-camera manager or something.

 

Dear God I hope not. No offense to Pandora, but she is about as enthralling as watching paint dry. 

[DollyMamaB]

No one gasps at text messages on their phone and then goes to the bathroom, leaving the phone on the table.  

 

It's only a matter of time before Tom and Ariana find a bunny cooking in the kitchen.  Kristen is THAT person.

 

I didn't even notice Stassi wasn't on this weeks show, until I saw her in the previews for next week.  

Edited January 7, 2015 by DollyMamaB

[charmed1]

I for one absolutely care if Jason/Jax is gay or bi or a cocaine addict or prostitute or a butcher, baker, or candlestick maker. It's why I watch this show. It's Melrose Place 2015. Every layer of these trashy people's lives is entertainment for me. And Jason/Jax's sex life has been the biggest part of his storyline. So if he is indeed bisexual, hell yeah I'll be watching and caring. I want to see what men he's been running game on like he does with women. I'll start to look more closely at his greasy body to see if I can spot names like "Bill" or "Chad" tattooed on there. I turn off my moral compass as soon as I turn the channel to this show. So if Jason/Jax has been out here trickin' with men, I've got my popcorn ready. Bring it on.

[bosawks]

I for one absolutely care if Jason/Jax is gay or bi or a cocaine addict or prostitute or a butcher, baker, or candlestick maker.

 

You just know watching Jax make a candlestick would be vomit inducing.

Edited January 7, 2015 by bosawks

[jaync]

Maybe it's Lisa or Ken or Andy or other show producers or Bravo execs, who are terrified that viewers will be turned off in droves & will stop watching if -- oh shockers -- main characters (such as Jax or the Toms) are outed as bisexual.

If that were the case, then I would think they would've been editing out all along any footage that might allude to any bi/gay proclivities concerning the guys, which they haven't. (And it seems next week's episode is putting Jax's sexuality right on blast.) Not to mention, Andy lives for that kind of shit, and he was discussing Jax's and FI Tom's sexuality with Brandi and Jeff Lewis just last night on WWHL.

 

Not saying that they aren't, but if all the guys are bi/gay, then can it be assumed that it's likewise for the girls?

[fliptopbox]

Not only was her mom there, but someone said the mom was responsible for most of the penis decorations.  

I thought it was pretty normal for a mom (sister too) to be at her daughter's bachelorette party. The weddings I've been a part of the brides' moms were always there for the silliness and debauchery. Why not? It's supposed to be tacky and over the top....and filled with pink penis shaped crap. There's usually a tiara, fuschia feather boa, and a "bride to be" sash involved too. I found nothing wrong with any of the actual bachelorette party stuff. Most of those things are pretty typical.

Edited January 7, 2015 by fliptopbox

[Fuzzysox]

If that were the case, then I would think they would've been editing out all along any footage that might allude to any bi/gay proclivities concerning the guys, which they haven't. (And it seems next week's episode is putting Jax's sexuality right on blast.) Not to mention, Andy lives for that kind of shit, and he was discussing Jax's and FI Tom's sexuality with Brandi and Jeff Lewis just last night on WWHL.

 

 

What did they say about it?

[heebiejeebie]

I don't think Jax's sexuality comes into play here.  Who he sells himself to does not identify who he prefers to have sex with.  I'm guessing anyone with the right amount of money for the former and himself sprawled naked in a mirrored room and a handful of lube for the latter.  We're talking about the Gorilla not Enough in the Mist after all.  Anyone who finds him sexually attractive enough to throw money his way is just fine.  But only as someone to serve as a reflection as to the glory that is himself in his own mind. 

 

I'm guessing without cameras, ole Jax and his hand are the only ones making notches in the bedpost. 

 

That or he gives a mean blowjob for 100 bucks.

[jaync]

What did they say about it?

Brandi believes Jax is straight, and FI Tom is gay. I can't remember what Jeff said about Jax, but he thinks FI is at least questioning/curious.

 

[TattleTeeny]

I can't believe that it has taken me this long to finally register and comment.  After lurking forever on TWOP and here on many forums, I finally registered to say that Jax looks like a walking STD...gross!!!  How Vail could think he is a good person is beyond me.  She is supposedly educated, and quite pretty, but if she finds him attractive, I question her judgement.  BTW, is she sporting a cold sore in her talking heads, or what?

I am a decade older than these creeps (or more) and I know from experience that, when someone comes out and says that he is a bad guy to get involved with, he is doing you a favor! It took until I was out of my 20s to grasp that, but this Vail should take heed of this! Also, for James, when your current GF actually says out loud (numerous times) to you that she hates her ex's GF more than she hates the ex himself, it is a very bad sign. 

And, I don't get the idea that this weekend of debauchery would be Pandora's thing.

[TattleTeeny]

I suspect that bachelorette parties in the real world are not so gross. However, compared to other Bravo bachelorette parties (cough..Tamra...cough) those penis decorations were downright tasteful.

 

I don't know about grody, per se, but from what I have seen when I've been unlucky enough to be at a bar where a bachelorette party is going on, they're just as idiotic and are almost always filled with tiaras and sashes and oh-so-scandalous dick accessories and squealing and whoo!ing and ugly clothes and terrible dancing (whether or not the place has a dance-floor proper) and "bad-ass" (i.e., not at all) shot ordering. In other words, a bunch of creeps acting like they're the zaniest, edgiest, most outrageous gang on earth. It's horrid. 

 

Stassi must be kicking her own ass right now. Making a decision to move to NY for some guy, thinking she is going to make it big somehow, coming back to LA with a boyfriend that refuses to be filmed, then seeing everybody having a great time last night without her.

 

Funny; to me, these examples seem like the best decisions anyone on this show has ever made. 

Edited January 7, 2015 by TattleTeeny

[panthergirl13]

Why does everyone say that Pandora and/or Stassi didn't want to be seen in a bikini? Did I miss something there?

[Persnickety1]

When doesn't he look greasy?  While I'm not into his looks either, I'm thinkin' it's his way of behaving dat makes him so repulsive to so many.  But not everyone sees Jax as repulsive.  Tiffany was still taking his crap & so was Carmen -- er, huh?  Wtf is wrong with you, Carmen?  Well, if we're to believe Jax -- which is pretty difficult, given that he lies about everything, all da fuckin' time.

 

Yeah, I was tempted to post that pic of Jax & Vincent de Paul, at Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week in Los Angeles from 2007, in which Jax is labeled as Vincent’s “boyfriend” in the caption.  On TWoP most were convinced that pic meant nothing & Jax was totally straight.  Er, not me.  It's not so much the pic which spoke volumes to me, but the caption underneath the pic, which stated Jax was Vincent's boyfriend.  

 

Clearly, they had to have given this info to whoever took the pic, who probably didn't know who the fuck either of them were.  Would they lie or joke or kid about such a thing?  Maybe, but why?  Doesn't make much sense.  Seemed to me like they were either dating or Jax was Vincent's paid date for the nite.

 

When this pic was first uncovered it really bugged me that Jax could actually be gay, and his whole straight stud storyline was complete & total scripted bullshit.  I've changed my mind bout this.  I think what the pic means is he's bisexual.  Now, what I'd like to know is, do the chicks he's with know he's bi -- and are they OK with it?  I suspect many of them do & are OK with it.  I thought the show was being overly cautious not to say Jax is bi.  So are they outing him?  And will they out the Toms next?

 

Btw, the guy in the previews doesn't look at all like Vincent de Paul.  So Jax's sexual history with men is probably  . . er, extensive, to say da least.

 

So is anyone buying Pandy as someone who works hard -- or at all?  And what's her balding hubby up to?  Does he work?  Me kinda doubts it.

 

I'm gettin' a very imperious vibe from Scheana.  Guess she realizes she's the replacement for Stassi?

 

Scoobs, did you happen to see Brandi Glanville on WWHL last night?

 

It's been pretty much lost in the commentary about her wine-throwing at Jeff Lewis, but the subject of Jax came up and whether or not he was gay.

 

Brandi said she didn't think Jax was gay but out of left field and totally predictable for Brandi she said she believed Tom was gay or bisexual.

 

There was chatter going on after she said "Tom" but I'm pretty sure it was followed with something longer than "Schwartz," so I think she said Sandoval.

 

Now, Tom wasn't even a subject of conversation, it was about Jax and yet she seized the opportunity to state her opinion about Tom's sexual preferences, something which he himself has never discussed.  

 

I need to bring this up over in Brandi's thread because I've yet to see this being discussed.  

Edited January 7, 2015 by Persnickety1

[ScoobieDoobs]

Does Brandi even know either of 'em?  I figured she was just saying what she thought would please her boss Andy.  Seems like her MO these days.  Andy has said before, & he did say right after she said FI could be bi (or gay), that he wants to hug FI.  Ugh, Brandi, fuck off, I don't care what your take is on any of the chucklefucks.

[ScoobieDoobs]

If that were the case, then I would think they would've been editing out all along any footage that might allude to any bi/gay proclivities concerning the guys, which they haven't.

 

 

Maybe they have & we don't know it.  After all, how would we know if any hint of anyone being bi has been edited out?  But since I think all of this is carefully scripted, my theory is the producers have been careful to make everyone straight and eliminate and/or avoid any mention of anyone being anything other than 100% straight.

 

Not saying that they aren't, but if all the guys are bi/gay, then can it be assumed that it's likewise for the girls?

 

We've never had any direct hint of it, but why not?  Maybe when the Toms were busy spooning, Katie & Kristen were giving it a whirl . . . or a swirl?  

 

On the other, why, then, has she not extricated herself from those unhealthy surroundings if she's realized she doesn't want to be around people who don't "value the same things" she does? Production can't have wanted her back that badly, right?

 

 

What other explanation is there for Stassi's presence, other than producers desperately wanted her there?  She has no reason for being on the show any longer.  She has no connection to the rest of the cast.  And she seems to have cut off Katie & Tom, who were the last ones she was speaking to.  I'm thinking this scene of her telling off Lisa may be her swan song.  Or at least I'm hoping.  Buh-bye, granny Stassi.  You will not be missed.

Edited January 7, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs