Current Plots Discussion: Actually Today's Episode

[tribeca]

Parents in Salem are very close with their children. Sonny, Sarah and now Brady even share their sex stories with their mom and dads.  

I cant see any reason Brady would be attracted to Kristin. There is nothing likable about that woman  

Tony and Anna seem like they are on another show.  Maybe it’s their acting styles. Something seems off JMHO.  

Marlena must make some good money with all the crazy people living in her town. 

Edited September 18, 2019 by tribeca

[CanaryFan98]

Lost in Maggie's comparison is that nobody seems to bring up her disapproval of Pete being involved with Melissa. Pete did terrible things (granted not on Ben's level but it was bad) and Maggie didn't want Melissa anywhere near him. Course silly me how dare we use actual history on this show.

Speaking of history it was nice that they circled back to Jennifer/Kristen's past friendship at least on paper a shame that it doesn't ring true with SH's version. ED's version at least brought humanity to Kristen where I can see her caring about Jennifer's well being. SH's version? Not so much.

While I love JJ/Jack scenes I don't like how they fast tracked them bonding again(course I like to think its because Jennifer being missing is a bigger concern for JJ at the moment).

Edited September 19, 2019 by CanaryFan98

[Frozendiva]

Ciara was awful. However, if Jordan did have a serious brain injury, it will not be fixed in a couple of months. She is probably faking being declared sane.  Unless Ben is banned from being around any children, he should be able to maybe petition the court system for a supervised visit with his nephew. Jordan should still have to maintain counseling sessions as part of her release. Otherwise Bayview should bottle its care system since people who go there are good as new within weeks.

Why are John and Brady discussing his obsession with Kristen? Ewwww. Brady is over forty and should solve his own problems.

Kristen certainly did not have any tea for her visitors. 

A DiMera going to jail? A previously deceased one too? Has Tony been declared legally alive?

JJ and Jack are bonding a bit too quickly. At least the Jennifer story is moving quickly.

Edited September 19, 2019 by Frozendiva

[CanaryFan98]

That's because its clear they're ending this J&J story hence the rushed ending they drag a storyline where there's no movement then they rush an ending where there's no real payoff. Which makes everything so flat to me at least.

[boes]

Any chance Ciara can climb up Julie's ass and homestead there?  I think the climate would suit her.

Of course, Jordan doesn't stand a chance, since Ciara and Ben must be made the Saints of Salem, she'll probably have to kidnap a busload of orphans while threatening to break Maggie's hummels and at the same time dangling Ciara by her little toe over a lake full of alligators, with Julie bound, but unfortunately not gagged and ready to be run over by a train.

Jordan, who until Ben and Ciara needed propping, had left town with all her faculties intact.  Yep, this is storytelling at it's finest, isn't it?  

Nothing more wholesome than a father and son discussing the woman both men have had sex with, is there?  "The Brady Bunch", on this show, refers, I think, to what happens to our little blockhead when he sees Kristen.....

Anna and Tony seem positively old-fashioned and sweet today, and he accidentally killed a guy while protecting a psycho. 

Thanks, Ciara, Thanks, Ben.

[Frozendiva]

Boes, you forgot that in addition to her brain injury and probably surgery to help that out, that Jordan also needed some plastic surgery for her face.

[FilmTVGeek80]

2 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

 Unless Ben is banned from being around any children, he should be able to maybe petition the court system for a supervised visit with his nephew.

How would he do that? I'm fairly sure there's no such thing as Uncle's rights. Blood relative or not, Ben doesn't have a right to see his nephew especially over the mother's objections. I don't think a parent needs a legitimate reason to keep someone from their kid, even if they're doing it just to be spiteful, they're the parent and it's up to them.

[SueB]

I sincerely appreciate Brady’s honest ... but DUDE,  that’s your DAD.   As soon as he started talking about ripping off clothes, I would have nope’d put of there.

[Rafael]

11 hours ago, Lastwaltz said:

What a shame -- why do young and beautiful women think they need this crap? Or ANY woman, yikes. 

I agree. She is like the next Lisa Rinna in that regard. 

Chrishelle is naturally beautiful . I also dont get why she does this to herself . 

[Petunia13]

Ciara called Eve a bitch and petty for being bitter that Ben killed her daughter and walks free, because he was ill and is now rehabilitated.  But Ciara’s also furious Jordan attempted to kill her and gets to walk free since Jordan was ill and rehabilitated. 

[WendyCR72]

1 hour ago, SueB said:

I sincerely appreciate Brady’s honest ... but DUDE,  that’s your DAD.   As soon as he started talking about ripping off clothes, I would have nope’d put of there.

Especially when you consider Dad slept with/was once engaged to her, too! Just "ICK!" all the way around!

[Rafael]

2 hours ago, boes said:

11 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

I agree.

They had the perfect set up for Ciara to be the hellion, Allie to be the good girl, Sydney be somewhere in between, and Johnny slightly Dimera (never full on Dimera) and very protective of his sisters and cousin.

And on top of that , Claire should have been groomed to be the next Marlena .She has blood and legal ties to the Hortons ,Bradys,Kiriakis and DiMeras (via Johnny and Sydney).Thus  She should be everybody's best friend - The peacemaker . But no ,they turned her into a pornstar and a psycho . 

Edited September 19, 2019 by Rafael

[Petunia13]

Yeah the Brady and John TMI was gross and caused me to skip lunch considering it’s a parent talking about sex with his child regarding a person’s he’s slept w too, but I also watch B&B which takes it to a whole nother level. 😖

If I derived anything of substance is Brady is still a complete and total idiot. What may I ask is so compelling or sexy about Kristen? She’s deranged, not funny, not that intelligent, not charismatic, and too skinny. Nothing to hand wave or justify here. Her plan to help Andre and Jack to get Brady’s forgiveness is thinly veiled too. Why would anyone be influenced by that?

Low key mad Jennifer was kidnapped in such an ugly top since we will now have to see that shirt for at least a week.

Brady Pubs green aprons on their servers with the round logo look too much like Starbucks ones. Odd Eric and Roman never wore those dorky things. Leadership privilege I guess which I hate since I’m a server and experienced managers breaking dress code daily  while rapping the knuckles of everyone else. 

“Can we go a single week without someone being abducted?”

Corday (whisper screams) “nooo” 

[tribeca]

Jennifer was very feisty and strong in that kidnaped scene. This isn’t her first rodeo.  

Even though Ben isn’t my favorite character I always did like and appreciate his and Jordan’s brother sister realationship.  Jordan could have still felt she failed Ben and not want him around her son without her going crazy.  

Ciara could have still been kidnaped and saved by Ben.  Ben killed three people. It could have been one of those relatives   I know the show wants it to be Ben/Ciara against the world with them being the saints but that story isn’t doing them any favors. 

Ciara also needs a job or hobby.  

[msrachelj]

6 hours ago, Rafael said:

I agree. She is like the next Lisa Rinna in that regard. 

Chrishelle is naturally beautiful . I also dont get why she does this to herself . 

WAS naturally beautiful. Not anymore. Plastic .

[Lastwaltz]

4 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

Low key mad Jennifer was kidnapped in such an ugly top since we will now have to see that shirt for at least a week.

HAHA, that's all I could think of, too : ) 

@tribeca - Also thought that Jennifer was taking no shit because she's been down this road a few times, lol. It seems like they won't drag this one out, thank god.

I ff'd past Brady and John. No point. 

Ciara is insufferably immature. And all I could think of during Ben's talk with Jordan outside was that his eyebrows had been recently waxed and groomed. 

Hope today has more Jennifer/Jack/JJ in it. 

[Sandman]

18 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

ED's version at least brought humanity to Kristen …

No. I'm afraid I disagree entirely, at least about the end of her run. The storyline where she slept with Eric (and with Jawn, so that Jawn could "prove" that she was unworthy of Brady) was a campy, disordered mess. There hasn't been discernible humanity in her for years -- not in the writing, nor in the performance. (Sorry, but I feel strongly about this.) 

Edited September 19, 2019 by Sandman
For clarity; "her last few appearances" and "her few appearances" are not the same thing!

[Rafael]

On 9/19/2019 at 1:30 AM, BoldDays said:

Yeh. She was awful. 

As a Bo fan, I agree that she is not the daughter I would have expected. To be fair though, he's been out of her life since 2012, except for a brief period of coming back to die. So even without SORASing, that's a big chunk of her formative years that he missed. And unfortunately during that time Hope was getting strangled by her new husband, killing wheelchair-bound mobsters, covering up the murder with her new boyfriend, spending time in jail, and then re-marrying and divorcing. So when you add that to Ciara's rape and her beloved father dying, I get she should be screwed up and possibly not the most stable character. The problem is, with all that history to mine, they have not done it. Instead they have gone with a fairly straightforward love story - albeit with a serial killer. What is as annoying is that I get the feeling the writers expect us to like Ciara regardless, presumably just because she is the child of supercouple (Abigail, anyone?) rather than play those beats that would explain why she can regularly be an obnoxious piece of work.

But there I go again, expecting nuanced writing...

Lauren Boles shoud have been there when Bo Brady got killed off.

Her version of Ciara should have been the one sayin goodbye to Bo and mourning his death .

Afterall,When Bo was still on the canvas,it was Lauren Boles's Ciara he mostly interacted with . 

Could have easily showed flashbacks of them interacting when Ciara thinks of Bo all the good times they had.

Lauren got screwed over . And to think that the awful Vivian Jovanni  was the one whose version of Ciara got to say Goodbye to Bo .. .absolutely maddening . 

Edited September 20, 2019 by Rafael

[BuckeyeLou]

Today's show with the flash-backs of Jenn&Jack reminded me why I liked them so much 'back in the day".   Missy & Matt looked SO Young...they were such an attractive & fun couple.  Wish there were some 'fun" couples on the show now.

[Sandman]

Also, it's starting to bug me again how varied the pronunciation of "Dimera" is on this show. Several characters/actors, including Vivian, have been saying "Demeera," as if the name is spelled "De Mira," and that's just wrong. (Yes, I know, it's literally the least wrong thing about this show, but still, it's making me cranky.) Vivian is supposed to be able to speak at least a little Italian, so it makes the least sense for her to be pronouncing it this way. It's Dimera (/dee meh-rah/). "De Mira" makes my ears bleed. Please stop. 

Edited September 19, 2019 by Sandman

[DaphneCat]

7 hours ago, Lastwaltz said:

@tribeca - Also thought that Jennifer was taking no shit because she's been down this road a few times, lol. It seems like they won't drag this one out, thank god.

Yes.  And Jennifer is one of the few people with enough sense to act like she's still tied up/incapacitated when she hears the kidnapper coming back.  I would have preferred she spend her time trying to untie the second knot rather than useless shrieking, but at least she isn't crying, whimpering, and waiting to be saved!

12 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

If I derived anything of substance is Brady is still a complete and total idiot. What may I ask is so compelling or sexy about Kristen? She’s deranged, not funny, not that intelligent, not charismatic, and too skinny. Nothing to hand wave or justify here. Her plan to help Andre and Jack to get Brady’s forgiveness is thinly veiled too. Why would anyone be influenced by that?

THIS X 1000.  This story line hasn't even HAPPENED and I'm over it.  When Brady gets that stupid, eyes-glazed-over stare in Kristen's presence I keep hoping they're going to go with him having petit mal seizures instead of trying to show undying passion.

[BuckeyeLou]

44 minutes ago, DaphneCat said:

Yes.  And Jennifer is one of the few people with enough sense to act like she's still tied up/incapacitated when she hears the kidnapper coming back.  I would have preferred she spend her time trying to untie the second knot rather than useless shrieking, but at least she isn't crying, whimpering, and waiting to be saved!

THIS X 1000.  This story line hasn't even HAPPENED and I'm over it.  When Brady gets that stupid, eyes-glazed-over stare in Kristen's presence I keep hoping they're going to go with him having petit mal seizures instead of trying to show undying passion.

Yay for Jennifer having a Salem brain 🙂  And yes, I don't get Kristen's appeal, Brady just comes across as a weak Lunkhead.

Who is this 'new" Nicole?!  She is so sappy, all hearts & flowers...the 'old" Nicole was a complicated bad girl full of snark & sass.  She & Eric together are just making me go "Ugh".

[Silver Raven]

Is Chloe gone?  Are there going to be no farewell scenes? Did she ever get to see Holly?

I wish Rolf had said, "I have returned ... from the dead."

I'm glad they mentioned Brandon.

Ooh.  I just had a thought that Abe and Eve should couple up.

Rolf calls Jennifer "Miss Horton" and not "Mrs. Devereux"?

They're really trying to make us think that it's Eve that has Jennifer.

"I have been redeemed in the eyes of so many people in this town."  Uh, name one.

"Who did I really hurt?"  Uh, Ted?

Big mouth, there, Xander.

[Petunia13]

1 hour ago, Sandman said:

Also, it's starting to bug me again how varied the pronunciation of "Dimera" is on this show. Several characters/actors, including Vivian, have been saying "Demeera," as if the name is spelled "De Mira," and that's just wrong. (Yes, I know, it's literally the least wrong thing about this show, but still, it's making me cranky.) Vivian is supposed to be able to speak at least a little Italian, so it makes the least sense for her to be pronouncing it this way. It's Dimera (/dee meh-rah/). "De Mira" makes my ears bleed. Please stop. 

Child hush. They still have half the characters saying “Carolyn” for Caroline and pronounce Ariana both ways. There’s obviously no acting coach or consistency person on set so we have to rock with it. 

On that note this show has turned into Passion Lite but Vivian and Kristen give me dinner theater or murder mystery party vibes. 

[BoldDays]

8 hours ago, Sandman said:

No. I'm afraid I disagree entirely, at least about the end of her run. The storyline where she slept with Eric (and with Jawn, so that Jawn could "prove" that she was unworthy of Brady) was a campy, disordered mess. There hasn't been discernible humanity in her for years -- not in the writing, nor in the performance. (Sorry, but I feel strongly about this.) What may I ask is so compelling or sexy about Kristen? She’s deranged, not funny, not that intelligent, not charismatic

14 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

I wanted to double-like both of these posts @SANDMAN and @Petunia13 because I feel the same way you do. It’s been so long since there was any humanity in Kristen that for me there is no longer anything that makes her a compelling character to the point that I can’t buy that *even Brady* would be interested in her beyond the physical attraction spoken of in far a too much detail! 

Edited September 19, 2019 by BoldDays

[CanaryFan98]

1 hour ago, BuckeyeLou said:

Yay for Jennifer having a Salem brain 🙂  And yes, I don't get Kristen's appeal, Brady just comes across as a weak Lunkhead.

Who is this 'new" Nicole?!  She is so sappy, all hearts & flowers...the 'old" Nicole was a complicated bad girl full of snark & sass.  She & Eric together are just making me go "Ugh".

This is what happens when a bad girl/guy gets defanged.... it wasn't always like this but in today's soap just stay bad...

9 hours ago, Sandman said:

No. I'm afraid I disagree entirely, at least about the end of her run. The storyline where she slept with Eric (and with Jawn, so that Jawn could "prove" that she was unworthy of Brady) was a campy, disordered mess. There hasn't been discernible humanity in her for years -- not in the writing, nor in the performance. (Sorry, but I feel strongly about this.) 

Well Kristen was a cartoon at that point and stayed way past her expiration date but at least with ED's version there was a nostalgia factor in her scenes with Jennifer etc that reminded me of a time when she had a level of humanity she lacks now.

[peachmangosteen]

1 hour ago, Silver Raven said:

"I have been redeemed in the eyes of so many people in this town."  Uh, name one.

Right! I was like, "Bitch, where?" when she said that lol.

What an absolute asshole Xander is to tell anyone that Sarah is pregnant, let alone Kristen. Hell, Sarah deserves better than him and I kinda hate Sarah! I'm just tired of Xander. He works for a bit but not the long run imo.

[enchantingmonkey]

Stacy Haiduk isn't playing Kristin with an ounce of ambiguity or vulnerability.  So much of her line delivery is with a tone of condescension or contempt.  I wonder if this is dictated by the writing, or if she doesn't see any redeeming qualities in the character.  I'm fine with her "love" for Brady being primarily about their sex life but if they want to keep her around for awhile, it'd be nice if it seemed like she could relate to or care about another human being.  

Speaking of relating to another human being, where did that scene with Abe empathizing with Eve being driven by loneliness and anger come from?  That was a pleasant change of pace.  And for a moment there, I could see how Eve has been on such a rampage lately because she'd rather be pissed off than confront her emotional damage.  Why concern yourself with healing when you can chew the scenery?   

So now Dr Shah is a lunatic?  I guess all the foreshadowing the show could afford was the one day Dr Rolf got Dr Shah's lab.  I kid, I kid!  This show is a character-driven marvel.  

[CanaryFan98]

I wouldn't have minded the Abe/Eve scene if

1)They actually acknowledged the Shane/Abe friendship

2) If Charlotte Ross was Eve here. 

It just seemed contrived but I like Abe in this role despite lack of airtime he makes the most of it and adds a level of humanity to this show that's severely lacking.

[Frozendiva]

Abe did very well with both Nicole and Eve today. He can relate to Eve's loneliness and her taking it out on anyone who comes in her direction. He was also kind to Nicole and sort of treated her like a daughter. Some humanity. I do miss the scheming Nicole, but maybe she has grown up a bit. We'll see.

Dr. Rolf does not look very healthy. At least Kayla pointed out that it is possible that Dr. Shah, being angry about losing 'his' lab, could have destroyed it and possibly has something to do with Jennifer being missing.

Jennifer had a visit from some of the Salem Brain today in terms of untying most of herself. Whether Dr. Shah will notice the loose rope is another thing. She really hasn't been missing 24 hours yet so there isn't much the police can do unless there is a suspicion of foul play.

Way to go, Xander, informing Kristen that Sarah is preggers.

Of course Sarah has booked herself a termination. She's a doctor and could have taken a heavy dose of antibiotics, which probably could end her pregnancy if it is early enough.

Did Eric get a new couch for his apartment?

[CanaryFan98]

I also liked the Abe/Nicole scenes and honestly we should've gotten way more of their relationship these last few years. Theirs is less contrived to me because of Brandon and that connection is always acknowledged.

[boes]

I'm done with this Kristen nonsense.  The woman is beyond psychotic - she stole an embryo, remember THAT, Brady?  And that's just ONE of the cherries on the shit sundae that is Kristen.  Besides, Stacy Haiduk's Kristen has nothing to redeem her, not even nostalgia, so rather than indulging in these endless discussions/rants/threats/sexual come-ons, how about Show just try my default wish for all characters who just drain the life out the minutes they inhabit on screen?

Forget the talking, just have everyone do 

this, and walk away.  No more talking to her.

Eric is such a good man, SUCH a good man.  He only lunged at, attempted to beat up, ONE person today!  What a saint he is.  I wish Xander had made mincemeat out of him, or at least made him cry.  I guess that will happen instead when he gets naked and Nicole starts giggling......

I like Dr. Rolf.  He might be odd but he's far less of a pain in the ass than most of the regular characters.  

Eve, that's a lot of brownies.

Wouldn't it be great if Jennifer was allowed to get herself out of this kidnapping, instead of being rescued by somebody?  At least it better be Jack and nobody else.

Salem's midwest summers must be milder than I thought, with everyone running around wearing black leather gloves.

Pie, anyone?

Now I'm hungry.....

Edited September 20, 2019 by boes

[DaphneCat]

9 hours ago, BuckeyeLou said:

Who is this 'new" Nicole?!  She is so sappy, all hearts & flowers...the 'old" Nicole was a complicated bad girl full of snark & sass.  She & Eric together are just making me go "Ugh".

And they're both just so miserable.  They should  be happy and giddy but today when they went for the hug Nicole AGAIN had that grimace (I think it was supposed to be conscience or sympathy for Sarah or some such crap but just looked like breakfast wasn't sitting too well.)  Eric has mopey down to a science but does Nicole REALLY have to join him?

[tribeca]

Nicole and Eric look beautiful together.  With all Nicole had going on it’s amazing she was able to get a new hair color and style. The hair looks fab.  

That was a pretty good fake out with Sarah, Xander , Eric and Nicole.  Eric needs to take down a notch or two.  Sarah is a grown woman and can take care of herself. 

Kristins whole personality is so ugly Brady being attracted to that makes him look bad   

Abe was enjoyable going around town righting wrongs and handing out free advice.  

I just wanted to give Eve a hug or maybe I wanted a brownie. 

Edited September 20, 2019 by tribeca

[JBC344]

On 9/17/2019 at 5:38 PM, CanaryFan98 said:

Victor came onto the scene in 1985 he was around but mostly for the tail end of that. He didn't approve of Hope at first himself (course after Billie/Carly he realized Hope wasn't so bad in comparison).

Carly yes, but Victor always liked Billie. 

[Sandman]

18 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

… but at least with ED's version there was a nostalgia factor in her scenes with Jennifer etc that reminded me of a time when she had a level of humanity she lacks now.

Fair enough -- I can see nostalgia being a factor.

[Silver Raven]

Doctor "Cramer", huh?

"I thought we had a real connection."  After three dates?

Jennifer is in the Salem Inn, but nobody heard her screaming?

[bobcat1946]

On 9/19/2019 at 7:19 AM, Lastwaltz said:

HAHA, that's all I could think of, too : ) 

@tribeca - Also thought that Jennifer was taking no shit because she's been down this road a few times, lol. It seems like they won't drag this one out, thank god.

I ff'd past Brady and John. No point. 

Ciara is insufferably immature. And all I could think of during Ben's talk with Jordan outside was that his eyebrows had been recently waxed and groomed. 

Hope today has more Jennifer/Jack/JJ in it. 

At least Ciara goes not go around slapping people in the face like Abigail.

[boes]

1 hour ago, Silver Raven said:

Jennifer is in the Salem Inn, but nobody heard her screaming?

That tells us more about their clientele and what goes on in there than I care to know......

I guess, though, if you've got Kristen and Eve as hotel guests, what's one more screaming person?

[peachmangosteen]

I don't think Jennifer was in the Salem Inn where Kristen and Eve (and seemingly Kate) live. She was in what seems like a motel, the one Ben was living in for a bit.

[DaphneCat]

1 hour ago, Silver Raven said:

Jennifer is in the Salem Inn, but nobody heard her screaming?

I was making the assumption they were at the Hide-Out Motel - the second most popular place after Kidnap Kabin for the deranged and nefarious.  

[Frozendiva]

1 hour ago, DaphneCat said:

I was making the assumption they were at the Hide-Out Motel - the second most popular place after Kidnap Kabin for the deranged and nefarious.  

And on a budget.

[Frozendiva]

Xander had some good lines today - the one with Brady seeing Kristen for the horror that she is and him running for the hills.

When she suggested the baby switch (again), I wondered if she realized how old she was. Not like she is 30.

Hi Lucas. Nice to see you again.

Kayla was very helpful to Jack and JJ regarding the change in Dr. Shah. Suuuuuure he changed that quickly. Where did his obsession with Jennifer come from? They seemed to only be friends who went out a couple of times. Seriously Dr. Shah, you want a woman with that dark eye makeup?

Wonder if Dr. Shah picked up Jennifer's phone and saw that she gave her location to Jack. Where else could they go to? Kidnap Kabin? The Horton cabin?

Vivian's lipstick was good. No one thought to put the doctor clothing disguise somewhere in the wine cellar? Did she refill her liquor flask?

[cmahorror]

Actually, Kristin's plan isn't as insane as you would think, thanks to modern medicine: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/06/health/india-woman-73-gives-birth-scli-intl/index.html

The only crazy part is that Brady would believe it happened naturally but, then again, it is Brady so he probably will.

Never saw OLTL but I just can't with new Vivian. Over-the-top and not in a good way and there is absolutely no connection between her and Stefan. I am so glad she is only on for a guest stint but I wonder if they have the budget for new scenery after she leaves to replace all the scenery she chewed.

Gotta hand it to MR today, she sold the fear while Shah was ranting. You could see her remembering the past and she acted like a rape victim scared to death that it was going to happen again and desperate to stop it.

As for Shah's descent into madness, it is unbelievable but they are doing their best to try and explain why he would suddenly snap. The problem is they are missing some important beats to pull the story off. Maybe he kept calling her after that last date and she refused to take his call, telling Jack and JJ she is hoping he'll take the hint or he mysteriously shows up in the background wherever she is. Not that she notices but the audience does. Or maybe Kayla finds out that he was let go from his former hospital due to stalking charges from a co-worker and that he is mentally unbalanced and she let him go for that reason and not a one time snap about his lab. Something to build up the fact that he is a danger even if Jenn and company don't realize it.

[QueenSerena]

6 minutes ago, cmahorror said:

Never saw OLTL but I just can't with new Vivian. Over-the-top and not in a good way and there is absolutely no connection between her and Stefan. I am so glad she is only on for a guest stint but I wonder if they have the budget for new scenery after she leaves to replace all the scenery she chewed.

I'm glad it wasn't just me. I thought her scene towards the end of the episode rivaled Judith Chapman's portrayal of Diana for the scene-chewing title. I wanted to enjoy it, but all I could think of was how Louise Sorel would have played it. Louise's Vivan would not have been so panicked.

[Irlandesa]

Am I missing something or did Kristin's argument when trying to convince Cander to go along with her plan to recreate one of the most reviled stories in soaps (Erica Kane's aborted fetus comes back as an adult) not make any sense?

She kept arguing that Xander should do this to remove the baby as an obstacle between he and Sarah but an actual legitimate termination does that 1000x better than moving the baby from one uterus to another. What if Brady does a DNA test and finds out he's the uncle?  It'd eventually all unravel. 

But an abortion?  That's the end.

[tribeca]

 Part of the show was interrupted by news here.  

Is Xander going along with Kristin’s plan ?

Did Jennifer escape  or did the doctor move her ?

did Ben do anything heroic?

is Julie still annoying @boes?

is Kristin the same age as Marlena & John ?

[Petunia13]

Yes Kristen’s logic that her taking Sarah’s embryo would help Xander in his pursuit of Sarah made no sense. If anything him convincing Sarah to keep it and saying he’ll stand by her or help during this would prevail on her tentative trust and iffy friendship towards him. 

Of course it makes no sense really Sarah thinking if Eric knew she was pregnant would ruin his and Nicole’s relationship. Nicole was “dead”. And he’s perfectly fine making a life with Holly who is Dan’s daughter with Nicole from when they were split. Nicole sees no issue with him parenting Holly. Nicole has had no problems with men having children by other women in the past.  In a realistic world they’d probably be happy Holly would have a step sibling and Nicole could fill a step parental role. Maggie would be thrilled to have another grandchild. 

[nilyank]

6 minutes ago, Petunia13 said:

Nicole has had no problems with men having children by other women in the past.  

Acutally she did with Sami and EJ. Nicole could not stand that Sami was having EJ's child when she lost her child and engineer to steal Sydney. 

I don't think this will happen this time because she has Holly but I don't think she would be all that pleased that another woman is having a child with the man that she loves when it would be difficult for Nicole do so for herself.

[Petunia13]

9 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Acutally she did with Sami and EJ. Nicole could not stand that Sami was having EJ's child when she lost her child and engineer to steal Sydney. 

I don't think this will happen this time because she has Holly but I don't think she would be all that pleased that another woman is having a child with the man that she loves when it would be difficult for Nicole do so for herself.

No I think moreso she was trying to replace the child she lost and knew she and EJ were dicey and thought having his child would secure the bag.