S09.E13: Jill's Wedding

[bren70]

Ok I have to admit it.  I cried at Jim Bob in all his emotional mess.  He may have his quirks, and lord knows my beliefs and lifestyle couldn't be more different than that of the Duggars, but damn he loves his kids.  On behalf of all girls whose fathers missed their daughter's childhoods because they were in the barroom, Jill is a lucky girl to have a father that cares about her so much and will miss her so much.  

 

Side note - I'm surprised they allow the bridesmaids to link arms with the groomsmen.  That's more touching than a side hug, kind of.  It was strange seeing Jana, Jessa, etc. walking along arm in arm with a man that they are not "courting".    

[jb0495]

OMG the baby talk already started!

DerickDillard is not a good kisser.

LMAO Jessa "I don't like root beer"

[trimthatfat]

LMAO@ Jinger saying 1,000 guests doesn't sound like a lot. I had less than 200 people at my wedding and felt incredibly overwhelmed by the length of the guest list.

[lottiedottie]

I just wanted to point out that my kids and I watched a half hour of this episode, went to Target and Party City and when we came home, they still hadn't gotten actually married. This was one long ass episode!

[Ripley68]

Why did Jill and Derrick arrive at the church together the day of the wedding - and she had a pillow - and Michelle and the J-slaves looked like they hadn't seen her all night? 

 

I call shennanigans!

 

She shaved him because she is totally type A and didn't trust anyone else

 

Bonus points that Derrick knows how to tell all the kids apart after only 3 months

Edited October 29, 2014 by Ripley68

[JerseyGirl]

So now that their married, it looks like Jill sits on DerrickDillards lap during THs?

[Barb23]

Oh. God. No. I can't believe what I just witnessed. Did Josh just run out into the aisle, grab Anna and grope/smooch her????

This was after Bin stepped out, grabbed Jessa Blessa & what seemed like, pushed the usher out of the way.

I agree with the others about Erin's piano playing. I like organs better in a church setting. I did see some of the Bates at the rehearsal dinner, but I agree they could have spoken with them. Such good friends, huh?

I call the sprinting disrespectful. As was Ben & Josh's actions coming down the aisle & Jill's bare feet. They are still in church, God's House. They acted (no pun intended) like they were doing the final act of a play. This family has no class!!

And we waited all season for this???

[SmallTownMom]

Just watched bits and pieces, since it is on at the same time during the ball game.

 

Pretty much what I expected.  JimBoob is a dick, and Mechelle thought it was "precious."

 

The piano playing sounded so tinny. 

 

JimBoob and Mechelle were laughing at their precious little miracle, who was acting up.  This is why I hate to see little kids in a wedding.  Why did everybody run out?  And Josh had to plant one on Anna aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnndddddddddddddddd grab a little attention.  Jana, Joy and the little one that cried (Jordan?) were heartbreaking to watch.  And Ben sounded incredibly stupid when he explained that when they say "I now pronounce you man and wife" that now you are married.  Thanks for clearing that up.  What a rocket scientist.  We all know what you are REALLY looking forward to, Ben.

 

The way TLC drug this all out, did anybody even care anymore about the wedding?  I like Derickdillard for the most part, but Jill just bugs me.

[truthtalk2014]

If anyone can do a freeze frame just after the guy pronounces them man and wife- you will be quite frightened to see MEchelle's attempt at crying ( a napkin on her eye) and Mr. Sewald looking as wild eyed as MEchelle.  They both look like serial killers - either that or they are auditioning for Deliverance. 

 

Edit- I meant just before.

Edited October 29, 2014 by truthtalk2014

[bren70]

Josiah was there, he was a groomsman.  

 

I literally cringe every time Ben opens his mouth.  He is SO awkward not sometimes, but EVERY SINGLE TIME.  At first when he started doing THs, I thought he was just nervous being on camera.  But it's been months now, Ben.  He's a cute kid but he has a LOT of maturing to do.  I don't know what Jessa sees in him beyond his looks and him being the key to getting her out on her own.  I'm honestly glad Jim Bob made him wait to propose - they are so not ready.  

 

I liked a lot of Jill's wedding details (definitely a lot of Pinterest influence there) like the messages on the scrapbook pages, the rustic banner and signs, etc.  But her little "funny" plan for everyone running out of the church and the guys (Josh, Ben, etc.) pretending to "take over" their girls and running off with them was so stupid.  It just looked obnoxious and it didn't end up being funny.  It was like the equivalent to those stupid "everyone does a dance with lip syncing down the aisle" things that are trendy these days.  

[NJRach]

 

This was after Bin stepped out, grabbed Jessa Blessa & what seemed like, pushed the usher out of the way.

 

That looked like something a middle-schooler would do.

[trimthatfat]

They showed Amy, in a sleeveless teal dress, and aunt Deanna VERY briefly in the dressing area when the women were getting ready. It was almost like it pained the camera to flash to them. 

 

That was around the same time we were treated to JimBob literally leading Ben to another room by the tie. Like Ben or dislike Ben, JimBob's treatment of him is despicable IMO.

 

Aw, I missed the scene with Amy. As much as they have all talked about how close they are to Amy over the years, I thought she'd be in Jill's wedding.

[NausetGirl]

Twelve minutes into the show and how many times has Jill interrupted Derick already in the talking heads? That's gonna get old for him pretty quick. She's really becoming insufferable, at least to me anyway.

 

I agree.  But I'm not so sure about Derick not liking it. More and more I get the feeling Jill wears the [proverbial] pants in this family.  I'm beginning to see him as Ray Barone to Jill's Deborah.  Or maybe Jill's Marie.

[Adeejay]

I don't understand why Jill couldn't wear ballerina flats. They are comfortable and inexpensive. A couple of guests gasped when they caught a glimpse of her dirty feet.

[truthtalk2014]

Super awkward, Derick! That kiss was a mess.

Worst kiss ever.  I'm surprised he impregnated her ten days later.  He had a lot to learn.

[wanderwoman]

Why did Jill and Derrick arrive at the church together the day of the wedding - and she had a pillow - and Michelle and the J-slaves looked like they hadn't seen her all night? 

 

I call shennanigans!

 

She shaved him because she is totally type A and didn't trust anyone else

 

Bonus points that Derrick knows how to tell all the kids apart after only 3 months

I seem to remember that they spent some time with Dericks mom the night before.

[MarysWetBar]

That's quite an aggressive piano player.

Maybe decaf next time?

Lol! I totally agree! I was thinking " is this a duggar wedding or a friggin meatloaf concert? Haha

[NausetGirl]

I'm both surprised and disappointed that there, so far, has been no mention made of the Bates in attendance. Erin had to share her day with the Duggars yet no one can even talk to one of the Bates on camera? Or mention how many of them came? I read somewhere either here or on another board that the old producer, Sean, left a few years ago. This new production team is not so hot and that's the nicest way I can put it.

 

I think I saw Gil and Kelly at the rehearsal.

[Angeltoes]

I hope Jill washed her feet before she got in the honeymoon bed because they must have been filthy.

Every time she talks I wish I had one of those soaker water pistols and could douse her when she says "like." She'd be one little drowned rat.

When they got in the truck, was anybody else sing-songing in their head,"We know what you're gonna dooooo..."?

What was with the money on the dash?

[Joe Jitsu913]

Thoughts on this episode:

Did Jill use a professional make up artist? I hope she got her money back. Her makeup looked poorly applied and melted off.

Why does Jim Blob act like a sugar daddy about to give away his sugar baby, Jill? I was getting squeaked out.

Everything about the kiss was a hot mess. Nothing romantic or passionate about it.

Why did the Short-Fat idiot and Anna have to make out in front of the entire wedding party. Don't these assholes have manners?

Really Bin? You have to escort Jessa out of the church? What a pussy.I would have kicked him in the nuts for that move.

Jill licking frosting off of Derrick's fingers...I feel defrauded.

[pinkelephant3]

This may not be the right place to ask this but I wonder if the girls landscape... If u know what I mean

[WTFFF]

Ben is already jealous, possessive and convinced that anyone touching his woman is grounds for a fight.  Jessa is the one marrying someone exactly like her dad.

 

Poor Jordyn.  How does JimBob have 19 kids and still can't communicate with them?  A five year old isn't going to understand "you're not losing a sister, you're gaining a brother," she's upset because Jill won't be living with her any more! 

[Angeltoes]

Only if they've seen landscaping on Pinterest.

Edited October 29, 2014 by Angeltoes

[MarysWetBar]

If anyone can do a freeze frame just after the guy pronounces them man and wife- you will be quite frightened to see MEchelle's attempt at crying ( a napkin on her eye) and Mr. Sewald looking as wild eyed as MEchelle. They both look like serial killers - either that or they are auditioning for Deliverance.

Edit- I meant just before.

My adult son was fooling around on his phone enduring the episode for the most part but was watching at that point and said " who's the crazy looking bastard with the zealot eyes, Mom?" Lol Edited October 29, 2014 by MarysWetBar

[MMLEsq]

Why are we running ?

 

 

Why is everyone sprinting back down the aisle -- WTH!?

 

 

Stampede out of the church was hilarious. They wanted to have some alone time for more smooching. But the others started running too.

 

It's been over 12 years since I got married.....is running down the aisle a "thing" now?

 

I guess I'm in the minority -- I didn't mind Erin's playing.  With a church that big and 1000+ people, I think the music also needed to be, for lack of a better word, "grand."  But, I generally like the Bates**, so perhaps I'm biased.

 

** I'm still waiting to see a courtship between a Bates and a Duggar.....it's bound to happen one day, right?

[Adeejay]

Worst kiss ever.  I'm surprised he impregnated her ten days later.  He had a lot to learn.

I hate to say it, but I don't think Jill is Derick's first.

[BitterApple]

Wow, so much to snark on.

 

The Good: 

Nice flowers, cute decorative details, Grandma Duggar and Amy looked beautiful, Cathy looked beautiful, Derick's brother's speech at the rehearsal dinner, Jessa's bitch face, Jana lying about the "happy tears".

 

The Bad:

Erin Bates' manic, aggressive piano playing. Who knew "Here Comes the Bride" could sound like a theme song for a slasher movie?

 

Jill's bare feet. Tacky and a safety hazard. She's lucky there were no loose staples or thumb tacks on the floor.

 

The little ones on the stage. Annoying and distracting. Of course Miracle Baby couldn't sit still for two seconds and flopped around like a fish out of water.

 

Bin and Josh's inferiority complexes on full display. Yeah, I'm sure Derick's groomsman were just dying to make a play for Jessa and Anna.

 

The melted root beer floats. The root beer wasn't even chilled, so the end result was probably lukewarm mush. Yum yum. 

 

The constant references to getting pregnant. What's the rush? Does the fate of mankind rest in Jill's uterus? Sheesh.

Edited October 29, 2014 by BitterApple

[PityFree]

This may not be the right place to ask this but I wonder if the girls landscape... If u know what I mean

my guess is no. In fact, they were probably told that their Lady Gardens were filthy, sin caves and to never look at them or touch them or think about them. I doubt they

even know that people trim the hedges.

Poor Derrick.

ETA: wait. Nevermind. Jill has seen her birthing moms' Lady Gardens, so maybe she knows about it.

Edited October 29, 2014 by PityFree

[WTFFF]

I believe he never had sex with anyone previously, but I highly doubt that was his first kiss.  At least there wasn't tongue involved, Josh.

[bigskygirl]

Here I go again!!!

 

I am so glad I miss Josh planting one on Anna.

 

The first kiss was so bad. JB announcing you may kiss the bride. Ewwww....

 

Jim Bob kept saying he is giving his daughter away bugs the heck out of me.

 

Josh saying he was kick out of the nest. I guess getting your grandmother's house, car lot, and a job because of your family name is being kicked out of the nest. *snicker and eye rolling number one*

 

I thought Amy look better than Michelle, Jill, and the bridemaids put together.

 

Cathy is a beautiful mother-in-law (take some lessons from her Michelle.)

 

Jill's constant giggling got on my last nerves.

 

Derick cannot do his own shaving. I am surprise Jill did not use hairspray on his hair.

 

JD creeps me out. He reminds me of a mean Bubba from bad 50's movies.

 

Ben grabbing Jessa because he wanted to walk her down the aisle after the ceremony was over. Seriously...what a toad

 

The running down the aisle after the ceremony. Keep it klassy.

 

Ben saying he is looking forward to his wedding day because getting married and first kiss is his favorite part of the day. *snicker number two*

 

And lets not forget my favorite part: Practice makes progress and progress makes babies. I could tell from the first kiss that a niece or nephew is coming soon. Thanks Michelle and Anna. *snicker and eye rolling number two*

[BradandJanet]

Credit to the poster who once said that Mechelle looked like one of those aluminum Christmas trees in that dress. My son and I were watching part of this show, and he almost laughed himself off the sofa when he saw the full vision of Michelle with the crunchy, ratty hair and the shiny aluminum dress. Scene stealer, that one.

[Andrews m]

So Derick's mom, sick as could be, managed to outclass Michelle.

[truthtalk2014]

This may not be the right place to ask this but I wonder if the girls landscape... If u know what I mean

OMG- what a great question!  I sincerely hope so!!!

[NausetGirl]

I call the sprinting disrespectful. As was Ben & Josh's actions coming down the aisle & Jill's bare feet. They are still in church, God's House. They acted (no pun intended) like they were doing the final act of a play. This family has no class!!

 

I was quite amazed at some shots that appeared to be taken from the balcony.  The sanctuary - well, that's what it would be called in my church - looked exactly like a stage, complete with theatrical lighting. Very odd to see.  And I could only think one thing after watching them race down the aisle after the kiss - that they simply can't wait to you know...

[bren70]

I hadn't noticed the interrupting before honestly, until I read the comments.  But after that - wow, you weren't kidding!  In one of the final THs, Jill interrupted Derick literally every few words.  And talked over everything he said.  Yeah he probably thinks it's cute now, but it'll make things awkward in social settings when they "fellowship" with other couples in the future.  *cringe*

[Darknight]

Is it just me or am I detecting a significant difference between daughters and sons when they get married? Seems to be there is much more of an impact on the family when a daughter marries.

Because she's the girl. Sister mom to her siblings. She's going from one headship to another, while the boys are their own headship.

[Chicklet]

Ugh that was almost painful. Who hated Michelle enough to make her look like they wrapped her in gray toilet paper?

Well I hate her so I would have done it but it wasn't me.

Jill's hair was awful, so was her dress.

They could have tuned the damned piano even if Erin Bates was going to beat it to death with her bare hands.

I can't even like the few nice spots in this show anymore. Though the flower girls are cute, minus the Miracle Josie.

[Ripley68]

I think the kiss was messed up by Jill, not Derrick.  He had a plan and didn't let her in on it, she just went for the kiss and he went to dip her.  Yeah, from watching the stuff behind the scenes and stuff said, they have never done more than hold hands.  He wanted to kiss her so bad before the ceremony.

 

Interesting, Jill didn't say "obey" in her vows. Thought that was a big thing?

 

ETA:  It really irks me when women don't put their engagement ring on the right hand at the wedding.  Man, Derrick got totally excited (if you know what I mean) when Jill sucked the frosting off his fingers.

 

Hmm, everyone is saying nieces and nephews are coming soon.....maybe they did fool around.  I don't know, I"m conflicted now.

Edited October 29, 2014 by Ripley68

[Almost 3000]

The Bates' do have a show on another channel now so that just might have something to do with it.

[Darknight]

Derek's jacket doesn't fit him properly.

and why are they using their filthy bare hands to scoop the ice cream?

Ewwwwwwww. Heath violation. Please remind me to never attend a fundie wedding

[bren70]

 

What was with the money on the dash?

It's a fundie tradition - the guests put dollars in the getaway truck/car.  

 

I can't believe I'm defending Ben and Josh but I read an article and Jill planned that whole leaving-the-ceremony thing.  Not only that everyone runs out, but also the part with Ben and Josh -  where they "claim" their girls away from the groomsmen.  

 

(I do believe that Ben was probably jealous of Jessa being partnered with some other guy though, no question.)

Edited October 29, 2014 by bren70

[SoSueMe]

I hope Jill washed her feet before she got in the honeymoon bed because they must have been filthy.

Every time she talks I wish I had one of those soaker water pistols and could douse her when she says "like." She'd be one little drowned rat.

When they got in the truck, was anybody else sing-songing in their head,"We know what you're gonna dooooo..."?

What was with the money on the dash?

One dollar bills, as far as I could see.

[Joe Jitsu913]

How many possums had to die to make Michelle's hair piece?

[NausetGirl]

Wow, so much to snark on.

 

The Good: 

Nice flowers, cute decorative details, Grandma Duggar and Amy looked beautiful, Cathy looked beautiful, Derick's brother's speech at the rehearsal dinner, Jessa's bitch face, Jana lying about the "happy tears".

 

The Bad:

Erin Bates' manic, aggressive piano playing. Who knew "Here Comes the Bride" could sound like a theme song for a slasher movie?

 

Jill's bare feet. Tacky and a safety hazard. She's lucky there were no loose staples or thumb tacks on the floor.

 

The little ones on the stage. Annoying and distracting. Of course Miracle Baby couldn't sit still for two seconds and flopped around like a fish out of water.

 

Bin and Josh's inferiority complexes on full display. Yeah, I'm sure Derick's groomsman were just dying to make a play for Jessa and Anna.

 

The melted root beer floats. The root beer wasn't even chilled, so the end result was probably lukewarm mush. Yum yum. 

 

The constant references to getting pregnant. What's the rush? Does the fate of mankind rest in Jill's uterus? Sheesh.

 

Could - Not - Agree - More.  With all of the above.

[BitterApple]

Ripley, I agree Jill screwed up the kiss. I think Derick was caught off guard when she dove at him and had to readjust. I also don't understand why everyone was sprinting down the aisle like the church was on fire. 

 

I wonder how much stray hair ended up in the root beer floats? None of the volunteers had their hair tied back.

[bren70]

I agree, I'm surprised there hasn't been a Bates/Duggar courtship.  You'd think out of 39 kids there'd be a couple that would be interested in each other.

[Barb23]

I thought I heard Boob say (not in this episode) that the girls spent the night before the wedding at a hotel. I agree Jill carrying in the pillow was weird.

Why did it not surprise me when the minister said "who gives this woman...." that Boob shouted "I DO!" Then he had to do his dorky guffaw & say "her mother & I."

I agree with whoever commented on the "newer" TLC producer. They definitely need a new one. All we have seen this season is flashbacks. Instead of showing Boob crying & proclaiming he didn't want to lose his favorite Jilly Muffin fifty times, they could have interviewed the Bates, Amy & Deanna and most importantly some of Derick's family & friends. You can't tell me that all of Derick's side didn't want to be on TV & that's why they weren't shown. Cathy's husband looked like he would have rather been anywhere but there. I can't blame him.

The title of this episode says it all : "JILL'S Wedding"

Who did she marry again?

[truthtalk2014]

I really really really hate to be mean.  I really kind of like Derrickdillard- but honestly, I have watched every kiss he gave Jill- and my honest thought is that he is not really into it - he is just going through the required motions.  He went to a normal high school and college and you know he has kissed before. 

 

To me, unfortunately for Jill, he did not seem into it at all.  It seemed like he was going through the motions, doing what he thinks he is supposed to do.  I saw Jill excited to kiss him and him not so much.  Crazy thoughts go through my head and I hope I am wrong. I really want Jill to be happy.  

 

Anyone else feeling this?  

[Darknight]

GROSS - talking about babies already!! Anna saying there should be some nieces and nephews soon, after seeing the first kiss. Do the fundies sit around with sex scorecards?

Wonder if Jill is going to rub it in Anna's face how she got pregnant on her wedding night and it took Anna four months. Ouch!

[RazzleberryPie]

Was the little girl crying in the hall one of Jill's buddies? How terrifying to know your mother is moving out of the house. No wonder Joy was so upset, too, because she now has to take on all of Jill's parenting duties.

 

Erin Bates sure knows how to attack a piano. That girl has some pent up frustration over something.

 

Michelle, no matter how lumpy you are under all those layers, you just can't shove 10 lbs of sugar in a 5 lb sack, even if it was off the clearance rack.

 

The whole Bin grabbing Jessa was just juvenile and eye-rolling, but you know she loved the attention and him acting 'jealous.' Anna/Josh = YOU"RE GROSS.