Bethenny Frankel: Skinny Girl

[zoeysmom]

36 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

I swear these HWs read our posts here. ZM has been saying that the real reason Bethenny is really so OTT mad about Luann/Tom relationship/engagement is because Luann beat her to the punch/ring on the show, that Luann stole Bethenny getting engaged "surprise" by announcing her engagement first. LOL Now, Luann is claiming the same thing! LOL http://www.allaboutthetea.com/2016/08/14/luann-de-lesseps-blasts-bethenny-for-hiding-her-married-boyfriend/

It does sound odd that she is hell bent on making Luann's engagement a downer.  It is kind of like Miss Skinnygirl brand protector, Luann's brand is Countess, and she constantly makes snide remarks about Luann reverting to being the Countess.  Why is it okay for Bethenny to make fun of Luann's brand?  Bethenny just does odd things like showing off a huge diamond on her left hand, so inquiring minds want to know if she is engaged.  Kind of like her fake romance with Eric Stonestreet, while she was banging married guy, all these denials.  If course if Dennis bought her the ring it is a step up from when she bought her own engagement ring as an investment.  Soooooo romantic. 

15 minutes ago, NewDigs said:

Oooh. Burn! Love LuLu dishing it. "Meany Pants Frankel" Love!

And I believe her.

Can't copy and paste (guess some sites have gotten proprietary?) but  B comes off as absolutely unhinged even years back. When an author, on B's talk show, was signing a book, presumably for Bryn, B went all ballistic about the author inscribing Brynn's name. "DON'T WRITE BRYN!!" Wow.

Good stuff. Thanks!

When I hear someone doesn't want a gift personalized, I think only one thing, "re-gift".  As in, "oh here is a signed copy of so and so's book."  All I can remember is Bethenny with the personalized giftbags, on Scary Island, a trip that wasn't hers, and Kelly's reaction.  Sounds like it must be a thing with the RHs. 

[NewDigs]

5 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

It does sound odd that she is hell bent on making Luann's engagement a downer.  It is kind of like Miss Skinnygirl brand protector, Luann's brand is Countess, and she constantly makes snide remarks about Luann reverting to being the Countess.  Why is it okay for Bethenny to make fun of Luann's brand?  Bethenny just does odd things like showing off a huge diamond on her left hand, so inquiring minds want to know if she is engaged.  Kind of like her fake romance with Eric Stonestreet, while she was banging married guy, all these denials.  If course if Dennis bought her the ring it is a step up from when she bought her own engagement ring as an investment.  Soooooo romantic. 

When I hear someone doesn't want a gift personalized, I think only one thing, "re-gift".  As in, "oh here is a signed copy of so and so's book."  All I can remember is Bethenny with the personalized giftbags, on Scary Island, a trip that wasn't hers, and Kelly's reaction.  Sounds like it must be a thing with the RHs. 

I must be getting soft.

After I posted about the inscription I thought that maybe Bethy wanted it inscribed to someone else. lol 

[zoeysmom]

11 minutes ago, NewDigs said:

I must be getting soft.

After I posted about the inscription I thought that maybe Bethy wanted it inscribed to someone else. lol 

I also wondered if it were being inscribed to Bethenny and Bryn. 

[NewDigs]

LuLu made it sound, to me, like it was the "Bryn" factor that tipped her very fragile scales.

I'm stickin' with that. lol

[islandgal140]

12 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

No way in hell is Ramona going, she would probably count an wedding invite as a date from Tom or Tom flirting with her.  

 

12 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Luann through the gauntlet down with Bethenny saying Bethenny has nothing going on but tumors and so she decided to focus on she and Tom.

You win this round Zoeysmom. LOL!

If B is suggesting or has a big hand in casting a new housewife ... um prepare for the crazy. Isn't she she same one that recommended Aviva? She is only gonna to cast someone that makes her look sane and rational by comparison, which is something she desperately needs. She needs a foil to make her look better. Right now she is the most spitballs crazy of the cast and has a lot of negative feedback.

Hate to bring back the friend discussion, but I do also go with the most intimate definition of the word and frankly, I don't believe that Bethenny has a lot of friends that fit that definition. Properly the ones who do live in Florida and you can likely count how many on one hand and have some fingers left over. Bethenny strikes me more as  someone who makes strategic alliances as opposed to 'friendships.' Carole will likely get tossed over as soon as something better, more shiny and useful comes along. 

Read Luann, Read. I hope she mentioned the same things at the reunion. 

You know one of the most telling scenes this season is probably something no one else gave the 2nd thought to but probably encapsulates all this wedding/engagement stuff. It was the scene at Carole's apt with the psychic. When B is being her typical rude self and the psychic read her and said she would never marry again, I completely saw the crestfallen and somewhat shocked look on her face before she slipped into her typical bravado mode and acted like "good, I don't want to ever again' like a toddler reacting to a friend saying they couldn't play with a new toy. I just knew it was a lie than and there.  She wants desperately to be married to a man of means and be seen as being wanted like the other typical UES marrieds and a power couple. 

[islandgal140]

On 6/29/2016 at 6:35 PM, ElDosEquis said:

The reason that Methenny and Carol hate Lulu is kinda simple.

Meth hates Lu because she doesn't have any obligations - Carol poached Adam, so Lu is pissed about that. Meth and Care-hole join to get their "Mean Girl Super Powers" working and turn into MGSP Assholes in the process. Until Beffeny spews out some 'truthism' about Carol and THEY get into it.

This is my very fondest wish. Please make it so universe. 

[chenoa333]

I just don't understand why Bethany would come back to this reality show to portray (or show her true self) as the IMO crazy fucked up bitch that I see.

She said many moons ago that her main objective for doing the show was to pimp her skinny girl margaritas. It worked .

So now she's a mother/divorcee and she's doing nothing but behaving like a psycho bitch. I know Bravo pays her well for this behavior but for God's sake, what kind of legacy are you leaving for your daughter. 

Poor Bryn, not even in high school yet. All the videos and social media crap of Bethany behaving in many degrees of wrong. 

It just makes me sad for Bryn :(

[CriticalMass]

I love that Kelly Bensimon was asked her opinion of the action at the Coldplay gig. Even today, Kelly is asked to comment. That has to hurt Beth's feelings. Isn't Kelly irrelevant? Apparently not. I, from far away, am enjoying the "who can call the gossip rags faster" jockeying (Beth, back to her roots). I think Beth pays her "interns", whereas Sonja with a sexy J promises bigger & better "things"; Beth's interns are out at night collecting intel on all the players. Beth reminds me of that jaded nasty bitch that put on fashion shows, her name escapes me. 

[Almost 3000]

1 hour ago, CriticalMass said:

Beth reminds me of that jaded nasty bitch that put on fashion shows, her name escapes me.

Oh yes, wasn't she the one the had internships/jobs for "The Hills" cast and then spun off to her own show? I think her name was Kelly something and now I'm going abscess over her last name.

Edited August 16, 2016 by Almost 3000
In 2010, Kelly Cutrone Executive Produced 'Bravo's Kell on Earth.

[LIMOM]

14 hours ago, chenoa333 said:

I just don't understand why Bethany would come back to this reality show to portray (or show her true self) as the IMO crazy fucked up bitch that I see.

She said many moons ago that her main objective for doing the show was to pimp her skinny girl margaritas. It worked .

So now she's a mother/divorcee and she's doing nothing but behaving like a psycho bitch. I know Bravo pays her well for this behavior but for God's sake, what kind of legacy are you leaving for your daughter. 

Poor Bryn, not even in high school yet. All the videos and social media crap of Bethany behaving in many degrees of wrong. 

It just makes me sad for Bryn :(

She enjoys her tough persona imo.

She called herself Gotti on her radio show.

I don't see how this meshes with her skinny girl brand but she seems to think that being ruthless and her motto of "zero fucks given" is her thing/brand, now.

[chenoa333]

Shut the fuck up Skinny Girl. You talk about Luann and her engagement to Tom saying something about how Luanne is singing "somewhere over the rainbow"and implying Luann is delusional about her fiance.

Hey guess what Bethany (or however the fuck you spell your name) you were singing the exact same song when you met Jason Hoppy and look what happened to you. Now you hate Jason. Where's your fucking rainbow Skinny Girl?

You are a spiteful hateful angry bitch. So you had a tough childhood. Lots of peopele do but we are adults now and we learn ON OUR OWN how to make a better life and treat people with respect ... not the way you were treated when you were (boo hoo fucking hoo) a child.

I am so bored and tired of hearing B and her bullshit. GO AWAY. Spend more of your time OFF of RHONY and come up with your next product to pimp. How aboutFatty Girl Margaritas.... for women like you and Jules (sorry Jules, I do like you but I'm throwing you under the bus here) who need to increase your BMI.

Get the f off my TV Bethany or Bethennay or (once again) however the hell you spell your stupid ass name.

Thanks to everyone here for letting me vent :) Love my Previously TV peeps!

Edited August 18, 2016 by chenoa333
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[Knuckles]

1 hour ago, chenoa333 said:

You are a spiteful hateful angry bitch.

Yes, she is. And her soul has shriveled into dust. I'm surprised Jamie Foxx's "people" want to drink free booze at her house. You'd think they would have more self respect.

[motorcitymom65]

On August 13, 2016 at 1:19 PM, zoeysmom said:

Why would she think her husband was having an affair before filming began?   When did the affair begin?  The husband is still denying having an affair, even though the other woman's husband has acknowledged Michael is seeing his estranged wife.  Others' perception of another's marriage always become so much more relevant when the couple splits.  Since the divorce rate is 50%, higher in RH circles, wagering an opinion the marriage is in trouble, doesn't seem right, he may be having an affair are the safe bets.  Ramona, Luann, Bethenny have divorced either while on the show or after appearing on the show.  Kristen came on the show discussing marital discord and her husband got busted for Ashley Madison.  Even Jill claims the show was taking a toll on her marriage.  The only who seems to have avoided the curse are Alex and Simon and Heather and Jonathan (and Ramona didn't like either marriage).   

The point remains and it is the only point that matters, Jules is saying she did not have a conversation with anyone before filming began that she and Michael were divorcing.   We have no idea when the affair began.   They were breaking down Bethenny's assertion that she had heard it from a mutual friend.  So if Jules did not have the conversation, if she did not know of her husband's affair until January, the month before filming ended, it doesn't matter who Bethenny heard it from because Jules is saying the conversation did not exist.  If Bethenny had said "their mutual friend" saw problems that would be another thing.  That is someone's opinion, not a conversation that someone claimed to have had with the principles.

It seems Iike two different issues are getting confused here as far as I can see. The first issue is whether or not Jules knew that her dickhead husband was cheating on her. The second is whether or not they were already heading for a divorce when the season began. They are two very different things. 

As far as I have read, she has never denied that she talked with anyone about being ready to divorce her husband. She simply denied that Beth could know this, because they have no mutual friends. While I am impressed with the amount of reflection that has taken place to try and decider what a "friend" is, clearly she is either lying, confused, drunk, high or something, when she says that she and Beth have no mutual friends. What about Ramona and Dorinda? Surely they would qualify as friends to both? I have zero doubt that there are several other "six degrees of separation" examples out there. 

The second issue is whether or not that Jules knew dickhead was cheating. She has most certainly denied knowing this. Not hard for me to believe at all. The fact that she didn't know he was cheating doesn't mean that she didn't know the marriage was in trouble or that she wanted out  We saw all kinds of shitty behavior by him, and certainly she was complaining about him to almost everyone that she brushed up against. Since I will assume that he didn't just suddenly start being a dickhead when she landed this gig, there is more than enough reason to assume that they had a shitty marriage a long time ago

[ScoobieDoobs]

OK, this is truly bizarre.  DM quotes Bethenny about coming back next season-

'It was very, very negative and I didn't enjoy it at all. Something very dramatic happened … that questioned my integrity. If someone questions my business or my integrity I take it really seriously — I don't just gloss over it,' said the Skinnygirl mogul.   

'I live my life honestly. You have 50% of the cast that has a whole taboo, "police line, do not cross" section of their life that is not discussed on camera and never has been. For legal issues and liability issues, Bravo doesn't need to bring it up and it's a difficult line to ride, and that may be why I don't come back.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3745828/Bethenny-Frankel-appears-house-hunting-NYC-beau-Dennis-shields-admitting-leave-RHONY.html

First off, ANY & ALL negativity this season -- and man, there sure has been a deeply uncomfortable, difficult & unpleasant to watch, shit-ton of it -- has ALL come from Bethenny.  So what in the fuckety fuck is she talking about?  AND what in the hell is she complaining about, as far as others not revealing stuff, when she has NEVER once mentioned this person in the DM piece (who she may have been seeing when filming).  Sheesh, what a fuckin' hypocrite!  

I get what this is about.  This is her whining because she's probably now getting a lotta heat & blowback for her cruel, horrible behavior this season.  And she's shown before, she really can't tolerate the kind of nasty negativity thrown at her, that she so easily, casually, cruelly & dismissively dishes out to anyone & everyone near her.  Ugh, she's so horrible.  Oh, I can see her not wanting to say much (or anything) about this relationship.  So the way to avoid it is to bail on coming back next season.  Maybe this character she's involved with doesn't wanna participate in the show, which would make her participation sticky at best.

Buh-bye, Bethenny.  Get the fuck lost, will ya?  You can suffer the same fate as Kelly & be in DM every day (for absolutely NO discernable reason).  Whatevs.  Just as long you're out & off this show, I'll do a happy dance.  I want the show back to the one I used to enjoy before you destroyed it with your horribleness.  Now go give Jillzy a call, Satan Andy.  Cuz she & she alone will save the show for you.  She's waiting for your call, Satan Andy.  Call her immediately!  My guess is she could re-cast Carole's spot in a half second (please, please, oh please) & write scripts for the next 5 seasons in 5 minutes.  What's to even think about, Satan Andy?

Ah well, in any case, God, it would be such wonderful, wonderful, wonderful news if Bethenny quits the show!

Edited August 18, 2016 by ScoobieDoobs

[tenativelyyours]

Yeah.  This is pretty much her exit strategy right alongside Donald Drumpf claiming the only way he can lose in the fall is if the election is rigged. 

Out comes her protecting her business.  How she is too full of integrity to let someone else/the show drag it down.  All the while she is jumping up and down on it trying to make it fit down the sewage drain.

 

I'm betting protecting her child will be next.  I mean again.  But she seems really bent on trying to create these stalking horse arguments.  And to try to build it on how honest and open she is?  How about last season when that creep she was dating, that she knew had a tawdry public persona but deep enough pockets for her not to care, never got a mention in between the boo-hooing over her lonely homeless vagina? 

After reading a bit of the Amy Schumer book with the intro to her vagina, I'm starting to think Frankelstein's Monster doesn't have fibroids; considering her taste in men, I think her "vagina" (or in all other women, her uterus) tried to commit hari-kari  (imagery moment not a biology one, work with me).

[Knuckles]

There is something amusingly ironic in that Bethy tried to hide her whole life from the show, while tearing down Lu's, and succeeded in totally exposing herself as utterly vicious and soulless. She misjudged her audience...thinking the rest of us were as cruel and fucked-up as she is. And like most bullies...when her play fails, she'll slink away. At least she has found her level...she's hooked up with that bottom-feeding shylock, whose business model is lower than a payday loan scam.

[zoeysmom]

7 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

It seems Iike two different issues are getting confused here as far as I can see. The first issue is whether or not Jules knew that her dickhead husband was cheating on her. The second is whether or not they were already heading for a divorce when the season began. They are two very different things. 

As far as I have read, she has never denied that she talked with anyone about being ready to divorce her husband. She simply denied that Beth could know this, because they have no mutual friends. While I am impressed with the amount of reflection that has taken place to try and decider what a "friend" is, clearly she is either lying, confused, drunk, high or something, when she says that she and Beth have no mutual friends. What about Ramona and Dorinda? Surely they would qualify as friends to both? I have zero doubt that there are several other "six degrees of separation" examples out there. 

The second issue is whether or not that Jules knew dickhead was cheating. She has most certainly denied knowing this. Not hard for me to believe at all. The fact that she didn't know he was cheating doesn't mean that she didn't know the marriage was in trouble or that she wanted out  We saw all kinds of shitty behavior by him, and certainly she was complaining about him to almost everyone that she brushed up against. Since I will assume that he didn't just suddenly start being a dickhead when she landed this gig, there is more than enough reason to assume that they had a shitty marriage a long time ago

It is not whether any one knew or suspected they were headed for divorce the issue is pretty clear, Jules when asks denies telling anyone she was headed for a divorce before the season began.  Jules was asked about a specific comment at a specific period of time and she denied making the comment.

If she told no one  before filming of a pending divorce the mutual friends question is moot.   Dorinda denied having any conversations with Jules about a divorce prior to the season beginning.  I don't think the rest of the cast (with the exception of Bethenny meeting her) knew her or were friends with her, so they would not have been mutual friends.  I can't imagine that Jules and Ramona have any sort of relationship that would qualify them as friends. Again speculating on who is a mutual friend is moot because Jules denies ever making the comment.

It is all about Bethenny being a Know-It-All and her intelligence gathering activities.  If Jules denies saying it and Bethenny has, as she calls it, "hearsay" information.  To me, all these folks like Jill Zarin and Bethenny who claim they knew the marriage was in trouble is just kind of after the fact fodder.  Whn Bethenny was asked the question, she could have just as easily said, "I was not surprised by the divorce."

[chenoa333]

On 8/15/2016 at 7:35 PM, Almost 3000 said:

Oh yes, wasn't she the one the had internships/jobs for "The Hills" cast and then spun off to her own show? I think her name was Kelly something and now I'm going abscess over her last name.

the lovely Kelly Cutrone

Edited August 18, 2016 by chenoa333

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

8 hours ago, tenativelyyours said:

 

Out comes her protecting her business.  How she is too full of integrity to let someone else/the show drag it down.  All the while she is jumping up and down on it trying to make it fit down the sewage drain.

 

This is a beautiful statement.

As for Scoobiedoobs post (the multi quote feature isn't working for me? idk) I totally agree that the second shit sticks to Bethenny she bails. She blames everyone else that this season is negative?? ?HELLO???? There is such a pattern with her. No ownership.  She wrecked cars for both of her parents and didn't like the consequences, changed her name from Frankel to Parisella back to Frankel (why?), moved around in schools, grew up moving racetrack to racetrack, went to college a couple of different places, is on her 2nd divorce, left Jules' house and Dorinda's house without saying goodbye because she didn't "feel like it" and "just wanted to get the fuck out of there" - this said on her radio show  yesterday- Bethenny just always has other options. 

[zoeysmom]

What is disturbing to me about Bethenny is she now is dictating how Luann should be reacting to the news.  She said, "she is just a whore, reap what you sow. . . ,"  and then continues with she should have been talking about the betrayal not the public humiliation and somehow that makes Luann's hurt less real?  When you are on the receiving end of a massive hurt, I think it is implied you are hurt.  I don't recall Luann getting engaged and stepping out on her man or why reap what you sow is even relevant.  Bethenny sounds like she needs a reason to excuse her boorish base behavior and she is blaming the victim.  There is only one victim in this scenario and that is Luann.  She didn't deserve to have Tom cheat on her publicly  or otherwise.  Laying odds about whether or not the wedding takes place is just tacky.

Bethenny complains of her integrity being questioned.  Maybe she reflect on her treatment of others.  When Bethenny constantly carps about her business being questioned she fails to see that as a figurehead and the heart and soul of the company people look at your behavior.  When she went from underdog to a meteoric rise in the business world, she failed to see the importance of treating others well.  I believe her stolen quote, "pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered," may be the result of Bethenny and her greed for fame.  Being nice to your driver or caterer is does not a magnanimous person make-being fair and kind to your contemporaries is where the true test lies.

[islandgal140]

39 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

What is disturbing to me about Bethenny is she now is dictating how Luann should be reacting to the news.  She said, "she is just a whore, reap what you sow. . . ,"

Well if that is even remotely true, Bethenny's  got a lot to look forward to. 

11 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

OK, this is truly bizarre.  DM quotes Bethenny about coming back next season-

'It was very, very negative and I didn't enjoy it at all. Something very dramatic happened … that questioned my integrity. If someone questions my business or my integrity I take it really seriously — I don't just gloss over it,' said the Skinnygirl mogul.   

'I live my life honestly. You have 50% of the cast that has a whole taboo, "police line, do not cross" section of their life that is not discussed on camera and never has been. For legal issues and liability issues, Bravo doesn't need to bring it up and it's a difficult line to ride, and that may be why I don't come back.

Does she even hear herself speak?!? There was a time when she had the semblance of self-awareness, but now, she seems to be full on Marie Antoinette. Let them eat cake indeed! 

She is acting like some martyr with a cloth to her forehead on a fainting couch after a season of being persecuted. Where else is she gonna shill her swill and other shit? How likely is Bravo to give her her own show now that her fan fave status is in the shitter? Especially after she herself admitted to acting like a loony toon fool, or should I say gangsta (eyeroll), at the reunion. 

Lawd, I just want to see one clip of the reunion. Just one clip! 

[ScoobieDoobs]

Look, if she wanted to be 100% honest (cuz well, she's always just sooooo "brutally honest", right?), she would let us see how she really felt about telling Lu of Tom's behavior with other women.  Her crying about telling Lu this shit was as much lousy acting as Alex ever did.  

We know exactly who Bethenny is now.  She wasn't always this way.  But for whatever reasons she is this way now.  She's exceptionally bitter & angry, and for whatever reasons she seems to want to slaughter everyone around -- or at the very least treat them as miserably & cruelly as she can.  It's awful to watch, but it is what we're seeing.  She can't spin it any other way.  It's just ridiculous denial on her part, and she comes off like she's in some looney land of delusions -- like Sonja or Kelly.

I don't know why Bethenny, but you've morphed into a really bitter, horrible, supremely nasty, angry, and completely humorless woman, with no self-awareness whatsoever.  And one I don't wanna watch.  Whatever your reasons for quitiing the show, I just don't give a fuck (and I say that proudly like you, hun).  Just go.

[zoeysmom]

28 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Look, if she wanted to be 100% honest (cuz well, she's always just sooooo "brutally honest", right?), she would let us see how she really felt about telling Lu of Tom's behavior with other women.  Her crying about telling Lu this shit was as much lousy acting as Alex ever did.  

We know exactly who Bethenny is now.  She wasn't always this way.  But for whatever reasons she is this way now.  She's exceptionally bitter & angry, and for whatever reasons she seems to want to slaughter everyone around -- or at the very least treat them as miserably & cruelly as she can.  It's awful to watch, but it is what we're seeing.  She can't spin it any other way.  It's just ridiculous denial on her part, and she comes off like she's in some looney land of delusions -- like Sonja or Kelly.

I don't know why Bethenny, but you've morphed into a really bitter, horrible, supremely nasty, angry, and completely humorless woman, with no self-awareness whatsoever.  And one I don't wanna watch.  Whatever your reasons for quitiing the show, I just don't give a fuck (and I say that proudly like you, hun).  Just go.

I think Bethenny has always been a show off and can't stand the fact Luann is getting attention-a lot of which Bethenny brought on through her treatment of Luann. Bethenny waxing on about Luann just doing it for the press and publicity reeks a bit of sour grapes.  Bethenny claims she can't tolerate the fine line between the others verboden areas of life not allowed on the show, I believe she said 50% of the cast, yet she hides behind that same verboden curtain when it suits her.  Take yesterday, there were three stories making the news about Bethenny, one was about Skinnygirl vs. Skinny Cow, the second was about her distancing herself from the show and the third was a well posed Daily Mail story featuring the verboden married boyfriend and daughter, making as the happy family.

Obviously  Bethenny was operating with spin control on maximum, yesterday.  The first story about her business and being a victim, the second being her rising above the negativity of the show-the same show where she was driving the bus and tossing the bodies in front of it and lastly a little redemption story about how she puts her life out there., complete with pictures of her daughter and boyfriend.  I know she employs three PR people, they seem to be working overtime. 

[WireWrap]

18 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I think Bethenny has always been a show off and can't stand the fact Luann is getting attention-a lot of which Bethenny brought on through her treatment of Luann. Bethenny waxing on about Luann just doing it for the press and publicity reeks a bit of sour grapes.  Bethenny claims she can't tolerate the fine line between the others verboden areas of life not allowed on the show, I believe she said 50% of the cast, yet she hides behind that same verboden curtain when it suits her.  Take yesterday, there were three stories making the news about Bethenny, one was about Skinnygirl vs. Skinny Cow, the second was about her distancing herself from the show and the third was a well posed Daily Mail story featuring the verboden married boyfriend and daughter, making as the happy family.

Obviously  Bethenny was operating with spin control on maximum, yesterday.  The first story about her business and being a victim, the second being her rising above the negativity of the show-the same show where she was driving the bus and tossing the bodies in front of it and lastly a little redemption story about how she puts her life out there., complete with pictures of her daughter and boyfriend.  I know she employs three PR people, they seem to be working overtime. 

Sorry, but if you compare how much or how little these HWs share about their real lives on camera/on the show, Bethenny shares the least out of all of them. We didn't really see anything of her off camera life, nothing....well, except for a case of fibroids that she tried to make into her being near death's door. LOL

[ScoobieDoobs]

Does she even mention this married character on her Twitter?  Still say she's a total fuckin' hypocrite.  She can slam anyone & everyone for any little thing, but she's above & beyond the same treatment?  Uh, no, Bethenny.

I hope she gets slammed good at the reunion.  Enough so she doesn't wanna come back.  I am curious if Satan Andy will be dodging the flying bullets -- or will he try to protect her?  He doesn't have a good history of being loyal to anyone.  I hope he abandons her & lets the bitches ravage her.  Now that I could enjoy.

Edited August 18, 2016 by ScoobieDoobs

[tenativelyyours]

The Monster also is trapped in a thought circle of her own making.  Over and over again we see her pushing against someone and then pouncing awkwardly on that person's reaction in a way that is over the top and many times completely misses the mark.  Heather is a pushy person who needs attention and likes to get it by taking charge of other people.  But she also does as a form of engagement, not just a flexing of the ego.  The Monster though sees Heather's attempt to 'engage' over the meal at Dorinda's last season as an attempt to establish some sort of primacy.  And in a way it was, Heather liked making sure the rest knew that Dorinda's house or not, it was also her stomping grounds.  Heather was in a sense playing hostess when Dorinda was doing fine on her own and would be the best one to suss out what the non-fish options were. 

But the Monster took it down a different path and made it into an attack on her.  Nope.  Not a villager with a torch in sight.  But the Monster had to escalate it and make it about her poor broken homeless life and child.  Because she can't help but see where she thinks Heather might have been going.  Because that is exactly what she would have done. 

She lobs insults about business Kristen's way thinking she has another Kelly on hand and Kristen pushes back in a way that I still am surprised was polite and even respectful all the while simply wanting resolution and even just an honest explanation from this Self-Proclaimed Business and Branding Guru.   And The Monster again projects on Kristen what she herself would do, attack and attack and attack which just made her look like a cowardly shit talking no spine fool when she scampers away to another corner to then whisper and snicker over how silly Kristen is and she doesn't have time for it.  Cause she has more shit to stir and more responsibility for that shit stirring to avoid.

Heck she did with Kelly.  Kelly was a huge self-absorbed snot.  She is one of those people bordering on idiot that everyone gives a gold star to for simply breathing.  But from the start The Monster saw Kelly coming on and being someone she had to take down.  Because she knew in Kelly's position and from what she probably gathered would be Kelly's narrative (insider to fashion and a higher level of party than the show's cast usually enjoyed for the cameras), how she would go about pissing on everything to mark her territory.  Remember how she constantly hand waved Kelly's fashion interests as being so vapid and so not The Frankelstein's Monster?  Yet the season wrapped and who pops up in a BRAVO-centric Blue Fly campaign to coincide with the still at BRAVO latest season of Project Runway?  Who awkwardly tries to wrap her jaws around her proclamations of joy being a fashionista to the extreme like a snapping turtle trying to eat a tennis ball. 

 

I'm starting to think that while Zarin orchestrated the whole feud, the Monster was not so much blindsided and unable to figure it out, but rather saw at least halfway there what was going on and decided to use it to her advantage.   I think well before that season ended, the Monster saw exactly what ZArin was trying to do and instead of reconciliation, she decided to use it to her own benefit.  And I wonder if that is why Zarin was so hurt at that coffee meet when the Monstershook her head at any idea of a make up.  Don't get me wrong, I think it is incredibly arrogant and stupid to think you could initiate something like that on camera and then expect a hug and an 'all better' for a warm scene as the season wrapped.    Because when all is said and done, what Zarin did?  Was what Frankelstein's Monster would do if she had the standing in the show the time.  And kind of what she has done this season.  She has picked a non-existent moral point that Luann can never win from and gone in kicking and screaming with a fury.

 

Luann is a slut and man stealer.  Because that is what the Monster knows she herself will be painted as when her own tawrdy affair comes out.

She has these pics and either Luann dumps Tom which proves how right the monster is in his foibles and flaws which are really Luann's in the end for the Monster's agenda, or Luann tries to still make it work which gives the Monster more snide talking head 'I told you sos" .  and all the while I think a huge part of the over the top fury the Monster exhibits comes from the fact that she knows exacty how she would go after another cast mate if that cast mate was doing what the Monster is doing.  Being the other woman.  Being the side piece.  Being the burner phone at 2 am.  Slut.  Fuckbag.  Man stealer.  all those things she tried to paint Luann as when the tabloids had a full sized portrait of the Monster just waiting to hit the press.

[ScoobieDoobs]

9 hours ago, Knuckles said:

There is something amusingly ironic in that Bethy tried to hide her whole life from the show, while tearing down Lu's, and succeeded in totally exposing herself as utterly vicious and soulless. She misjudged her audience...thinking the rest of us were as cruel and fucked-up as she is. And like most bullies...when her play fails, she'll slink away. At least she has found her level...she's hooked up with that bottom-feeding shylock, whose business model is lower than a payday loan scam.

Oh,  ITA that she misjudged us & thought we would be amused & entertained by her relentlessly cruel, vicious, evil horribleness.  But don't forget about Satan Andy.  He's the producer of this nasty season we've had to endure -- the season of the Bethenny monster.  So clearly, he also assumed we would love this nasty shit.

You know, I really wonder if both Bethenny & Satan Andy assumed viewers liked seeing Bethenny squash Kelly, so they both figured turning her foul meanness & viciousness & nastiness on anyone & everyone near her would make the show really awesome.  Uh, it doesn't.  All it makes for is vile cruelty that's ugly as hell to watch.  OK, so you got better ratings, Satan Andy, but at what cost?

Quit the show, Bethenny!  Quit the show, Bethenny!  Quit the show, Bethenny!  C'mon, if we all say it enough, maybe it'll come true & we can extinguish the Bethenny monster off the show.  Now, if only she'd drag Carole off with her.  Oh, what do ya wanna bet, if Bethenny does leave the show -- Carole never sees her again.  Some friendship.  Carole, you are the biggest phony baloney on the show.

[mwell345]

On 8/10/2016 at 2:43 PM, breezy424 said:

The most disturbing part of this is the venom of Beth's responses to Jules and Dorinda.  And the threat:  There is so much more that I know. These two know who and what I'm talking about so let them keep going. There will be a stop. Trust.  Wow.  She's that angry because Jules says they don't have any mutual friends and Dorinda didn't seem to buy it, either. "Bethenny seems to have a mutual friend for all of us everywhere in the world," she said on WWHL, which sounded like a dig relating to the intel the Skinnygirl mogul said she has on Luann de Lesseps' fiancé on Wednesday night's episode of RHONY. "I think she can see dead people as well." 

There's something seriously wrong with her.  This is about whether or not Beth knew that Jules was getting a divorce.  Jules.... And because Jules disagrees, in Beth's mind it becomes a personal attack on her.  Yet, Beth is the one who brought up her revelation about Jules' marriage which is none of Beth's business to begin with. 

The thing is, all Bethenny had to do was film the season, cash her  million dollar check and head for her house in the Hamptons without another word.  She would still be criticized for the way she handled the season; but that would fade.  

For some reason, though,  she insists on still going after her castmates (with Carole's assistance) via her radio show, interviews and twitter.

Why is it so important to her to be sure everyone knows she knew Jules marriage was in trouble before anyone else knew? Why make veiled threats like "there's so much more that I know"?

It's like an obsession - does she sit around all day and read blogs and tweets? Where does she find the time?  She's a successful business woman, apparently in a relationship, in her 40's, has a child,  and yet she acts like she's 13. 

Even on RHONJ, during the height of the miserable "Gorga/Wakile/Manzo/Laurita Gang Up On Theresa" season, the cast seemed to let it go shortly after the reunion and go on with their lives. But Bethenny seems incapable of letting anything go until the entire universe tells her she was "right" about whatever it is she is harping on.

Yes, something very wrong there. She is one warped human being.

[ryebread]

5 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

We know exactly who Bethenny is now.  She wasn't always this way.  

Yes, she was.

She was cruel and vicious to Kelly.  But everyone thought Kelly was cuckoo so Beth's behavior largely got swept under the rug and/or she was high fived because Kelly was so weird and no one liked her.  Or because Kelly could be vicious, too.  But Kelly's viciousness paled in comparison to Beth's.  Always. IMO.

I feel the same about Carole.  Her vileness was hidden because the person she was vile to was Vile Aviva.  Plus, Carole had the advantage of being up the butt of Fan Fave Heather.  THIS season, people started to recognize how awful Carole is/always was. 

ALTHOUGH....now that she's being sympathetic to Lu and got scolded by the much hated Bethenny for being late, I see that viewers are starting to come around to Carole again.  LOL

Let's just face the facts...every single one of these "Ladies" are a certain somethin' somethin' to sign up for these shows in the first place. 

[motorcitymom65]

9 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

It is not whether any one knew or suspected they were headed for divorce the issue is pretty clear, Jules when asks denies telling anyone she was headed for a divorce before the season began.  Jules was asked about a specific comment at a specific period of time and she denied making the comment.

If she told no one  before filming of a pending divorce the mutual friends question is moot.   Dorinda denied having any conversations with Jules about a divorce prior to the season beginning.  I don't think the rest of the cast (with the exception of Bethenny meeting her) knew her or were friends with her, so they would not have been mutual friends.  I can't imagine that Jules and Ramona have any sort of relationship that would qualify them as friends. Again speculating on who is a mutual friend is moot because Jules denies ever making the comment.

It is all about Bethenny being a Know-It-All and her intelligence gathering activities.  If Jules denies saying it and Bethenny has, as she calls it, "hearsay" information.  To me, all these folks like Jill Zarin and Bethenny who claim they knew the marriage was in trouble is just kind of after the fact fodder.  Whn Bethenny was asked the question, she could have just as easily said, "I was not surprised by the divorce."

We might be talking about 2 different articles, because in the one I'm talking about she never says she wasn't headed for divorce at the beginning of the season. I'm specifically addressing the comments in the one linked above. She never says anything about not planning or discussing a divorce. Just that Beth couldn't have had that information because they have no mutual friends. This from the article: 

"Though Bethenny Frankel previously said on WWHL that she knew about Jules' impending divorce before this season of RHONYstarted filming, Jules said she doesn't see how that's possible. "Because we have a 'mutual friend.' We have no mutual friends," she shot back.""

My answer wouldn't be that its not possible Beth could know this because there is no who could have shared the information, but that Beth couldn't know this because it never happened. I don't mean to wordsmith it to death, but it seems like that is more and more how the HW's get analyzed. 

I also think it important to remember that dickhead Micheal filed for divorce a full month before it was reported in the press and Jules made her statement. The same week we saw the first real glimpse of real issues in their marriage.  Coincidence? I don't think so. 

[LilaFowler]

ITA, mwell345.  She is disturbed and needs real therapy.  It's probably too late for her but she needs to start.   Or maybe the solution is that she loses all her money -- she was kinder when she was poor.  Perhaps this cheating loser will swindle her out of everything?  One can hope.

[zoeysmom]

34 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

We might be talking about 2 different articles, because in the one I'm talking about she never says she wasn't headed for divorce at the beginning of the season. I'm specifically addressing the comments in the one linked above. She never says anything about not planning or discussing a divorce. Just that Beth couldn't have had that information because they have no mutual friends. This from the article: 

"Though Bethenny Frankel previously said on WWHL that she knew about Jules' impending divorce before this season of RHONYstarted filming, Jules said she doesn't see how that's possible. "Because we have a 'mutual friend.' We have no mutual friends," she shot back.""

My answer wouldn't be that its not possible Beth could know this because there is no who could have shared the information, but that Beth couldn't know this because it never happened. I don't mean to wordsmith it to death, but it seems like that is more and more how the HW's get analyzed. 

I also think it important to remember that dickhead Micheal filed for divorce a full month before it was reported in the press and Jules made her statement. The same week we saw the first real glimpse of real issues in their marriage.  Coincidence? I don't think so. 

I am talking about the tape-it has the full conversation.  It was Dorinda asking Jules questions from viewers.  Dorinda also went into a diatribe about how she and Jules talked and nothing like that was discussed. Dorinda then said something about how Bethenny 'sees dead people'. Dorinda and Jules apparently think Beth is full of it.  My original post was about how wise all these people are who come out after the fact and say they knew or had a feeling about a divorce happening when I think most likely it is an opinion-not as statement from the parties.

[zoeysmom]

Three new Bethenny takes today:  http://www.eonline.com/news/788450/why-bethenny-frankel-told-luann-de-lesseps-about-the-photos-while-on-real-housewives-of-new-york-city-camera

Oops that wasn't enough of an explanation or justification:  http://www.etonline.com/news/195945_exclusive_bethenny_frankel_on_telling_luann_de_lesseps_what_she_knew_i_wouldn_t_do_it_again/

Now onto Dennis and why she hasn't danced on the tables celebrating her divorce:  http://www.people.com/article/bethenny-frankel-talks-considering-marriage-finalizing-divorce

Retracting her leaving the series sentiment:  http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/bethenny-why-i-told-luann-de-lesseps-her-fiance-cheated-on-her-w435081  More on Dennis-guess those photos stirred up interest.

Somehow mixing pimping her new drink and defending being a miserable human being don't seem to mesh.  BTW the garnish on that drink-probably has the same calories as the drink.

[WireWrap]

2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Oh,  ITA that she misjudged us & thought we would be amused & entertained by her relentlessly cruel, vicious, evil horribleness.  But don't forget about Satan Andy.  He's the producer of this nasty season we've had to endure -- the season of the Bethenny monster.  So clearly, he also assumed we would love this nasty shit.

You know, I really wonder if both Bethenny & Satan Andy assumed viewers liked seeing Bethenny squash Kelly, so they both figured turning her foul meanness & viciousness & nastiness on anyone & everyone near her would make the show really awesome.  Uh, it doesn't.  All it makes for is vile cruelty that's ugly as hell to watch.  OK, so you got better ratings, Satan Andy, but at what cost?

Quit the show, Bethenny!  Quit the show, Bethenny!  Quit the show, Bethenny!  C'mon, if we all say it enough, maybe it'll come true & we can extinguish the Bethenny monster off the show.  Now, if only she'd drag Carole off with her.  Oh, what do ya wanna bet, if Bethenny does leave the show -- Carole never sees her again.  Some friendship.  Carole, you are the biggest phony baloney on the show.

Andy no longer produces the NY HW show for Bravo, I checked the RHWNY IMBD producer list. The last show Andy produced for NY was in 2012, surprisingly, Scott Dunlop is listed as a NY producer this season. That said, I have no doubt that everyone on the production team is well aware of Bethenny's/Andy's close personal friendship and does whatever she wants to keep him happy even though he is no longer an executive at Bravo. I'm sure he still has influence at the network concerning the HW show.

1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

We might be talking about 2 different articles, because in the one I'm talking about she never says she wasn't headed for divorce at the beginning of the season. I'm specifically addressing the comments in the one linked above. She never says anything about not planning or discussing a divorce. Just that Beth couldn't have had that information because they have no mutual friends. This from the article: 

"Though Bethenny Frankel previously said on WWHL that she knew about Jules' impending divorce before this season of RHONYstarted filming, Jules said she doesn't see how that's possible. "Because we have a 'mutual friend.' We have no mutual friends," she shot back.""

My answer wouldn't be that its not possible Beth could know this because there is no who could have shared the information, but that Beth couldn't know this because it never happened. I don't mean to wordsmith it to death, but it seems like that is more and more how the HW's get analyzed. 

I also think it important to remember that dickhead Micheal filed for divorce a full month before it was reported in the press and Jules made her statement. The same week we saw the first real glimpse of real issues in their marriage.  Coincidence? I don't think so. 

No, the problem is that the article you are referencing does not have the full story or all of the pertinent information about what Jules/Dorinda said on the WWHL show, which is where they got the story from to begin with. Jules denied ever telling anyone that her marriage was in trouble, that Michael was cheating on her or that they were headed for a divorce on the show but for some reason, your article failed to mention that, maybe Bethenny was the source for them. LOL

48 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Three new Bethenny takes today:  http://www.eonline.com/news/788450/why-bethenny-frankel-told-luann-de-lesseps-about-the-photos-while-on-real-housewives-of-new-york-city-camera

Oops that wasn't enough of an explanation or justification:  http://www.etonline.com/news/195945_exclusive_bethenny_frankel_on_telling_luann_de_lesseps_what_she_knew_i_wouldn_t_do_it_again/

Now onto Dennis and why she hasn't danced on the tables celebrating her divorce:  http://www.people.com/article/bethenny-frankel-talks-considering-marriage-finalizing-divorce

Retracting her leaving the series sentiment:  http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/bethenny-why-i-told-luann-de-lesseps-her-fiance-cheated-on-her-w435081  More on Dennis-guess those photos stirred up interest.

Somehow mixing pimping her new drink and defending being a miserable human being don't seem to mesh.  BTW the garnish on that drink-probably has the same calories as the drink.

Did you catch her, Bethenny, saying that the make out session/cheating was 2 hours now? LOL On the show she said he/other woman were making out for a hour and suddenly it is now double that, 2 hours! She is taking a page out of Sonja's play book and embellishing/changing her story each time she tells it. LOL

Oh, and she was the one to tell Luann about Tom's cheating because it had to come from someone Luann "TRUSTS"? She is kidding me/us/all viewers? Does she really want us to believe that Luann trusts her and that she had Luann's best interest at heart? Spin it, Bethenny, keep spinning it because each time you do it, you show just how nasty, low you really are! LOL 

[ElDosEquis]

36 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Somehow mixing pimping her new drink and defending being a miserable human being don't seem to mesh.  BTW the garnish on that drink-probably has the same calories as the drink.

And probably tastes the same?

Chew on a spearmint sprig for a few seconds?

Why the fuck did they put THAT into my drink?

-----

Beffany is one of those people that are born without a 'shame' gene.

That little gene keeps you from making an ass out of yourself in public.  It's that little voice inside your head that asks, "Hey, Are you SURE you want to keep going with this?"

[breezy424]

4 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Three new Bethenny takes today:  http://www.eonline.com/news/788450/why-bethenny-frankel-told-luann-de-lesseps-about-the-photos-while-on-real-housewives-of-new-york-city-camera

Oops that wasn't enough of an explanation or justification:  http://www.etonline.com/news/195945_exclusive_bethenny_frankel_on_telling_luann_de_lesseps_what_she_knew_i_wouldn_t_do_it_again/

Now onto Dennis and why she hasn't danced on the tables celebrating her divorce:  http://www.people.com/article/bethenny-frankel-talks-considering-marriage-finalizing-divorce

Retracting her leaving the series sentiment:  http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/bethenny-why-i-told-luann-de-lesseps-her-fiance-cheated-on-her-w435081  More on Dennis-guess those photos stirred up interest.

Somehow mixing pimping her new drink and defending being a miserable human being don't seem to mesh.  BTW the garnish on that drink-probably has the same calories as the drink.

 

2 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Andy no longer produces the NY HW show for Bravo, I checked the RHWNY IMBD producer list. The last show Andy produced for NY was in 2012, surprisingly, Scott Dunlop is listed as a NY producer this season. That said, I have no doubt that everyone on the production team is well aware of Bethenny's/Andy's close personal friendship and does whatever she wants to keep him happy even though he is no longer an executive at Bravo. I'm sure he still has influence at the network concerning the HW show.

No, the problem is that the article you are referencing does not have the full story or all of the pertinent information about what Jules/Dorinda said on the WWHL show, which is where they got the story from to begin with. Jules denied ever telling anyone that her marriage was in trouble, that Michael was cheating on her or that they were headed for a divorce on the show but for some reason, your article failed to mention that, maybe Bethenny was the source for them. LOL

Did you catch her, Bethenny, saying that the make out session/cheating was 2 hours now? LOL On the show she said he/other woman were making out for a hour and suddenly it is now double that, 2 hours! She is taking a page out of Sonja's play book and embellishing/changing her story each time she tells it. LOL

Oh, and she was the one to tell Luann about Tom's cheating because it had to come from someone Luann "TRUSTS"? She is kidding me/us/all viewers? Does she really want us to believe that Luann trusts her and that she had Luann's best interest at heart? Spin it, Bethenny, keep spinning it because each time you do it, you show just how nasty, low you really are! LOL 

The increase to 'two' hours of making out was the first thing that stood out to me.  And what's with the 'she has the receipts and the time stamps'.  Am I reading that correctly?  Receipts from the person who took the pictures?  But she doesn't have the person who supposedly took the pictures attesting that it he was there and it was one hour, now two, backing her up?  Add to that what was the need to say that?  The only reason I can fathom is that Lu later (maybe at the reunion) makes a claim that the pictures weren't from that night.  Anyway, a receipt or time stamp of someone being someplace doesn't mean anything to prove that photos were taken at the same time.  From what I understand phone photos are not time stamped like photos taken with a digital camera.

Bottom line for me is that Beth just continues to dig a hole about 'being right' instead of using the tact that she felt she had to tell Lu and it was up to Lu to decide what to do with the information she received.  But that doesn't work for Beth because it has to be about Beth and Beth being 'right'.

Beth unfortunately isn't going to leave the show.  She has nothing else going on.  I doubt Sirius would be interested in her without the show.  Who would she have on?  Shades of her TV talk show.  No one cares about listening to Beth talk.  Has her boyfriend even filed for divorce yet?  And chances of someone who was married at 23 and was in that marriage for decades is going to immediately jump into another marriage is pretty slim.

'Skinny' is fading.  Skinny isn't 'in' anymore.  Much of her deal with Beam had to do with bonuses based on sales.  Sales aren't even good enough for Suntory to even mention the brand.  Her behavior is not helping her brand.  The star is fading fast and her actions just continue to alienate consumers.

[WireWrap]

33 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

 

The increase to 'two' hours of making out was the first thing that stood out to me.  And what's with the 'she has the receipts and the time stamps'.  Am I reading that correctly?  Receipts from the person who took the pictures?  But she doesn't have the person who supposedly took the pictures attesting that it he was there and it was one hour, now two, backing her up?  Add to that what was the need to say that?  The only reason I can fathom is that Lu later (maybe at the reunion) makes a claim that the pictures weren't from that night.  Anyway, a receipt or time stamp of someone being someplace doesn't mean anything to prove that photos were taken at the same time.  From what I understand phone photos are not time stamped like photos taken with a digital camera.

Bottom line for me is that Beth just continues to dig a hole about 'being right' instead of using the tact that she felt she had to tell Lu and it was up to Lu to decide what to do with the information she received.  But that doesn't work for Beth because it has to be about Beth and Beth being 'right'.

Beth unfortunately isn't going to leave the show.  She has nothing else going on.  I doubt Sirius would be interested in her without the show.  Who would she have on?  Shades of her TV talk show.  No one cares about listening to Beth talk.  Has her boyfriend even filed for divorce yet?  And chances of someone who was married at 23 and was in that marriage for decades is going to immediately jump into another marriage is pretty slim.

'Skinny' is fading.  Skinny isn't 'in' anymore.  Much of her deal with Beam had to do with bonuses based on sales.  Sales aren't even good enough for Suntory to even mention the brand.  Her behavior is not helping her brand.  The star is fading fast and her actions just continue to alienate consumers.

This is typical Bethenny........ Make a barely veiled threat about possibly exposing more info along from unnamed sources in trying to shut the others up when they call her out or push back at her. She made a similar threat towards Jules and Dorinda when Jules said that she never told a "mutual friend" that she/Michael were getting a divorce/separated/that he was cheating before filming began as Bethenny claimed she did (Jules said that she never told anyone because she didn't know what Michael was up to). She is trying to intimidate them into falling in line "or else", I have no doubts that she has been digging for dirt on all of the other women/SO, so that she can control what they say/reveal about her and I also have no doubts that her info is sketchy at best. I hope that these HWs start revealing her dirt at the reunion so she gets a clear message that she isn't in charge and she doesn't "know it all" and I also hope that her partners start reeling her back into line/getting her under control because she is out of control big time.

[zoeysmom]

Oh Look Bethenny de-Luann'd her hair she has bangs: 

[ScoobieDoobs]

First off -- blech to her bangs.  And secondly -- good luck to keep 'em looking like that in this disgusting humidity.  Pssst, hey, Lu, go get a pic of her right about now, after those bangs have curled up & frizzed up & her hair looks like 3 day old dog poop.  Hmmm, now there's something to give to the NY Post or DM.  Let's see how she likes it when shit is thrown at her.  Oh, we know what the predictable reaction from her would be.  Wah, wah, wah, everyone's picking on me, but I only do & say mean & vile & horrible shit to anyone near me cuz I was raised by wolves, wah, wah, wah.

So could it be she's just making threats she doesn't possibly mean -- just to see what the reaction would be to her quitting?  Well, here's what my reaction would be to you quitting the show, Bethenny -- YIPPPEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Edited August 19, 2016 by ScoobieDoobs

[biakbiak]

And what's with the 'she has the receipts and the time stamps'.  Am I reading that correctly?  Receipts from the person who took the pictures?  But she doesn't have the person who supposedly took the pictures attesting that it he was there and it was one hour, now two, backing her up?

Receipts in this case is slang for proof, so the "receipts" in this case are the pictures.

[zoeysmom]

5 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

This is typical Bethenny........ Make a barely veiled threat about possibly exposing more info along from unnamed sources in trying to shut the others up when they call her out or push back at her. She made a similar threat towards Jules and Dorinda when Jules said that she never told a "mutual friend" that she/Michael were getting a divorce/separated/that he was cheating before filming began as Bethenny claimed she did (Jules said that she never told anyone because she didn't know what Michael was up to). She is trying to intimidate them into falling in line "or else", I have no doubts that she has been digging for dirt on all of the other women/SO, so that she can control what they say/reveal about her and I also have no doubts that her info is sketchy at best. I hope that these HWs start revealing her dirt at the reunion so she gets a clear message that she isn't in charge and she doesn't "know it all" and I also hope that her partners start reeling her back into line/getting her under control because she is out of control big time.

Last night Bethenny was trying to tie Sonja to a timeline and said Luann moved in with you in October.  When Sonja appeared with Ramona it was Ramona inviting her to her birthday party around November 16th.  Sonja was telling Ramona Luann was going to move on for a few days and give it a try.  Sonja's birthday bash was November 20th.  Luann met Tom November 24th and apparently stayed for the 25th. 

In other words Bethenny was trying to make the time Sonja and Tom were seeing each other (wink, wink) on going and long lasting.  Problem is Luann was only staying with Sonja for a short time.  According to reports Sonja and Luann were contract hold outs.

Bethenny can sure lie when it suits her. 

[WireWrap]

9 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Last night Bethenny was trying to tie Sonja to a timeline and said Luann moved in with you in October.  When Sonja appeared with Ramona it was Ramona inviting her to her birthday party around November 16th.  Sonja was telling Ramona Luann was going to move on for a few days and give it a try.  Sonja's birthday bash was November 20th.  Luann met Tom November 24th and apparently stayed for the 25th. 

In other words Bethenny was trying to make the time Sonja and Tom were seeing each other (wink, wink) on going and long lasting.  Problem is Luann was only staying with Sonja for a short time.  According to reports Sonja and Luann were contract hold outs.

Bethenny can sure lie when it suits her. 

IMO, she went beyond trying to make/suggest that Tom was still seeing Sonja close to when he started seeing Luann, she was trying to get Sonja to say that he was sleeping with her after he met/started dating Luann, she wanted to prove there was an overlap.

Not only does she lie when it suits her, she tries to get others to do it with her as well.

[tenativelyyours]

You know seeing that selfie and Frankelstein's Monster makes a little more sense to me.  If I had to even just sip any of that shit swill she schills at every public event I attended?  Let's just say pop culture would replace "going postal" with "Went all Skinny Girl".  I mean that shit is foul. 

Then again, maybe it tastes so bad because she puts a drop of her own bile in each and every bottle. 

It is funny just a couple weeks out of the reunion and she is hop skip jumping around trying to convey all kinds of social media deflection it seems.  Wonder Woman's bracelets are less busy facing Nazi machine gun fire. 

Poor Loathsome Creature.  The more she tries to convey all kinds of no fucks given, the more desperate she seems to me.  Has the man she is mistress to started divorce proceedings yet?   Since the idea of Luann and Alex or Luann and Tom having an 'open marriage' is something she feels is her right to discuss, I hope someone asks her at the reunion what kind of marriage she plans with a man she is engaged to but himself still married to another?  I wonder if that falls into the category of "open" marriages?   And what is her approach to letting her future husband get engaged while still married to her?  Will she be as okay with it on the opposite end?  People with Zero fucks to give oddly somehow want to know.  Well the Monster is so open and honest I'm sure she'll share each and every detail of her relationship just like she did last season.  

[breezy424]

1 hour ago, zoeysmom said:

Oh Look Bethenny de-Luann'd her hair she has bangs: 

Beth is trying to channel Taylor Swift and it's not working.  Yeah, she does look a lot better with the bob cut but this...not so much. 

[breezy424]

38 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Last night Bethenny was trying to tie Sonja to a timeline and said Luann moved in with you in October.  When Sonja appeared with Ramona it was Ramona inviting her to her birthday party around November 16th.  Sonja was telling Ramona Luann was going to move on for a few days and give it a try.  Sonja's birthday bash was November 20th.  Luann met Tom November 24th and apparently stayed for the 25th. 

In other words Bethenny was trying to make the time Sonja and Tom were seeing each other (wink, wink) on going and long lasting.  Problem is Luann was only staying with Sonja for a short time.  According to reports Sonja and Luann were contract hold outs.

Bethenny can sure lie when it suits her. 

The timelines have become boring aka out of wack.  Ro dated Tom in August.  Sonja was in a relationship, aka FWB, for ten years.  If so, she cheated on Mr. Morgan. 

Yep.  The fact is that Lu moved in with So in November.  So has adjusted dates with Tom from Thanksgiving to just before Thanksgiving.   Who cares what Tom did before Thanksgiving.  He and Lu got together Thanksgiving  weekend.  Both So and Ro are grasping at straws on the timeline and the truth is that Tom didn't 'care' about either one....  At least Ro admits this and So....if he had any iota of a care about you we would have seen it during the years you've been on the show.  Hello, reality check.

Beth is desperate to make something work in her world of she knows everything.  It's not working.

[izabella]

Sonja and Ramona should get working on figuring out the timelines of Bethy's relationship, and when she started her affair, how long before he left his wife.  Then maybe Ramona can tell us how many dates Bethy went on before getting fake engaged to a guy who is still married.

Edited August 19, 2016 by izabella

[zoeysmom]

9 hours ago, breezy424 said:

The timelines have become boring aka out of wack.  Ro dated Tom in August.  Sonja was in a relationship, aka FWB, for ten years.  If so, she cheated on Mr. Morgan. 

Yep.  The fact is that Lu moved in with So in November.  So has adjusted dates with Tom from Thanksgiving to just before Thanksgiving.   Who cares what Tom did before Thanksgiving.  He and Lu got together Thanksgiving  weekend.  Both So and Ro are grasping at straws on the timeline and the truth is that Tom didn't 'care' about either one....  At least Ro admits this and So....if he had any iota of a care about you we would have seen it during the years you've been on the show.  Hello, reality check.

Beth is desperate to make something work in her world of she knows everything.  It's not working.

The Thanksgiving reference is important because Luann and Tom met on November 24th/25th and Thanksgiving was the 27th.  Sonja was in Virginia for Thanksgiving, Luann apparently was ready to pack up and go home for Thanksgiving.  So it makes it sound as if Tom banged Sonja one night and Luann the next.  Prior to Luann going out and meeting Tom, it was just Luann and Sonja hanging out and not bringing men home according to Sonja.  It becomes murkier because Luann on the 8th of December mentions her dry spell is over. 

I find it interesting Bethenny, Sonja and ramona are hell bent on saying how Tom felt about each of these women.   Tom may despise them.  All he ever said about Ramona is she was humbled.  I am assuming that is a reference to her divorce.  If Bethenny was such good friends with Ramona, enough so to attack Luann for going out with Tom in November, would she not have known that Ramona dated him only briefly in August and had a serious boyfriend?  Bethenny essentially continues to make Ramona look foolish over her claim on Tom. 

[Almost 3000]

17 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Quit the show, Bethenny!  Quit the show, Bethenny!  Quit the show, Bethenny!  C'mon, if we all say it enough, maybe it'll come true & we can extinguish the Bethenny monster off the show.

Ha! Makes me think of the old wives tale to call the banshee Mary by saying her name 3 times. Bloody Beth, Bloody Beth... (not going to test my luck and type it 3x) Yep, B was a bloody banshee this season.

[Castina]

Tom and Thanksgiving.  This is going by memory but I do think the last time Tom and Sonja slept together and the first time he met Luann were likely in the week leading up to Thanksgiving Day.  When Luann told  Sonja about Tom the first time you could see on Sonja's face she was trying to do the math as she tried to verify with Luann whether it was before Thanksgiving or after Thanksgiving.  My impression at the time was Sonja was with her FWB just before Thanksgiving.  

So I don't think a lot of time went between the two events BUT I don't see why it matters.  Before Sonja got caught up in the drama and influence of the other women in the cast she herself said that her and Tom just hooked up when they were in between dating other people.  And he told her he met someone when he hooked up with Luann.  My interpretation of that, because why else would he mention it, was Sonja got in touch with him for a booty call after Thanksgiving and he informed her he was now dating someone.  

Bethenny, imo, brought Sonja back under her wing because she had a bigger fish to fry (bigger than Tipsy Girl) and needed Sonja on side and therefore easy to manipulate.  Sonja, imo, got sucked into it because she now has a regular spot on show ($$$), is part of a major story line ($$$) and they also played on Sonja's biggest fear, being single and alone (she still isn't over her divorce).  B just got lucky that Tom also dated Ramona and slept with Sonja but if the dating pool amongst that group is as small as some of you say than this shouldn't be a surprise.  If you hang in the same circles you will date within those circles so there will always be crossover. 

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10 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Beth is trying to channel Taylor Swift and it's not working.  Yeah, she does look a lot better with the bob cut but this...not so much. 

She's definitely dived into the depths of insanity if she thinks she even remotely looks like Taylor Swift! LOL!

TentaivleyYours, thanks for the Frankelstein moniker for Bethany/Bethanny! Great snark!