S05.E29: Finale Special: Check-Up with Dr. Drew — Part 1

[WhitneyWhit]

Yes, I love how Leah doesn't want to lose the girlses because she loves them and would miss them, but because being a SAHM is all she knows and that would cramp her style.

[GreatKazu]

I didn't believe there was anything to Germy missing from MTV. After all, the guy does have to work to pay off the IRS, their new farm house, the horse expenses, Leah's credit cards, and whatever other expenses and debts they have.

 

This quote from Germy:

 

 

“buddy it was coming in as fast as you could pump it out.”

Hee, sounds like Leah there with money except she is pumping it out as fast as it comes in. Hell, she can't even wait for it to come in before she puts it on her charge cards.

Edited October 10, 2014 by GreatKazu

[StatisticalOutlier]

In the comments section Chelsea Houska’s pop Dr. Randy wrote, “You skipped New York to do this?” Jeremy’s reply was, “Yea randy I did, this is steady income.”

 

I don't think jobs that are subject to the frequent layoffs his is are considered steady income.  They might be well paid, but they're not steady.  But in comparison to Leah's Mary Kay empire...

 

[And not to defend Randy because he needs to get off the damn social media, but I think there was a jesting tone that didn't get conveyed.]

[wrestlesflamingos]

Germy's job is more regular than Leah's. I think he was making a dig at the show.

[PlanetSassy]

From that photo of Germy, in the trench, it looks like he may be a surveyor (which requires an Associates degree, I believe).  The way Leah described his job, and explained that if the pipe-laying crew catches up to him he could be fired, I imagine is verbatim how Germy describes the job to her when she bitches about him leaving for work.

[ethalfrida]

When I was Chelsea's age, if Dr. Drew had said to me what he did to Chelsea-- that is, being all down her pants about what kind of sex she's having with every tom, dick, harry, and magic wand-- my Dad would have been pretty upset.  Not at the suggestion of me having sex, but because a guy old enough to be Chelsea's father pressuring his daughter into answering sexual questions she obviously wasn't comfortable answering.  I mean, what GIVES, Dr. Drew?  Are you warm for Chelsea's form?  It isn't just "hope you are using birth control and wearing condoms every time" (and why doesn't this show focus on STD prevention too?)

 

At my age now my Dad would let me handle things, but Chelsea is still pretty young. 

Yes, it is very disrespectful to get that personal. But then we hear disrespect of themselves from their own mouths. Then MTV is disrespecting everyone including viewers. Where should the line be drawn? But all this is not excusing Dr. D for crossing the line.

[CaliforniaLove]

At least Dr. Drew was equal in his odd sex obsessed questions..."so Adam...do you still hook up with Taylor sometimes? If so, how often & what is most common position you use??!!?". SMH

[BitterApple]

I'm sorry, but why is Randy going back and forth on social media with 20-somethings? Where does he think Chelsea would be right now if he hadn't played Daddy Warbucks her entire life? Christ, she couldn't even manage to get a GED until she was practically legal to buy alcohol.

[ghoulina]

At least Dr. Drew was equal in his odd sex obsessed questions..."so Adam...do you still hook up with Taylor sometimes?

 

I get that this is Teen Mom, and they put it all out there - but when he asks these kinds of questions, given his age and so-called job, he just comes off immature and gossip-starved.

 

Germy's job is more regular than Leah's. I think he was making a dig at the show.

 

Germy has his issues, but I applaud him for being at work when the stupid reunion taped. How many of these idiots have we seen act like the MTV money is going to be around forever? No steady job, no school, spending like there's no tomorrow. Germy, at least, is keeping one foot planted in the real world, and I do think he's a hard worker.

[GreatKazu]

I posted this in the wrong thread. This goes here. Here is a sneak peek of the next episode where Javi finds out a secret and is pissed off:

http://www.mtv.com/news/1958939/teen-mom-2-reunion-sneak-peek-javi-furious/

 

Of course, Kail being a lying, sneaky bitch again. What else does he expect from this damn heifer? Honesty? Common sense? Dude, you have a right to be angry, but look at what you married. She is a stupid bitch.

[ghoulina]

And I responded in the wrong thread, ooops. It's easy to get confused with all these heifers!

 

Deleting and moving. 

 

I would be as pissed as Javi. More so. What is it going to take for him to wake up? Kail has zero regard for him as a father. And, frankly, this entire situation makes me question her as a mother. I've always found Kail's parenting to be decent. I think she plays emotional games, like with the whole Jo situation, and the fighting/physical altercations in the same house as the kids certainly isn't cool. But I've never worried for their physical safety. Yet here she is dropping the baby off to be babysat by her mother, who she clearly knows is drinking again! She shouldn't NEED Javi to tell her "no leaving the kids there by themselves". That should be common sense. And she keeps repeating "It's my mom". Ummmm, THEY'RE YOUR KIDS. Kids trump parents, especially when they're little. Sorry.

And, of course, she has to make it all about her, and how the situation is so much more upsetting to her - and Sad Panda falls right in line. God, they all make me sick.

[GreatKazu]

Kail is the kind of parent who gives off a good impression and people fall for it.  It is the things she does when she thinks she can get away with it that makes me give her major side-eye. She has shown a lot of her true self on camera. What the fuck is that heifer doing going back on what she said about her mother? Why is it Kail can rip Jo's butt when he allowed Susie into his home when Suzie came around and wanted to see Isaac, but here she is leaving her baby with a woman whom she herself said can't be trusted? Who the fuck cares that she is her mother, she is a drunk! Fuck her. Get to steppin' and get help, until then you can't be around your grandchildren!!

 

Then, there is that time where Kail had to get rid of her dog because he bit Isaac. If it had been Jo or Javi who was around when that happened....good lawd!!! You know Hulk would have smashed up the place. Bitch would have called CPS!! She is crazy.

 

How much you wanna bet Hulk went up in Javi's face when they got to the hotel and reminded who is the boss? I bet she told him to not dare question her or to ever blast her like that on camera again.

Edited October 10, 2014 by GreatKazu

[Darknight]

Perhaps Jenelle has woken up to the fact that evenings at her house ARE a class in psychology for Jace? Abnormal psychology.

How would Jenelle know if she doesn't take him or do shit for him. Barbara has to wake up at 5 am get Jace up, fed, dressed, and out the door in time for school. All while Jenelle catches up on beauty sleep. Hyperbole at its best if she thinks a 5 yo is taking psychology class

Edited October 10, 2014 by Darknight

[PlanetSassy]

I'm going to venture a guess that Jace sees a school psychologist. But, Jenelle doesn't see how that is different than a psychology class.

[Darknight]

I'm going to venture a guess that Jace sees a school psychologist. But, Jenelle doesn't see how that is different than a psychology class.

I hope he is. That poor kid needs it.

[RedKoolAide]

Honestly, what was so important that Drunk Ass Suzi was the only option as a babysitter for Lincoln? Kail is full of shit.

[ghoulina]

Honestly, what was so important that Drunk Ass Suzi was the only option as a babysitter for Lincoln?

 

There was a scarf sale at the mall?

[Cosmocrush]

I don't think jobs that are subject to the frequent layoffs his is are considered steady income.  They might be well paid, but they're not steady.

I used to work for an oilfield construction company that did a lot of pipeline projects.   My husband did as well. The work is steady but the specific projects are not because like any construction project they have completion dates.   This was in Alaska and projects could range from 4-6 weeks to six months (most were weather dependent - could only lay pipe in the winter, only inspect pipe in the summer, etc.)   This kind of work where you travel to the job is 10-12 hours a day, seven days a week with crews rotating out every four weeks or so.   When one project ended Mr. C would get a 'layoff slip" so he could get unemployment and it was rarely more than a couple weeks before the next project.  Like Jeremy, there were plenty of opportunities to work if someone was willing to travel.  

 

From that photo of Germy, in the trench, it looks like he may be a surveyor (which requires an Associates degree, I believe).  The way Leah described his job, and explained that if the pipe-laying crew catches up to him he could be fired, I imagine is verbatim how Germy describes the job to her when she bitches about him leaving for work.

Maybe but Mr. C holds an engineering degree and PE license and got in the mud/snow to survey the coordinates plenty of times. But just because of his age, I'm guessing Jeremy might be a superintendent or foreman more than an actual engineer, which can mean he does alot of the same things but doesn't have the credentials. 

Edited October 10, 2014 by Cosmocrush

[FozzyBear]

Honestly, what was so important that Drunk Ass Suzi was the only option as a babysitter for Lincoln? Kail is full of shit.

My hunch. An affair. Possibly with Joe.

[RedKoolAide]

^^^^I wouldn't put it past Kail, but she has to contend with Vee.

Lmao at the scarf sale. Kail is a scarf hoarder.

[HeySandyStrange]

I don't think Joe is all that interested in riding the Kail train again, especially when he has an attractive, good-natured lady at home. Though I guess I should never put anything past anyone.

[FozzyBear]

I don't think Joe is all that interested in riding the Kail train again, especially when he has an attractive, good-natured lady at home. Though I guess I should never put anything past anyone.

It's just a hunch. He's hooked up with her a couple of times post break up and I think cheated on Vee with her before. They just seem odd around each other this season. A little friendly.

I'm also not sure how different Vee is. I remember her throwing down some trashy social media posts before. I've always been of the opinion that she's just filmed less, not that she's actually less drama. I think Joe likes them a little crazy.

[SPLAIN]

I don't see Jo wanting Kail ever again.

 

I think Kail needed a babysitter because she was probably FRUSTRATED!!! I imagine her complaining to Drunken Suzie about not being able to get her homework done. Kail seemed way to eager to let her mom be around her, especially with Suzie wanting to care for the baby.

 

I had forgotten about Kail being upset with Jo when he allowed Suzie to visit with Isaac. Again, what a hypocrite she is. If Jo does something, he is wrong for exposing Isaac to her, but if she does it, she just wants her mother in her life.

 

I don't have Netflix. Is there another source or site to check out old episodes of this show?

Edited October 10, 2014 by SPLAIN

[Mkay]

Ok, so that's the secret, not a baby.  My bad. After I posted that though and mentioned how Kail never posts her work out sessions and calories burned anymore, she posted one today. hahaha Would be super funny if she read here.  

[NikSac]

I posted this in the wrong thread. This goes here. Here is a sneak peek of the next episode where Javi finds out a secret and is pissed off:

http://www.mtv.com/news/1958939/teen-mom-2-reunion-sneak-peek-javi-furious/

 

Of course, Kail being a lying, sneaky bitch again. What else does he expect from this damn heifer? Honesty? Common sense? Dude, you have a right to be angry, but look at what you married. She is a stupid bitch.

 

Javi's lucky he didn't get whacked in the head just because she was pissed. I'm sure it was his fault somehow.

[GreatKazu]

You should know Kail won't hit him on camera. She waits until they are alone and then smacks him upside the head.

[NikSac]

You should know Kail won't hit him on camera. She waits until they are alone and then smacks him upside the head.

 

True, true... my mistake!

[Momof2Cuties]

Adam is even dumber than I previously thought, whipping out his phone and playing that video of Aubree on the dirt bike.  But I'm glad that Chelsea has the evidence for when they modify the visitation agreement.  His immaturity is just astounding: it's fine to keep a 4 year old up to midnight if she's having fun, introduce her to your girlfriend of the moment if they're both fine with it, and drive to the courthouse to plug in your ankle monitor... that you have for all your license/DUI violations for... if you can't find a ride. (Where was his entourage?  MTV must not have been filming that day.)  Other than harping on the fact that Adam has a deep love for Aubree, Drew didn't bother me too much.  I think Adam's love for Aubree is relatively shallow which may actually be deep for Adam, but whatever as Adam said at the reunion.

 

Where I wanted someone to forcibly remove Drew off the stage was when Leah and Corey had their turn.  Good gravy, here we go again with the Corey was against a wheelchair narrative.  What do these people think he did?  Ask for the application to be returned?  Call the insurance company and say, "Take your time!?"  And then we have Drew asking Corey to tell us his side of the wheelchair thing and why he went for custody.  And Corey is actually explaining himself clearly and Drew cuts him off to bring out Leah and Lee and tell us everything that Corey said off camera.  WTH?  And now Corey still didn't have an opportunity to address Leah's comments that he was only giving her $200 a month and he wants custody because of child support.  I'm a suspicious person by nature, and I think they shut Corey down because he let it be known that he did know the rumors of the drug use and mentioned he thought they'd have more stability at his house.  Who knows what else he may have said if they had let him talk for as long as Leah got to?

 

Something else I noticed at the end, when they asked them to talk about the girls and what they were doing, Corey immediately said fishing and Miranda said Hide N' Seek.  Leah didn't have anything else to say, so then Drew prompted her since he loves to enable her.  And all she had was the same answer about baby Cheetos calling them Sissy at the drop offs.  Now I know she mentioned Aleeah's cheerleading and the girls both being in preschool at the beginning, but I find it odd that a SAHM who says that the girls are her whole life couldn't come up with anything else that they enjoy.  I can believe a stressed out mom that's popping too many pills to pay attention to her three kids couldn't come up with anything else once the obvious answers were gone, though.

[fliptopbox]

I really don't get why Dr. Drew always gives Adumb a pass, always insisting he's a great father and really loves Aubree. Is he watching the same show we are? Cos I don't get that impression at all. I am almost positive that when TM2 goes away and the money dries up Adumb will totally disappear from Aubree's life. Paislee's too, probably. If he isn't in jail by then for something more serious than DUI's and driving on a suspended license.

[StatisticalOutlier]

I really don't get why Dr. Drew always gives Adumb a pass, always insisting he's a great father and really loves Aubree. Is he watching the same show we are?

 

I have to say that it's never seemed to me like he even watches the show.  I can't quite put my finger on exactly what it is, though.  I do know that talented interviewers ask questions and elicit answers that are interesting both to people who know nothing about the subject and to people who know a lot about the subject, and none of this drivel rises to that level. 

[spidermiss2426]

I want the crew and producers from Lockup: Extended stay to become the Teen Mom 2 crew.  They have experience in prisons.

[missy jo]

Chelsea still sleeps with Adam! I mean, I know there are more serious issues on this reunion, such as custody issues and possible addictions, but ... Chelsea still sleeps with Adam!

It sounded like "a few months ago" might be around the t-ball season when he broke up with Taylor and started dating the porn star (?). Maybe that's why Chelsea was surprised he showed up with her.

And when Dr. Drew asked Adam if he used condoms these days, Chelsea's eyes were shooting darts at Dr. Drew as if to say, "Nope, we didn't use condoms!"

I wasn't as bothered with Dr. Drew asking Chelsea about her love life, because I assumed that's what they're were getting at - that she was still involved with him these years later. I think the editors polish Chelsea's story line because it's the least disastrous of the Teen Moms, but only by comparison. If they showed the back-and-forth with Adam, then all the TM's would be total failures.

On Leah, someone mentioned her "shifty eyes." I noticed a facial tic, whether she's aware of it or not, where she was squinting her eyes constantly to emphasize what she was saying. Corey was really judicious in not saying more about the situation - although I wish he would! He's a good guy. And hell no, I don't believe that Jeremy is an "engineer" or Lee is a registered nurse.

[jacksgirl]

Late to the party, but so much snark. Who would have thought that Corey could be so articulate and genuine in expressing his desire for more time with the girlses. Wish Sad Panda had said to Leah that maybe it would be good for Corey and Miranda to have more custody. Oh, and Yoda Lee is "impartial" ? Drew is such a hack. Let's bring on Corey's dad Jeff, he's a lot wiser than Lee. Really wonder if there is some dirt on Leah. Just by the way she clams up and cries makes me think there is something there. So Germy is only home Saturday night? I know Leah has tons of extended family to help out, but that is lots of time alone. Panda is such a perve with all of the sex questioning, but at least he is an equal opportunity perve questioning Adumb as well as Chelsea.

[StatisticalOutlier]

And when Dr. Drew asked Adam if he used condoms these days, Chelsea's eyes were shooting darts at Dr. Drew as if to say, "Nope, we didn't use condoms!"

 

I got that impression, too.  But why should they?  Chelsea has an IUD, so the pregnancy angle is taken care of.  And it's not like Adam would be carrying, uh, wait a second.  I wouldn't shake hands with him without wearing gloves, and she lets him what?

 

But look at the bright side.  The more people Adam looses his critters on (in?), the more medical professionals needed to treat them, and the more of them who will say, "Take me to the Ebola outbreak--I want to try curing something a little less horrifying."  Everybody wins.

[HeySandyStrange]

I really did like what Corey and Miranda had to say, even though noticeably Dr.Drew tried to put more pressure on them then Leah.  I thought I heard the interest on their side to go through a mediator and settle for 50/50 custody. If they are willing, why can't Leah work with that? I wonder if part of the reason she is so wrapped up her  SAHM status is because if she had less stress, she might not get the sympathy and help she is obviously getting now. Maybe people would stop bending over backwards and hold her to some standard. As for Germy being home so little... can't really blame him. They seem to have very little interest in each other. I am waiting to hear about Leah being caught stepping out again with Robbie or some other dumbass in her backwoods.

 

 

 

I got that impression, too.  But why should they?  Chelsea has an IUD, so the pregnancy angle is taken care of.  And it's not like Adam would be carrying, uh, wait a second.

 

Seriously, this attitude these youngins have is so disgusting. Did they forget that AIDS/HIV is still a thing? How hard is it to slip on a condom? To tell your hookup baby daddy no way without one? Serious lack of responsibility going on.

Edited October 12, 2014 by HeySandyStrange

[configdotsys]

I'm also not sure how different Vee is. I remember her throwing down some trashy social media posts before. I've always been of the opinion that she's just filmed less, not that she's actually less drama. I think Joe likes them a little crazy.

So glad to see someone post this. I remember several times when Vee was on the show she was talking all street tough and posting trashy comments online too. Then the Farrah haircut and good edit showed up.

 

I really cannot stand these After shows but my DVR recorded it and of course, this week was the two people I really could not care less about. Chelsea is the beneficiary of the good edit. If she is still banging Adam, she's just as trashy as he is. And to be on the show all holier than thou about her life being solely focused on Aubree, well that's a crock. She lights up like a Christmas tree at the mention of Adam whether she denies that or not.

 

Leah's story is just bogus. They are treating the viewers like shit here and throwing out tiny bits and pieces of information knowing full well something larger is going down behind the scenes. These people agreed to be on television and to hold back on the true happenings just feels cheap.

 

My DVR description for next week says "Kail reveals a secret that infuriates Javi." I guess other cable companies don't do that because I knew right away that it was not another baby for Kail. I figured it was going to be some stupid shit and they were just throwing out a teaser. Maybe the cheeseburgers were undercooked one night and Javie got pissed... I could not watch the clip but Javi-- furious as he may be-- will cower and bow down to Kail because he's a jellyfish with no manparts left.

 

What infuriates me about this show-- especially this season-- is the attitude of Kail when Isaac was going to Jo for 6 weeks. She was bawling like a baby about being away from her kid just like she whined in the car when Jo wanted more time back when they went to court. "I dont' wanna lose any more time with my kiiiiiiiid----ah" she bellowed to Javi. Same with Leah: she doesn't want to be away from "her" kids. None of these girls seem to realize that their kids' fathers feel the same way. That's not okay though.

 

I had to stop reading the comments under the furious Javi linked clip upthread. Kail has so many supporters that it scares me.

Edited October 12, 2014 by configdotsys

[SPLAIN]

Interesting that the two girls who didn't have their fathers in their lives (Leah & Kail) are the two who are intent on keeping their kids in their possession, away from their fathers (Jo & Cory), while the girl (Chelsea) who had her dad in her life and still does, can't get her kid's father to spend time with Aubree.

 

Leah can't bear the idea that a man, who fathered two children with her so quickly into their relationship (one month), could actually have *gasp!* feelings and love for his children, and actually want to have them in his care for at least 50% of the time since he can't have them 100 percent of the time.  

 

Kail, the nutcase, wants to make sure Isaac doesn't get so attached to Jo, that he may want to spend more time with his dad. Her insecurities, and possible hatred for her own father, are denying her child quality time with his dad. She is bent on making sure Isaac sees it is her love and feelings that matter more than Jo's. 

 

These two broads didn't get the love and attention from their bio dads so, they are doing everything they can to mar the relationships their kids have with their own fathers. I will also throw in that Leah and Kail seem to be punishing Cory and Jo for not wanting to take her self-centered asses back.  Isaac, Ali and Aleeah are paying the price and being punished for the mistakes that the fathers of Leah and Kail did.

 

Attention you two scumbags, Cory and Jo love their children as much as you do. Fathers have feelings just like you!

Edited October 12, 2014 by SPLAIN

[Mkay]

I went back to Leah's pictures on facebook of this past summer to see if I could find any where she looked high. You bet I did. Esp the one where she debuted her shorter hair! This could explain why during the cheerleading competitions of Aleeah that her makeup was so much more awful than the other girls is that Leah was high as a kite! I know Leah is not good at putting makeup on herself and I know competition makeup is dark, but that poor child.    Anyway, in the majority of these pictures this SAHM was NOT in them with her girlses.  It is either Momma Dawn or one of her sisters.  I'm rambling,I know.

[Darknight]

I got that impression, too. But why should they? Chelsea has an IUD, so the pregnancy angle is taken care of. And it's not like Adam would be carrying, uh, wait a second. I wouldn't shake hands with him without wearing gloves, and she lets him what?

But look at the bright side. The more people Adam looses his critters on (in?), the more medical professionals needed to treat them, and the more of them who will say, "Take me to the Ebola outbreak--I want to try curing something a little less horrifying." Everybody wins.

I can't believe these girls have fans. We tell teenagers to protect themselves but these 20 yo women cant? Come on you have to know that iud doesn't protect against STDS. Now what if Chelsea caught something from Adam? Like HIV or Chlamydia? Wear a condom or wait to get an std test or better yet don't have sex at all

[configdotsys]

I don't think it's prudent to talk on television about matters that are being worked out in court since something may be interpreted wrong and used against them and whatever. What I think is bullshit, is Panda bringing these things up at all and asking questions that force Corey and Leah to be vague, make faces, look surprised, deer in headlights and mumble something that is said so uncomfortably that viewers know there are things being unsaid. But hey, that's just Panda and his dickishness on this show.

[fliptopbox]

I know I am not the first person to say this, but they really need to get rid of Sad Panda as the host for these reunions. He coddles the girls, and assholes like Adumb....yet he's a jerk to Corey, who is the best dad in the whole damn franchise. WTF? I also don't get the benefits of having a doctor as the reunion ringmaster...so what? It's not like these girls are having their real issues discussed here, just the glossed over bullshit ones that MTV allows. To be honest I don't even really want to watch next week's part 2 with Jenelle and Nipples because I just might break my tv in anger. Ok not really.. but still. It's THAT irritating how these girls are coddled during these wrap-up shows.

 

Add me to the pile of folks wondering why Sad Panda cares so much about Chelsea's sex life. It's actually smart of her to keep her relationships (or whatever) off camera. Let the girl have a private life! The Adumb part is ick, but it's her life. She's not the first girl in the world to sleep with her terrible ex. But the way Panda just was prying about it when she obviously was uncomfortable was creepy. I kind of wish Randy had called him out on it and made him feel like an ass.

[StatisticalOutlier]

I wonder if these girls are like [real] celebrities, in that they have to be careful about their private lives because you never know what someone's motivation is.  It used to be you had to be wary that someone was buddying up to you because you were famous, and now I assume, in these tabloid times, that you also have to be wary that someone is motivated by selling a story.  That's one reason famous people date other famous people--they're on a level playing field.

 

But for these girls, there's no one really on their playing field, especially in these small towns.  So I can actually see why Chelsea would think it's safe (using one definition of the word) to go back to Adam periodically.  Plus, there's the possibility that she's still marking her territory, as mentioned upthread.

 

However, in this case I think it's stupid (in addition to obviously gross) because she's wrestling about visitation with Aubree, and he's getting mixed messages:  you are unfit to care for Aubree but it's okay if you fuck me.  Now, it could be argued that these are separate and unrelated, but I'm not sure it would be persuasive, and besides, Adam would be too stupid to get it.

 

But what I truly don't understand is why she admitted, on both shows, that she's doing it.  She drew the line when asked about other relationships, so I know she can do it.  Yet she spills about Adam, and actually gets a little cutesy about it.  So yeah, maybe she's still asserting, to everyone out there, that she's still in the Adam game.  And upsetting to me is that she doesn't seem ashamed.  Come on.  If you're going to do it, at least be ashamed.  He's gross and he's treated you, and your daughter, like shit in the past.

[ethalfrida]

This is a really old joke but it demonstrates where parents were with their dhildren's sexuality back in the day...

 

A young husband was talking with his father in law. After a while he announced that they were expecting a baby.

The father says, "Susan is pregnant?"

The young husband says, "Yes, sir, she is."

The father says, "Well, shit, I knew you was married but I didn't think you was going to to do THAT!"

 

So, while you are not laughing I just want to add this to the conversation...

I know this is a show about pregnancy outside of marriage but do we really need to know someone has an IUD?

Edited October 19, 2014 by ethalfrida

[fliptopbox]

 

I know this is a show about pregnancy outside of marriage but do we really need to know someone has an IUD?

I don't know if we need to know, but if I remember right a couple seasons ago (it could have even been back in the 16&P days) they showed Chelsea going for the IUD appointment to get it placed and mentioned how she was promoting birth control and blah blah. They did that with a few of the girls. And I think Chelsea was the one who had her IUD fall out at one point right around the time she had a romp with Adumb and it was a big deal about would she get pregnant again. I guess she had the IUD replaced since, which was smarter than just not doing anything at all.

[Ljohnson1987]

Leah constantly bashes Cory. How does she know what kind of father he is to the girlses?  She should at least give him the chance to prove himself. Leah and Germy need to work out their relationship woes anyway. I doubt they went to therapy.  Also, she said that being a SAHM to the girlses is all she’s known. What about the Mary Kay job? Do these girls fake jobs, because they think they’ll be more relateable to viewers?

[BitterApple]

Can IUD's fall out that easily? I've only ever been on the Pill, so I don't know much about that sort of thing. 

[zenme]

Maybe Dr. Drew's questioning of Chelsea was producer driven.  They could have somehow known about Chelsea and Adam and wanted the viewers to know about it. I don't for a minute believe that Adam uses condoms, and if I were Chelsea I wouldn't be only concerned with preventing pregnancy because Mirena doesn't protect against STDs. 

[HeySandyStrange]

As far as I ever heard, there is a very small chance of an IUD coming out.  I have one and have had it for a year with no troubles on that front.  I think there is more of a chance of it going into the uterus. According to what I've read it is more likely to fall out if you haven't had kids yet.  I seem to remember when Chelsea's IUD fell out that there was speculation on the TWoP forums that either she was a) lying, possibly to have a story line or b) she and/or a friend "helped" it come out since those suckers don't usually come out that easily. 

[GreatKazu]

Remember when Leah said she took out her IUD? 

 

When the mention that an IUD has fallen out, I always think the person means it is no longer wedged in the area where it should be. I never had an IUD. I am not sure if those things can move out of place.

 

As for Dr. Drew interrogating Chelsea, didn't he pretty much do the same thing to Leah back when he was wanting to know if she had feelings for Cory still, even though she was still with Germy? I remember him holding her hand, she had her head down, and she seemed worried about telling her true feelings.

 

Chelsea going back to Adam, who had Taylor in his life, is no different than when Kail had sex with Jo while in a committed relationship with Jordan. While that hanky-panky was going on, Kail was pushing Jordan to commit to her by telling him they should live together, the same move she did on Javi, by the way.  Leah can be lumped into that "he loves me, he loves me not" group as well. She was pining for Cory, while living with Germy. And she wonders why Germy is insecure. She was pushing Cory, using the guilt trip about their family needing to be together. She had just had her miscarriage and there she was telling Germy she wanted to try again with Cory. She even said it on the reunion show!! Even though Leah didn't have sex with Cory, the feelings were there. If Cory had wanted to have sex, I wouldn't doubt Leah would have jumped at the chance.

 

Chelsea getting a good edit?  I don't think so. I just think she knows how to keep things from the camera crew. She waits until filming is over and then she goes about her life.  There was an article where Chelsea mentions how she does her best to keep things from the show. Nothing wrong with that. Kail and Leah have kept things from the show as well. They save shit for interviews because they can get money for those interviews.  They also reveal info on their social media sites or it eventually comes out somehow. 

 

There was that one time when Kail admitted on the reunion show that she did hit Javi again, but only after Dr. Drew pressed her and told her if he asked Javi about any abuse, would he give the same answer as Kail. The same technique he used with Chelsea on this reunion show. Kail would not have revealed that tidbit if not for Dr. Drew pressing the matter since there had been that moment caught on camera of her hitting Javi. If Kail had it her way, no one would have ever known.

Edited October 12, 2014 by GreatKazu

[Mkay]

Chelsea still grins so big and starts twirling her jair when she talks about Adam.  Just like a school girl crush. Adam will never, ever take any of her threats or rules with Aubree  seriously if Chelsea doesn't stop sleeping with him. Please Chelsea, go buy a toy!!!

Edited October 12, 2014 by Mkay