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S03.E18: Listening To A Heartbeat

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I didn't like this episode, how many times does the police station have to be raided before they get adequate security.

If Will's mom was pregnant in Puerto Rico, maybe she went to Georgia to find Will's dad. She wasn't a prostitute for very long before she died. 

I wish Will didn't come in at the last moment to save the day. All those girl archers were there with plenty of arrows, that would have been a great save for Ormewood and a very unique death (or incapacitation) for a bad guy.

Why was Ormewood there anyway, I thought he was in a hospital lockdown?

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Jodithgrace

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Yeah, I didn’t understand how Ormewood went from being in that hospital lockdown to suddenly driving that truck full of serum. I must have blinked and missed something.

Those archers were hilarious. I kept wondering what kind of team they were. Turns out it was something useful. I mean a gaggle of gymnasts wouldn’t have been much good.

Quite a casualty list by the end of the episode, though nobody’s dead…yet. I hate season ending cliffhangers. 

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agathapenny

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They better not kill off Amanda or Ormewood in the first episode next season!

What a great episode, in spite of the cliffhanger, which I could do without.

So many awesome things in this ep. Angie being a complete badass with a plan and not miscarrying! Yay! 

"We have an archery team back there!" OMG, best line ever!

Will and Ormewood being bros in their moment of adrenaline! Yay!

Angie's ringtone for Will! HaHa! I could not agree more..."We-ee are never, ever, ever, getting back together...." From your lips to the show runners' ears. Even though I love and adore them as family/friends supporting each other.

Will finding out his dad loved his mom! Yay!

Ormewood geeking out over Stevie Nicks! Awesome!

Nico being OK! Yay!

Nobody being gratuitously killed off! That's just the way I like it! Three cheers! Now keep it up next season.

Faith and Ormewood! Awesome as always. Loved "You have a brain tumour? You have a brain tumour pun list that I'm not a part of?" Tumour Willis — Ha!

The badass archery champions! Amazing!

Will setting up camp beside Amanda's bed! Love it!

Those are my initial impressions. Last episode was so awesome I didn't think they could top it, but this was a fantastic part 2.

This is the best damn show on television right now, bar none. It may not be some pretentious, streaming service critical darling, but the writing is sharp as hell, it delivers drama and humour, the acting is superb, the soundtrack is excellent, and the styling of the show is second to none.

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redpencil

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I loved that episode until the cliffhanger, dang. I will be pissed if they kill Ormewood. Can't believe we have to wait so long to know what happens.

2 hours ago, possibilities said:

I think Oremwood was released from the lockdown when they realized the pathogen was in the take out containers, so it wasn't airborne and he wasn't exposed.

 

Yeah, I think once they knew what it was and how it was spreading, the lockdown was lifted.

I also hope this is the end of any hint of future romantic relationship between Will and Angie going forward. Absolutely do not want any sort of love triangle with a child in the mix. Just be done with it please.

The shouting conversation between Will and his father while barricading the door was hilarious.

I rewatched Will coming to Ormewood's rescue and their exchange right after ("We have an archery team back there!") approximately 78 times before continuing with the rest of the episode, haha. I love where those two have landed in their friendship.

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Irlandesa

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Oremwood needs to live.  I was hoping the almost getting shot would be his almost getting killed moment but I knew that dang tumor would come back into play.  I did love them coming up with names for it. And I'm glad Faith was in the house. I was afraid he'd be alone.

Amanda needs to live.  We need her style.  We need her bossiness. 

I have mixed feelings on the complicated feelings moment between Will and Angie.  It makes sense that they'd take a moment but I hope that's all it is.  I think Dr. Seth is good for Angie. 

While I did love some of the humor of that firefight, the archers being snarky while being shot at didn't ring true.  I would think they'd be more scared.

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Dowel Jones

Dowel Jones

I was on the other end of the archery team hijinks.  The writers must have taken a page from Fire Country with all the dopey personal dialogue in a very tense situation.  What part of a shootout did you girls not understand?  But they proved their worth, I guess.

When the Sheriff and Will were blocking up the door, I kept thinking of the Blues Brothers movie.  

I'm surprised Amanda survived even to the hospital.  A large caliber bullet to the center of the chest should be fatal immediately.

On a positive note, did everyone catch the short of Betty dunking on the basket during the commercial break?  Too cute!

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cardigirl

cardigirl

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I love the banter on this show and all the complicated relationships. Angie was awesome in this episode, as was the entire cast, but that little laser pointer moment made me applaud so hard, and I was still scared for her and Amanda. 

The tumor names in the middle of a gun fight were also not realistic but highly entertaining, so I LOVED it!! The archery team, Will arriving in time, Ormy's (OMG I died when Franklin called him that) big moment running to the truck. Fabulous! 

I read today that one of the show's writers and creators, Liz Heldens, also created The Big Leap, another favorite show of mine that sadly only got one season. Scott Foley was amazing on that show. And Kevin Daniels (Franklin) was also on The Big Leap. No wonder I love Will Trent so much!!

Not happy with the long wait til next season, and I'm so worried about Ormy and Amanda, but man, was I entertained this season. Kudos show!! I'll miss you! Til next January!

 

 

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fishcakes

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I also thought the archery team's reactions to being in the middle of a gun fight wasn't realistic at all, but I did love, "Sir, do you have an instagram?"

Nico must have gotten something to eat and then gotten sick, but there's no way they didn't share their food with Betty, so at least we know that Betty was immune and would have been fine regardless. When Ormewood went to see Nico when they were recovering, I was so distracted by Betty not being with them, and it was a huge relief to see Angie out in the hall with Betty in her lap. I think I could handle any of the mains dying, except for Betty. Not that I will be okay with either Amanda or Ormewood not making it, but I'm not going to worry about that until next season.

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Dowel Jones

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1 hour ago, wonderwoman said:

when will and the sheriff found the old guy, he was watching television. the music that was playing was haunting familiar. did anyone recognize it?

Very briefly, when Will and the Sheriff come through the door, you can catch a credits scene from a black and white show on the TV.  Since the music quit when he turned the TV off, I assume it was from the show.  I did some quick checks on the names, but they have so many credits it's hard to tell which one it was, as they were responsible for lots and lots of music. One that stood out was 'Peyton Place.  Maybe?

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wonderwoman

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1 hour ago, Dowel Jones said:

Very briefly, when Will and the Sheriff come through the door, you can catch a credits scene from a black and white show on the TV.  Since the music quit when he turned the TV off, I assume it was from the show.  I did some quick checks on the names, but they have so many credits it's hard to tell which one it was, as they were responsible for lots and lots of music. One that stood out was 'Peyton Place.  Maybe?

it did sound like peyton place, which was on abc. but i just checked and it’s not on any streaming service. weird. 

howiveaddict

howiveaddict

13 hours ago, HyeChaps said:

I thought for sure at least one of the bad guys would have been killed by an arrow.

But that would be a lot on the archery girl who did it.

3 hours ago, TVForever said:

Maybe it's the state of things these days, but I found this episode absolutely terrifying.

 

Especially with all the cuts to the CDC.

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AnimeMania

AnimeMania

49 minutes ago, howiveaddict said:
14 hours ago, HyeChaps said:

I thought for sure at least one of the bad guys would have been killed by an arrow.

But that would be a lot on the archery girl who did it.

Not really since together they already killed five of the terrorists, if all together they put five arrows into one more terrorist and get the thanks and public recognition of the city in return, I think they would be fine.

2 hours ago, fishcakes said:

Nico must have gotten something to eat and then gotten sick, but there's no way she didn't share her food with Betty, so at least we know that Betty was immune and would have been fine regardless.

The rat wasn't that lucky and Betty is only slightly larger.

35 minutes ago, 1775rik said:

Pete didn't get much goodwill with Amanda for saving Cynthia

Cynthia, Caroline, she was my favorite human character on the show 😉. They had someone doing her duties during this episode, but I don't think it was her. And Yes, Amanda didn't treat Pete very well last episode, which is why he couldn't be bothered to come help her this episode.

marceline

marceline

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I've been waiting for Ormewood to collapse again. He's out here running around in high stress situation and who knows how long its been since he's been diagnosed. I'm glad Faith was there with him and not the kids. They really are a good team. I know some people see a potential romance here but I don't

Looks like the showrunners heard my pleas after last week's episode that I needed the backstory on Lucy and Caleb. Given what Caleb told Will it's possible that this was his first time learning Lucy was a sex worker which would suck for him. Even more when he learns the circumstances of Will's birth. I look forward to seeing what happens when Antonio re-enters the mix.

FTR, I doubt either Amanda or Ormewood will die. The network has planned next season to be non-stop because of the "gangbusters" ratings. I don't expect them to mess with a winning formula unless one of the actors wants out. 

Some of y'all are going to judge me harshly for this but when Angie started cramping I felt relieved. I'm not looking forward to pregnant Angie. That aside, I did love the way she and Amanda handled the situation. Angie with the laser pointer. (I'm getting one of those.) Amanda downloading the situation to Angie by chatting up her captor. Amanda and Angie both work my nerves sometime but they really are a couple of badasses.

14 hours ago, cardigirl said:

The tumor names in the middle of a gun fight were also not realistic but highly entertaining, so I LOVED it!! The archery team, Will arriving in time, Ormy's (OMG I died when Franklin called him that) big moment running to the truck. Fabulous! 

The tumor names reminded me of the episode where they were coming up with names for the mariachi band in the stairwell.

Also, welcome back Caroline! I'm glad to see that being nearly disemboweled and almost bleeding to death on Pete's table had no lasting effects.

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milkyaqua

milkyaqua

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Darn it show!  You better not kill off Amanda or Ormewood.  I'm glad Faith was there for him because for a moment I thought it would be his kids.  Frankly, I was surprised Amanda survived to the hospital.  I know shows like the shock folks for the heck of it but I don't appreciate that (unless there's some contractual stuff going on and an actor wants an out).

I expected people to die in this epi (like the GBI officer) and some of the bad guys.  What happened to the sick homeless vet?

I'm glad Betty, Nico and Dr. Seth were fine.  The archery team were annoying but proved useful.  Angie was badass and so was Amanda.  I'm hoping Will and Angie's moment with the ultrasound represents a closure, if that's possible.  They are great as family but they don't need to be a couple.  I'm hoping the baby is fine regardless of how it works out between Angie and Dr. Seth.  Franklin trying to come up with names for Ormewood's tumor had me chuckling.

I thought Will and the sheriff having family drama while securing the bad guy in the basement was funny.  I'd definitely like to see Will at dinner with his family.

I'd like a little less piled on drama for next season.  Let's spread it out.

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tinderbox

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15 hours ago, Jodithgrace said:

Yeah, I didn’t understand how Ormewood went from being in that hospital lockdown to suddenly driving that truck full of serum. I must have blinked and missed something.

Those archers were hilarious. I kept wondering what kind of team they were. Turns out it was something useful. I mean a gaggle of gymnasts wouldn’t have been much good.

Quite a casualty list by the end of the episode, though nobody’s dead…yet. I hate season ending cliffhangers. 

I assume Ormwood was given a dose of the serum as a precaution before he was allowed to leave the hospital grounds to do his job.

I loved this episode.  Praying that Ormwood and Amanda are ok.  Too many shows have killed off major characters this season so I’m a bit concerned.

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Sarah 103

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16 hours ago, DanaK said:

That archery team stuff was hilarious.

As soon as the team showed up, I knew they were going to play a role and be useful in some way, I just had no idea how. 

16 hours ago, AnimeMania said:

All those girl archers were there with plenty of arrows, that would have been a great save for Ormewood and a very unique death (or incapacitation) for a bad guy.

15 hours ago, HyeChaps said:

I thought for sure at least one of the bad guys would have been killed by an arrow.

Except I think it was the wrong kind of arrows. My guess is that they were non-lethal/non injuring. Maybe slight a injury but not enough to be incapacitating.  

14 hours ago, agathapenny said:

Will and Ormewood being bros in their moment of adrenaline! Yay!

That was awesome and I want to see more of it. 

12 hours ago, redpencil said:

I also hope this is the end of any hint of future romantic relationship between Will and Angie going forward. Absolutely do not want any sort of love triangle with a child in the mix. Just be done with it please.

I agree. Will and Angie are better as friends than as part of a romantic couple. If Angie has the baby, Will is going to be Uncle Will without question. 

11 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

While I did love some of the humor of that firefight, the archers being snarky while being shot at didn't ring true.  I would think they'd be more scared.

This actually made sense to me. They are Gen-Z, which is known for gallows/dark humor. For example, they have grown up with school shootings as part of their life; they participate in drills for it starting the first year they enter school, they see it on the news all the time. 

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Atlanta

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52 minutes ago, Sarah 103 said:

This actually made sense to me. They are Gen-Z, which is known for gallows/dark humor. For example, they have grown up with school shootings as part of their life; they participate in drills for it starting the first year they enter school, they see it on the news all the time. 

And they are first responders. Them and medical professionals are known for gallows humor as a way to cope. What may seem rude or 'off' to regular folk, is normal for them. 

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HappyBelly15

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This whole season was awesome, and I’m so sorry it’s over. We need the old tv seasons back when 20+ episodes were the norm. January cannot come fast enough, but, at the same time, hopefully it’s more than enough time for the writers to continue writing episodes like Season 3 had and maintain the quality and entertainment this show has.

Peyton Place, that’s it! I recognized the music but couldn’t place it. Thank you! I’m old enough to remember the show and my parents watching it, but my mom clutched her pearls at the thought her child would watch it, so I never got the chance. 

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tennisgurl

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I was so scared that we would lose someone in this one, then it seemed like things would be alright and Amanda would pull through her surgery as Will and Angie confirmed that her baby was alright, then we cut to Ormewood at home and my stomach dropped. Thank God Faith was there, it would have been so much worse if he was alone or if it was the kids that found him. Imagine if Faith was at the hospital waiting on Amanda while Ormewood died in their kitchen. 

I swear, if they kill Amanda or Ormewood next season, I am going to have to write a few strongly worded letters to...someone. The cast is so good I would hate to lose anyone and for the show to lose its fun, which would be hard to recapture after losing either of them. 

I knew that the girls would end up coming in handy in the shootout, I did not call them being an archery team though, that was great. I have to say, Faith and Ormewood with those big guns shooting bad guys and bantering, was pretty hot. No wonder one of the girls wanted Ormewood's Instagram. Also loved Will and Ormewood's big bro moments after Will saved him with the car, they've really come so far since the show started. "That's why I hit him with my car!"

I'm glad we have more context for what happened with Will's parents, Will's dad might not be the perfect guy Will pictured but I do hope that he goes to have dinner with him and they can get to know each other.

Please don't put Will and Angie together together, they just work so much better as platonic soulmates than a couple and Dr. Seth is so good for Angie. Also, Angie got to do a Die Hard!

Is it January yet? 

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Irlandesa

Irlandesa

4 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

As soon as the team showed up, I knew they were going to play a role and be useful in some way, I just had no idea how. 

Except I think it was the wrong kind of arrows. My guess is that they were non-lethal/non injuring. Maybe slight a injury but not enough to be incapacitating.  

That was awesome and I want to see more of it. 

I agree. Will and Angie are better as friends than as part of a romantic couple. If Angie has the baby, Will is going to be Uncle Will without question. 

This actually made sense to me. They are Gen-Z, which is known for gallows/dark humor. For example, they have grown up with school shootings as part of their life; they participate in drills for it starting the first year they enter school, they see it on the news all the time. 

When I grew up, we had fire drills and tornado drills.  The way we behaved during the tornado drills was far different than the way we behaved when there was a threat of actual tornadoes. 

Kids do go through these drills and see this stuff on the news.  We all do.  Yet there is a different visceral experience when you're actually in the middle of an event.  Otherwise, people who experience mass shooting events wouldn't feel as traumatized as they do

2 hours ago, cardigirl said:

The poster meant the police detectives were first responders, the archery team were Gen Z.

Yes they did.  But the post they quoted (mine) was talking about the way the archery team responded. I'd bet first responders would probably be more serious as firefights aren't as common as they're portrayed on TV but I will give them a pass here because the tumor talk was top tier.

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DEL901

DEL901

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Re Nico…remember in the last episode Nico was sitting with and holding the hand of patient zero?  I was wondering why they had them do that.  It was to get Nico in physical contact with him.  He might have had some of the toxin on his hands and it rubbed off.

Loved the bad ass archery girls.  And Will and his father bickering while they are blocking the door.  And ninja Angie in the ceiling.

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