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  1. my father’s parents were born in naples and immigrated in the early 20th century. best as i can tell, lenu and lila were born in the late 1940s, which would make them a few years older than me. but their parents are of my parents’ generation. reading the novels illuminated a great deal about my father and siblings. the series brought beautiful visuals to that illumination. looking forward to the next chapter(s).
  2. It sounded like Elizabeth Hubbard (Lucinda) to me. She did an interview with Alan Locher a few weeks ago, as part of his series of online soap reunions, and she looked AMAZING. possibly. but having met both women, i’d still go with eileen (who was blond for many years before she became a redhead). in person, she’s very much the diva; meeting eileen is meeting lisa. while lucinda would certainly wear a boa, i doubt elizabeth would. she did look amazing in the locher interview. there were a few times when she or martha would say, ‘back in the day.’ i so hoped locher would say, ‘talk about “back in the day.”’ but he’s a publicist, so that wasn’t going to happen. the last 15 years of ‘world turns were a train wreck. would love to hear her thoughts — martha, too.
  3. some random observations (in no particular order): i wasn’t expecting much, and i wasn’t disappointed. less than a minute in and there were the bitch slaps and catfights. pretty much set the superficial tone for what followed. despite the focus on hyped-up, over-the-top drama, for a lot of viewers, the real pleasure of soaps is watching (and listening to) a couple of characters just having a conversation. i mentioned earlier the shameful absence of the p&g soaps. i knew the focus would be on the abc shows, but the reality is that soaps’ breakout into mainstream was built upon the that of the p&g soaps (‘as the world turn,’ in particular) in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. and for all the focus on luke and laura’s wedding, it’s worth noting that soap’s first super couple was atwt’s jeff and penny. while no movie stars asked to attend, their 1959 wedding was a taste of what would come 20 years down the road. but, at least they did acknowledge irna phillips (but not ted corday). sad to say, my expectations were so low i wouldn’t have been surprised (though i would have been pissed) if they didn’t. i want to know who the blond diva with the white boa from atwt was. i’m guessing eileen fulton, but they cut to susan lucci before becker could say. maurice bernard: ‘even if the show’s not good, they (fans) think it’s great.’ while there are fans who stick with their show come what may, there are also fans who don’t. and the attitude that there are no rules and that writers can make up any shit they please and fans will simply follow along is part (how big a part i can’t say), but of why soap viewership has declined. as noted above: ‘dallas’ was not the first prime time soap. peyton place was — on abc, no less. and irna phillips was story consultant. why was jon hamm there when it would have been so much more interesting to hear from matthew weiner, who often talked about the soap troupes he used in ‘mad men.’ of course, that would have required the show have some structure... and maybe a proper introduction of the interviewees — and what expertise they brought to the conversation. and it would have been nice if their comments were relating to a larger point being made. as it was, so many of the comments seemed random and unrelated — and repetitious. not to pile onto andy cohen, but his observation that soaps are no longer necessary was, well, self-serving? glad they included jill farren phelps’s observation that reality shows and cheaper and easier to produce than scripted shows, because that’s been a huge driver. finally: i don’t recall who said ‘how can you keep up with ‘general hospital’ when you’re binge-watching ‘orange is the new black,’ but there’s a real cognitive dissonance in abc doing a show ostensibility celebrating soaps where the explicit message is that the daytime soaps are not necessary. eta: for all the talk about social issues, cannot believe that ‘one life to life’ was ignored. the first show to include race, class, and ethnicity: beyond the groundbreaking carla gray passing as white story, there was her african-american mother sadie, head of housekeeping at the local hospital; the trainors, an upper class black mother and son; the polish-american, working class wolecks, the interfaith marriage of patricia riley and dave siegel,
  4. i’ll have a lot more to say later. but, for now: not one actor from a procter&gamble soap was interviewed — NOT ONE!
  5. tonight was a real tear fest. first ‘call the midwife,’ then this... and, at least for me, the tears were all earned.
  6. i knew it was paula marshall right away. for me, it was the actor playing shannon’s mother. she looked so familiar, but i had to check imdb for her name: stephanie kramer, who played dee dee mccall on the mid-80s show, ‘hunter.’ (apparently now spelling her name stefanie)
  7. re iain’s performance in the sondheim tribute:
  8. just one, overwrought, melodramatic cliche after another. i’m out. don’t want to know; don’t care.
  9. i was distracted by mark’s absence. did they even mention him in this episode?
  10. I don't see how they can afford a 2nd house without a contract for the sale of their current one. details, details...
  11. same question i was asking over at ‘chicago med,’ where choi (a physician) was putting together a crib before april (a nurse), who’a undergoing ivf (not surprisingly, the 1st round failed), is even pregnant! i mean these people are medical professionals!
  12. posted the following on the cbs sunday morning page. thought it belonged here, as well. “let me start my saying that cbs sunday morning is my favorite part of sunday. however... it pisses me off no end that the show rarely, if ever, acknowledges the network’s soaps, which, over the years, have generated billions — with a b — in revenue for cbs. in 2009 and 2010, they barely mentioned the cancellations of “guiding light” and “as the world turns.” and this week, they failed the mention the death of lee phillip bell, who with her late husband, bill, created both of cbs’s remaining soaps: ‘the young and the restless’ and ‘the bold and the beautiful.’ really? they do a passages segment every week. how much effort would it have taken? i just don’t get it.”
  13. let me start my saying that cbs sunday morning is my favorite part of sunday. however... is pisses me off no end that the show rarely, if ever, acknowledges the network’s soaps, which, over the years, have generated billions — with a b — of dollars in revenue for cbs. in 2009 and 2010, they barley mentioned the cancellations of guiding light and as the world turns. and this week, they failed the mention the death of lee phillip bell, who with her late husband, bill, created both of cbs’s remaining soaps: ‘the young and the restless’ and ‘the bold and the beautiful.’ really? they do a passages segment every week. how much effort would it have taken? i just don’t get it.
  14. wasn’t sure where to post this ny times obit for lee phillip bell: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/arts/television/lee-phillip-bell-dead.html
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