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  1. this! finished watching the gg reunion after my solo/zoom thanksgiving dinner. late in the final episode, during the protracted steely dan flash mop discussion (the last of many that had me shouting “SHUT UP” at the television), when luke said to lorelai, “you’re exhausting.” those two words summed up everything i felt about the entire reunion. like viqutorious, i too, “liked some parts.” i just don’t have the energy to spend any time figuring it out. one final observation: somewhere in the revival discussion, someone pointed out asp and dp were used to hour episodes and 90 minutes might have been out of their depth. but an hour network show is 42 minutes. so the 90 minutes is actually two full episodes, which would account for the weak story arc and the extended musical interludes — filler that took up time that could have better used been used to more fully develop the characters. ironic that longer the longer episodes felt so “rushed, forced and busy.” eta a couple more thoughts: rory forgetting to breakup with paul might have been funny had it be resolved in the first episode. but having it continue (sporadically) until the end was stupid. yeah, we get it, rory’s a mess — but was she ever that mean? same with the pool scene, which went on way too long. and her “i’m not back!’ throughout the summer episode got old real fast. given emily’s history with housekeepers over seven seasons, what i really would have like to seen was her hiring someone, then developing a meaningful relationship with them. of course, that would have required conversations. instead we get a ridiculous story with emily turning over her home to her housekeeper’s ever expanding extended family speaking some made language. made no sense. just so ironic that with so much more time, asp and dp told so much less real story. crazy — and sad. eta: last one — promise. the conversation between michel and lorelai at the secret was an all-to-rare example of emotional authenticity.
  2. look, this has always been 3 hour commercial for nbc personalities and shows, and float sponsors — on in the background as house gets dusted and the meal prepared. however lacking the performances, i live alone, and am grateful for some semblance of familiarity as i await my zoom dinner. eta: find myself underwhelmed after watching the first few minutes of the dog show.
  3. have to wonder if the show get a heads up about what kamala harris was going to wear. her speech was only a few hours before the show was scheduled start (damned football), and the costume people absolutely naled it..
  4. shallow observation: if i ever have to get dressed up again, i want the suit maya/kamala wore.
  5. so glad the show addressed this. the idea that discussions about racism shouldn’t upset white people underlies why race remains such a divisive issue in this country.
  6. when i got my first job in high school, i had to pay something (not a lot, but something) to my parents. found out later they used it to insure the car my sister and i shared.
  7. behind the scenes piece in the ny times: the conners return to confront the corona virus...
  8. Where was this? I ffwd'd through so much of this dreck that I missed it. just after weekend update finished. kate was sitting in the first row of the audience.
  9. nothing complicated here: when meloni leaves the show after season 12, the dynamics change a bit, but with florek and belzer still in the squad room it’s still an ensemble cast; but when belzer and florek leave after season 14, she who shall not be named becomes an executive producer and the saint olivia shit show begins.
  10. In real life, yes, it looks that way. However I remember reading somewhere that Allison always prefers to wear wigs, and she wears one as "Bonnie". we shall see...
  11. looks like allison has decided to embrace the gray. woo hoo!
  12. wlliam fichtner discusses his early work on ‘as the world turns.’
  13. just watched this. the conversation closes with each panelist giving their take on the season’s finale, ‘american pie.’ bring tissues.
  14. just saw this. too sad... https://ew.com/theater/nick-cordero-dies-41-coronavirus/
  15. this is interesting... https://www.huffpost.com/entry/law-order-spinoff-writer-fired_n_5ed6a632c5b61c46ffb30243
  16. my father’s parents were born in naples and immigrated in the early 20th century. best as i can tell, lenu and lila were born in the late 1940s, which would make them a few years older than me. but their parents are of my parents’ generation. reading the novels illuminated a great deal about my father and siblings. the series brought beautiful visuals to that illumination. looking forward to the next chapter(s).
  17. It sounded like Elizabeth Hubbard (Lucinda) to me. She did an interview with Alan Locher a few weeks ago, as part of his series of online soap reunions, and she looked AMAZING. possibly. but having met both women, i’d still go with eileen (who was blond for many years before she became a redhead). in person, she’s very much the diva; meeting eileen is meeting lisa. while lucinda would certainly wear a boa, i doubt elizabeth would. she did look amazing in the locher interview. there were a few times when she or martha would say, ‘back in the day.’ i so hoped locher would say, ‘talk about “back in the day.”’ but he’s a publicist, so that wasn’t going to happen. the last 15 years of ‘world turns were a train wreck. would love to hear her thoughts — martha, too.
  18. some random observations (in no particular order): i wasn’t expecting much, and i wasn’t disappointed. less than a minute in and there were the bitch slaps and catfights. pretty much set the superficial tone for what followed. despite the focus on hyped-up, over-the-top drama, for a lot of viewers, the real pleasure of soaps is watching (and listening to) a couple of characters just having a conversation. i mentioned earlier the shameful absence of the p&g soaps. i knew the focus would be on the abc shows, but the reality is that soaps’ breakout into mainstream was built upon the that of the p&g soaps (‘as the world turn,’ in particular) in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. and for all the focus on luke and laura’s wedding, it’s worth noting that soap’s first super couple was atwt’s jeff and penny. while no movie stars asked to attend, their 1959 wedding was a taste of what would come 20 years down the road. but, at least they did acknowledge irna phillips (but not ted corday). sad to say, my expectations were so low i wouldn’t have been surprised (though i would have been pissed) if they didn’t. i want to know who the blond diva with the white boa from atwt was. i’m guessing eileen fulton, but they cut to susan lucci before becker could say. maurice bernard: ‘even if the show’s not good, they (fans) think it’s great.’ while there are fans who stick with their show come what may, there are also fans who don’t. and the attitude that there are no rules and that writers can make up any shit they please and fans will simply follow along is part (how big a part i can’t say), but of why soap viewership has declined. as noted above: ‘dallas’ was not the first prime time soap. peyton place was — on abc, no less. and irna phillips was story consultant. why was jon hamm there when it would have been so much more interesting to hear from matthew weiner, who often talked about the soap troupes he used in ‘mad men.’ of course, that would have required the show have some structure... and maybe a proper introduction of the interviewees — and what expertise they brought to the conversation. and it would have been nice if their comments were relating to a larger point being made. as it was, so many of the comments seemed random and unrelated — and repetitious. not to pile onto andy cohen, but his observation that soaps are no longer necessary was, well, self-serving? glad they included jill farren phelps’s observation that reality shows and cheaper and easier to produce than scripted shows, because that’s been a huge driver. finally: i don’t recall who said ‘how can you keep up with ‘general hospital’ when you’re binge-watching ‘orange is the new black,’ but there’s a real cognitive dissonance in abc doing a show ostensibility celebrating soaps where the explicit message is that the daytime soaps are not necessary. eta: for all the talk about social issues, cannot believe that ‘one life to life’ was ignored. the first show to include race, class, and ethnicity: beyond the groundbreaking carla gray passing as white story, there was her african-american mother sadie, head of housekeeping at the local hospital; the trainors, an upper class black mother and son; the polish-american, working class wolecks, the interfaith marriage of patricia riley and dave siegel,
  19. i’ll have a lot more to say later. but, for now: not one actor from a procter&gamble soap was interviewed — NOT ONE!
  20. tonight was a real tear fest. first ‘call the midwife,’ then this... and, at least for me, the tears were all earned.
  21. i knew it was paula marshall right away. for me, it was the actor playing shannon’s mother. she looked so familiar, but i had to check imdb for her name: stephanie kramer, who played dee dee mccall on the mid-80s show, ‘hunter.’ (apparently now spelling her name stefanie)
  22. re iain’s performance in the sondheim tribute:
  23. just one, overwrought, melodramatic cliche after another. i’m out. don’t want to know; don’t care.
  24. i was distracted by mark’s absence. did they even mention him in this episode?
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