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S01.E15: 9:00 P.M.

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txhorns79

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Sir, under no circumstances is your wife a "good" mother.  She'd rather her kid die than listen to the medical professionals trying to help him.  The next time she needs medical attention, feel free to tell her than instead of doctors, you've invited people from her mom group to diagnose and treat her.  Then leave her in a ditch on the side of the road where she belongs.  I just want to scream and yell over that storyline, so forgive my being blunt.

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JeanJean

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2 hours ago, Carbon60 said:

I'm gonna iss my weekly Pitt fix until next season

Me, too. I'm a little sad. And I'm SO glad Robby wasn't suicidal.

I really wanted Jake's mom to say to Jake, "I'm sorry about Leah, but you're being an asshole. Robby didn't shoot her."

Why was everyone standing around the lumbar puncture unmasked? (I know, TV.)

And it's a miracle, but I actually ended up liking Santos a little. Guardedly.

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bybrandy

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I’m still a hard no on Santos. She just has to immediately peg the kid is suicidal, that Whittaker is homeless and she happens to have a spare bedroom that she can afford not to collect rent on. 
 

 

50 minutes ago, JeanJean said:

 

I really wanted Jake's mom to say to Jake, "I'm sorry about Leah, but you're being an asshole. Robby didn't shoot her.”

I suspect Jake’s mom said something akin to that but Robby walked off immediately and didn’t hear it. Because Robby is the character we are watching struggle today and losing that connection to Jake is part of that struggle. 

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Empress1

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31 minutes ago, rwlevin said:

Did we know earlier Abbot is an amputee?

No. I was moved by the reveal. I’d love to learn more about his combat past.

31 minutes ago, rwlevin said:

Jake’s still in shock. He’s just a kid. He’s gotta be mad at somebody. He’ll get better. 

This just happened, too. Robby hadn’t even told Leah’s parents yet. Jake hasn’t even started grieving - and he also likely has PTSD himself. I hope his mom gets him some therapy.

Is Javadi old enough to drink?

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jah1986

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I am going to miss this show.
I really hope Robby seeks professional help before season 2. I hope Langdon gets help too, he is in hard denial that he has a problem.

Still don't like Santos, I was willing to give her a shot but then she calls Whitaker Huckleberry and, nope, just don't like her.

I loved the reveal of Abbott being an amputee. Nothing indicated this during the show, he's awesome and fully capable. He's also comfortable taking the prosthetic off and just having a beer with colleagues. Loved his conversation with Robby on the roof.

That poor patient that woke up to the rats on him, I screamed too!

So nice to see Mel with her sister. I wonder if they watch Elf every week.

Maybe Dana just needs a LOA, I hope she's back in the next season.

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txhorns79

txhorns79

8 hours ago, JeanJean said:

I really wanted Jake's mom to say to Jake, "I'm sorry about Leah, but you're being an asshole. Robby didn't shoot her."

Her son was in the middle of a firefight and his girlfriend was just murdered.  She has bigger things to deal with than Robby's hurt feelings. 

 

2 hours ago, rwlevin said:

I loved seeing Mel and her sister. She’s like a junior Mel. So sweet.

Mel was honestly one of my favorite characters in a cast with a lot of good ones.  She just seems like such a lovely person. 

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gibasi

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I agree-I still can't stand Santos. But they've started her redemption arc. Traumatic past with sexual grooming and abuse and her friend killed themselves and now she gives Whitaker a place to live. And she's super doctor able to figure out patients are suicidal, what a patient took who overdosed based on her what? intuition? knowledge of festivals? and perform surgeries no one else can. Ugh. I can't stand her.   

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Blackie

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3 hours ago, rwlevin said:

Did we know earlier Abbot is an amputee? It makes sense as he’s a combat veteran. As someone whose stepdad was an amputee and whose friend recently became one, I love the representation.

 

I was wondering why he was heading out with the day shift crew,didn't he just come in? Then he said he was going to come back in a few hours so maybe he has it in his contract that he has to take breaks of his feet ??

 

Like this show but it was there was too many "let's try this bad ass technique" happening on one shift.

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SeanBug

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Loved how they saved the reveal of Abbott's amputated leg til the end.  Like just when the audience thinks, okay, it's over we can breathe with them, we see one more traumatic event that they have to live with. 

I understand how Jake feels, but he shouldn't talk to Robbie like that. And his mother should tell him to apologize. 

The measles mom is a fucking idiot. I work with a woman who didn't get any of her 6 kids vaccinated against Covid because one of them had immunodeficiency disorder and the dr thought the vaccine might trigger it. Another coworker/dear friend is studying to take her boards and told me, you get the other kids vaccinated so they don't get the one sister sick. The mother is a devout Catholic who thinks whatever happens in life is God's will and "it's okay, everything will be okay, God will take care of us" no matter what shitty thing happens.  Really??  These people drive me insane.  I had measles before the vaccine. Luckily I survived and was vaccinated as soon as the vaccine was available in 1963. 

So anyway rant over. Thank you, Noah, John and everyone involved in this wonderful show. 

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Notabug

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3 hours ago, rwlevin said:

I loved seeing Mel and her sister. She’s like a junior Mel. So sweet.

Did we know earlier Abbot is an amputee? It makes sense as he’s a combat veteran. As someone whose stepdad was an amputee and whose friend recently became one, I love the representation.

Jake’s still in shock. He’s just a kid. He’s gotta be mad at somebody. He’ll get better. 

I really liked the way the show integrated Abbott's artificial leg into the story without making a big deal about it.  It's in his past, there's a story to tell, I am sure; but the focus has been on Abbott himself, what a good doctor he is, how much experience he has at mass traumas and also what a good friend he is to Robby.  I liked the way Abbott casually mentioned his therapist and how it had helped him.  He sees Robby is drowning and he threw him a life preserver without lecturing or scolding or even giving therapy a hard sell.  Terrific character, I want to see more, which is the whole point of character development, isn't it?

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I was wondering why he was heading out with the day shift crew,didn't he just come in? Then he said he was going to come back in a few hours so maybe he has it in his contract that he has to take breaks of his feet ??

 

Like this show but it was there was too many "let's try this bad ass technique" happening on one shift.

Abbott said he came in because he heard about the shooting on his police scanner.  He wasn't scheduled to work at all; he knew he was needed and he came.  He had worked the previous night, but, since the ER is a 24/7 job, he wouldn't necessarily have been scheduled to work consecutive nights.

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tennisgurl

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I have not been a Santos fan at all during this season, but she has grown on me a bit and I did actually like her more in this episode. She still tries way to hard to be edgy and cool and I hope that the next season gives her less miraculous wins, but I did like her scene with the suicidal kid and it was sweet that she's going to let Whitaker stay with her. I would like her more if she was just abrasive, but she  always knows everything like if someone is an addict or if someone is suicidal based on tiny things, which I hope they cut out next season.

I am honestly here for wacky sitcom odd couple roommate hijinks with Santos and Whitaker living together. She's a sharp tonged city girl with a dark past, he's a sweet farm boy struggling with finances and scrubs! They're roommates! Coming this fall to Max! 

This was a really good season finale, as always I am tired but satisfied. When Robby was giving his speech I was almost worried that some other emergency would happen and everyone would have to stay even longer, even though I knew that couldn't really happen. Huge kudos to the actors as well as the makeup/hair people, everyone really did look utterly spent. I am really glad that we aren't going to be stuck waiting a thousand years for a new season, this has been an amazing season and I am going to need more as soon as possible, thank god its not going to be one of those multiple year breaks. 

We end up full circle with Abbot talking Robby off the edge of the roof, although I am sure that Robby wasn't actually really contemplating jumping for real. He so needed that talk with Abbot, such great performances from both actors and such a real conversation about how hard this is and how they can still press on. I loved the casual reveal that he's an amputee, makes sense considering he was in the military.

Such nonverbal shade thrown when the dad of the hardcore antivax mom said that she was a "really good mom" especially from Princess. She is clearly not a good mom at all, she almost let her son die because she trusted random people on the internet over doctors, screw her. The dad needs to grow a spine right now, at least the poor kid got the procedure, even as his horrible mom tried to stop it in the middle. 

I like that we got some closure on some plot threads but left some others still hanging, it feels real. The crew manages to save almost every life during the shooting, Vic gets a glimpse of hope with Mateo, McKay seemingly gets through to the troubled teen and avoids arrest, Robbie gets a much needed pick me up, and Mel gets to spend a chill night with her sister. On the other hand, we leave on a hard bitter note with Langdon still in deep denial about his addiction, Jake is still furious at Robby which is breaking his heart, Dana is so hurt from the day that she's strongly considering retirement, Collins is still presumably dealing with her tragic miscarriage, and while the crew get their much due kudos from the powers that be, their problems with money and staffing really aren't solved. Its only been one day, so of course most of these wont be solved with the tight bow of the end of a season of television. 

The rats returning to crawl on the asshole who tried to sneak in during the shooting to get pictures was the best most needed comedic moment to end on. 

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Empress1

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51 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Abbott said he came in because he heard about the shooting on his police scanner.  He wasn't scheduled to work at all; he knew he was needed and he came.  He had worked the previous night, but, since the ER is a 24/7 job, he wouldn't necessarily have been scheduled to work consecutive nights.

He kind of cutely groused “this was supposed to be my day off” as they were heading out.

24 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:

The rats returning to crawl on the asshole who tried to sneak in during the shooting to get pictures was the best most needed comedic moment to end on. 

And Drs. Ellis and Chen thought he was hallucinating! I laughed. I was like “who’s gonna tell them?”

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Sarah 103

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12 hours ago, bybrandy said:

I’m still a hard no on Santos. She just has to immediately peg the kid is suicidal, that Whittaker is homeless and she happens to have a spare bedroom that she can afford not to collect rent on. 

I don't think she immediately thought homeless. It seemed like she noticed he was going through a door that would be an odd door for someone leaving the hospital to go use, so she followed him out of pure curiosity. My head cannon/fan theory is that she is looking for a roommate but hasn't found anyone she liked so Whittaker was the best option. It seems he'll be providing handyman and cleaning services in exchange for rent. 

6 hours ago, Empress1 said:

No. I was moved by the reveal. I’d love to learn more about his combat past.

This is one of the many reasons why we need The Pitt: Nightshift. I would absolutely spend 15 hours on the off chance we would learn more a bit more about Dr. Abbott. 

4 hours ago, jah1986 said:

So nice to see Mel with her sister. I wonder if they watch Elf every week.

Based on what Mel said, I'm guessing yes. 

3 hours ago, Notabug said:

I liked the way Abbott casually mentioned his therapist and how it had helped him.  He sees Robby is drowning and he threw him a life preserver without lecturing or scolding or even giving therapy a hard sell.  Terrific character, I want to see more, which is the whole point of character development, isn't it?

I thought that was absolutely fantastic. If there was anyone Robby would actually listen to, anyone who had the slightest chance of getting through to Robby and getting him to seek therapy or least consider it, it would be Dr. Abbott. 

After one of the characters said the really weird/strange cases happen on the nightshift, I want The Pitt: Nightshift to exist even more than I did earlier. 

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Sarah 103

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My memory (which could be wrong) is that Santos didn't immediately jump to suicide, it was one possibility of many. She landed on suicide after ruling out almost all of the other possibilities: no recent dental surgery, no contact/regular contact with chemicals, no contact with someone who had Leprosy. As far as Santos was concerned one of the few possibilities remaining was suicide. 

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Infie

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E 1.15 -- 58.21

This episode is where most of the missing minutes went to, it seems. 

I liked this episode very much.  I thought that Langdon's story was handled very well - you can see the person he is underneath the addiction peeking out.  He's obviously concerned about Dana and about Robby, but the illness of his addiction is twisting it in selfish ways so that he keeps coming back around to 'me me me'. I hope he does in fact go to rehab. 

I loved meeting Becca. 

I also loved Samira's adrenaline rush and subsequent mood crash.  I know just what that is like.  Javadhi's counterpart horrified 'what even is this life' was a great foil for it.  

I am sad that Dana seems to have made up her mind to quit.  That being said, lady deserves a freaking break. 

All of the supporting cast - all of the nurses, plus Shen and Ellis and the surgery folks - were stellar as usual.  Welsh's 'fuck it we ball' attitude to the surgery on the pelvic injury was perfect. 

The highlight of the episode was absolutely Abbott and Robby on the roof.  I don't even know what to say.  It was a chef's kiss of performance.  Abbot's slightly frustrated, slightly desperate "I appreciate you." followed by Robbie's "Still talking!" made me laugh in the best way.  Well done indeed. 

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sharifa70

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On 4/10/2025 at 9:41 PM, JeanJean said:

And it's a miracle, but I actually ended up liking Santos a little. Guardedly.

Same!

 

On 4/11/2025 at 6:58 AM, Blackie said:

I was wondering why he was heading out with the day shift crew,didn't he just come in? Then he said he was going to come back in a few hours so maybe he has it in his contract that he has to take breaks of his feet ??

I’m pretty sure there was one point when he said it was supposed to be his day off.

 

On 4/11/2025 at 7:08 AM, Notabug said:

I really liked the way the show integrated Abbott's artificial leg into the story without making a big deal about it.  It's in his past, there's a story to tell, I am sure; but the focus has been on Abbott himself, what a good doctor he is, how much experience he has at mass traumas and also what a good friend he is to Robby.  I liked the way Abbott casually mentioned his therapist and how it had helped him.

I honestly wish more shows would do this. I love that in most of the British shows I’ve seen, if a character is a wheelchair-user or an amputee they don’t even address it; we’re just seeing people living their lives and doing their jobs (as it should be). There’s none of this “here’s Joe, who lost his leg in a tractor accident” or whatever unless the tractor incident is what motivated the killer.

This was hands-down the best season of tv I have seen in a very long time

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Sarah 103

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49 minutes ago, Infie said:

E 1.15 -- 58.21

This episode is where most of the missing minutes went to, it seems. 

I don't think that's actually how it works on streaming. They contracted for X number of episodes, not X number of minutes. You still have hour(ish) and half hour(ish) series on streaming but there is some flexibility. The hour long streaming shows can range from 45 minutes to slightly over 60 minutes. (or close to feature length episodes for Stranger Things). 

Unless your comment was supposed to be a joke I didn't get. 

tennisgurl

tennisgurl

1 hour ago, Infie said:

I liked this episode very much.  I thought that Langdon's story was handled very well - you can see the person he is underneath the addiction peeking out.

His scenes in this episode were really hard to watch, they were so well done. You could really see that desperation and panic building up in him and that addict brain taking over. When he was saying how he only took the drugs to deal with the withdrawal symptoms from the drugs, so its fine, it was like "oh, that is not the winning argument you think it is" and if he wasn't spiraling Langdon would probably know that. I really hope that he listens to Robby and gets help, even if he isn't ready for that now. 

Whitaker's really bad financial situation certainly makes those earlier scenes of him hording sandwiches and gobbling up food in the middle of the main floor hit different.  

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Infie

Infie

1 hour ago, Sarah 103 said:

I don't think that's actually how it works on streaming. They contracted for X number of episodes, not X number of minutes. You still have hour(ish) and half hour(ish) series on streaming but there is some flexibility. The hour long streaming shows can range from 45 minutes to slightly over 60 minutes. (or close to feature length episodes for Stranger Things). 

Unless your comment was supposed to be a joke I didn't get. 

Most of the time, shows (even streaming) tend to have a standard episode length for that show.  It's usually within a couple of minutes (excepting 'special episodes').  So the contract would be for, say, 10 episodes at ~50 mins each, or 20 episodes at ~ 26 minutes each.  

In the case of this show, the episode lengths were varying wildly, from a longest of 58:21, to a shortest of 38.29.  A typical TV one hour show is about 44 - 46 minutes long, and this show was designed as TV-compatible (it was showing on Showtime here in Canada for a little bit).  

After adding up the amount for each episode and dividing by 15, I have: 45.40 average per episode, which is right on the nose of a one hour drama. 

Cheers

 

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meep.meep

meep.meep

I must have spent more time looking at the doctor's legs rather than at the gurneys, but I knew Abbott had a prosthetic foot.  It wasn't the big surprise that apparently many of you experienced.

I liked this episode, but thinking back on the whole series - there were two different emotionally distraught young men.  Did they both have to have floppy black hair covering their faces?

And was it necessary for all the anti-medicine mothers to be white?  One was definitely written as a Karen, but she could have been written so there was a reason why she was nervous about the spinal tap.  The way it was written was actually straight out of an ER episode.

For the record, I had chicken pox, measles, mumps, and diptheria growing up, vaccinated my kids for everything, and drove 30 miles to get my first COVID shot.  I agree with the message but thought they were unnecessarily heavy handed.

Bklyndeb

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I was not expecting Dr. Abbot's reveal, but as a below knee amputee since I was 7, I can relate.  I have a more cosmetic leg and there are people who have known me for years who have no idea I have a prosthetic.   It isn't relevant to anything so it was nice to see ot portrayed in a matter of fact way. I'm also quite sure it was a physical relief to give his leg a rest. 

I really love this show.  Going to watch it all again with my husband. 

 

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juno

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6 minutes ago, sharifa70 said:

Langdon lost any sympathy I had left for him when he implied that he could hold Robby’s PTSD as some kind of stay-out-of-rehab-free card for himself.

It sounded like he was trying to blackmail Robby to get him to forget about the drugs. Not being apologetic or worried about others, just thinking about himself. Especially not even considering the intense pain Robby was going through. Real *** move.

Not sure about the legal issues behind it, but letting Langdon back into the hospital and allowing him to work after he was sent home after being caught with stolen drugs and being potentially high, puts Robby and the hospital in incredibly jeopardy. I can imagine a lawyer throwing this out in a hearing. This could be grounds to make the consequences light like 30 days detox clinic paid, back to work with no tests.

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leighdear

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On 4/11/2025 at 10:48 AM, storyskip said:

I know it’s causing Wells and Whyle a legal headache, but I laughed when the ER Easter Egg dropped in this episode. 

It took me back to the ER episodes where Carter got interventioned by Green & Kerry, based on Abby seeing him palm a syringe, post stabbing.  Then he got the sledgehammer from Benton about his addiction & Benton actually flew with him to the rehab center after describing how monitored he'd be.  

(Funny, but I'm in the middle of an ER rewatch on Hulu, I'm halfway through season 10!)

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Correct spelling of Dr. Weaver's first name
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Notabug

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1 hour ago, leighdear said:

It took me back to the ER episodes where Carter got interventioned by Green & Carrie, based on Abby seeing him palm a syringe, post stabbing.  Then he got the sledgehammer from Benton about his addiction & Benton actually flew with him to the rehab center after describing how monitored he'd be.  

(Funny, but I'm in the middle of an ER rewatch on Hulu, I'm halfway through season 10!)

Abby actually saw Carter inject the contents of the syringe into a vein in his wrist.  He palmed the syringe after that.  So, pretty clear evidence that he was doing something against the rules.  Way more evidence than Santos had against Langston.

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circumvent

circumvent

This was the episode I liked the least.

There were nice moments, like Santos offering Whitaker a room, Mel and her sisters, two very different neurodivergent sisters, the mini reunion in the park. But I hope they don't keep going into the private lives of anyone, or they don't bring the "thanks for your service hero doctor" because he is an amputee. I hope they stay in the ER, with ER cases, with only drops of private lives.

Couldn't stand Langdon. He can have all the explanations for what he did, still not excusable and he needs to just shut up and do the treatment, accept the monitoring and stop bugging people like a spoiled child would do

Santos trying to go to the bottom of the situation with the suicidal kid was nice but unrealistic in an ER situation. 

There still two rats in the ER. 

Jake is young but not so young that he needed to treat Robby like that. His mother had been there for a while, she could have helped him with the healing process and this includes not blaming Robby, but the shooter. emotions aside, even in unimaginable circumstances, reason doesn't completely disappear, and he had support and love from everyone. That was bratty but I guess they needed it to make Robby feel the weight of the day even more.

Nice interaction between Robby and Abbott. 

The measles kid story is pretty scary considering what is happening in real life with the new department head reviving the old, tired, debunked "theory" that vaccines cause autism and claiming that in a few months they will find "the cause" of autism. Guess what the result will be? Anti-science works like this, they decide what result they want and go back to find their proof. It is going to get worse.

The fact that the reasons the writers didn't go with a (black) mother who is afraid because of the historical use of people of color in all kids of unethical studies is valid but is not why the numbers of cases of preventable diseases is growing. We know why measles is back, it is not a new vaccine. What is new is a fabricated panic inflated by fanatics in power

I like the show a lot and hope they continue with the formula that make sit attractive to me - ER cases, focus on the system and not on private lives

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Racj82

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15 hours ago, Infie said:

Most of the time, shows (even streaming) tend to have a standard episode length for that show.  It's usually within a couple of minutes (excepting 'special episodes').  So the contract would be for, say, 10 episodes at ~50 mins each, or 20 episodes at ~ 26 minutes each.  

In the case of this show, the episode lengths were varying wildly, from a longest of 58:21, to a shortest of 38.29.  A typical TV one hour show is about 44 - 46 minutes long, and this show was designed as TV-compatible (it was showing on Showtime here in Canada for a little bit).  

After adding up the amount for each episode and dividing by 15, I have: 45.40 average per episode, which is right on the nose of a one hour drama. 

Cheers

 

None of this matters. One of the gifts of streaming is they can have the episode count and the runtime for each episode they need.

There are allowances of course. The Pitt crew wanted 12 episodes and Max wanted 15. That's why the Pitt Fest stuff happens. But, there is no missing minutes. There is nothing to make up for. The episodes run as long as they need them to. Streamers don't factor in ad breaks.

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iMonrey

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On 4/10/2025 at 9:22 PM, txhorns79 said:

Sir, under no circumstances is your wife a "good" mother.  She'd rather her kid die than listen to the medical professionals trying to help him.

Sadly, misinformation and propaganda are so pervasive today even smart people fall for it. The problem is where this woman is getting her information from.

I enjoyed this show overall, but if it had one real flaw I'd say it was how Santos was written. It feels like they wanted us to dislike her at the beginning so they could give her a big redemption arc but they went overboard with it by practically giving her superpowers. She, of all people, on her very first day, was able to spot that Langdon was stealing drugs, something that had apparently gone unnoticed by every one of his co-workers for all the years he's worked there.

She was able to threaten the guy who was apparently abusing his daughter. She was able to determine the blue kid tried to commit suicide. She sees Whitaker leaving and follows him then offers him a place to stay. On top of that she performs all these super risky procedures successfully. It was just all too much. First we were hit over the head with how abrasive she was then we were hit over the head with how great she was.

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anna0852

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5 hours ago, circumvent said:

Jake is young but not so young that he needed to treat Robby like that. His mother had been there for a while, she could have helped him with the healing process and this includes not blaming Robby, but the shooter. emotions aside, even in unimaginable circumstances, reason doesn't completely disappear, and he had support and love from everyone. That was bratty but I guess they needed it to make Robby feel the weight of the day even more.

Absolutely not! Jake is a kid who, within the last few hours just had the utterly worst experience of his life. His girlfriend essentially died in his arms while he thought he was going to die too! Now is not the time to be concerned about who he’s lashing out at or referring to his behavior as “Bratty“. There is plenty of time for that significantly far down the line from this. And I would bet Robby would be the first one to grant him that grace.

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leighdear

leighdear

The problem I had with the Whittaker/Santos scene is that it copies the "Grey's Anatomy" scene where Richard caught Callie Torres dancing in her underwear in an unused area of the hospital basement where she was squatting.  She then moved into Meredith's house with George.  

Cribbing old material from "ER" is one thing.  Taking it from "Grey's" is poor taste and lazy. 

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circumvent

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3 hours ago, anna0852 said:

Absolutely not! Jake is a kid who, within the last few hours just had the utterly worst experience of his life. His girlfriend essentially died in his arms while he thought he was going to die too! Now is not the time to be concerned about who he’s lashing out at or referring to his behavior as “Bratty“. There is plenty of time for that significantly far down the line from this. And I would bet Robby would be the first one to grant him that grace.

I disagree. He s not lashing out at everyone, but only at Robby. We could go through all the psychology of why this happens but I do think it was pretty bratty of him. I can imagine many other types of reactions in the same situation that would convey the same grief and what I take away has to do with a person's personality. Since there is little information about Jake - and I am fine with not knowing it - it is a matter of opinion if he was bratty or not.

I do agree that Robby would understand, and he did resign himself to allow Jake the time he needs. I also think that the point is not how Jake reacted, but that the way he reacted affected Robbie, on a day that was already triggering and when so much trauma happened.

 

 

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storyskip

storyskip

5 hours ago, leighdear said:

The problem I had with the Whittaker/Santos scene is that it copies the "Grey's Anatomy" scene where Richard caught Callie Torres dancing in her underwear in an unused area of the hospital basement where she was squatting.  She then moved into Meredith's house with George.  

Cribbing old material from "ER" is one thing.  Taking it from "Grey's" is poor taste and lazy. 

Actually I believe ER did it first, with Ray Barnett. One of my favorite lines “Weaver just sprayed for interns.”

Also Santos now reminds me of Rocket Romano. The unfortunate reality that sometimes gifted hands are attached to unpleasant personalities.

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