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S19.18: Money is the Root of All Evil

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smarty

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They are playing with the timelines again.  Last week, Christine's wedding happened, which was October 2023.  Then Meri decorated her Parowan yard for Halloween 2023 using the leftover commitment ceremony flowers.  This week's episode has Christine telling Janelle she bought an AirBnB in Moab, which happened in February 2024.  And Janelle says they are buying the flower farm in NC, which happened in March 2024.   Guessing when Kody met the realtor was late springish 2024 - since they were wearing short sleeves and no coats.  We are slowly catching up to present day....

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Kody trying to seem like a “bro” with the realtor made me cringe. It was all “ex’s Ami right?”. Also cringey watching Kody flexing in the muddy pond. How dare he call Meri’s friends bitches? At least she has friends. These episodes are short on content but I can’t get enough of seeing the OG wives smiling, laughing and looking cute while Robyn sniffles in her Sears polyester top.

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Granny58

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Watching Monday morning.  Only part way through and have to stop to post before I lost my breakfast!!!!   1.  OMG, saying Meri doesn't deserve as much land because she only has one child!  In-fucking-sufferable!!!!  What a point to constantly bludgeon her with.  You get the amount of land you PAID FOR!  And to learn that she paid into the family fund AND the family fund didn't help with Leon.  I. HAVE. NO. WORDS.   2.  Robyn saying in the last couple of years things went wrong, but yeah, for sure, for 30 years it was working.  AAAHHHHHH!!!  As though she were there for 30 years.  And, we know now how it wasn't actually working for the OG3.  We can see, and THEY can see too, how poorly and unfairly they were treated and how he manipulated them.  Oh, and what was different in those last couple of years to screw it all up?  Hmmm, I can't imagine (cough....Flagstaff....cough).   I am in a fury.  

Oh, and Kody, yuck....you don't need to explain the whole situation to the realtor.  He does not care.  Say there are other people involved, you'll need to run any offers past them...and you're done.  GAG. 

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Auntie Freeze

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Jen, irritating as the giggling can be, is representing us viewers in what she says and I enjoy that. Good to hear her speak up for Janelle. Interesting that she said she has the matches. Once Meri has her money, light it up anyway, Jen! We have our best china tea cups ready.

Is that the first time Meri has used Leon's name on camera? And what was that about having a lot more stuff to tell lawyers? Hmmm, a shot across the bow there.

Kody is just a repulsive specimen in every way. Does he have no cringe gene or something? How can a grown-ass man be this way?

I really like David. If there was anything at all off about him, the internet would have found it by now given he said he dated a lot. He seems bumbling but you don't keep a business going for 40 years without some steel under there. I liked what Paedon said about the trust fall.

There was very little Robyn and yet it was still far too much.

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Shelbie

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I’m surprised that I can even see to type because I was worried that my eyes would roll back so far they would stay that way permanently.

Kody was desperate to figure out a way to screw Meri and Janelle out of any money from the sale of Coyote Pass and scared to death that them getting lawyers would reveal all the ways he played the books.

Absolutely love that Meri and Janelle are refusing to back down and standing up for themselves. Shows what living away from the toxic mess of Kody and Robyn and having people around to tell them blunt truths can do .

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EastCoast4Life

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I am so glad that Meri finally came to her senses. Jen is a good friend, and Meri is lucky to have her. Kody is the biggest buffoon on the planet! I loved that the realtor did a Kody impression at the beginning of that segment. Then Kody goes on to monologue about the downfall of his family. The blow to his massive ego is the real reason he's upset, not the break up of the family. 

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Roslyn

Roslyn

My one takeaway from Kody's unhinged trauma dump for the poor realtor.

Kody (and crew) paying $800,000+ for 14 acres of land with a catchment drainage ditch because the property has a flood plain and then he throws up his arms and says "We have a pond and I have no idea why it's even here!"

The editors are doing well. Just when you think Kody couldn't ever get more stupider or more cruel...the next episode starts and he just keeps getting worse.

This is episode 18...when will it end ?

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Denize

Denize

44 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Didn't the money for the originally owned lots come out of the family pot and they borrowed for the other two?

Yes, but Kody thinks of the family pot as his money or sometimes Robyn & his.

I wish the realtor had said - that's a catchment drainage ditch, which limits where potential buyers can build and how they can use the property, as does the regional natural gas line, so it may take longer to sell. And, I can't even put the property up for sale until I get the signatures of every person on each deed.

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surfgirl

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24 minutes ago, Denize said:

Yes, but Kody thinks of the family pot as his money or sometimes Robyn & his.

I wish the realtor had said - that's a catchment drainage ditch, which limits where potential buyers can build and how they can use the property, as does the regional natural gas line, so it may take longer to sell. And, I can't even put the property up for sale until I get the signatures of every person on each deed.

I also wish the realtor had said, "if you own this la d woth three other people then all three need to be here to discuss moving forward because not doing so is illegal."

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Meow Mix

Meow Mix

OK, last week we got a replay of Christine's lap dance.  This week we get a replay of Kody in his underwear wallowing around in that filthy drainage ditch.  Make it stop.

I really hope Meri and Janelle got at least something out of this in the end.  Kody is such a cheat that he has convinced himself that people wanting their fair share of the property is somehow taking advantage of him.  I couldn't believe he was complaining about them expecting him to communicate what was going on.  He actually said he was doing them a favor.  If that realtor didn't insist that all parties be there to decide how to move forward, he deserves to lose his license and be criminally charged.  Of course, the guy standing there listening to Kody's sad tale of woe is a good start on punishment.  Maybe they should make him watch the footage of Kody in his skivvies in the drainage pond.

Zona is the best.  I loved Meri talking about going to the shelter just to pet animals and falling in love with that dog.  It's evident in the way she interacts with her that Zona is great for her.  I loved her asking the dog for dating advice.  

Meri's revelations about the family account make me wonder how many other things we assumed were covered by that account actually weren't.  We know Ysabel's surgery wasn't.  I want Janelle and Christine to spill the tea too.  I'm betting that Robyn and Kody spent most of the money in that account on either her kids or that ugly art all over their house.  And I also assume that the lot Kody claimed to have paid for by himself actually was paid for out of the family account.  And constantly throwing it in Meri's face that she only had one child is low.  I did appreciate her finally telling us that she paid for the wet bar herself.  That didn't come out of family money either.

That flower farm sounds like a pipe dream.  Janelle was all over the place talking about what they were going to do with lots of I don't know sprinkled in.  At least if they give up on it, they should be able to sell the land at a profit.  I still don't think they have the first clue what is involved.

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mythoughtis

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We knew that Meri paid for a lot of Leon’s college and car- because all the other kids went to state schools.  Leon wanted a private school- so Meri had to use her own money to fund the difference.      Please remember- Meri wanted the same budget as Janelle and Christine.  So she had more disposable income than they did.  I know why she got similar housing to them because that was what the builder says he would build- I’m not criticizing Meri for that.   I’m also not disparaging her for only having one child.I’m just noting that she could afford more luxuries for Leon than Christine could for her six. 

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mythoughtis

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4 minutes ago, General Days said:

The other kids got help.

From Kody or from their Mom?  Again Christine could not afford to pay six kids each what Meri spent for one.  Actually she probably couldn’t afford to pay 1/6 of what Meri spent on Leon  on any one of her 6 kids.   
 

Jenn is not a reliable source for what was spent on each of the kids.  She only knows what Meri told her 

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ginger90

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2 hours ago, Emmeline said:

Why did Kody keep telling the realtor that he personally paid for one of the parcels of land himself?  There were originally 5 parcels.  One for Kody, Meri, Janelle, Christine, and Robyn.  So if each of those people paid one fifth of the mortgage monthly, didn’t they all essentially pay for their own lots.

Five lots is what was in Kody’s mind, it was never 5 lots.

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General Days

General Days

34 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

From Kody or from their Mom?  Again Christine could not afford to pay six kids each what Meri spent for one.  Actually she probably couldn’t afford to pay 1/6 of what Meri spent on Leon  on any one of her 6 kids.   

 

So Kody, Meri, Janelle, Christine, and Robyn put money into a big family account. That account was used to help fund all sorts of things over the years, including college and cars for the kids. I have no idea if Jenn was right or wrong, but Meri didn't correct her, and they didn't show a couch interview with any of the other parents correcting her, either. What Jenn said is that the other kids got college and car money from that account, but Leon got nothing.

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Leon wanted a private school- so Meri had to use her own money to fund the difference.

According to Jenn, Meri didn't just fund the difference between a state uni and Westminster, Meri paid all of it.

I am not trying to be difficult. I'm just not sure how to word it any more clearly.

 

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islandgal140

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Am I the only hoping Meri choosing to have that conversation on the porch with Jen was a bit of a dig at Robyn? Too much to hope for? I am taking it anyway. LOL!

The financial disclosures always fascinate me so I loved all the tea spilled this episode. That might have explained why Robyn and Kody kept Meri around so long. She contributed to the pot to her detriment and their gain and all she got was that ugly ass parting gift (dream book?). 

College came out of the pot except for Leon's? Let us also not forget that 2-3 of the boys did the whole military thing and a portion if not all may have been paid for by Uncle Sam.  Ysabel didn't get a dime for surgery out of it, but I bet Robyn's sons did - Dayton for his accident and subsequent cosmetic eye surgery and Saul has had a few medical issues it seems. I don't think Truly's brush with death was covered by the pot either. That pot formed into the DABARKS family till once they moved out to LV. 

Coyote Pass is the site of all their broken hopes and dreams in more ways than one. Kody confessed he had stuff from multiple (yes, multiple) failed business on that lot.  I wouldn't doubt he also had a fail tree cutting business and we know why if you saw the last episode. Probably snow removal, drywalling, various MLMs. 

Kody deserves a spinning helicopter kick to the throat for him calling Meri's friends bitches! 

I heard the production company this season is new? Has anyone heard that? I feel like Kody's darkness is being less brushed over but YMMV. 

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mythoughtis

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1 hour ago, General Days said:

ccording to Jenn, Meri didn't just fund the difference between a state uni and Westminster, Meri paid all of it.

I am not trying to be difficult. I'm just not sure how to word it any more clearly.

I understood what Jenn said the way you meant it.( and I’m not trying to be difficult either)   I’m just wondering if Christine and Janelle paid for their kids out of their own money too like Meri or if Kody used the family fund for the other kids and not at all for Leon?   I’ve watched the show from the beginning so I remember the arguments about Leon’s college choice. Including the argument that the other kids couldn’t afford to go where Leon went.  Logan worked on campus.  Hunter, Garrison and Paedon went into the military. Aspen and MyKelti shared an apartment.   
 

Meri could have told Leon to go to a state school like the other kids and then she wouldn’t have spent nearly as much of her own money.     Meri deserves 1/3 of the money from the sale of Coyote Pass - regardless of how many  kids she had.  But you have to admit that Meri ( getting the same monthly money) had more money that didn’t need to go to  expenses at her house in Vegas compared to the others.  
 

And I do mean 1/3 of the money not 1/4.  There were Four wives- four lots.  Four houses in Vegas and Flagstaff. Christine gave her lot back to the Family not to Kody.  Robyn and Kody  should not get a combined 50%. 

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LotusFlower

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2 hours ago, surfgirl said:

I also wish the realtor had said, "if you own this la d woth three other people then all three need to be here to discuss moving forward because not doing so is illegal."

Talking to a realtor is not illegal.  One owner trying to sell a property co-owned by others is a different matter, although I don’t think illegal is the right word.  It’s simply not possible.

1 hour ago, mythoughtis said:

We knew that Meri paid for a lot of Leon’s college and car- because all the other kids went to state schools.  Leon wanted a private school- so Meri had to use her own money to fund the difference.

I don’t think this is true.  I distinctly remember a discussion Meri had about Westminster with Kody and the wives way back when.  Seems wild now, but at the time, Leon picked Westminster because they were considering a polygamous future, and they wanted to go to a school with likeminded people.  It was met with a lot of understanding, and I think she got her way.

Meri’s mention of the wet bar in this episode is a good reminder of how spoiled and, imo, selfish and immature she acted back in the day.  I always thought her pity party for only having one child was very manipulative.  A one-child household does not mean that she should have lived in a small apt. above the garage of someone else’s large house, but it also doesn’t mean that she should have received the same amount of funds for expenses as a six or seven-person household.  But she pouted and cried and made her case, and usually got her way.  The wet bar, the French doors, and the tuition at Westminster are examples. 

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precious pupp

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12 hours ago, MsMalin said:

How could all 4 wives watch Kody swim in that muddy swamp and then pose and still think he was the greatest thing since sliced bread? It was revolting. I had  2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th hand embarrassment for them.

I would have freaked if my daughter swam in such filth.  We went to a union picnic in our working years that was held at a park with a river/lake/creek running through it.  I told her she could wade in the water with her flip flops, but could not dunk herself and risk swallowing who knows what.  Kody showing off in his underwear was just gross!  🤮

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laurakaye

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12 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

Meri’s mention of the wet bar in this episode is a good reminder of how spoiled and, imo, selfish and immature she acted back in the day.  I always thought her pity party for only having one child was very manipulative. 

I agree, while also remembering that the worth of these women in Kody's eyes was to give him children, and I feel like Meri was being punished by Kody for something she could not control.  I do think she was selfish but Kody treated her like crap on the bottom of his shoe for decades, so she took what she could and when no one stopped her, she took more. 

Did I black out for a minute or did I hear Kody tell the realtor "I went skinny dipping with my daughters!"  That entire segment of Kody's disturbing stream of consciousness with the realtor made me so uncomfortable, I had to actually look away at times.  He put on that macho-man deep voice and proceeded to babble nonsense for who knows how long.  Kody turns into a very different person when it's just him and another man.  Make of that what you will.  He basically turns into Tigger and can't stop bouncing around.

Janelle buying 165 acres of land and saying she's going to plant flowers, maybe build some cabins, put up a meeting space, blah blah....on what cash?  Are Maddie and Caleb funding this?  How does a woman who had to move into an RV and later a college apartment suddenly have the money for such a massive endeavor?  And she's supposed to be the smart one?  I loved how the editors cut in stock photos of beautiful flowering gardens while Janelle talked...those must've been the imaginary flowers that only grow in Janelle's mind.

Kody calling Meri's friends bitches....wow.  Hope Robyn's friends don't take any offense - oh, wait.  She doesn't have any.  Huh, I wonder why?

  

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Natalie68

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On 1/19/2025 at 8:44 PM, Denize said:

Skinny dipping does not involve skivvies, Kody.  That poor realtor was probably throwing up in his mouth.

Kody needs a girlfriend to talk to about all this shit.  NOT the realtor.  What a loser.  I still cannot believe they were so fucking stupid they were swimming in a drainage ditch filled with random animal shit.

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AZChristian

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IMO, it make no difference what Kody wants to do with the dividing of the properties.  Listed below are the properties and the owners.  The sale of each property is divided equally among the owners of that property, unless the co-ownership contract states something different.

Meri gets 1/3 of the selling price of the property with her name on the title.  Period.

Janelle gets 1/2 of the selling price on one piece of property, and 1/3 of the selling price from the property that also has Meri's name on it.  Period.

Kody and Robyn each get 1/2 of the selling price on two parcels, plus Kody gets 1/2 of one of Janelle's properties and 1/3 of the property Janelle and Meri are listed on.

As these are four separate properties, they might sell for different amounts.  But for the sake of simplicity, let's pretend that each of the lots sells for $250,000.

  • Kody gets $458,333 ($125,000 + $125,000 + $125,000 + $83,333)
  • Robyn gets $250,000 ($125,000 + $125,000)
  • Janelle gets $208,333 ($125,000 + $83,333)
  • Meri gets $83,333

Kody cannot unilaterally sell a piece of property with a co-owner on the property title.  Janelle and/or Meri are within their rights to refuse to sell.  The company that handles the transfer of title will make out the checks according to the existing co-owners.  Kody doesn't get to decide who gets how much.

 

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Gramto6

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Sadly any way you look at it, Meri gets the very short end of that stick!! Which doesn't seem fair given she most likely invested as much as the other two wives.

I wonder a bit about Christine's share. Did she gift it to Kody/Robin in writing or to "The Family". That would make the divisions a bit different.

By the family I would suppose she meant all the other owners jointly. Of course Kody probably convinced her that saying Kody/Robyn was the same thing... sneaky ba$tard!

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Natalie68

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14 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

I understood what Jenn said the way you meant it.( and I’m not trying to be difficult either)   I’m just wondering if Christine and Janelle paid for their kids out of their own money too like Meri or if Kody used the family fund for the other kids and not at all for Leon?   I’ve watched the show from the beginning so I remember the arguments about Leon’s college choice. Including the argument that the other kids couldn’t afford to go where Leon went.  Logan worked on campus.  Hunter, Garrison and Paedon went into the military. Aspen and MyKelti shared an apartment.   
 

Meri could have told Leon to go to a state school like the other kids and then she wouldn’t have spent nearly as much of her own money.     Meri deserves 1/3 of the money from the sale of Coyote Pass - regardless of how many  kids she had.  But you have to admit that Meri ( getting the same monthly money) had more money that didn’t need to go to  expenses at her house in Vegas compared to the others.  
 

And I do mean 1/3 of the money not 1/4.  There were Four wives- four lots.  Four houses in Vegas and Flagstaff. Christine gave her lot back to the Family not to Kody.  Robyn and Kody  should not get a combined 50%. 

It used to bug me that Meri got the same about of $.  Now it doesn't.  Based on how this all shook out, Meri put in a fuck ton of $$ into the family plot and Kody is looking for any way to screw her out of what she paid in.  Robyn put nothing into the pot outside of the show and she got the lion share of it all.  In fact, the other wives all worked while Sobbin bought ugly art and statues all while having a nanny raise her kids.  The Meri/Christine/Janelle gravy train has stopped.

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mythoughtis

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She verbally ( on film) returned it to the family in return for keeping the proceeds of her house.  Which she didn’t even have to do because Kody had already removed himself from the deed of the house.  She did it to shut Kody up and to get out of his orbit.  However  I think the quit claim on the lot probably legally left just Kody on it and then he probably added Robyn

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surfgirl

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14 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

Talking to a realtor is not illegal.  One owner trying to sell a property co-owned by others is a different matter, although I don’t think illegal is the right word.  It’s simply not possible.

Exactly. And that's what I was saying bc Kotex was saying he'd list the property with this guy and then HE would take offers to the other parties. That is teyjng to sell your partners property without their permission or knowdge, until you bring them an offer. And I'm pretty sure that's not legal.

Re: the propert split, he claims he isn't going to 'screw them over' but if that were the case then he should be splitting the property equally. He is so transparent I'm his lying on camera that I hope Janelle and Meri get good lawyers who use the footage to bolster their claims somehow. IF they sit it 4 ways equally then Kody and Robbyn should also have to reimburse J&M the money they gave the family pot for the house they lived in, with interest. These two are grifting scammers IMO.

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SemiCharmedLife

SemiCharmedLife

12 hours ago, Gramto6 said:

Sadly any way you look at it, Meri gets the very short end of that stick!! Which doesn't seem fair given she most likely invested as much as the other two wives.

I wonder a bit about Christine's share. Did she gift it to Kody/Robin in writing or to "The Family". That would make the divisions a bit different.

By the family I would suppose she meant all the other owners jointly. Of course Kody probably convinced her that saying Kody/Robyn was the same thing... sneaky ba$tard!

I think you are right and that's why there are two lots with Kody and Robyn's name on them.  After everything the other wives have done for the family, Robyn gets the big mansion and now most of the property.

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Jeanne222

Jeanne222

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Any idea how much this group gets per person for each episode?

Now that would be interesting info!

I bet its a l o t !

7 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Any idea how much this group gets per person for each episode?

Now that would be interesting info!

I bet its a l o t !

I'm reading each cast member is getting 40k per episode.  13-17 episodes per season.  Not sure if I'm allowed to share the link. I'll just say salaries are speculated to be!

I'd say if true they are doing ok!  

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Tuxcat

Tuxcat

On 1/20/2025 at 10:05 PM, mythoughtis said:

I understood what Jenn said the way you meant it.( and I’m not trying to be difficult either)   I’m just wondering if Christine and Janelle paid for their kids out of their own money too like Meri or if Kody used the family fund for the other kids and not at all for Leon?

They discuss it season 6 episode 12. The family fund did pay for Logan's tuition and car. Aspyn had a car and would have the same tuition. Kody tells Meri that because she only has one child - that Leon's expenses can come out of her budget and not the family fund.

Yes, Leon's tuition was much, much higher. But Meri presumably paid it all and didn't receive the equvialent of in-state tuition.

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