Spoiler, Speculation and Social Media

[BAForever]

@General Days, really was intrigued by your post. I tend to agree that Kody is most likely neither a drinker or gambler. Even those he's a z-lister, everyone has a camera on their phones these days, there would be evidence. 

And totes agree about Tony- he's a famewhore who enjoys the spotlight. 

[General Days]

4 hours ago, BAForever said:

@General Days, really was intrigued by your post. I tend to agree that Kody is most likely neither a drinker or gambler. Even those he's a z-lister, everyone has a camera on their phones these days, there would be evidence. 

And totes agree about Tony- he's a famewhore who enjoys the spotlight. 

 

Thank you. You make a great point about camera phones. We probably would have seen more evidence of drinking or gambling than Kody and Robyn out to dinner or shopping in Vegas. 

He doesn't look like he regularly drinks to excess, either. By your 50s, if you consistently abuse alcohol, it tends to show. Kody can look silly, with his corkscrew curls, but he does look pretty healthy. 

I do wonder if he's not on testosterone supplements though, and if that accounts for some of his personality change. 

[Natalie68]

I kept forgetting to post this and it just popped back into my head.

Kody said that Robyn's dad surveyed CP.  I am thinking this is why Robyn's name is on the lots that it is and why she is on almost all of them.  I am sure he told them which was worth more in the long run.  It seems dishonest that the OG's weren't involved in that.

[MMEButterfly]

When will the show be back, please

 

[Ms.Lulu]

I saw that Gabe posted on Instagram for the first team in almost five years. He indicated he could fall in love with Chicago.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGJ1BV-uJCu/?img_index=1

If he relocates (he has graduated from NAU)

The Brown kiddo distribution looks something like:

Logan: Nevada
Hunter: Nevada
Madison: North Carolina
Savanah: North Carolina
Paedon: North Carolina
Mykelti: North Carolina
Aspyn: Utah
Ysabel: Utah
Truly: Utah
Gwen: Arizona
Leo: Colorado
Gabe: Illinois?

Robyn's kids: All Arizona

I imagine that since Gwen is married and her wife's family is in Arizona, that she is there for the long haul.

It is interesting that everyone else has left quickly. The likelihood that Kody will be able to mend relationships might get lower as they all move.

I guess Flagstaff was never really home for anyone but Robyn, Kody and their kids.

Edited February 17 by Ms.Lulu

[Orcinus orca]

42 minutes ago, Ms.Lulu said:

The likelihood that Kody will be able to mend relationships might get lower as they all move.

That was never even a possibility, in my opinion.  He's burned all bridges.

[ginger90]

2 hours ago, Ms.Lulu said:

Mykelti: Utah

She lives in North Carolina.

[Salacious Kitty]

5 hours ago, MMEButterfly said:

When will the show be back, please

 

Not until the Baldwin family show is over. It debuts this Sunday, so I guess 6 episodes for a first season?

[Ms.Lulu]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

She lives in North Carolina.

Thanks, I have updated.

[Elodia]

12 hours ago, Ms.Lulu said:

I saw that Gabe posted on Instagram for the first team in almost five years. He indicated he could fall in love with Chicago.

He looks happy! And I am happy for him.

[LilyD]

On 2/17/2025 at 7:27 PM, Ms.Lulu said:

It is interesting that everyone else has left quickly. The likelihood that Kody will be able to mend relationships might get lower as they all move.

Flagstaff was Kody and Robyn's dream. No one wanted to be there in the first place. Their joint attempt to relocate and put down roots was doomed from day 1. The few years they were there, the family had to deal with Kody abandoning 3 of his 4 wives and most of his kids. Like the rest of the world they had to deal with Covid-19 and the subsequent lockdowns, Ysabel's major surgery and eventually Garrison's death. There's nothing but sorrow connected to that place for them.

 

 

[smarty]

Does anyone know what degree Gabe got and when he graduated?

[BAForever]

9 hours ago, LilyD said:

 There's nothing but sorrow connected to that place for them.

Loved your whole post @LilyD, but the last sentence was awesome. When moving to NC, Janelle mentioned that she loved Flag, and stated she was leaving three kids there (including Garrison) as this was before the tragedy. Wonder how she feels about Flagstaff now. Am guessing she's very glad to be starting over in NC. 

Edited February 22 by BAForever

[ChristmasJones]

I stumbled on this blog today - she makes fun of McMansions.  Some of the photos remind me of K&R's former home (and perhaps their new one). Its a fun read.

https://mcmansionhell.com/

[General Days]

Sister Wives returns April 20th (which might be fun for those of you who celebrate 4/20).

Futon Critic shared this from the TLC press release:

New Episodes of TLC's "Sister Wives" Begin on Sunday, April 20th at 10PM ET
The series is back with five all new episodes as the Brown family navigates evolving relationships, living situations, and heartfelt moments.

MEDIA ALERT

New Episodes of TLC's SISTER WIVES Begin on Sunday, April 20th at 10PM ET

5 New Episodes and 4 Tell-Alls

SISTER WIVES is back with five all new episodes as the Brown family navigates evolving relationships, living situations, and heartfelt moments. Then, the family sits down individually with host Sukanya Krishnan in four one-on-one episodes to discuss the challenges they have faced over the past year and some of the most talked about moments of the season.

In the upcoming episodes, Christine and David discuss her difficult past with polygamy, while Janelle and her family settle into North Carolina, planning to buy land and start a new chapter. Meri reflects on her strained friendship with Robyn, and the family celebrates Aurora's baptism. Kody and Robyn discuss the future of their polygamous relationship. And as the season progresses, the family must face a tragic loss with the death of their son Garrison. In moments of reflection and honor, family members come together to share cherished memories, visit places significant to their past, and commemorate his life.

Following the new episodes, the four exclusive one-on-one episodes will offer a deeper look into the family's struggles, triumphs, and the ongoing changes in each family member's life. All-new episodes of SISTER WIVES start Sunday, April 20 at 10PM ET on TLC.

Follow TLC on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, and YouTube for the latest on all things SISTER WIVES. Join the conversation using #SISTERWIVES.

SISTER WIVES is produced by Puddle Monkey Productions in association with Figure 8 Films for TLC.

Source

Video:

 

GENERAL HOSPITAL FAN ALERT: Looks like Moss from Carly's kitchen is moonlighting on the Sister Wives Tell-Alls. Go to the 37 second mark.

[Orcinus orca]

Yep, just as I thought. Making money off of Garrison's death.  These people are abhorrent.

[js9548]

Since this is the spoilers thread, can I ask is the show completely done after this return on 4/20/25? I have read many online posts but do not know if any of them are true? Does anyone know which posts are true?

[RoxiP]

There is something ironic about this show returning on Easter Sunday (which I do celebrate by the way).

[Yeah No]

On 3/23/2025 at 6:22 AM, js9548 said:

Since this is the spoilers thread, can I ask is the show completely done after this return on 4/20/25? I have read many online posts but do not know if any of them are true? Does anyone know which posts are true?

I don't know but even I'm wondering about that and I'm usually saying that this show will go on forever until there's not one more drop to squeeze from this family. This has been an especially long season and they seem to be catching up to the present.

[ginger90]

On 3/23/2025 at 6:22 AM, js9548 said:

Since this is the spoilers thread, can I ask is the show completely done after this return on 4/20/25? I have read many online posts but do not know if any of them are true? Does anyone know which posts are true?

In October, 2024 Christine, Janelle, David, Gwen and Beatriz went on a stargazing trip. I don’t know if Truely was there also. Christine posted that they were filming in Sedona. If they are going to become more current it could be on this season.  This would be more “current” than they have ever been. So, my guess is there will be a season 20. Not factual just a guess.

[Yeah No]

46 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

In October, 2024 Christine, Janelle, David, Gwen and Beatriz went on a stargazing trip. I don’t know if Truely was there also. Christine posted that they were filming in Sedona. If they are going to become more current it could be on this season.  This would be more “current” than they have ever been. So, my guess is there will be a season 20. Not factual just a guess.

This is OT but I love your new avatar. That looks like St. Pat's in NYC. My husband the church and church organ expert told me.

[ginger90]

37 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

This is OT but I love your new avatar. That looks like St. Pat's in NYC. My husband the church and church organ expert told me.

Indeed it is. I wish it came out better.

[laurakaye]

Regarding Garrison's passing...I would've been upset, as someone who has watched this show from Day One, if they had glossed over their family tragedy.  We aren't owed anything from the Browns but at the same time, they're the ones who decided to air their family's business for the last decade.  But I am also pre-emptively nervous wondering if we will be treated to watching Kody and Robyn talk about what happened.  Kody is his father and no matter what I think of him as a person, he was also dealt an unfathomable blow.  But Kody and Robyn are so completely performative and that is the last thing I want to see on this show - Kody and Robyn on the couch trying to re-write history in any way, shape or form.  We all heard Kody say what he said about Garrison and Gabe.  Part of me just wants a small but heart-felt tribute to Garrison and leave it at that.  What I definitely do not want are over-emotional tributes from the people who knew him the least.  

In other words - Robyn, please sit this one out.  And Kody - be careful.

[KBrownie]

2 hours ago, laurakaye said:

In other words - Robyn, please sit this one out.  

She wouldn’t dare.

Robyn taking a backseat would likely be the best and most appropriate thing to do, but she probably won’t allow it. She’ll pretend and act as if she was there from day one and deserves equal consideration in all matters.  And that her kids, who probably won’t be that impacted, are grieving the loss just as much as the others.

What’s ironic is that I can totally see Christine and Meri, who actually were there with Garrison from the beginning, respectfully stepping back and letting the focus be on Janelle, Kody, and the most affected of the kids. Not Robyn. And Kody probably, I hope this isn’t true for all of their sakes, will go along with it. 

[RoxiP]

Christine won't be stepping back and she considers Janelle's kids almost as much hers as Janelle's.  I do think, however, that she will be there primarily to support Janelle and Janelle's children.

But I totally get and agree with what you are saying.

[xls]

21 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Part of me just wants a small but heart-felt tribute to Garrison and leave it at that

Same.  they don't owe us anything, true, but don't act like he never existed. 💕

[Orcinus orca]

21 minutes ago, xls said:

Same.  they don't owe us anything, true, but don't act like he never existed. 💕

They don't need to act like he never existed.  But how about a message at the beginning of the season saying that Garrison's death has deeply affected the family and will not be discussed on the air to allow the family privacy and time to grieve?  Then add a message about how to reach a suicide hotline.

You cannot tell me that filming this is not capitalizing on the tragedy.  People will tune in just to see how it is handled, a big boon to their advertisers.  Money is the bottom line, always has been. Disgusting.

[surfgirl]

You can bet good money on Sobbyn acting like she birthed Garrison herself. She's nothing if not predictable and tone deaf AF.

[ginger90]

In the opening of season 19 there was a message on screen.

This season of Sister Wives began filming in late 2022. On March 5, 2024, Kody and Janelle’s son Garrison passed away. He was greatly loved and will be deeply missed.

Edited March 25 by ginger90

[laurakaye]

10 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

You can bet good money on Sobbyn acting like she birthed Garrison herself. She's nothing if not predictable and tone deaf AF.

This is exactly what we'd better not see from her.  Despite all of her proclamations to the contrary, she was NOT there from Day One.

[Orcinus orca]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

In the opening of season 19 there was a message on screen.

This season of Sister Wives began filming in late 2022. On March 5, 2024, Kody and Janelle’s son Garrison passed away. He was greatly loved and will be deeply missed.

And it should have been left at that. Anything further dishonors Garrison and ignores his pain.  It becomes "all about them".

[eskimo]

I'll reserve my opinion on how they handle Garrison's passing until I see how it's actually handled.  But I will say that I hope it was up to Janelle, and Janelle ONLY.  She and his siblings knew him best and can decide for themselves what honors and dishonors Garrison better than strangers. This also presumes that TLC will defer to Janelle's beliefs, which...who knows. 

Also, we can say what we want about Janelle and her choices on how to make money, because...MLM's, but I absolutely believe that there is no way in hell she is angling to make money off this tragedy.  The pay is probably the same for the season regardless. I just do not see her as that type of person, whatsoever.  Even if it's not what other people would choose for themselves. I am giving Janelle the biggest benefit of the doubt on this one.  

Edited March 25 by eskimo

[laurakaye]

Did anyone see Paedon's - um, "problematic" - birthday wish for the podcaster Amanda from "We Love to Hate Everything?"

Amanda's co-host bought her a $10 Cameo from Paedon for her birthday, as a joke.  I saw the clip on Youtube.  The person who bought the Cameo asked Paedon to just tell some jokes.  Paedon rambles on and on, in a very fast tempo, about how the jokes he wanted to tell would get him in trouble for being racist and misogynistic.  If this is Paedon, I can understand why some of his siblings aren't interested in a relationship with him.

And listening to him babble on and on, he sounded just like Kody.

 

[Auntie Freeze]

I saw it and sighed. Apple something something tree.

[mythoughtis]

Reddit has a post saying that Coyote Pass ownership has changed -no sale-  but Janelle and Meri each own 25% now.  Comments go into detail about when it changed.  In addition, any of them can now sell their share without consent of the others. 

Edited Thursday at 03:37 AM by mythoughtis

[lookeyloo]

9 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

Reddit has a post saying that Coyote Pass ownership has changed -no sale-  but Janelle and Meri each own 25% now.  Comments go into detail about when it changed.  In addition, any of them can now sell their share without consent of the others. 

That is interesting. I wonder what buyer would want a portion of undeveloped land when the rest of it doesn't seem that it will ever be developed

[Absolom]

Did have to resubdivide or use the original plots?

[mythoughtis]

17 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Did have to resubdivide or use the original plots?

It appeared to me that they used the original lots and swapped names/ plus the right to sell their interest.   So all 4 each own the two bigger lots. Kody and Robyn own one smaller. Meri and Janelle  own the other equal sizes smaller lot.  Keep in mind, I’m going off the Reddit posts. I’m not searching property filings. 

[Absolom]

That actually sounds fair although complicated to actually sell except for the one smaller lot.  It would have probably benefited Meri and Janelle more if they had gotten one of the larger lots in just their names.

[BAForever]

Was waiting for one of our SW experts @ginger90and @AZChristian to give us the scoop, but wanted to say if the deal means K and R get less,  I'm happy. Plus this land has been sitting there for years. Assuming that is being taxed yearly. How dumb as these people? 

[AZChristian]

3 hours ago, BAForever said:

Was waiting for one of our SW experts @ginger90and @AZChristian to give us the scoop, but wanted to say if the deal means K and R get less,  I'm happy. Plus this land has been sitting there for years. Assuming that is being taxed yearly. How dumb as these people? 

I just checked the Coconino County records.  As of right now, the titles have not been changed from what I last reported.  It's going to take a judge or jury to override the existing deeds.  Kody hinting that he was going to have a realtor change things wouldn't be legal.  Property titles can't be changed on a whim.  If he does anything shady, Meri and Janelle should take his ass to court.

As to your last question . . . is that rhetorical?  ;-)

Edited Thursday at 10:04 PM by AZChristian

[mythoughtis]

@ginger90

Thank you for checking.  Reddit posters must be looking at false information then. I apologize for spreading it. 

[ginger90]

It’s not false information it just doesn’t show up in a typical place yet.

 

The names on the lots have been shuffled around. The two larger lots have all four names. One smaller lot has Robyn and Kody. The other smaller lot has Janelle and Meri.

[65mickey]

I saw that on you tube. The person reporting seemed reliable. She said new deeds were issued 3/26. I have to wonder who the heck would buy these lots, undeveloped land with no water, sewage or power? But 

it can take awhile before the Tax assessor's records are updated after new deeds are filed. I don't know why they would need a judge or jury to change the deeds. If all parties in agreement they would just have to have an attorney have everyone with ownership interest sign off on quit claim deeds.  That's how it happens where I live when families are dividing up property. 

[spacefly]

17 hours ago, ginger90 said:

The names on the lots have been shuffled around. The two larger lots have all four names. One smaller lot has Robyn and Kody. The other smaller lot has Janelle and Meri.

So I update Assessor parcel data as part of my job and I looked at the Coconino Parcel viewer yesterday and saw the shuffle. Sometimes things take a while to catch up, sometimes areas only update once a week/month. The data has to be fed from the local municipality/recorder to the county and then to the GIS service provider. Sometimes you have to go into the public record and find the new recording or a deed. It can be a mess sometimes and also unreliable.

[LilyD]

On 4/4/2025 at 12:18 AM, ginger90 said:

The names on the lots have been shuffled around. The two larger lots have all four names. One smaller lot has Robyn and Kody. The other smaller lot has Janelle and Meri

I’m struggling to see the point in doing this? I thought they all wanted to move on, and now the four of them together own two lots? What do Janelle and Meri have to gain from two small, likely unsellable lots?

I hoped Kody would buy them out. The fact that he didn’t, makes me suspect he has no money available to do so….

[Denize]

1 hour ago, LilyD said:

I’m struggling to see the point in doing this? I thought they all wanted to move on, and now the four of them together own two lots? What do Janelle and Meri have to gain from two small, likely unsellable lots?

I hoped Kody would buy them out. The fact that he didn’t, makes me suspect he has no money available to do so….

They should have put R&K's names on one big and one small lot and M&J's names on the other big and small lots. That way M&J could move ahead with a sale and split the proceeds 50/50 and get on with their lives.  K&R could keep their land forever for all I care.

[surfgirl]

On 4/4/2025 at 7:04 PM, Denize said:

They should have put R&K's names on one big and one small lot and M&J's names on the other big and small lots. That way M&J could move ahead with a sale and split the proceeds 50/50 and get on with their lives.  K&R could keep their land forever for all I care.

Sure but that would be fair and make it easier for J&M to sell and the bitter bitches known as R&K would never do the right thing. Methinks they doth protest too much about not trying to rip off J&M.

Edited Yest. at 06:54 PM by surfgirl

[65mickey]

8 hours ago, surfgirl said:

Sure but thst would be fair and make it easier fir J&M to sell and the bitter birches known as R&K would never do the right thing. Methinks they doth protest too much about not trying to rip off J&M.

I agree. But he wants control. At lease he and Robyn can't take out a loan against the lots that have Meri and Janelle's names without their them signing off on the loan. I still think selling this property is going to be difficult. 

[Adiba]

Allegedly before the change Meri and Janelle could not sell or will their shares in CP without Kody’s approval— now they can. It can be part of their respective estates.