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[mythoughtis]

Kody seems like many ( not all) divorced people to me - angry, bitter, hurt, etc.  He has got a major case of the ‘ how dare she leave me, I didn’t want her anyway’ flu.  The latest rant of it’s too risky for anyone to date Christine can be looked at from several angles/ the most likely true risk is that of Kody interfering in any new relationship  Christine may start.    The news reports things like that happening fairly frequently 

Edited December 31, 2022 by mythoughtis

[Auntie Freeze]

Thankfully, as Christine and Kidney no longer share a church, he barely has contact with the kids and she moved so far away, any meddling should be minimal.

I liked Gwen's take. ("Behold my daughter's p*ssy!" had me in fits). She's bound by her mom's TLC contract (and example) to not totally throw gas on the dumpster fire but she was clearly surprised at some of the exchanges between the adults. Which speaks to Christine sheltering the girls as best she could from the poison when this was going down. I never really took to Gwen previously, she always seemed so awkward, but she's grown into a lovely young woman.

[ginger90]

5 minutes ago, Auntie Freeze said:

She's bound by her mom's TLC contract

She’s an adult.

She stated in the video, she is not under contract.

[Auntie Freeze]

I understand that but what I meant is she's not going to eff over her mom.

[Libby]

😂

 

[Cetacean]

10 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

I can’t believe that anyone is paying her for this nonsense, she giggles and barely says anything that we don’t already know.

I only got 5 minutes in and found it a crushing bore so turned it off. Pretty girl, though.

Edited December 31, 2022 by Cetacean

[ginger90]

I admit, I enjoy her videos. Probably the main reason is, to me she actually has a fun personality.

Edited December 31, 2022 by ginger90

[Celia Rubenstein]

The psychology of Kody's self-soothing explanation for what's happened is fascinating.   And so full of potholes!  

In his little rodent brain, he is telling himself he has been alienated from his kids because Christine feels soooooo bad about leaving him that she has shit talked him to the kids in order to "assuage" her guilt.  Right.  She didn't shit talk him because he's been an outrageous, selfish, neglectful asshole and she (unwisely) couldn't help complaining about him to the kids.  No, she is intentionally destroying him in the eyes of the children because she feels guilty and needs to justify abandoning him. 

First of all, why would Christine feel guilty? Kody himself said more than once in that clip that ending a marriage because you were no longer in love was an acceptable act (he did it tio Meri!).  Christine had made it clear she feels like she tried to work things out for years but Kody was a no-show. She had to accept that they were not in love any more, nothing was going to change, and so she ended the marriage. By Kody's own standards, what Christine did is okay.  Why should she feel guilty?  

Kody has to twist things because his whole defense has been he didn't know it was so bad, she didn't give him a chance to work on things with her.  So he can't acknowledge that Christine had been expressing her unhappiness for a long time and he just ignored her because that would undercut his argument that he was a blindsided victim. It is such a load of crap.  Kody's entire theory is nothing but an attempt to once again blame Christine for something he caused - an attempt by HIM to assuage his own feelings about being rejected and revealed as a crummy father whose kids think he's a dick.  

I'm not sure I can bring myself to seriously comment on his preposterous suggestion that Christine is trying to make him out to be the bad guy so she will not look "risky" to other men.  Of all the self-serving delusions ... has he really lived that sheltered a life? Because this is not how it works. Men aren't investigating the circumstances of a woman's break up that way.  It's been my experience that that is THE LAST thing they want to be hearing about!  They damn sure aren't going to be looking for info on him. He is really showing how ignorant he is about relationships and dating with that one. 

I did enjoy the look in his eye when he was talking about it though.  You can see how much the idea of Christine being with another man bothers him.  It is almost like he is trying to "manifest" himself into a barrier to her hooking up, lol

Kody wishes he mattered that much.  But he doesn't.  No new guy is gonna give a shit about him and what happened with Christine.  But leave it to him to believe he is so important that Christine will suffer forever because she offended him.  He really thinks the world revolves around him.  But he's just a turd circling the drain.

 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2022 by Celia Rubenstein

[GeeGolly]

I think when 2.5 out of 4 women say you're a bad husband, you're likely a bad husband.

My toothbrush has a better rating than Kody.

Edited December 31, 2022 by GeeGolly

[Cetacean]

1 hour ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

It's been my experience that that is THE LAST thing they want to be hearing about!  It is actually *official* dating advice to not drag that baggage out until way down the road when you are safely in an established relationship, and then you still need to be careful because guys do not want to hear you complain about your ex.

Except that their lives have been splashed all over social media for years.  Hard to hide that.  But he's in lalaland if he thinks he is the "good guy".  One look at those dead shark eyes and the new boyfriend would totally understand who is so not "good".

[dariafan]

Jody wouldn’t know the truth if it was It front of him like dobby wearing a tea cozy 

[Tuxcat]

9 hours ago, Auntie Freeze said:

Which speaks to Christine sheltering the girls as best she could from the poison when this was going down

I don't think Christine deserves any accolades for this. Gwen may have not been privy to the intimate conversations of her parents, but we know from years past that Christine has definitely leaned on those girls - beyond a level that any psychologist would recommend. Ysabel most recently reported how difficult the last few years were. In addition, these children have watched their family drama play out on magazines, online forums and a weekly televised show for over a decade. It's awful to be honest and all the adults are at fault. I feel bad for the children in this family - they are pulled in too many directions.

 

[GeeGolly]

I don't think announcing, I'm in a loveless marriage, and storming out the door at a family function is keeping it on the downlow. 

[Celia Rubenstein]

13 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I don't think announcing, I'm in a loveless marriage, and storming out the door at a family function is keeping it on the downlow. 

I want more information about that supposed incident before I decide if I believe it or not.  Who, what, when, where, and witneses.   I also want Robyn to clarify what she knew and when about the whole supposed Meri reconciliation/Christine flip out, too.  

Mostly I want to hear from Janelle, though.  Did Kody really approach her to discuss it?  He claimed he approached all three of his wives and told them he was thinking of getting back with Meri.  Janelle is the only one who I see as not having a personal interest in answering honestly.  Christine and Kody are too vested, and Robyn is  a schemer so, lies.  Janelle is the one I would believe over all of them.  

 

[Cetacean]

1 hour ago, Tuxcat said:

I feel bad for the children in this family - they are pulled in too many directions.

Which is why each and every parent deserves censure.  They signed up with TLC for this crapfest and threw their innocent children into a world of horrors.  The stigma of the behavior of their parents and sale of their childhood to the tabloids is reprehensible. 

And now Mykelti and Madison have done the same thing.  Shame on them both - their children don't have a private moment, everything is out there for the world to see. Can you imagine the bullying Axel will face after the nasty posts his mother used to post?

All for easy money.  They sold their souls and the life of their children to avoid getting regular jobs and to build up their MLM base.  It's disgusting. 

[GeeGolly]

1 hour ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

I want more information about that supposed incident before I decide if I believe it or not.  Who, what, when, where, and witneses.   I also want Robyn to clarify what she knew and when about the whole supposed Meri reconciliation/Christine flip out, too.  

Mostly I want to hear from Janelle, though.  Did Kody really approach her to discuss it?  He claimed he approached all three of his wives and told them he was thinking of getting back with Meri.  Janelle is the only one who I see as not having a personal interest in answering honestly.  Christine and Kody are too vested, and Robyn is  a schemer so, lies.  Janelle is the one I would believe over all of them.  

 

No one has denied the loveless marriage incident. What has been denied is Christine pitching a fit over Kody getting back with Kody.

I think Janelle is the most honest too. But I'm not sure that is saying all that much.

Is this real? ⬇️

[Celia Rubenstein]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

No one has denied the loveless marriage incident. What has been denied is Christine pitching a fit over Kody getting back with Kody.

Who all has been asked about it?  I only recall Kody and Robyn claiming it happened.  Has Christine admitted it happened?  I mean I could totally see her acting out, but I want it from a better source than Prince Shithead and his Dark Queen.

[Libby]

While I agree that it's a very bad thing to put your kids on tv, the only defense I'll make for the Brown adults is, I think that they really needed the money.

Paedon said that they didn't love Christine's tapioca pudding because it was so good, they loved it because it was filling.

The Brown's had a lot of kids and not much money. I know that it was their choice to have so many kids, but it was their religion.

I used to be hard on Bill and Jen Klein from The Little Couple for exploiting their children. Where they were different from the Browns was that they didn't need the money. I think that the Browns really did need the TV money.

[Tuxcat]

Did Christine yell about her loveless marriage. She's dramatic by nature. She doesn't hold back. Gwen said something about her mom being in a "loveless" marriage even on this video above. I don't think it's a stretch. But tbh we really cannot believe any of them. They have purposefully and knowingly deceived the public for over a decade. The entire premise of this show has been false - since the start. How are we going to trust any of them to not spin whatever answers they give us? Janelle is very well spoken. But she's a spin doctor too.

[Elizzikra]

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Except that their lives have been splashed all over social media for years.  Hard to hide that.  But he's in lalaland if he thinks he is the "good guy".  One look at those dead shark eyes and the new boyfriend would totally understand who is so not "good".

Christine and I are roughly the same age. People our age (who aren't on reality shows) aren't, on average, as active on social media, as younger generations. If Christine is just dating, I don't know that a potential partner while have gone back through and looked at everything she has posted, much less things Kody has posted. 

Now if Christine makes a thing of it ("hey, I am a reality star and a former sister wife so go google me!"), especially early on, or if (God forbid) her dating life becomes content for the show, that could spark more searching than your average 50-something guy would do to prep for a prospective date.

If Christine wants to date and/or ultimately find a new mate, I'm happy for her and I root for her. But I don't need to see it. 

[Cetacean]

43 minutes ago, Libby said:

While I agree that it's a very bad thing to put your kids on tv, the only defense I'll make for the Brown adults is, I think that they really needed the money.

Five able-bodied adults could have all worked full time jobs.  Or at least four of them. Plenty of people with large families don't sell their souls to avoid actually having a regular job with a paycheck.

They are lazy and selfish.

[GeeGolly]

1 hour ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Who all has been asked about it?  I only recall Kody and Robyn claiming it happened.  Has Christine admitted it happened?  I mean I could totally see her acting out, but I want it from a better source than Prince Shithead and his Dark Queen.

Christine and Meri were also asked about it. IIRC, Christine denied doing anything to discourage Kody from getting back with Meri. She did not deny the loveless marriage incident.

[Misslindsey]

I really do not see Christine shouting that she is in a loveless marriage at a family event, especially if Truly was around. I can see her being upset or mad at something, but I just do not see her shouting that unless the gathering was just the adults. If she did say that then Robyn and possibly Meri cannot act like they were so blindsided when Christine told them she was leaving Kody. It may be true, but in my opinion Christine's angry or bad moments are not comparable to the constant awfulness that is Kody and Robyn.

[Celia Rubenstein]

16 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Christine and Meri were also asked about it. IIRC, Christine denied doing anything to discourage Kody from getting back with Meri. She did not deny the loveless marriage incident.

I guess I look at the supposed shouting out at a family event as part of the whole "Christine lost her shit" narrative Kody is trying to sell us.  Kody seemed to blend that story in there as evidence of her becomming unhinged.  And since I don't believe the general premise that Christine objected to Kody getting back with Meri, it's hard to believe Christine was yelling in front of everyone.  The baby is going out with the bathwater on this on, for me. 

That being said -  it is totally possible Christine did shout in front of people, of course.  There are a lot of reasons she might have said that, like, because it is TRUE.  But I doubt it had anything to do with Meri and Kody reconciling - per se.  I know I myself might be like, hey can we work on OUR marriage first?  But "you are sleeping with the enemy, no way, no how can you take Meri back!" I do not believe. 

At best - assuming it is not an absolute lie - I think Kody is trying to characterize Christine's (likely emotional) request to address their problems before he started focusing on Meri again as Christine "losing her shit" in protest to them reconciling.

Kody's inability to read and understand the emotions of his wives is constant and appalling.  And often ... convenient. 

Edited January 1, 2023 by Celia Rubenstein
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[Ms.Lulu]

If you can't wait until tonight to watch the episode:

 

https://www.facebook.com/102666745834237/videos/826215785152582

[OldWiseOne]

I can believe that Christine was upset and stormed out of a family gathering. What I don't believe is that Kody was ever considering reconciling with Meri. That's the lie for me, the rest is irrelevant.

[TurtlePower]

1 hour ago, Ms.Lulu said:

If you can't wait until tonight to watch the episode:

 

https://www.facebook.com/102666745834237/videos/826215785152582

Welp. Confirmed — Meri was an asshole from the get-go and Kody said the relationship ship was in trouble right away. Kody once said he wished he’d never married Meri — it’s a shame the two of them wasted so much of their lives in this mess. 

[Absolom]

If we believe Kody's current view of history.  Of course, Janelle felt much the same except she also has described Kody and Meri being thick as thieves originally.

[Auntie Freeze]

I was musing that Meri doesn't have the "left Kidney glow" that C&J have so she's still in way deep. Now I have to wonder - if Sobyn ever leaves him will she get pretty again too?

[RazzleberryPie]

32 minutes ago, Auntie Freeze said:

I was musing that Meri doesn't have the "left Kidney glow" that C&J have so she's still in way deep. Now I have to wonder - if Sobyn ever leaves him will she get pretty again too?

She never was pretty to begin with. Her insides match her outsides. 

[GeeGolly]

14 hours ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

I guess I look at the supposed shouting out at a family event as part of the whole "Christine lost her shit" narrative Kody is trying to sell us.  Kody seemed to blend that story in there as evidence of her becomming unhinged.  And since I don't believe the general premise that Christine objected to Kody getting back with Meri, it's hard to believe Christine was yelling in front of everyone.  The baby is going out with the bathwater on this on, for me. 

That being said -  it is totally possible Christine did shout in front of people, of course.  There are a lot of reasons she might have said that, like, because it is TRUE.  But I doubt it had anything to do with Meri and Kody reconciling - per se.  I know I myself might be like, hey can we work on OUR marriage first?  But "you are sleeping with the enemy, no way, no how can you take Meri back!" I do not believe. 

At best - assuming it is not an absolute lie - I think Kody is trying to characterize Christine's (likely emotional) request to address their problems before he started focusing on Meri again as Christine "losing her shit" in protest to them reconciling.

Kody's inability to read and understand the emotions of his wives is constant and appalling.  And often ... convenient. 

The way I saw, or heard it, which may be totally wrong was Kody throwing out a lot of shit trying to make Christine look bad. Maybe he was connecting the two incidents on purpose or maybe they were said in quick succession. Later when Suki brought it up to Christine, I believe Christine quietly said, well I was, in response to Suki mentioning the loveless marriage outburst. Then when Suki finished her sentence, mentioning the Meri thing, Christine was adamant that she never interfered with their marriage - ever.

So, again, I think the outburst happened but I don't think Christine ever told Kody not to reconcile with Meri. I believe Kody is mixing together some actual truths, with kernels of truth surrounded by outright lies. In the end is doesn't really matter - Kody's mission is to make Christine look bad and IMO, he's failing. Unfortunately, IMO, Christine is also trying to revise history to make herself look better, which is also failing.

Christine should just tell it like it is, she had plenty of reasons to leave without hiding her part in all the 30 years of bullshit.

Edited January 2, 2023 by GeeGolly

[Tuxcat]

1 hour ago, TurtlePower said:

Welp. Confirmed — Meri was an asshole from the get-go and Kody said the relationship ship was in trouble right away. Kody once said he wished he’d never married Meri — it’s a shame the two of them wasted so much of their lives in this mess. 

 

1 hour ago, Absolom said:

If we believe Kody's current view of history.  Of course, Janelle felt much the same except she also has described Kody and Meri being thick as thieves originally.

No one will ever really know what Meri and Kody were like in the first three years of marriage because all the adults are revisionists. But I do know one thing. If a couple is having problems, the solution is NOT to form a "celestial bond" with a "special best friend" who happens to be the ex-wife of your wife's brother. Gee, I wonder why that didn't work out?

[eskimo]

Nevermind, I won't be able to get this to work. 

Edited January 2, 2023 by eskimo

[dariafan]

23 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

 

No one will ever really know what Meri and Kody were like in the first three years of marriage because all the adults are revisionists. But I do know one thing. If a couple is having problems, the solution is NOT to form a "celestial bond" with a "special best friend" who happens to be the ex-wife of your wife's brother. Gee, I wonder why that didn't work out?

And planning to get married on meri’s birthday.  

[Castina]

One thing very clear so far is Kody an absolute ass and his ego is so bruised and angry by the couch sessions he saw of Christine this season that by the time they did this tell all his mission was to destroy her.  In doing so he only hurts and alienates his kids even more as it can't feel great for them to see their father tell millions that the only reason they exist is because Kody wanted a little bit of polygamy royalty to boost his standing/ego.  Wow......

I can see why Janelle gave up, he really is a bitter angry old man now with no consideration for 13 of his 18 children.  And if any of his daughters (Mykelti aside) thought he respected women because he wasn't as bad as some in their church I think he helped them see the light with the way he sh** all over their mothers. 

And Robyn is as egocentric and clueless as he is.

[ginger90]

35 minutes ago, RazzleberryPie said:

I actually have to defend Meri on being upset over that power play by Robyn. 

I thought it was Janelle.

[ginger90]

Just now, RazzleberryPie said:

Ok if it was janelle, whoever initiated it, I’d be upset and still upset at Robin and kody for agreeing to do it. 

Perhaps we’re talking about two different things?

[Meowwww]

Kody and Janelle were originally planning to get married on Meri’s birthday.  Wayyyy before Robyn. 

[ginger90]

9 minutes ago, RazzleberryPie said:

Ok my mistake. I thought kody and ROBYN got married on Meri’s bday. Whoever got married on Meri’s bday that was cruel.

No one got married on Meri’s birthday.

[RazzleberryPie]

45 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

No one got married on Meri’s birthday.

I’m about to delete my whole source of confusion original post.

[taragel]

A new clip of Janelle (and some Kody) from part three! GO JANELLE, GO!

Sister Wives’ Janelle Is 'So Tired of Counselor Robyn' Meddling in Kody Drama (msn.com)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/recaps/sister-wives-janelle-is-so-tired-of-counselor-robyn-meddling-in-kody-drama/ar-AA15YiEw?cvid=29d89fea48bb4d669c0c7187440f0741&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover

 

A little disappointed this isn't the segue into getting into Gabe and Garrison more but maybe there is more to come in the show itself.

Edited January 4, 2023 by taragel

[Liddy52]

OK, in the above clip, Kody is feeling betrayed (again) and he is unhappy that Janelle and Christine were vacationing together while he had COVID.  (You all remember,  the one he almost died of with the 99.8 fever). Anyway, my question is: what did he expect Janelle and Christine to do? They couldn't come over and take care of him. Were they supposed to camp outside his house and hold a prayer meeting that he would stop being--- ooops--- having a pain in the a$$???? Honestly, what did he want from them?

Edited January 4, 2023 by Liddy52

[mythoughtis]

1 hour ago, taragel said:

A new clip of Janelle (and some Kody) from part three! GO JANELLE, GO!

Sister Wives’ Janelle Is 'So Tired of Counselor Robyn' Meddling in Kody Drama (msn.com)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/recaps/sister-wives-janelle-is-so-tired-of-counselor-robyn-meddling-in-kody-drama/ar-AA15YiEw?cvid=29d89fea48bb4d669c0c7187440f0741&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover

 

A little disappointed this isn't the segue into getting into Gabe and Garrison more but maybe there is more to come in the show itself.

What was Janelle supposed to do for him while he had Covid?   Was she supposed to risk getting it again herself by coming into his home and bringing him chicken soup?  Aurora, as a member of the household, didn’t even do that.  Aurora stayed in her room except when she left the house for class, etc. Plus he wasn’t even that sick - as we have evidence of from his own filming.   
He did not go to Janelle’s when she or any of her kids had covid - he’s on film saying so. 
If he had not alienated his own children, there were several that could drop off groceries at the door.  Plus the nanny.  
 

[Twopper]

On 1/2/2023 at 5:03 PM, dariafan said:

And planning to get married on meri’s birthday.  

I found that appalling. It made me realize Kody had a mean streak. And I already had zero respect for Janelle for “marrying” her ex-SIL’s husband. Didn’t she ever read the commandments about coveting? 

[Joan of Argh]

On 1/1/2023 at 11:29 AM, OldWiseOne said:

I can believe that Christine was upset and stormed out of a family gathering. What I don't believe is that Kody was ever considering reconciling with Meri. That's the lie for me, the rest is irrelevant.

I agree… that whole reconciliation story is a big steaming pile of bullshit meant to keep Meri on “their” side against Janelle and Christine.

Robyn knows that Meri wants Kody back more than anything and telling her that Kody was ready to take Meri back into his bed but that nasty bitch Christine wasn’t having it is all she’d need to hear….. I think Meri knows it’s BS because the whole thing is so stupid… he suddenly wants her back because of Krispy treats?!?  But he acts repulsed when Meri asked what he’d do if she kissed him 😂

It sounds exactly like something Robyn would think up as a cover story just like her stupid “cookie” story 🙄

Robyn and Kody probably think up this crap after 10 cups of coffee at 3am while trying to get Areolablahblah to suck her binky and go to sleep!

[Libby]

3 hours ago, taragel said:

A new clip of Janelle (and some Kody) from part three! GO JANELLE, GO!

Sister Wives’ Janelle Is 'So Tired of Counselor Robyn' Meddling in Kody Drama (msn.com)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/recaps/sister-wives-janelle-is-so-tired-of-counselor-robyn-meddling-in-kody-drama/ar-AA15YiEw?cvid=29d89fea48bb4d669c0c7187440f0741&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover

 

A little disappointed this isn't the segue into getting into Gabe and Garrison more but maybe there is more to come in the show itself.

I'm so happy that they are getting to the Janelle part. Janelle speaks the most plain of the five adults.

This clip is the most satisfying of the whole tell all for me. Kody actually admitted that he acted ridiculously. I don't think that he or Robyn are willing to lie about Janelle like they do about Christine and Meri.

They seem more afraid to go after Janelle. I think that they know that Janelle and her kids will hit back.

Paedon and Gwen have said a few things, but they aren't as forceful as some of Janelle's kids. I think that Janelle's kids will throw down if Kody and Robyn start a war with their mother. Janelle's kids have always been more forceful than Christine's kids. Good luck to Kody and Robyn if Maddie, Garrison, Gabe, etc. go after them publically.

We saw how Maddie told the truth in her post about Meri. Gabe has given the most truthful talking heads on the show. Garrison is pissed. I can't even imagine what he will say if he unleashes himself.

Maybe now that we're on the Janelle part, we'll get some truth.

Edited January 4, 2023 by Libby

[Elizzikra]

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Maybe now that we're on the Janelle part, we'll get some truth.

Of all the wives, and probably all the (chronological) adults, Janelle also knows the ins and outs of their finances best.

[General Days]

12 hours ago, Libby said:

They seem more afraid to go after Janelle. I think that they know that Janelle and her kids will hit back.

Paedon and Gwen have said a few things, but they aren't as forceful as some of Janelle's kids. I think that Janelle's kids will throw down if Kody and Robyn start a war with their mother. Janelle's kids have always been more forceful than Christine's kids. Good luck to Kody and Robyn if Maddie, Garrison, Gabe, etc. go after them publically.

We saw how Maddie told the truth in her post about Meri. Gabe has given the most truthful talking heads on the show. Garrison is pissed. I can't even imagine what he will say if he unleashes himself.

Maybe now that we're on the Janelle part, we'll get some truth.

 

I hope so. I've always found Janelle's kids the most impressive, singularly, and as a group.

In general, I think Kody most values the relationships with and fears disapproval from five of his six oldest kids from the OG wives (Logan, Aspyn, Leon, Madison, and Hunter), more than he does with any other group of his children.

I think he knows how to work Mykelti (because she's more like him than the rest of the above, so his leverage in their relationship is different). Half of those oldest kids are Janelle's. I suspect he feels disengaged from Leon, since they came out as trans, but we haven't seen that storyline yet, and I'm not sure if we will see much of it.

Kody loves little kids, so the younger ones are still in his good graces by default.

His biological middle kids (Paedon, Garrison, Gabriel, Gwen, Ysabel, Savanah) seem like they never rated with him. They're just old enough, that (except for Savanah), they weren't little when the show started. I assume he enjoyed their baby and little-one years, but it's almost like they're not real to him, except when they don't do what he wants.

Robyn's kids are a different matter, because they're Robyn's. I don't think that's Robyn's fault. I think it is Kody's. He loved them in order to win her love (and depending on what the truth of her first marriage was, maybe because he got a charge out of rescuing them).

Anyhow, I think Janelle's family is important to Kody, because he knows they reflect well on him. And because Janelle and Kody were "best buds" for all those years, I think he respects Janelle more than he generally respects women, and that might be why he holds back about her. (Or, he's holding it for next season.)

[laurakaye]

15 hours ago, Libby said:

They seem more afraid to go after Janelle. I think that they know that Janelle and her kids will hit back.

 

1 hour ago, General Days said:

In general, I think Kody most values the relationships with and fears disapproval from five of his six oldest kids from the OG wives (Logan, Aspyn, Leon, Madison, and Hunter), more than he does with any other group of his children.

I have long felt that Kody doesn't rip into Janelle with quite as much force because he's afraid of the reactions from Logan and Hunter, but I can't figure out why that is.  He clearly doesn't give a single crap about their younger brothers Gabe and Garrison.  And Logan couldn't wait to get out of that environment where he was the de facto father figure to his siblings, so it seems like that particular father-son relationship is already strained.

I also find it interesting that Kody goes after Christine with such force when he knows that Paedon could squash him like a bug if he chose to do so.

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6 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

I also find it interesting that Kody goes after Christine with such force when he knows that Paedon could squash him like a bug if he chose to do so.

Maybe he will some day.  I don't know what Paedon would do if Kody went after him like he did Gabe.