S17.E16: Welcome to the Freak Show

[PrincessPurrsALot]

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Original air date 2023.09.27

[RoseAllDay]

Eight minutes in, and I’m already over it. I just can’t keep up with this anymore.

[Jst2Wld]

Will there be a reunion? I hope not. 

[ZettaK]

5 minutes ago, Jst2Wld said:

Will there be a reunion? I hope not. 

The reunion was taped on the 8th of September.

[QQQQ]

Heather isn't perfect, but she did a nice job of summing of what's really been going on. Unfortunately, Tamra flavored Kool-aid be mighty strong. Instead of water, that's what Shannon should use in her Sitolonic.

[ZettaK]

So Heather said that she would return to spend time with Jenn, and Taylor at their suite in Mexico, and she never did, or texted. Jenn was pissed.

 

[Jst2Wld]

My worst fears have been solidified! A 3 part? 

And what the hell is with Tamra's blue dress thing she wears in her talking heads? Is she channeling Tonya Harding? Trying out for Disney on Ice? Or the Ice Capades? Tacky Tamra as always.

 

[Pi237]

When Emily said “she called us all losers!”

why didn’t Gina say-no, she didn’t. ??

[QQQQ]

8 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

When Emily said “she called us all losers!”

why didn’t Gina say-no, she didn’t. ??

Exactly!! And Emily also wanted Heather to apologize for calling them losers. even though she was just told that didn't happen.

They really are jealous of Heather...

Now Heather is supposed to sleep text.

Omg, Taylor's voice is more grating than Gina's.

Edited September 28, 2023 by QQQQ

[WaltersHair]

I think Jenn just looks perpetually confused by everything happening around her.

[CSunshine76]

Taylor’s drunk voice…nails on a chalkboard. Shut up already!

[Pi237]

Heather’s imitation of Taylor was so good lmao.  
 

Loving how she’s got Tamra on the defensive. It’s about time Someone did. 

[esco1822]

Anyone else think Tamra is so obsessed with everything Heather is doing at this party, because she knows they are all on to her? All she cares about is having more people on her side.

[TexasGal]

Tamra was the one trying to spin what was happening.  The ladies were all approaching Heather, not the other way around.  

[Keywestclubkid]

Production coming with the receipts backing up Heather point by point .. this was her season they tried everything they could and she stood tall didn’t lose her shit and pointed out who actually was behind it .. 

[Keywestclubkid]

33 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Tamra was the one trying to spin what was happening.  The ladies were all approaching Heather, not the other way around.  

They even said let’s go one at a time lol Tamra trying to spin that was hilarious 

[snarts]

"Code Red Wastey" is my new favorite phrase. Thanks, Gina. 

Never thought I'd say this but I'm now a Heather Dubrow fan. The rest are all a bunch of sheep scared of Tamrat' wrath.  I do hope at least one or two wisened up/read the internets before the reunion.

Please let this be the last we see of Tamrat & Taylor.

[ZettaK]

1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

When Emily said “she called us all losers!”

why didn’t Gina say-no, she didn’t. ??

Heather said herself on the previous episode she called Jen Armstrong and Noella losers at BravoCon, and then that she called Noella a loser only on this episode. Two women who are not on the show anymore, unlike Gina and Emily. Her story changed, so it's possible she originally included others, as well. 

Edited September 28, 2023 by ZettaK

[mbaywife123]

Tamra is such an ass. everything she said Heather was doing was actually her (Tamra) doing. EVERYTHING!

Glad that Heather didn’t fold and basically told Tamra to F off.

Shannon telling John to put on his hat over and over again irritated me to no end.

Hopefully Emily will wake up come reunion time and realize Tamra is the devil.

Gina is starting to realize Tamra is a lying liar who lies.

Jenn seems like a nice person, leave her alone and quit talking about Ryan. 

Taylor needs to find another suitcase in a closet to disappear into.

[Pondlass1]

Does Tamra forget a camera is following and recording all the time?

I want to walk about in Heather’s figure…just for a minute.

[mbaywife123]

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

So Heather said that she would return to spend time with Jenn, and Taylor at their suite in Mexico, and she never did, or texted. Jenn was pissed.

 

Sometimes you lay back just to rest your eyes and then bam! You wake up an hour or more later.

This has happened to me.

[Axie]

Did we really have to listen to Jenn’s enema?  Ewwwww!

[eleanorofaquitaine]

10 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Heather said herself on the previous episode she called Jen Armstrong and Noella losers at BravoCon, and then that she called Noella a loser only on this episode. Her story changed.

Briefly naming one of the previous cast members and not mentioning the other is not really an example of "changing" the story IMO. It's more like omitting a detail that wasn't strictly necessary to the point.

That being said, on WWHL, Heather said she didn't actually call anyone a "loser" but that instead she had said to Tamra that, during last season, they didn't give her "anyone to play with" and by that, she was referring to Noella and Last Season Jen.

That would be a better example of her "changing" the story, though, I believe Heather's version over Tamra's. (IMO, she didn't really get a chance to explain what she said when they were at dinner in Mexico because everyone was just hurling accusations at her).

Edited September 28, 2023 by eleanorofaquitaine

[ZettaK]

12 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

Tamra is such an ass. everything she said Heather was doing was actually her (Tamra) doing. EVERYTHING!

Do you think that Tamra would say this on her (very public) podcast during filming to "incriminate" herself? She said it was an inside joke, and she was repeating what Heather said on BravoCon about the women.

5 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Briefly naming one of the previous cast members and not mentioning the other is not really an example of "changing" the story IMO. It's more like omitting a detail that wasn't strictly necessary to the point.

That being said, on WWHL, Heather said she didn't actually call anyone a "loser" but that instead she had said to Tamra that, during last season, they didn't give her "anyone to play with" and by that, she was referring to Noella and Last Season Jen.

That would be a better example of her "changing" the story, though, I believe Heather's version over Tamra's. (IMO, she didn't really get a chance to explain what she said when they were at dinner in Mexico because everyone was just hurling accusations at her).

Isn't it convenient Heather provided another version of what she said on BravoCon now that she watched what was filmed this season? 

[Pattycake2]

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Do you think that Tamra would say this on her (very public) podcast during filming to "incriminate" herself? 

Yes.

[mbaywife123]

6 minutes ago, Pattycake2 said:

Yes.

Agreed , Tamra is a nincompoop.

[Pi237]

Tamra is like Regina George on the telephone. 

“They’re all a bunch of losers!”

Heather laughs

”OMG I can’t believe Heather said you’re all losers!”

(obviously, I know this isn’t how it went down, before someone jumps to correct me, just using as an example of how Tamara operates) 

I had blocked the enema scene from my mind. Why is this franchise Obsessed with Housewives losing control of their bowels!? 
 

Gina looked gorgeous at the party. I wish she’d stop with the crazy big eyelashes because she doesn’t need them.  And as much as I can’t stand her, Tamra’s makeup at the party was great, too. But Shane wins for his butter t-shirt. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

31 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

Do you think that Tamra would say this on her (very public) podcast during filming to "incriminate" herself? She said it was an inside joke, and she was repeating what Heather said on BravoCon about the women.

Isn't it convenient Heather provided another version of what she said on BravoCon now that she watched what was filmed this season? 

I mean, yes, I think it is far more likely that Tamra would incriminate herself with her podcast than it is that Heather called Gina/Emily "losers." Based on watching these women lo these many years, that seems like the most likely scenario. 

[dosodog]

Dr. Tim was icky.  If he'd dropped it down a couple of notches, he wouldn't have been so bad.  But yeesh!  I wouldn't let him do a pelvic adjustment in a million years.

[Keywestclubkid]

1 hour ago, ZettaK said:

Do you think that Tamra would say this on her (very public) podcast during filming to "incriminate" herself? She said it was an inside joke, and she was repeating what Heather said on BravoCon about the women.

Isn't it convenient Heather provided another version of what she said on BravoCon now that she watched what was filmed this season? 

No matter how it’s twisted Tamra is the one in the wrong in all of this and trying to deflect 

[Keywestclubkid]

The fact Tamra didn’t mention her business once before this cover shoot tho .. she literally made talking shit about Heather her only storyline .. that’s funny and sad all at the same time 

[mbaywife123]

Night all. See you at the reunion!

[PrincessPurrsALot]

36 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

The fact Tamra didn’t mention her business once before this cover shoot tho .. she literally made talking shit about Heather her only storyline .. that’s funny and sad all at the same time 

Also Tamra is going to sell the business in two years, just assuming that she is going to make a fortune off of it.  Guess she hasn't done any market research to see how saturated the market is in CA. 

Tamra saying Heather is rallying the troops when that is what Tamra did all season. 

Tamra is terrible; she makes me defend Heather.  No matter what I will not defend Terry.  It will never go that far.

It seems like Emily just agrees with whoever she spoke with last.  So as of the end of this episode, Heather is okay and Tamra called her a loser.  Once she talks to Tamra she'll believe her.  That does not make her a good lawyer. 

We did not need a colonic scene.  You need really good aim when sitting on that thing.  I see law suits in their future.  

Ryan, put on a shirt.  Jenn date someone who doesn't honk your breasts in public.

[Cosmocrush]

27 minutes ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

We did not need a colonic scene.  You need really good aim when sitting on that thing.  I see law suits in their future.  

OMG!! What the Eff was that????   Who would buy that and why? 

How many different products has Shannon sold and why isn't Dirtbag David paying for his daughters education?

Edited September 28, 2023 by Cosmocrush

[dmeets]

Was Taylor trying to inspire an updated meme? And it looked like at one point she was sticking her finger in a giant bowl. Sheesh, what a mess.

Tamra was definitely freaking out more and more with each one-on-one conversation she witnessed Heather having. I’d say the jig is up but it would appear Gina and Jen are the only ones to have caught a clue, while Emily’s gunning for that tercera amiga abuela slot.

Was Shannon’s doctor the same guy who “wow”’ed while taking photos of her weight gain a few years back? Dick.

It gets said every time she appears, but it’s freaky how much Gina’s ex Matt’s girlfriend looks like that Dodd woman.

Much better finale party than last year’s “girl band.” Plus it was appropriate seeing the women’s final shots of the season dressed as clowns and wild animals.

Edited September 28, 2023 by dmeets

[swankie]

Damn it!  Tamra is making me like Heather!  That's not good.

Taylor is gross.  Especially when she's drunk!  So she fits right in with these women. 

Ryan looks like a weasel. 

Edited September 28, 2023 by swankie
Added a second thought.

[ChristmasJones]

Did anyone else notice that there seemed to be something weird with the video footage but not in the talking heads? I noticed a weird subtle lagging thing going on throughout the episode. 

[swankie]

3 hours ago, Axie said:

Did we really have to listen to Jenn’s enema?  Ewwwww!

I can't believe she sat on what looked like a hard plastic hose and had it up her ass!  Wouldn't that hurt like hell?  I just couldn't!!! 😖

[UsernameFatigue]

So seven minutes in, and Heather tells Terry that she never called anyone a loser, that it is not one of her words. Yet last week she admitted to calling Noella a loser. In fact I think she admitted it more than once. Sorry Heather, I am not a Tamra fan but I think you lie just as much as Tamra. Pot. Kettle. Black. 

Honestly, I don't know if I can take another season of Jenn. I have no patience with women who have a gaggle of children, but are clueless about their own finances. Maybe when your marriage was dying as you claim,  you should have spent some time figuring your finances out, rather than pursuing Dick. And why does Jenn not have $5,000? Isn't she being paid for being on this show? I am beginning to wonder how Will managed to stay as long as he did. At this point I'd take Heather for another season over Jenn. But I am hoping for neither. 

 

[dancingdreamer]

Tamra is such a jealous  little pea brain. Heather  is everything  Tamra isn't. Heather  looked striking  tonight, with very little makeup, and very long legs.  Whereas Tamra looked like bride of Chucky. Heather  only had to speak to one of the HWs and steam came out of Tamra's ears. I know Heather is no saint, none of us are, but if I looked at relationships,  and which couple love and respect one another,  it would be Heather and Terry. I hope Jen and Ryan make it, and he stays faithful. I love Gina added to her family  with a puppy, her makeup  looked better  at the party, than in her TH. I think  Emily and Heather  could  be good friends,  especially  intellectually, when Gina isn't around. As always,  I hope Shannon finds her happy, and doesn't  settle. 

[EtheltoTillie]

5 hours ago, swankie said:

Damn it!  Tamra is making me like Heather!  That's not good.

Taylor is gross.  Especially when she's drunk!  So she fits right in with these women. 

Ryan looks like a weasel. 

All people named Ryan who have been on this show look like weasels!  Esp. Tamra's son. 

I kept confusing Taylor and Jenn.

 

Very good WWHL episode with Heather and Jenny McCarthy.   Just sayin'.  And I avoid most WWHL episodes. 

Edited September 28, 2023 by EtheltoTillie

[bosawks]

Heather hit that sweat spot of while defending herself being sort of bored by Tamra's antics.

And being dismissive of Tamra is a surefire way to piss that little ball of hate off even more.

Edited September 28, 2023 by bosawks

[Pi237]

7 hours ago, dmeets said:

 

Was Shannon’s doctor the same guy who “wow”’ed while taking photos of her wait gain a few years back? Dick.

I would’ve fired that guy on the spot. And he was just as gross here. I swear, these women hire a lot of charlatans.  

[QQQQ]

Taylor was taking on a certain crazy Bette Davis quality last night...

[Pi237]

Shannon was so weird in that dinner with John. Was she trying to act sober? Her reaction faces to everything he said were so strange-wide eyed stares…I don’t see any chemistry between them. And she always looks in distress or confused. Odd.

[Beachdreamer]

Tamra ruins the show. She is so vile and mean and powerful that the rest of them just fall in line to avoid being her target. The way she treated Jen all season and Jen taking it is absurd. That Shannon was all "tres amigos" after that boat ride is absurd. Gina hearing that Tamra called her a loser and then saying, "Well Heather should have told me," is absurd. Emily being told it was Tamra and then still going in on Heather is absurd. They are all afraid of becoming the next target, so they stay in line on the target they have been told to focus on(either subtly or outright) None of this looks even a little organic and real. It's more fake than Taylor's lips.

And Heather is a good target for them. She is moving.  She is trying to restart her acting career. And she doesn't need the money from this show.  So they can focus on her without much guilt or concern for blowback from Heather. But it's obvious what they are doing, and that doesn't make for good TV.

[TexasGal]

I hope Heather moves over to Taylor's old franchise and hobnobs with some of her REALLY RICH FRIENDS who aren't so snooty as Heather, according to Taylor.  

[Pi237]

I feel like they’re told if they were really this person’s friend, they would start a fight with them, giving them a storyline and tv time. So, they all accept it’s not real at all. And that would explain all the ‘I love you’s, ‘I care about your friendships’ they’re constantly throwing around, as a reminder “I’m being this mean to you because it’s getting you camera time. So, remember it’s not real.”  
 

Otherwise, these friendships make No sense. Even for money, most people would not put up with their ‘friends’ treating them like this at all, or acting in ways that would humiliate their children, let alone on tv. 

[Keywestclubkid]

Emily “Tamra admits what she says and apologizes for it” …

 

ummm no she doesn’t her apology was a general IF I did something I’m sorry that’s not admitting anything that’s not taking any accountability that’s a backhanded thing lol 

Edited September 28, 2023 by Keywestclubkid

[Ss55]

Tamra is so....sniveling.  Yeah, that's the word for her. *sniveling*

And I don't even like Heather but have been virtually high fiving her the last couple of episodes based on her interactions with Taylor and Tamra.  Taylor should not have gotten wasted - she was doing so well until this very last episode!