Current Plots Discussion II: Discussing Today's Episode and Current Storylines

[Peanut6711]

10 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

Except show seems to have forgotten the minor detail that the judge could have been disbarred for even looking at that video - especially after she specifically told Chloe she couldn't discuss the case outside of the courtroom.

What is the deal with the show having all these pointless plots that don't really go anywhere and are over in a few days?  Sarah and Xander finally get married, Sarah throws a major hissy fit about something relatively minor in the history of Xander's misdeeds, and leaves him for approximately an hour and a half.  She then returns simply because she had a conversation with her mother and Xander essentially did nothing.  Kristen sues for custody, they have a few really stupid courtroom scenes and the whole thing just fizzles out.  Ava and Johnny seem about to start a relationship and then nothing - it doesn't even seem like they're staying friends.   And unless Paulina is leaving the show, her running for governor is another nowhere plot.

This! It's like Ron's writing style and it sucks.  Totally screams 'I'd fail a creative writing class if I took one.' He has no handle on pacing. I also thought the court resolution was poorly executed. Skipping over the scene of the judge's verdict to show a flashback was just choppy and anti-climatic. 

2 hours ago, sas616 said:

It certainly became pretty obvious it was him during the episode.     My memory is mush anymore, so for the life of me I cannot figure what Clyde's motive would be.  For a split second I thought maybe he was setting up Leo as a cover for Ben killing Abigail. 

Didn't see today's yet so does it just look (red herring) like he's the killer or we've been shown he is?  What happened to the video footage that cleared him? My gawd Ron really does supremely suck at writing mysteries.

The Writing Rom:

Ron:  "I don't know what else to write for Clyde and JR is reoccurring and won't be around for a while so I've decided he will be Abigails's murderer."  

Writing Assistant: "But sir, you could just have him go back to jail for EJ's shooting. You never legally resolved that loose thread, remember."

Ron: "Don't be silly. That would make sense and I need a big reveal that makes none."

15 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

That would have been awesome. Don't forget that the show was hinting that Marlena was pregnant.. 

To RoJohn or Orpheus? I don't recall those hints.  

[SouthernChick]

I was glad Clyde was revealed to be the killer. I never liked this pedophile. Nancy deserves so much better.

[RedElf]

I don't think Clyde is random drug tested because he was a dealer.

Jennifer takes her pills without water?  Eek. And that looks like a prescription bottle.

They rarely ever show a prison cell with bars, prisoners usually sit at a desk in the cop shop.

Man Kevin Spirtas is doing a great job.

According to the clock in the Horton house, it's 4:20.  Presumably in the afternoon.  How late is Town Hall going to be open for Clyde and Nancy's wedding?

Besides being ugly, Stephanie's dress lets her ladies show.

[boes]

13 minutes ago, RedElf said:

According to the clock in the Horton house, it's 4:20.  Presumably in the afternoon.  How late is Town Hall going to be open for Clyde and Nancy's wedding?

Oh Good Lord, is that another of Ron C.'s insider jokes?  Did he have the clock set at 4:20 because it signifies weed as a nod to JJ's magic donuts episode?

If that's the case, then here's one hand clapping......

ha

...................ha...................

[Pearson80]

3 hours ago, Peanut6711 said:

To RoJohn or Orpheus? I don't recall those hints.  

For Rojohn of course.. 

[peachmangosteen]

5 hours ago, Peanut6711 said:

Didn't see today's yet so does it just look (red herring) like he's the killer or we've been shown he is?  What happened to the video footage that cleared him?

Chad asked Nancy is Craig wears vanilla scented cologne and she said he never did but that Clyde does and then Chad remembered that Clyde was there when he hugged Craig and smelled vanilla. Then they showed a 'flashback' of Clyde going into Sonny's office with a knife. So, it seems like Clyde definitely stabbed Sonny but I guess perhaps there could still be another twist and someone else killed Abigail. I hope it's just Clyde though. It doesn't really make sense but Clyde is an unnecessary character that is a horrible person so at least if it's him they aren't ruining any characters.

2 hours ago, RedElf said:

Man Kevin Spirtas is doing a great job.

Yes! He was so good yesterday and today.

[CanaryFan98]

I'm just glad it wasn't Craig or Thomas who did it. 

That being said I would've bought Clyde if it was over Ben. I agree Ben should have been around to react so should JJ tbh considering he helped nail Clyde to go to prison in the first place as a drug dealer and now he killed his sister. Could've set up a nice rivalry of sorts between the Devereauxs/Westons which could've given us in a few years a teenage Thomas finding out about the whole Ben/Abby/Chad triangle and how Ben became a serial killer afterwards leading to angst for Thomas.

However that's too character driven for soaps these days.

[norcalgal]

8 hours ago, 4evaQuez said:

I wished RSW was a recast Nathan Horton. It would be another Horton on a show that seems like they are rapidly disappearing, Nathan/Stephanie already have romantic history, Nathan/Sarah are nephew/aunt and presumably should have a great relationship, Nathan/Brady were friendly-ish, and Nathan and Maggie relationship, and a much needed extra doctor.

Sooo much this!

I haven't been watching, but I'm still not getting the motive for Clyde to kill Abigial/stab Sonny?  Help, please.

[boes]

31 minutes ago, norcalgal said:

Sooo much this!

I haven't been watching, but I'm still not getting the motive for Clyde to kill Abigial/stab Sonny?  Help, please.

I think Abby just wore one too many flowy peasant type dresses and he flipped out.  There have been other documented cases.

With Sonny, it's undoubtedly his porn moustache.  That thing is deadly.

[Peanut6711]

42 minutes ago, boes said:

I think Abby just wore one too many flowy peasant type dresses and he flipped out.  There have been other documented cases.

With Sonny, it's undoubtedly his porn moustache.  That thing is deadly.

It would be funny if the judge heard Clyde's defense, "Your honor, just look at that porn 'stashe. It drove me to insanity."  Case dismissed. 

4 hours ago, RedElf said:

Jennifer takes her pills without water?  Eek. And that looks like a prescription bottle.

She's really screwed if she gets a stomach ulcer.  Kayla will pass out before properly treating it. 

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

Chad asked Nancy is Craig wears vanilla scented cologne and she said he never did but that Clyde does and then Chad remembered that Clyde was there when he hugged Craig and smelled vanilla. Then they showed a 'flashback' of Clyde going into Sonny's office with a knife. So, it seems like Clyde definitely stabbed Sonny but I guess perhaps there could still be another twist and someone else killed Abigail. I hope it's just Clyde though. It doesn't really make sense but Clyde is an unnecessary character that is a horrible person so at least if it's him they aren't ruining any characters.

Oh brother!  Clyde wears vanilla cologne. Of course he does. 

[RedElf]

The little scene with Alex and Clyde where Alex said, "Don't call me son." was just dumb.

[KBrownie]

Good for Jennifer to get out what she's probably been feeling for a long time.  She's been asked by Jack repeatedly to be "understanding" of all the vicious and nasty things Gwen has done, including deliberately trying to take Abigail's life.  Just because she didn't do it this time doesn't negate all the times she DID try to kill her.  If Jack wants to just forget and hand wash all that away, that's his business.  He shouldn't ask Jennifer to.  Jennifer has had to push all her feelings down, including grieving her own mother in service of poor, poor, Gwen's feelings.  Good for her for not doing it anymore.  Gwen should STFU and get out of Jennifer's face and her house.  How dare she even talk to her after all she's done.  She should call Jack if she wants to see him and stay away from Jennifer and her home.

This is just another attempt to salvage and redeem the failed retcon.  This time on Jennifer's back.  Poor Gwen.  Jen's being mean to her even though she's right.  Poor Gwen went through this with her mother.  No doubt they'll have Jen apologizing to the nasty wench before this is all over.  Gwen to the rescue! NO mention of how Gwen's actions are partly responsible for all Jennifer has been through to get her to this point.  Stupid Jack is just clueless.  I hope Jennifer does make him choose and kicks him out when he makes the wrong choice because "poor Gwen."  The two of them deserve each other at this point.

[SouthernChick]

I might be in the minority, but I like Gwen. She’s not any worse than most of these idiots on the show.

[WendyCR72]

2 hours ago, RedElf said:

The little scene with Alex and Clyde where Alex said, "Don't call me son." was just dumb.

So...typical Ron Carlivati shitshow idiocy, then?

[Peanut6711]

39 minutes ago, SouthernChick said:

I might be in the minority, but I like Gwen. She’s not any worse than most of these idiots on the show.

As long as she doesn't puke on the floor, I'm fine with Gwen.  There are plenty of people on this show who either annoy or bore me far more. 

[Ral80]

Just so I have this straight, Days wrote a story about

A) A man who would rather marry a grifter than be told the truth. When said man was told the truth was so outraged, he devised a plan to kill or get back at them.

or

B) A man killed a woman and attempted to kill a man because _______????

This story is on par with Adrienne's and Laura's deaths, it wasn't warranted or welcomed.

[Frozendiva]

I don't get Clyde's motive for killing Abigail or attacking Sonny. I wonder if the writers just had a dartboard and threw a few darts and bingo! we have a killer. I cannot imagine Clyde wearing anything vanilla scented unless the prison had rules for scents and only a few were allowed.  I see him as more the Old Spice type.

Abs could just have been hit by a car and killed. No murder, no nothing. Just a senseless act.

He sure was quick to want to marry Nancy. I would take it as non-romantic and a red flag. Why the rush.

Yeah, Gwen, you did go through your mom's addiction, but Jennifer or Jack have not asked for help. And it is unlikely that they would, given that some of your behaviour contributed to the pill popping. It is going to take a lot for the show to redeem the character.

I did enjoy Craig's visit with Leo.

[DaphneCat]

3 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

eah, Gwen, you did go through your mom's addiction, but Jennifer or Jack have not asked for help. And it is unlikely that they would, given that some of your behaviour contributed to the pill popping. It is going to take a lot for the show to redeem the character.

But she's not wrong that Jack really should know.  Jennifer will never tell him.  

[FilmTVGeek80]

Given that Clyde's a child molester, I don't even care that he doesn't have a real motive to kill Abigail. I have no idea if they're just pulling this out of their butts, which would be parr for the course, but it would be nice if this was their plan all along. It would be sort of clever that the first person that was suspected/arrested did it after all - even with an "airtight" alibi. I know I've watched L&O/L&O SVU, etc. episodes where the person who allegedly had an airtight alibi did end up being the killer after all. I think Rafe said there was video footage of Clyde fishing or something. Maybe the footage was edited or the timestamp changed. It also feels like Clyde is rushing this wedding to Nancy. I wonder if it's for a nefarious reason. Or maybe he does actually care about her and framing Leo was his sick attempt to kill two birds (get revenge for Nancy and get a patsy to take the fall for his crime.)

Ugh, I hate that Jennifer got to finally drop the sweet, patient attitude with Gwen and give her what she deserves when Jennifer is the one hiding something. Gwen deserved everything she said, but it's going to be blown off as it being because Jen was under the influence and was just being unduly mean. Plus, you just know Gwen will tell Jack and when Jen does eventually get better she'll have to apologize and express gratitude to that witch.

[KBrownie]

1 hour ago, DaphneCat said:

But she's not wrong that Jack really should know.  Jennifer will never tell him.  

Yeah, but she's the LAST person that needs to be involved with telling him.  Let Maggie do it.  She has more experience and has the history with both Jennifer and Jack that it would be helping Jennifer without all the nasty backstory involving Gwen.  Same with Julie.  It would be about Jennifer getting help.  Not providing a way for Gwen to score points with Jack.  There was no need for her in this story.  Except that it's really a Gwen story disguised as being about Jennifer.  Gwen can talk some more about her dead mom and her sad, sad upbringing.  She can whine some more about how mean Jen is being to her and how she's so misunderstood.  If it was really about Jennifer, let the people who were with Jennifer the last time confront her and tell Jack.

And Gwen will forever just need to STFU when it comes to Jack and his family.  Jack needs to know?  This isn't who Jennifer is?  Oh, really Gwen?  Like you seriously GAF.  He didn't need to know about all the nasty things you were doing to him and his family behind his back though.  It was okay for him not to know you were poisoning Abigail.  YOU certainly have NEVER been upfront with him about anything until you had to be, but Jennifer has to tell right now? NOW you want to come clean when it suits you and you can score points with Daddy?  Fuck off.  How convenient that Abigail is no longer around and JJ is offscreen, she wants to be the good daughter and play nice.  They ship both of Jennifer Rose Horton's kids are off-screen but this nasty retcon gets to waltz around the Horton house like it's no big deal.  The absolute gall.  Good for Jennifer not buying her fake sympathy act and kicking her out.  She should have never been allowed to step foot in that house.   

Gwen would do herself a lot of good to just stay away.  Stop trying to insert herself in things that don't involve her.  Call Jack to meet you somewhere.  You are his family.  No one else's.  It has been made clear to her more than once that he's the only one in that family who wants to deal with her.  Leave Jennifer and the rest of them the f- alone unless they call for you.  But, no.  She just has to keep showing up with her unwanted condolences and fake concern.  No one but stupid Jack wants or is buying it.

[Artsda]

So Clyde did it to get back at EJ? Is that his motivation? This makes no sense.  Sonny I get, to save himself and frame Leo. 

[4evaQuez]

Nicole's dress reminded me of Mystique from the X-Men movies. But not full Mystique, but Mystique when she's mid-morph. 

I liked the look Jada gave Nicole after Jada kissed Eric. The look was a little devious. I like that Jada can hold her own.

Isn't this the second time Clyde has stabbed Sonny? Does no one remember the first time, or is that one of those the audience knows but the characters never discovered moments? This was years ago, and I didn't like FS's Sonny, so I genuinely can't remember.

Nancy feels like a giddy five-year-old playing house. Chloe often comes off like Nancy's parent.

I wish we could have seen more of Clyde. This revelation just feels lackluster. I actually liked the antagonistic scenes he had with Craig and Will. I wonder if Chad is going to shoot Clyde at the wedding.

I was liking Rafe as a detective, but his so quickly believing Craig stabbed Abby ruined that.

[DisneyBoy]

18 hours ago, Ral80 said:

This story is on par with Adrienne's and Laura's deaths, it wasn't warranted or welcomed.

Cripes. Seeing that typed out drives home the extent of the pattern here. Ron has really knocked off some big characters in shitty ways: Adrienne, Laura, Abigail...

Doesn't Corday think this writing sucks? I mean...he's seen better writing....he should know!

...if it ends up being Clyde that killed Abigail I'll be happy. He's awful and a misogynist. He was obsessed with Ben getting a happily ever after with her back when they were engaged.

It kinda tracks.

Edited September 23, 2022 by DisneyBoy

[Peanut6711]

4 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Doesn't Corday think this writing sucks? I mean...he's seen better writing....he should know!

I'm starting to think NBC saw what they'd filmed for September, shook their heads, and went, "Oh yeah, this is totally moving to Peacock."

[Sidney]

Boy, the writers sure did numbers on the Westley's. First Craig, now Nancy. And both went into these relationships with their eyes wide open.

Character destruction at its finest. Ron's specialty. 

[SouthernChick]

I’m so tired of Nicole and her jealousy. I was looking forward to Eric and Jada, but I guess Nicole has to mess it up.

[DisneyBoy]

It would have been better to give us a few months of Nic and Rafe's DOA marriage falling apart and Eric and Jada dating/not being sure...and then stroking the Ericole fires.

....I say that and yet, as far as I'm concerned they should have never divorced. We should be seeing them live as a married couple.

[RunningMarket]

Because of the swap to a new network in Canada, resulting in a new timeslot, I haven't been watching. However, I was spoiled that today they would reveal Abigail's killer, so I tuned it while working from home.

... that was it?

Sorry gang, going back to not watching again. (I am however, always checking in to the convo here!)

[RedElf]

Is Nicole wearing a snakeskin dress?

Why is Sonny in such distress today, when he practically came out of the bed to go after Alex yesterday?

3 minutes ago, RunningMarket said:

Because of the swap to a new network in Canada, resulting in a new timeslot, I haven't been watching. However, I was spoiled that today they would reveal Abigail's killer, so I tuned it while working from home.

... that was it?

Sorry gang, going back to not watching again. (I am however, always checking in to the convo here!)

They showed a flashback of Clyde holding a knife in Sonny's office yesterday.

[brisbydog]

2 hours ago, Sidney said:

Boy, the writers sure did numbers on the Westley's. First Craig, now Nancy. And both went into these relationships with their eyes wide open.

Character destruction at its finest. Ron's specialty. 

Can they just get back together? Craig realizes he loves Nancy and they have a platonic marriage? Or he's bi. Whatever. I loved them together 

[Frozendiva]

I did like Nicole and Eric being honest with each other. Jada will be a handful for her as she doesn't take Nikki's crap. The 'fake' job may really be a real one with all of Kristen's flakiness and HR failures. Nicole is married to someone else and she shouldn't have more than a general interest in her ex's life. He can choose to spend time with anyone he likes.

Marlena's hypnosis business is suffering with the Three Amigos trying to crime-solve alone. A few Salem Brain cells have fallen their way.

Jada did her homework in looking at the surveillance video. None of the Salem PD's IT folks noticed the timestamp editing?

Craig, why do you want to attend your ex-wife's wedding? It does feel a bit rushed, and the question is 'why'? Your assistant has to send the Salem PD your calendar? Can't you just show your phone? Or email the assistant to see where you were on X date?

[Swartz]

Was the actress who plays Nancy always this bad of an actress?    She's even a bigger fool if she takes Craig back. 

CM and MA have zero chemistry. When Jack was hugging her yesterday he gave her no warmth.  He was so stiff. It's like they are both uncomfortable with each other.   I remember loving Dixie but I pretty much hate CM as Jennifer

Marlena is all made up in her hospital bed.   How many times has Ron done this with Marlena and John yet I'm supposed to be sad this time?  Nah.  

Kayla is usually the one taken care of Steve so I think this is a good switch for them. 

I love Jada and Stephanie already.  I wish the show would write them as friends. After all their fathers were best friends.  Give us a break from their love lives and let them hang out 

[boes]

51 minutes ago, Swartz said:

Was the actress who plays Nancy always this bad of an actress?    She's even a bigger fool if she takes Craig back. 

I've got coat hangers who have more sense than Nancy Wesley.  Maybe next she can fall in love and marry a bowl of chowder from the Brady Pub.

The Westons have been such a boon to Salem, haven't they?  Between serial killer Ollie, all purpose EVUL of da evulest, Clyde Kadiddlehopper and dear departed nutjob Jordan, the town has been blessed by their presence.

And yet not one of them bothered to knock off Rafe or Kristen.  

Wankers.

[JBC344]

11 hours ago, Lucas Rowan said:

I don't get why Craig didn't simply say that he was still in New York at the time of Sonny's attack.  Easy verifiable with phone records.

He did. He mentioned that he travels between hospitals and clinics so off the top of his head he couldn't give Rafe a definitive name. He would have to check his schedule to confirm.  

[tribeca]

I confess when they first said the clue was the smell of vanilla I thought it was someone who bakes.   

[boes]

8 hours ago, tribeca said:

I confess when they first said the clue was the smell of vanilla I thought it was someone who bakes.   

Me too.  If that was the defining clue in Salem, I'd be hung, drawn, quartered and frosted by now.

[brisbydog]

14 hours ago, Lucas Rowan said:

But with phone records being checked, Rafe would know that whatever hospital Craig was visiting at the time, it wouldn't matter so long as his phone pinged off a cell tower in the NYC area.  It would show that he was there and nowhere near Salem.

You are assuming Rafe is good at his job though

[brisbydog]

15 minutes ago, Lucas Rowan said:

He's been better since Jada arrived, at least.

That is cause Jada is actually doing something other than getting a suspect list from whoever she last spoke to.  OH Leo says Craig did it that's my next prime suspect says Rafe

[DaphneCat]

I've finally realized why I don't like this iteration of Nancy - it's because she's so damn weepy all of the time.  If Bonnie and Justin had tried to tell the old Nancy that the man she was about to marry was suspected of stabbing someone AND killing someone else, she would have either given them what's what or gone off to kill Clyde herself.  Instead she just cried while Justin told her about Clyde and half-heartedly insisted he couldn't have done it.  Combine that with the fact that she's just so pathetically NEEDY - especially with Clyde that it just doesn't seem like it's actually Nancy.

[SouthernChick]

I felt bad for Nancy today. But I’m SO glad Clyde has been caught. He’s been a creep from the beginning and I never bought Nancy’s desperation over being with him.

[RedElf]

I like Craig's blue suit and the matching tie.

Why does everybody keep calling Clyde by his full name?

Smartass Clyde sure turns into a weasel when there's a gun at his head.

Does Nancy not have a cell phone?

[Artsda]

Why is Abigail not in the Dimera crypt? Is that for blood Dimeras only? No spouses? 

Clyde thought Abby was Belle? He stabbed her repeatedly, he would have known it was not Belle.  Plus that was Chabbys bedroom with their photos all over. 

Chad just shoot. 

I'm actually disappointed Ben isn't here for the aftermath of this.  However I think if Ciara and Ben were still on the show they may not have written Clyde out like this.

[norcalgal]

48 minutes ago, Artsda said: 

Clyde thought Abby was Belle? He stabbed her repeatedly, he would have known it was not Belle.  Plus that was Chabbys bedroom with their photos all over. 

WRT the bolded, this!!!  Show is still stupid so I will continue to be on hiatus. 
But can anyone please fill me in on why Clyde wanted to kill Belle?  Thanks 

[BuckeyeLou]

Nancy's wedding outfit made her look like one of the "Golden Girls" :)  The Peacocks on the robe/shawl was a not so subtle nod to the Peacock Streaming service. 

[Ral80]

37 minutes ago, norcalgal said:

WRT the bolded, this!!!  Show is still stupid so I will continue to be on hiatus. 
But can anyone please fill me in on why Clyde wanted to kill Belle?  Thanks 

From what I can remember. . .when EJ was in jail with Clyde as his cellmate, EJ remembered what Clyde did to him. During that confrontation, Clyde said he was going to get back at EJ. Clyde's revenge was to attack/kill Belle, EJ's mistress who he wanted to drop like a hot potato when Sami returned. (My recap might be off, so please correct and add.)

Somehow, Clyde found his way into Abigail's room and accidentally killed her. 

Yeah, the writers needed to come up with something, this was it. Chalk this up to another accidental death in Salem, i.e., Laura Horton and Adrienne Kiriakis.

[Frozendiva]

I thought I heard Clyde or someone say Bill and didn't realize it was Belle. This reveal really did not make any sense. Guess they had the idea to kill Abigail and just came up with.... this.

Chad, just shoot, or drag him to the cop shop.

Guess Bonnie didn't have many clothing choices available for Nancy.

Craig looked good in his blue suit and tie.

Rafe and Jada actually make decent partners.

[DanaMB]

3 hours ago, Artsda said:

I'm actually disappointed Ben isn't here for the aftermath of this. 

I found myself wondering today if they would have Ben appear since the actor is still on the show. 

[boes]

1 hour ago, DanaMB said:

I found myself wondering today if they would have Ben appear since the actor is still on the show. 

I'd love to hear Ben berate his father for being a horrible man and unconscionable killer and be interrupted by a call from the midwife's family, or maybe a text from Eve Donovan.  And Ciara doing the same while telling everyone else that Ben is REFORMED, dammit!  Quit blaming him for his crimes!!  How DARE Clyde ruin Ben's good name!

If only the news of Clyde's arrest was immediately followed by news that the "Cin" was lost at sea, after a three hour tour, a three hour tour.  The weather started getting rough, the tiny ship was tossed.

Sad faces all around at the last of Westons.

Oh yeah, Bonnie and Nancy wailing in unison.  All that was needed was for Julie to chime in and the HellMouth would have opened.

We lost Adrienne for THAT?

Edited September 27, 2022 by boes

[4evaQuez]

Even though a lot of things happened in today's episode to move plot and drama along, I still find myself mostly bored. I felt liked I crawled to the end.

1. I'm so tired of Chad's screaming/yelling.

2.I know a lot of people have said this and have said this for years, but I don't understand killing Adrienne off to replace her with this odd Bonnie/Adrienne amalgamation. Before Nancy, her strongest ties on canvas was literally Adrienne's ties to canvas.

3. I thought the Clyde/Abby scenes made literally no sense. MM's Abby is a petite woman and JR's Clyde is a hulking man. He even has height on Chad who's at least 6'. I'm supposed to believe she's in her house, presumably alone, - I'm never sure when the Dimera house has it's plot driven security or not - and she sees Clyde Weston. Instead of immediately running for her life since she knows for a fact that Clyde is a violent psychopath, she questions him, antagonizes him, and then informs him she's calling the cops. She doesn't even lock and barricade herself in her room. She just leaves the door wide open and shows absolutely no fear when he enters her room, closes the door, waltzes past her, grabs a knife, and starts yelling years of pent up anger and frustration. He even tells her he had EJ shot and he's coming after EJ's "Lady Lawyer," and she still just calmly tells him he'll never get away with hurting her. I've long had an issue with MM's mostly bored and detached interpretation of the Abby character, and I can't say I'm sad to see her go.

4. On the old All My Children board, people would make fun of CM (Dixie/recast Jennifer Horton) because she had a propensity to rapidly blink in dramatic scenes. That's all I could focus on in her scenes with "Abby." I could not muster any emotions for MM's Abby who I'm happy is no longer on screen long term, and CM's Jennifer. The acting was simply not good. I have no connection to the relationship between this Jennifer/Abby, and as hard as I tried this Jennifer just isn't "my Jennifer." I seriously hope the conclusion of this Abby murder mystery means CM's Jennifer will return to Boston or wherever and not return to Salem.

4. I missed the first few seconds of the Leo/Gwen conversation, so could someone please tell me how she knew so quickly about Clyde. The end of the show seems to be hinting at Jennifer running Gwen over. Again, the Jenn/Gwen dynamic could be so much better if the show explored it. I mean we still don't really know what happened in that room with Laura/Gwen. I'm certain this will be another blink and you miss it and won't care moment between Gwen/Jennifer/Jack.

5. I'm not sure if the show is trying to make Shawn/Belle/EJ a thing, but I sure hope they are not. Like fetch, they'll just never be a thing.

[RedElf]

14 hours ago, BuckeyeLou said:

Nancy's wedding outfit made her look like one of the "Golden Girls" :)  The Peacocks on the robe/shawl was a not so subtle nod to the Peacock Streaming service. 

This was filmed at least four months prior to the decision to move to Peacock.