S12.E14: Shameless Not Ruthless

[jewel21]

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Dorit throws a charity dinner to benefit the homeless, but there is little goodwill between Lisa and Sutton; when Lisa's anger turns to tears, her friends rally to her side in her time of need; Crystal opens up about her health issues.

Airdate: 08/10/2022

[Hiyo]

“when Lisa's anger turns to tears, her friends rally to her side in her time of need”

Her time of…need? So much what the fuckery i that sentance…

[Surrealist]

16 hours ago, jewel21 said:

Dorit throws a charity dinner to benefit the homeless.

Given the rumors about Dorit and PK's finances, is she throwing this charity dinner for them?

[RoseAllDay]

On 8/6/2022 at 12:47 PM, jewel21 said:

Airdate: 08/10/2022

My cable synopsis says, “Crystal faces questions from the group after she discusses her health.”

Given that this only became a hot topic after Dorit flapped her gums last week, I hope Crystal learns the lesson that nothing will be kept in confidence with this group. I’m interested to see how this plays out. Crystal has shared details, but only those she feels comfortable with, probably. I still feel Dorit was wrong to talk about this the way she did.

The summary also says, “Diana and Asher plan for a peaceful future in the wake of a drama-filled year.” Hmm. Dare I hope that they will slither off into the sunset and we won’t have to deal with them ever again? 

“Lisa’s time of need.” Spare me. Lisa, quit with the feud with Sutton that YOU LOST and get grief counseling, already.
 

[CrinkleCutCat]

Lisa’s ‘time of need’ seems to switch on and off. I know, I know: grief hits us all differently… but I believe she’s using her grief when it suits her as a form of manipulation (and storyline).

[Surrealist]

10 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

My cable synopsis says, “Crystal faces questions from the group after she discusses her health.”

Given that this only became a hot topic after Dorit flapped her gums last week, I hope Crystal learns the lesson that nothing will be kept in confidence with this group. I’m interested to see how this plays out. Crystal has shared details, but only those she feels comfortable with, probably. I still feel Dorit was wrong to talk about this the way she did.

The summary also says, “Diana and Asher plan for a peaceful future in the wake of a drama-filled year.” Hmm. Dare I hope that they will slither off into the sunset and we won’t have to deal with them ever again? 

“Lisa’s time of need.” Spare me. Lisa, quit with the feud with Sutton that YOU LOST and get grief counseling, already.
 

For whatever reason, an eating disorder storyline hits worse than one about a cast member's alcoholism or drug abuse. Not that those are good things either, but so far, the way the other ladies (minus Sutton) are talking about eating disorders (and Kyle making Crystal's story about her) feels very wrong. Almost as if an eating disorder isn't as big a deal as drug abuse and alcoholism, and Crystal can easily turn it on and off whenever she feels like it. 

Just gross, really.

Edited August 9, 2022 by Surrealist

[Salacious Kitty]

I think they feel it's NBD because most of them have had or currently have at minimum disordered eating and are "just fine." LMAO at Rinna claiming she eats bread. Her pants were on fire with that whopper.

[RoseAllDay]

57 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

For whatever reason, an eating disorder storyline hits worse than one about a cast member's alcoholism or drug abuse. Not that those are good things either, but so far, the way the other ladies (minus Sutton) are talking about eating disorders (and Kyle making Crystal's story about her) feels very wrong. Almost as if an eating disorder isn't as big a deal as drug abuse and alcoholism, and Crystal can easily turn it on and off whenever she feels like it. 

Just gross, really.

They’ll all say they’re coming from a place of “deep concern” for Crystal’s health. It will most likely be another ambush. I’m already feeling sorry for Crystal. 

Can’t trust these shrews. At all. This is why I found Erika’s talk of purging and laxatives, and her comment on chicken nuggets so offensive — treating EDs as a joke, drunk or not. But, hey, Bravo — keep flashing that ED hotline number at show’s end…

[RealHousewife]

1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

For whatever reason, an eating disorder storyline hits worse than one about a cast member's alcoholism or drug abuse. Not that those are good things either, but so far, the way the other ladies (minus Sutton) are talking about eating disorders (and Kyle making Crystal's story about her) feels very wrong. Almost as if an eating disorder isn't as big a deal as drug abuse and alcoholism, and Crystal can easily turn it on and off whenever she feels like it. 

Just gross, really.

Exactly. It breaks my heart for Crystal. She's been very open about having an ED. I'm sure she expected the cast to have comments/questions, but didn't predict them to be so insensitive. Even from this bunch, I would have expected more. Dealing with an eating disorder is painful. I've spoken about my own on here many times, but I've only told a few people IRL about it because all these years later, the topic still gets me emotional. They were among the most miserable years of my life. What Crystal really needs is loving support. I still remember how hurt she was when she said her feelings were irrelevant to the group. 

1 minute ago, RoseAllDay said:

They’ll all say they’re coming from a place of “deep concern” for Crystal’s health. It will most likely be another ambush. I’m already feeling sorry for Crystal. 

Can’t trust these shrews. At all. This is why I found Erika’s talk of purging and laxatives, and her comment on chicken nuggets so offensive — treating EDs as a joke, drunk or not. But, hey, Bravo — keep flashing that ED hotline number at show’s end…

The comment about laxatives was bad enough, but I cut Erika slack for that because I thought it sounded like she dealt with disordered eating of her own and thought she was being helpful in a misguided way. But then the chicken nuggets comment was literally treating her ED as a joke. If it only happened because she was drunk, once again, Erika needs to stop drinking. 

I hope Crystal has a lot of genuine support in her life. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

This is upsetting.  I think they believe if Crystal posted on Instagram about her struggle, she has given them permission to discuss it in any way they want. Which is egregious and extremely presumptuous. The hypocrisy never fails to astound me. 

[Surrealist]

5 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

It will most likely be another ambush. 

This is exactly what I think will happen.

[RoseAllDay]

6 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Exactly. It breaks my heart for Crystal. She's been very open about having an ED. I'm sure she expected the cast to have comments/questions, but didn't predict them to be so insensitive. Even from this bunch, I would have expected more. Dealing with an eating disorder is painful. I've spoken about my own on here many times, but I've only told a few people IRL about it because all these years later, the topic still gets me emotional. They were among the most miserable years of my life. What Crystal really needs is loving support. I still remember how hurt she was when she said her feelings were irrelevant to the group. 

The comment about laxatives was bad enough, but I cut Erika slack for that because I thought it sounded like she dealt with disordered eating of her own and thought she was being helpful in a misguided way. But then the chicken nuggets comment was literally treating her ED as a joke. If it only happened because she was drunk, once again, Erika needs to stop drinking. 

I hope Crystal has a lot of genuine support in her life. 

It’s not in her genetic makeup to be helpful, or kind, or generous, or supportive, or…just because Crystal seemed to laugh it off does not mean that it didn’t hurt. Here’s hoping Crystal stands her ground. This show, though, always shows you what NOT to do when somebody else in your life is struggling. 

[65mickey]

What I'm waiting for is the scene that Bravo teased us with Erika screaming at Crystal "You are on the side of the victims because you think it's cool." This better not be one of those teasers that they throw out at the beginning of a season and then leave it out for some strange reason. But nothing that Bravo does shocks me when it comes to protecting the worst of the worst on these shows. 

[pasdetrois]

On 8/9/2022 at 6:17 AM, Surrealist said:

This is exactly what I think will happen.

Especially since Bethanny and Carole pulled this nonsense with Jules. They were relentless in trying to hound her to reveal it and discuss it. There was no pretense of concern - it was actually vicious competitiveness. Jules was "skinniest" so they had to take her down.

I pretty much stopped watching RHoNY after that nastiness.

Edited August 11, 2022 by pasdetrois

[charliesan]

22 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Lisa’s ‘time of need’ seems to switch on and off. I know, I know: grief hits us all differently… but I believe she’s using her grief when it suits her as a form of manipulation (and storyline).

Also, I don't mean to be mean and correct me if I'm wrong but, I seem to remember in Lisa's first season she said she didn't visit her parents that often, I even think it was her daughters' first trip to see Lois and both of them were already teens. It seemed to me that she since Lois was pretty much well liked by the fans that Lisa started to be more involved with her family AFTER she made it on the show. I bet she loved Lois and her dad a lot but her "grief" seems more like a storyline and an excuse rather than something she's legitimately feeling. Say what you want about Teresa but her relationship with her parents seemed 100% more genuine and you can clearly see there was a lot of love involved. 

Long story short: I don't buy it Rinna. 

[QQQQ]

On 8/9/2022 at 3:43 PM, charliesan said:

Also, I don't mean to be mean and correct me if I'm wrong but, I seem to remember in Lisa's first season she said she didn't visit her parents that often, I even think it was her daughters' first trip to see Lois and both of them were already teens.

I just rewatched that episode (S5E6 Medford 90210). Rinna talks about not feeling like she belonged in Medford, her daughters point out different fast food restaurants and ask if there are a lot of chub chubs. Lisa says, "I try to get back to Medford about once a year with the girls, and now more often because of my parents" (there's then discussion of her parents' age and failing health).

I'm not a fan of Rinna, but I think it's important to put the rumor to rest that she admitted to rarely visiting.

Edited August 11, 2022 by QQQQ

[Straycat80]

Yeah PK it’s your teeth’s fault your house got robbed and you got a DUI. These people are so dumb. 🙄

[eleanorofaquitaine]

This charity that Dorit sounds like it has a great mission but the name sounds like a charity that would be in a teen rom com or something. 

[RoseAllDay]

2 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Yeah PK it’s your teeth’s fault your house got robbed and you got a DUI. These people are so dumb. 🙄

But he does have nice-looking teeth now.

[RoseAllDay]

Crystal, just tell them to mind their own damn business. Especially since you see them for who they really are.

[Straycat80]

3 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

But he does have nice-looking teeth now.

Yes he does. They are lucky they can afford that. 

[Chicklet]

Oh no I turn in just in time for Asher's new song and what is with that stupid hat?

[Straycat80]

I think one of the reasons Diana wanted to be on this show was to promote Asher’s singing career. 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

"He's a child." Yeah, that's a great way to talk about your partner, Diana.

[RoseAllDay]

1 minute ago, Straycat80 said:

I think one of the reasons Diana wanted to be on this show was to promote Asher’s singing career. 

Such as it is. Poor man’s Richard Marx.

[Chicklet]

Kyle is a maroon. I have the same issue with hypermobility and have learned that you never push your range of motion because  it causes so many problems down the road. If she was smart.....well yea this is Kyle, but if she was smart she would stop.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Like Erika, Garcelle has never pretended to be your great friend or anything. 

[goofygirl]

On 8/9/2022 at 3:43 PM, charliesan said:

Also, I don't mean to be mean and correct me if I'm wrong but, I seem to remember in Lisa's first season she said she didn't visit her parents that often, I even think it was her daughters' first trip to see Lois and both of them were already teens. It seemed to me that she since Lois was pretty much well liked by the fans that Lisa started to be more involved with her family AFTER she made it on the show. I bet she loved Lois and her dad a lot but her "grief" seems more like a storyline and an excuse rather than something she's legitimately feeling. Say what you want about Teresa but her relationship with her parents seemed 100% more genuine and you can clearly see there was a lot of love involved. 

Long story short: I don't buy it Rinna. 

Actually, NOBODY BUYS IT!!

[RoseAllDay]

I confess, I kinda had the same reaction as Kyle when I first heard of Homeless Not Toothless. Yes, health care, and access to it, is a huge concern in the homeless community. That name, though. But if it raises money, I guess I can’t knock it that much.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Black and gold theme - I'd come in a Boston Bruins jersey.

ETA: Kathy and her revolving door of friends who accompany her to these things never fail to crack me up.

Edited August 11, 2022 by eleanorofaquitaine

[TexasGal]

“You just put the lights back on?”  No Dorit.  It was a miracle.  Bec of your Virgin Mary confessional look.

[WaltersHair]

Black and gold theme? Cavities and gold fillings?

[goofygirl]

WHO IS THE SURPRISE GUEST?????

My guess: Boy George.  That seems to be the ONLY big name person PK knows!  

Unless it's Lisa VanderPump!  But no.... she'd never do it.

[FlyingEgret]

Haha Kathy: I love the font that I can't read

[SassyCat]

Dorit looks absolutely Ravishing tonight. Lisa’s makeup looked very heavy while they were applying it. 

[RoseAllDay]

Rinna and Erika…what an evil pair. 

1 minute ago, goofygirl said:

WHO IS THE SURPRISE GUEST?????

My guess: Boy George.  That seems to be the ONLY big name person PK knows!  

Unless it's Lisa VanderPump!  But no.... she'd never do it.

My money is on Asher.

[Chicklet]

Diana's support of her SO is just heartwarming -"he's doing a virtual something something concert something". Twu luve.

[goofygirl]

When's the sadness and grief gonna hit Rinna??  Just about the time somebody calls her out on her shit!

[njbchlover]

17 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Oh no I turn in just in time for Asher's new song and what is with that stupid hat?

Why, oh why, do these people all wear hats indoors?  I mean, I don't know anyone who does that!  

16 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I think one of the reasons Diana wanted to be on this show was to promote Asher’s singing career. 

Yup....

15 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

"He's a child." Yeah, that's a great way to talk about your partner, Diana.

Proud mama - moved to Beverly Hills, got on the RHOBH, all to advance her boytoy's career.

13 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said:

Such as it is. Poor man’s Richard Marx.

So, instead of the requisite song release from a Housewife, we now have to deal with a song release from a "husband".  

[Mr. Miner]

GOODBYE DWIGHT!!!

[goofygirl]

PK bought Mo a dang gold chotski??  Or is it a WATCH??

[QQQQ]

37 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

This charity that Dorit sounds like it has a great mission but the name sounds like a charity that would be in a teen rom com or something. 

At least they didn't go with Roofless Not Toothless.

Kathy asking for clarification on the name and the smirks from the HWs just gave me life.

The two reps from the charity reminded me of so many teen movies. Please don't treat them like Carrie, Martha Dumptruck, or Josie Grossie!

Edited August 11, 2022 by QQQQ

[njbchlover]

I seriously don't know who's cackle is worse - Erika's or Rinna's.  I only know that I feel like I start seeing cracks in my TV screen when it's happening!  

[Chicklet]

Oh goodie it looks like Rinna screams at Sutton again. It is apparently the Rinna Show every freaking episode. Someone needs to tranqulize this woman.

[RoseAllDay]

Was that PK’s and Mauricio’s version of Marry, Shag, Kill?

Mission accomplished, Erika, with those shoes. They sure got PK’s attention, which explains Dorit’s nervous side-eye.

[FlyingEgret]

Why does Rinna insist on reminding us what a low class, low budget grifting leech she is???

[RoseAllDay]

2 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Oh goodie it looks like Rinna screams at Sutton again. It is apparently the Rinna Show every freaking episode. Someone needs to tranqulize this woman.

Hey! She’s GRIEVING.

[njbchlover]

6 minutes ago, goofygirl said:

PK bought Mo a dang gold chotski??  Or is it a WATCH??

Isn't it a belt buckle??  I feel like that was a thank you gift to Mauricio for something - like, maybe Mauricio helped PK out of a little jam involving a potential DUI??  Just speculating, here!  

[Straycat80]

Erika and Rinna are acting like they’re drunk already. Or else they are revving up their attention getting behavior. 

[goofygirl]

Shut the fuck up Diana.  Having the "charity" remove "the wisdom teeth" in Bosnia or wherever is not the SAME THING.  Just shut up.

And Fucking Lisa Rinna wanting ANOTHER apology for HARRY HAMLIN!!!  Now she's screaming at Sutton at the dinner table.

Just one question: WHY does Sutton need to apologize to the Snowflake??  She paid for that table they sat at.  Didn't cost them a red cent! 

Rinna: get over yourself already.  We all know you SUCK!

Edited August 11, 2022 by goofygirl