S05.E09 : Bad Romance

[greekmom]

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Jasmine explodes over Gino's texts to his ex; Hamza has some bad news for Memphis; Ben attempts to track down Mahogany; Alina hopes Caleb can move past her secret; Mike considers popping the question to Ximena. 

Airdates: TLC First Look: 4/2/22; Full Episode TLC: 6/2/22; Full Episode Discovery Plus: 6/2/22

[Mrs. Hanson]

6 hours ago, greekmom said:

Airdates: TLC First Look: 4/2/22; Full Episode TLC: 6/2/22; Full Episode Discovery Plus: 6/2/22

Ben continues to stalk Mahogany.

[Gobi]

23 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Ben continues to stalk Mahogany.

Mahogany stalk; there’s a joke in there, somewhere.

[Mrs. Hanson]

12 minutes ago, Gobi said:

Mahogany stalk; there’s a joke in there, somewhere.

I think I had Mahogany stalk with my chicken last night.  Not bad.  Threw some salt and pepper and ate that dinner like it was my job.

[hookedontv]

2 hours ago, Gobi said:

Mahogany stalk; there’s a joke in there, somewhere.

Ha ha. The whole situation (said in Dr. Now's voice, yes, I'm mashing up my "reality" shows) is a joke. 

[Frozendiva]

Ximena seems a bit overdressed for the casual dinner with Mike and her family. Does she have any idea of the real situation with him? Does she know about his dad and gramps? That she will be looking after two kids and three adults? At least if the restaurant has a view, maybe not put her where she can't see anything. Being proposed to in front of family and being pressured for an answer? Will her kids come with her or will the parents have to look after them for a while?

Ah, Ben, you catfish. Mahogany may not have a vehicle to get to Lima, she may have to take the bus or get a ride from someone. And she told you not to come. And now you are chatting to your friend, who is being reasonable with you and ensuring that you may be a catfish and that Mahogany may not exist. Nice little story. Am sure she appreciated that.

So Memphis and Hamza had much better sexy times at the hotel. The breakfast looked huge. Still too much caveman 'me' speak. One probably does not bring up a pre-nush with a guy whose culture most likely does not have them. Suuuuuure, he wants her money. And the opportunities she can bring for him and his family.

 

[magemaud]

So exactly what is the dress code for this shindig? 

[CruiseDiva]

22 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Ximena seems a bit overdressed for the casual dinner with Mike and her family.

With the heavy makeup and that too short, too tight, too shiny dress that showed off her cleavage and tacky tats, she looked like a very low rent hooker. She could have at least washed and curled her greasy, stringy hair. I'm sorry if I'm being too blunt, but she just looks so cheap. Yet her father was concerned about Mike's "intentions" when he's probably the only decent man she's ever known.

[greekmom]

9 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

 Will her kids come with her or will the parents have to look after them for a while?

My cousin met online a woman from Russian (i think, or it was Ukraine?) and she had 2 kids. He petitioned her over first then her 2 kids came over a couple of years after the wedding.  Honestly he's really like a Mike and this was the only way he was going to marry if you know what I mean.  I am shocked it's lasted (while my marriage did not). 

Ben is an idiot. He needs therapy and tons of it as well as staying off the internet in finding a girl.

Memphis has to stop the caveman talk. Period.  Me cannot watch this no more. Me want to smash tv.  Did you all see how she turned her head away when he went in for a morning kiss in bed? Guess Hamza has some wicked morning breath.

Super shocked that Alina and Caleb are being shown in the commercial for this week's episode. I thought TLC said they won't be in future episodes.  Maybe they couldn't edit them out or maybe TLC just can't keep their word. *shrugs*

 

[Welshman in Ca]

10 hours ago, magemaud said:

So exactly what is the dress code for this shindig? 

 

Shoes & dress by house of eleven hoes.

[magemaud]

What grade would you give Ben’s “Runaway Train” creative writing assignment? 

[Colfrmb]

Ben should have arranged to meet someplace during the day.  Maybe Mahog’s has a curfew.  Plus it would feel safer for the female.  

[magemaud]

Ben expected a young woman to drive two hours to pick up a stranger at the airport AT NIGHT and then he's devastated that she didn't show up? Because her father is influencing her? (I'm sure my father would have had the same reaction!) I wonder how he would feel if someone did that to his daughter? 

Edited February 7, 2022 by magemaud

[Breedom]

13 hours ago, CruiseDiva said:

With the heavy makeup and that too short, too tight, too shiny dress that showed off her cleavage and tacky tats, she looked like a very low rent hooker.

My heart is softening a bit for X. I can see she really loves Mike and is trying to make it work. Is there a chance that she's all dressed up to impress Mike? I hadn't thought of that before now. Doubtful Mike would really notice. Has Mike taken her anywhere that's somewhat nice or has she had a chance to really dress up? I doubt she's had the opportunity and she thought this might be her chance. It's kind of sweet.

Mike should have popped the question privately. Why add the stress of her entire family being there in case the answer is no? Has he thought this out? Is he so convinced that X will accept his proposal and there would be no chance of awkwardness or humiliation? Mike doesn't seem to think things through. Or he has an excessive amount of courage and confidence. I think she'll say yes though. And we still await the bombshell of her becoming a caretaker in the US.

[nutella fitzgerald]

4 hours ago, magemaud said:

Ben expected a young woman to drive two hours to pick up a stranger at the airport AT NIGHT and then he's devastated that she didn't show up? Because her father is influencing her? I wonder how he would feel if someone did that to his daughter? 

“Daughter? What daughter?” — Ben’s answer to this question, probably

This show makes me seriously consider writing to POTUS to suggest adding a Secretary of Public Relations to the Cabinet because this show really isn’t doing much for how we look as a nation.

[1011101010001]

22 hours ago, magemaud said:

What grade would you give Ben’s “Runaway Train” creative writing assignment? 

I think his inspiration was wanting to put his train in her tunnel.

[Baltimore Betty]

23 hours ago, magemaud said:

What grade would you give Ben’s “Runaway Train” creative writing assignment? 

I truly thought he was going to read the lyrics to Soul Asylum's "Runaway Train," song.

[magemaud]

10 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I truly thought he was going to read the lyrics to Soul Asylum's "Runaway Train," song.

I forget, have we seen him singing and playing the guitar? 

[Kid]

OK. I understand the whole betrayal thing with sending the picture to the ex.  But, Jasmine is basically parading around in a bathing suit with her ass hanging out and most of her boobs all around the resort and on national television. So she obviously is not concerned about strangers seeing her body.

[Welshman in Ca]

1 minute ago, Kid said:

OK. I understand the whole betrayal thing with sending the picture to the ex.  But, Jasmine is basically parading around in a bathing suit with her ass hanging out and most of her boobs all around the resort and on national television. So she obviously is not concerned about strangers seeing her body.

That's her choice & only hers,  Gino sending a picture to his ex of his current girlfriend naked removes the her choice part.

[Kid]

Ben, Shut. Up.

[Mrs. Hanson]

Okay.  Gino, you are the biggest asshole on this show, ever.  It was straight up painful to see JazMEEEEEN in pain.  He denies it, then tried to sell it that they were not nudes.  Only her breasts were shown.  Oh Gino, GO AWAY.  You are 51, right?  The location of Jasmine while he texted was interesting, too.

My heart is softening for X, too.  She seemed really upset at his leaving.  

FF through a lot of Caleb and Alina as Elijah showed up and did not want to listen to his you better be good to me queen or I am coming after you even though she is a lying racist and I am a snarky two faced bitch as well."

No Jonny and Ella, no Soja Boy.  I miss T Slam.   I miss Badmus.

Hamza and Memphis Tenneessee.....Me need you to sign paper.  Me no marry you with no paper.  Me have no idea how to get attorney in country that doesn't even have prenups.  Me worried.  Me call foster sister and ignore her advice.   Me want cookie.   ME make big deal of staying at ex's house.  No touchy touch.  No sexy time.

Edited February 7, 2022 by Mrs. Hanson
Because dudes and nudes are not the same thing. At all.

[Sir RaiderDuck OMS]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Okay.  Gino, you are the biggest asshole on this show, ever.  It was straight up painful to see JazMEEEEEN in pain.  He denies it, then tried to sell it that they were not dudes.  Only her breasts were shown.  Oh Gino, GO AWAY.  You are 51, right?  The location of Jasmine while he texted was interesting, too.

I wanted to punch him when he said with a little half-smirk, "Yes, your breasts were showing, but that's not a nude." Of all the times to get cute with your language, that was NOT it. And now anyone watching the show knows what an asshole he is. Gino: If you're really and truly over your ex, that means YOU DON'T CARE WHAT THEY THINK.

[TipseyGirl]

4 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I truly thought he was going to read the lyrics to Soul Asylum's "Runaway Train," song.

Same!

 

[TipseyGirl]

So I watched the full episode on D+ this morning. Why are we getting the same scenes of Kahlib and Alina as last week? The night after the big reveal of Alina's ex, Elijah's departure and the Turkish bath. What the crap?!? (TM Kody Brown)

[JLaw]

Jasmine is batshit crazy but I can't believe Gino made me feel sorry for her.  He's such an asshat.

[Mrs. Hanson]

28 minutes ago, TipseyGirl said:

So I watched the full episode on D+ this morning. Why are we getting the same scenes of Kahlib and Alina as last week? The night after the big reveal of Alina's ex, Elijah's departure and the Turkish bath. What the crap?!? (TM Kody Brown)

Thank you!  I thought that was last week too.  I had Covid so I was like, wait...

I forgot to mention:  Is it bad to go to the gym and workout every day?  Allina, you seem to like his body, so you and your meanie BFF can cork it.

[Gobi]

4 hours ago, Welshman in Ca said:

That's her choice & only hers,  Gino sending a picture to his ex of his current girlfriend naked removes the her choice part.

Who does that, seriously? Why on earth would anyone send nudes of their current SO to an ex? If Jasmine wanted him to do it, I could somewhat understand that, but he didn’t even ask permission.

Truly one of the trashiest things ever done on 90DF, and that’s saying a lot.

Spoiler

If the couples thread is accurate, maybe most of his interactions with women have been with escorts/hookers/sugar babies, etc. which could explain his cluelessness.

 

[nutella fitzgerald]

5 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I truly thought he was going to read the lyrics to Soul Asylum's "Runaway Train," song.

I might watch him carrying a boom box playing that song while he goes around San Bartolo with his filtered picture of her, as if she’s one of the missing children from the music video. Extra points since I think some of them didn’t want to be found, either.

[bravofan27]

Gino takes the cake on being the most horrible person I've seen on this show. Worse than Jesse, worse than Jorge, worse than Colt.  

[Kid]

3 hours ago, JLaw said:

Jasmine is batshit crazy but I can't believe Gino made me feel sorry for her.  He's such an asshat.

Totally inappropriate what he did.  But I have a hard time feeling sorry for her.  Confront him, tell him what an asshole he is and leave.  But she is then abusive and that is NEVER ok.  Just like him sending the pictures was not ok.  

[JeanJean]

Wow, the Gino/Jasmine scenes (including previews) are painful. She has every right to be mad - now topless pictures of her are out in the world out of her control. But their scenes - especially the hat snatch preview are so hard to watch. My impulse is to call an abuse hotline to send someone over to separate them. I felt like there might be a murder - but I don't know which of them would murder the other first. 

Edited February 7, 2022 by JeanJean

[Katie111]

What was on the back of Gino’s head when when she pulled off the head?  It looked like a very strange tuft of dark hair. 

[CruiseDiva]

I almost felt sad for Caleb being put on the spot by Alina. It was rather presumptuous for her to expect a commitment of exclusivity when they live half a world away from one another and I don't think he'd told her he was in love with her. He did tell her he cared and, really, that's about all she could expect after being together for only a week. At the airport he did say he wanted to stay in touch, but I don't see a future for them. It seemed to me that her goal was to get back to the US and he was her passport to do so. I can't fault him for not wanting to commit to her since her actions in person were so aggressive, yet needy. I think she'd portrayed herself over the years as independent with the photoshoots and videos, but in person she was the opposite. I'm glad Caleb was honest with her. He could have led her on and then ghosted her, but he was painfully truthful. It will be interesting if they discuss them in Pillow Talk.

[monagatuna]

10 hours ago, Kid said:

OK. I understand the whole betrayal thing with sending the picture to the ex.  But, Jasmine is basically parading around in a bathing suit with her ass hanging out and most of her boobs all around the resort and on national television. So she obviously is not concerned about strangers seeing her body.

I willingly show body parts to my spouse and my doctor, for obviously different reasons, does that mean anyone should get to see them? Jasmine showed the same amount as an average gymnast. Doesn't mean she deserves to have her private photos, meant only for him, blasted out to strangers.

Did I see that he is from SD? Revenge porn is a very serious crime in CA, and he just admitted to it.

[Jeanne222]

10 hours ago, Kid said:

OK. I understand the whole betrayal thing with sending the picture to the ex.  But, Jasmine is basically parading around in a bathing suit with her ass hanging out and most of her boobs all around the resort and on national television. So she obviously is not concerned about strangers seeing her body.

Yes and the camera man was surely following those buns down the garden path!

[Adeejay]

I thought it unfair of Alina to put Caleb on the spot like that, especially since what she wants is asking a lot.  I know this sounds coldhearted but taking care of her seems to require a lot of hard work.  I feel for Alina because I believe she is going to have a hard time finding a man who is willing to make such a commitment.  

I find it interesting that after a night of passion, Hamza started having second thoughts about marrying Memphis.

I am starting to understand why Ben didn't appear on the show until episode 6.  His storyline is clearly DOA.  

[magemaud]

4 hours ago, Katie111 said:

 

What was on the back of Gino’s head when when she pulled off the head?  It looked like a very strange tuft of dark hair.

 

I have already deleted the screenshot, but I’m pretty sure it was patchy dark hair

[greekmom]

18 hours ago, Kid said:

OK. I understand the whole betrayal thing with sending the picture to the ex.  But, Jasmine is basically parading around in a bathing suit with her ass hanging out and most of her boobs all around the resort and on national television. So she obviously is not concerned about strangers seeing her body.

I think it was because NOT only did he send the photos but he was also texting the ex (FYI she goes by "Linzee Ryder") while Jasmine was napping and Gino was making fun of her temper as well. 

I don't feel too sorry for Jasmine because 

Spoiler

instead of blaming just Gino, she also lashed out at Linzee.

Anyone watch it on D+ can you comment on the difference between the D+ episode and TLC episode?  I heard this morning that the scenes on D+ were extended and there was more to it.

Not much to say on Ximena/Mike. I mean what was she going to say? No?  A yes was guaranteed unless she found someone else to pay the bills. Interesting that he left but he's going back - we've never seen that before.

No Kim begging for sex. She needed the week off to think of more excuses. No Ella -she's probably cosplaying with her dildo collection. 

Memphis and Hamza.  Will the guy just drop her?  The woman grates on my nerves with her voice, her caveman talk and crappy wigs and he's a lazy ass. 

Ben needs to go home and stop online searching for young Christian pussy.  

Edited February 7, 2022 by greekmom
forgot about the lazy eye dude

[anoninrva]

8 hours ago, CruiseDiva said:

I almost felt sad for Caleb being put on the spot by Alina. It was rather presumptuous for her to expect a commitment of exclusivity when they live half a world away from one another and I don't think he'd told her he was in love with her. He did tell her he cared and, really, that's about all she could expect after being together for only a week. At the airport he did say he wanted to stay in touch, but I don't see a future for them. It seemed to me that her goal was to get back to the US and he was her passport to do so. I can't fault him for not wanting to commit to her since her actions in person were so aggressive, yet needy. I think she'd portrayed herself over the years as independent with the photoshoots and videos, but in person she was the opposite. I'm glad Caleb was honest with her. He could have led her on and then ghosted her, but he was painfully truthful. It will be interesting if they discuss them in Pillow Talk.

I don't feel a lick of sympathy for Caleb after he presented his "disco stick".  He would have had a bit more to go with if he'd admitted upfront that he wasn't as physically attracted to her in person as he thought he would be, but going along with a sexual relationship despite his mixed feelings is not fair to Alina.  It's not like she was demanding a shotgun wedding.  Wanting to know she was more than just a bootycall is not unreasonable here.

[greekmom]

for anyone who wants to see Gino's head.

Please excuse the quality.

[Xena]

10 minutes ago, greekmom said:

for anyone who wants to see Gino's head.

Please excuse the quality.

I love that Meri & Janelle are looking on disapprovingly in the corner.   This is how monogomous couples act.  This would never happen in a polygamist household.

[Pepper Mostly]

On 2/5/2022 at 11:16 AM, magemaud said:

What grade would you give Ben’s “Runaway Train” creative writing assignment? 

N, for "Never put pen to paper again"

13 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

Gino takes the cake on being the most horrible person I've seen on this show. Worse than Jesse, worse than Jorge, worse than Colt.  

Worse than Big Ed? Gino, Big Ed, Cage Match! Who is the Grossest? 

[Cini]

Jasmine shared intimate photos with Gino and for him to show them to anybody is a breach of trust. His excuse? He wanted to show his ex "Look how hot my girlfriend is". I would find that questionable if a teenage boy did it, for a 52 year old man it is unacceptable. I loved when Jasmine called him a depressing old man. Lastly, Gino would do better to just shave that last bit of hair off. Being completely bald usually looks better than hanging on to some scraggly fluff.

Ben has now entered stalking territory. He is 53 and he is pursuing a 22 year old woman. Mahogany texted him to not come to Peru - he went anyway. She didn't pick him up at the airport - he thinks she loves him, but is scared. She doesn't reply to any of his many messages or his Runaway Train Poem - he drives to her hometown. He talks about their love for each other, how they planned a life and a family together and that he will fight for this love. Ben, dude, you have never even facetimed with her. As far as God's plans matching Ben's wishes exactly are concerned, I have my doubts. 

I find Memphis very puzzling. She overcame a difficult childhood, put herself through college and is now a Nurse Practitioner, which suggests that she is an intelligent, ambitious woman. This successful woman travels to Tunisia to marry a younger man who she never before met in person and who seems to have no job, no marketable skills and who doesn't speak english. I think Hamza is handsome, but surely that can not be enough to get married on the spot? Then, on the way to the embassy she brings up a 90D favorite: The Prenup. Prenuptial Agreements are generally not a bad idea. When done right, they are a good way to protect certain assets in case of divorce. What they are not, is way to keep everything for yourself and your spouse leaves empty-handed. A proper prenup is a complex contract, it has to be fair, both parties have to disclose all their assets and liabilities, neither party signs under duress and both parties have proper legal representation to understand what they are signing. Judges can throw  prenups out if they don't meet all those criteria. Memphis telling Hamza, via translator app, that he has to sign the prenup or she will not marry him makes whatever he signs invalid. A prenup also doesn't get anybody out of being financially responsible for the foreign spouse for 10 years.  That is a contract between the US spouse and the US government.     In the cab she tells him that when they are married  "everything will be 50:50".  What will be 50:50? Financial contributions to the household? How? He isn't going to be able to work for quite a while. They are going to evenly split household chores? He is a 22 year old man from a culture where household and child care are strictly a woman's domain. He isn't just going to jump into gear and start cooking dinner, clean the toilets and do the laundry. I just don't understand how Memphis envisions this is going to work.

 

[Kdawg82]

Yeah the thing is with Gino- he must have mental problems (if it's not all just hired actors with a storyline). Who does that?! And not only that but, she should sue him. Nudes are nudes but taking away someone's rights to them? That's bad. They could be all over the net especially after Jasmine gains some fandom, they could be sold. 

Ben- God isn't "in this." Not even in the vicinity of this. Take all your $ resources and put it into your life and your CHILDREN who I'm sure can use it. P.s. Ben's wife was more attractive when we saw her than in her pics from the past. Ben seems to be a predator at this point. Find a nice 50 year old to settle down with. The world is full of them. Did he have a bad botox job or something? Because his right eye droops. I wonder what happened there.

Ximena must be on the expressway to America. Idk. I think she barely tolerates or can look at Mike.  He seems nice enough but I don't think this is going to work out. The previews seem to show a shallowness that will emerge from X. 

[Sir RaiderDuck OMS]

FYI: As intimated by one or two posters above, the version of this episode airing on TLC has different Caleb & Alina content than the version airing on D+ (or at least the version Mrs. RaiderDuck and I watched Sunday morning, which repeated Elijah's departure and the gross Turkish bath).

On TLC, the two go to dinner where Alina asks for a commitment, Caleb hems and haws, and Alina gets mad and kicks him to the couch. The next day, they go on a boat ride where Alina pesters him some more, and Caleb refuses to commit. Later, they have another talk where he admits he's not up to the physical challenges of taking care of her. She insists he should do it anyway if he really loves her, and she "thought he was different." Later at the airport, she continues to be whiney and passive-aggressive over his not committing to her, and he voiceovers that he considers it a breakup, complete with generic breakup music playing in the background.

[greekmom]

34 minutes ago, Cini said:

I find Memphis very puzzling. She overcame a difficult childhood, put herself through college and is now a Nurse Practitioner, which suggests that she is an intelligent, ambitious woman. This successful woman travels to Tunisia to marry a younger man who she never before met in person and who seems to have no job, no marketable skills and who doesn't speak english. I think Hamza is handsome, but surely that can not be enough to get married on the spot? Then, on the way to the embassy she brings up a 90D favorite: The Prenup. Prenuptial Agreements are generally not a bad idea. When done right, they are a good way to protect certain assets in case of divorce. What they are not, is way to keep everything for yourself and your spouse leaves empty-handed. A proper prenup is a complex contract, it has to be fair, both parties have to disclose all their assets and liabilities, neither party signs under duress and both parties have proper legal representation to understand what they are signing. Judges can throw  prenups out if they don't meet all those criteria. Memphis telling Hamza, via translator app, that he has to sign the prenup or she will not marry him makes whatever he signs invalid. A prenup also doesn't get anybody out of being financially responsible for the foreign spouse for 10 years.  That is a contract between the US spouse and the US government.     In the cab she tells him that when they are married  "everything will be 50:50".  What will be 50:50? Financial contributions to the household? How? He isn't going to be able to work for quite a while. They are going to evenly split household chores? He is a 22 year old man from a culture where household and child care are strictly a woman's domain. He isn't just going to jump into gear and start cooking dinner, clean the toilets and do the laundry. I just don't understand how Memphis envisions this is going to work.

 

Alot of educated women are terrible at relationships and not so bright when picking men.

The issue with Memphis is that she wants a young hot guy that romances her 24/7 (texts, emojis, sweet love notes, etc) but will do half the house work and give up his pay.  That dude only exists in romance books.

[TipseyGirl]

1 hour ago, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

FYI: As intimated by one or two posters above, the version of this episode airing on TLC has different Caleb & Alina content than the version airing on D+ (or at least the version Mrs. RaiderDuck and I watched Sunday morning, which repeated Elijah's departure and the gross Turkish bath).

On TLC, the two go to dinner where Alina asks for a commitment, Caleb hems and haws, and Alina gets mad and kicks him to the couch. The next day, they go on a boat ride where Alina pesters him some more, and Caleb refuses to commit. Later, they have another talk where he admits he's not up to the physical challenges of taking care of her. She insists he should do it anyway if he really loves her, and she "thought he was different." Later at the airport, she continues to be whiney and passive-aggressive over his not committing to her, and he voiceovers that he considers it a breakup, complete with generic breakup music playing in the background.

Thank you. I was one of the viewers that watched this on D+. Wonder what happened there? Anyway, I appreciate your review. I have it recorded from TLC and plan to watch it later today.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

20 hours ago, Welshman in Ca said:

That's her choice & only hers,  Gino sending a picture to his ex of his current girlfriend naked removes the her choice part.

this x 10000 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ CONSENT! is the issue here. And the most important conversation needed out here w/young people.

[Cini]

Ben should call his attempt at poetry "The Trainwreck", instead of "The Runaway Train".  

It would be a more accurate description of their relationship