Kanye West: The Most Intelligent Celebrity

[DangerousMinds]

Yes, Kanye was rude for going on stage, but I'm not understanding why he's bashed for his opinion.  People in this thread have given negative opinions constantly about Kanye and the whole Kardashian family.

I would be shocked if Kanye has even listened to Beck's album. And the Kartrashians have yet to inspire any positive thoughts in me. So I give my (informed) opinions.

[howmanywords]

Yes, Kanye was rude for going on stage, but I'm not understanding why he's bashed for his opinion.  People in this thread have given negative opinions constantly about Kanye and the whole Kardashian family.

Perhaps you should look around elsewhere on the internet, this is hardly the only spot ripping Kanye for his opinion, his own peers are also. Many sites running the article about him saying what he did? Look at the comments. You wont see many people praising him. And FWIW this is not a Kardashian fan board so yes we'll bitch about them a lot. 

 

Speaking of, you can add New England Patriot Brandon Browner to the "not exactly a Kanye fan" club (while not in the music field, here's at least one person of color stepping up and trashing Kanye)

Brandon Browner's Twitter rant against Kanye West is spot on

[GaT]

Speaking of, you can add New England Patriot Brandon Browner to the "not exactly a Kanye fan" club (while not in the music field, here's at least one person of color stepping up and trashing Kanye)

Brandon Browner's Twitter rant against Kanye West is spot on

John Legend didn't trash him, but he did say he disagreed with his comments

 

EDITED: And here's another thing I think. This has happened twice. If it happens again, then I'm going to start looking at Beyonce. After Taylor Swift, Beyonce should have made sure Kanye knew this was unacceptable. After Beck, she should have raised hell. If it happens again, then I think he's doing it with her permission. 

Edited February 11, 2015 by GaT

[Talented Tenth]

I understand that a lot of us are from TWoP, but just like this isn't a fan site, it isn't a hater site either.  I'm not saying anyone is wrong for their opinion.  I'm just pointing out that a lot of people here have negative opinions about celebrities and freely state them just like Kanye did about Beck and Taylor Swift.  I don't believe that celebrities are held to a different standard.  If it's okay for us to state our negative opinions it should be okay for Kanye to do so without being bashed.  I do think he should have refrained from taking the stage in both cases and I have no problem with people taking issue with that.  I don't see why people take issue with his opinion.  Whether any other celeb expresses their opinions or not, they do not all think everyone is great.  Some people in here said Beyonce is mediocre and Kanye doesn't have much talent, just like Kanye thinks Beck is a lesser which is his right.  Beyonce and Kanye both have 20+ Grammys.  Beyonce is the second most honored woman in Grammy history.  I doubt she losing sleep over her detractors.

Edited February 11, 2015 by Talented Tenth

[Mu Shu]

There is having your opinion, and hijacking someone else's moment in the sun. It wasn't just rude, it was childish and disrespectful. You certainly seem to take issue with opinions which don't mesh with yours.

[Maysie]

Talented Tenth, I've never professed to be a fan of Kanye, and he's certainly been a goldmine to make fun of, however, for me, he absolutely crossed a line with this whole episode.

 

Prior to this he was merely annoying -- a person who consistently prattles on about being denied respect, about how great he is, how great is talent is, how great his woman is. And I was raised that if you have to talk that much about your accomplishments, if you always have to point them out to people, you're spending more time talking about them than doing them. Now I won't deny that he has talent, however, he's not the only one with talent -- but he's one of the few that will never let you forget it.

 

If this latest episode had ended with him running up on the stage and then turning around and sitting down and keeping his mouth shut, at least until after the event was over, then okay, we'd all have a good laugh and be pleasantly surprised at the thought he might, just might, have a sense of humor about himself. (FWIW, I don't think he went up on stage as a joke, I think somehow he thought the better of it, perhaps getting the stink eye from someone, and turned around.) But he could not -- or more likely, would not -- control himself. He had to insert himself into someone else's moment, something that Beck earned, whether anyone agrees with it or not, and confirm that in fact, no Beck, should not have won and then launch into a ridiculous rant on the lack of artistry and respect at the Grammys. (And I know it was said at an interview after the award, but for fuck's sake, give it 12 hours; let the man enjoy his goddamned award for more than an hour.)

 

And he lost me when he started throwing around the "disrespect" word. He can disagree with Beck's win all day long. He can even give an interview later and say "you know, I haven't even listed to Beck's album, but after hearing Bey's I don't know how anything can top it," and I'd be just fine with that. But he disrespected Beck, he disrespected all that voted for him (including his fellow voting artists, by the way) and he actually disrespected Beyonce yet again by taking up some bizarre battle in her name to air his personal problems/complaints.

 

And for icing on the cake, he attacks the commercialism of the E! network, who does plenty to line his wife's pockets.

 

The nicest thing I can say about him is he's a narcissistic hypocrite. Whereas I didn't care much one way or another about him prior to this, I now loathe him, probably more than I do his troll of a wife.

 

You obviously have a favorable opinion of Kanye and the Kardashians and that's fine. I don't understand or agree with it in most cases, but hey, it's yours and you own it. However, I'm not going to pile it on and "disrespect" you and criticize you for it. And different opinions allow for some interesting give and take in all forums. However, Kanye doesn't do that; it's his way or the highway. And he did a lot more than state an opinion. There are far more appropriate ways to make his point. Beck's win isn't about Beck's album anymore. Beck's win is now about what Kanye thinks of Beck's win.

 

I haven't listened to either album, so hell, I may actually find I agree with Kanye. But whether I agree or not, the fact, for me, is that Kanye hijacked a moment, inserted himself into a situation where he really didn't belong and in the height of hypocrisy, was disrespectful to all involved. I, for one, have had enough of his bullshit antics; he's an asshole and can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

 

/rant

[DollEyes]

 

There is having your opinion, and [there is] hijacking someone else's moment in the sun. it wasn't just rude, it was childish and disrespectful.

 

    Amen. Kanye is entitled to his opinions, but he is not entitled to stealing someone else's spotlight just because he disagrees. Like I said in my previous post, I didn't agree with Beck's win either, but Kanye went too far, using Beyoncé as an excuse. This is but the latest example of  Kanye's not only shitting on someone else, but thinking that it doesn't stink and attacking anyone who says otherwise. Kanye did something stupid again and he should/will be called on it. Kanye deserves all the bashing he gets for this no matter where or whom it comes from, including me. If someone does good, I'll praise them, but if someone fucks up as badly as Kanye's done for the umpteenth time, I'll put them on blast every chance I get, without apologies.

 

 

This has happened twice. If it happens again, I'm going to have to start looking at Beyoncé. After Taylor Swift, Beyoncé should have made sure that Kanye knew this was unacceptable. After Beck, she should have raised hell. If it happens again, then I think he's doing it with her permission.

 

  I respectfully disagree.  Beyoncé is not responsible for Kanye. After the Taylor Swift VMA debacle, when Beyoncé won another award later that night, instead of doing her own acceptance speech, she gave Taylor the moment that Kanye took away, which was pure class on her part. As for Beck, if the Vine video of her and Jay-Z's reaction at the time is any indication, she thought that Kanye was just kidding. Given Kanye's crazy, even if Beyoncé does say something publically, chances are he'll just use it as an excuse to trash Beck again. Nobody controls Kanye but Kanye.

 

ETA: Bravo, Maysie! I couldn't have said it better myself.

Edited February 12, 2015 by DollEyes

[truthaboutluv]

There is having your opinion, and hijacking someone else's moment in the sun. It wasn't just rude, it was childish and disrespectful.

 

 

He can disagree with Beck's win all day long. He can even give an interview later and say "you know, I haven't even listed to Beck's album, but after hearing Bey's I don't know how anything can top it," and I'd be just fine with that.

 

 

This exactly. No one, I don't think, is saying Kanye isn't entitled to his opinion. I'm sure many of the artists/producers/songwriters in the Grammy audience had opinions about the winners and those who lost. However all of them kept their asses in their seat and gave the winners the respect of having their moment, whether they agreed with it or not. It is not that Kanye thought Beyonce should have won - fair enough. As the poster above stated, he could have expressed that in his E! interview just fine and it would have been whatever, because it his opinion. 

 

It's that he clearly seems to think his opinion is so important and clearly right that he needs to interrupt a person's moment to express that. Yes he didn't do the rant on the stage and at that time played it off as a joke but even when I thought he was just joking, that move still annoyed me because it was unnecessary, still took away from Beck's winning moment and seemed famewhoring at its best. And then he compounds it with that nonsense that Beck should have given the award to Beyonce. Like who died and made Kanye the arbiter of all things great and if he believes it, then it must be so?

 

Beck had just as much right as Beyonce to win that award and he owes her and no one else a damn thing. And just for the record, not to go too off the topic of Kanye, but as a person who pays attention to all kinds of music, I actually knew the award was likely between Beyonce and Beck and either winning was fine with me. Yes Beyonce's album was good but I feel like people were more impressed with her marketing and publicity strategy and the whole visual album thing than the content of the album. Meanwhile Beck's album quietly garnered as much if not more critical praise than Beyonce. He, like her, has been the industry for years, even longer than her, paid his dues just as she has and in my opinion deserved his win and deserved to have it without it becoming the "Kanye West Show". 

 

I'll take your word for it, but just because Beck (or anyone else) writes and composes his own songs doesn't automatically make them good, pleasing to the ear and superior than someone who doesn't write everything.  At the end of the day what matters is the quality of the product (which is subjective).

 

 

Yes the quality of the product is what matters which yes, as you stated is subjective, something Kanye himself doesn't seem to get. Because contrary to his belief and members of the Beyhive, not everyone thinks Beyonce is the be all and end all and view her as Queen Bey and not everyone thought her album was the greatest thing in years. And that's the problem with Kanye - is that he doesn't seem to get that and instead acts like his opinions are the only ones that matter and so important which is why he needs to interrupt people and take away from their moment. Because if Yeezy isn't happy about something then clearly it's not right...like give me a break. Kanye needs to grow the hell up and stop acting like a man-child throwing tantrums. 

 

As for the fact about Beck writing and producing all his songs, not to mention playing like 12 instruments, it matters in this case because Kanye was the idiot who decided to make this an issue about artistry. His comment was that Beck needed to respect artistry and give his award to Beyonce. And I'm sorry, in what freaking world are you going to question the artistry of someone who writes, composes and plays all their instruments. Like how much more artistic and true to his craft can he get? Also, and I say this as someone who has no issues with Beyonce, but it's especially laughable against a woman who uses like 5 writers for the most basic song and has been proven many times to just shove her name on a song she really didn't contribute much to, to get writing credit. Of course I notice even he realized how ridiculous he was with that and backtracked. A pap video of him at the airport has him saying that he didn't mean Beck didn't respect artistry but the Grammys. Except there is footage - we know that's not what he originally said. 

 

If it's okay for us to state our negative opinions it should be okay for Kanye to do so without being bashed.

 

 

Once again, it is not about simply having an opinion but the shitting on other people's moment and disrespecting them. Also using comments random individuals make on some random message board about celebrities is a stretch in my opinion. These people are public figures that people talk about and they are well aware of that. I cannot imagine any celebrity (though some may be narcissistic enough to do it) coming on some random message board to see what people they don't know are saying about them. I imagine they are all smart enough to know how counter-productive that is.

 

The problem with Kanye is that he is a public figure, doing these things on a very public platform. Put it this way - I thought Ed Sheeran should have won Best Pop Vocal Album over Sam Smith and said so on this board in the Grammy thread. Similarly I thought Sia should have won ROTY and SOTY instead of Sam. I expressed that on this board where I doubt Sam Smith saw my comment or would care if he did. That said, despite my feelings about these categories, if Ed had rushed the stage when Sam won or Sia, I would have been outraged on Sam's behalf and thought they were out of line. And if either had gone on about the Grammys not respecting artistry or whatever, I would have thought "you know what, you lost, you sound pathetic and bitter, now get over it." Fair or not, there are just some things as a public figure with a public platform to express your views, that you just don't say or do.

 

Added to that is the fact that this is nothing new with Kanye. Dude has been pulling this shit for years even before the Taylor situation. A year or two before that he got on stage at the EMA's when he lost Best Video and ranted about how his video cost a million dollars to produce (because yes clearly money = good) and then there was the time he ranted about losing Male Video at the VMA's to Justin Timberlake and said how they didn't want to give a black man a chance. It's just tired and old at this point. Kanye is pushing 40, as he himself said he has a wife and kid, so give it damn rest already. 

 

Shirley Manson said it best in her Facebook response to him. He's the one not respecting artistry when he pulls shit like this because what he's saying is that these people's hard work and talent don't mean a damn thing and it's fine to disrespect them just because he thinks someone was better. And I say all this as someone who will fervently argue that Kanye is talented, as someone who owned all his first three albums and who absolutely thought he should have gotten an AOTY nomination for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. But these tired, childish antics Kanye keep pulling just make him seem like a joke and that saddens me as someone who does respect his talent.

Edited February 11, 2015 by truthaboutluv

[parisprincess]

Standing ovation for Maysie!  Kanye does have a right to his opinion, but the way he chooses to express it just makes him look like the ass he is.  How many times has he made outrageous statements that make you shake your head?  The scary part is that he actually believes all the garbage he spews. 

[Kromm]

Yes, Kanye was rude for going on stage, but I'm not understanding why he's bashed for his opinion.  People in this thread have given negative opinions constantly about Kanye and the whole Kardashian family.

You don't think his actions outweigh his opinion?

 

Any prayer he had of his opinion being taken seriously went down the toilet the moment he sabotaged yet another performer's big moment.  As I said upthread I can understand the general opinion that there are gender and racial biases in award giving, but what he did wasn't the action of some grand crusader who's opinion should be respected, it was the action of an egotistical jackass who's opinions are subservient to his horrendous judgement.  And he didn't choose a form of protest that indicted the platform/institution that awarded the Grammy to a place he disagreed with--he instead indicted the recipient, as if it was HIS fault. He had to make an innocent third party into a victim to try and make his point.  

 

I suppose he DID get more than a little from his Black Panther father.  Except they used their power to protest political and economic oppression, while he uses his to wah-wah about whose mantle a stupid golden statue sits on.

Edited February 11, 2015 by Kromm

[Artsda]

 

If it's okay for us to state our negative opinions it should be okay for Kanye to do so without being bashed.

I'm sure other people in that auditorium had their own beliefs as to who should win which award. I doubt Kanye's the only one who disagreed with who won a category. Difference is, those other people stayed in their seats. Those people had respect for their peers and artists that won. They clap and respect the artist that won.

 

They didn't get up, walk up the steps, to go on the stage to make some asshole point and behave like a jerk. Kanye can have opinions and disagree, ( despite him sounding like a moron saying a guy who played 14 instruments needs to respect artistry from those who use computer harmonics) but Kanye needs to learn to sit his ass down in his seat and respect his peers because he's the one disrespecting artistry by claiming only his opinion is right and others deserve nothing.

 

Kanye behaves like a bully, first to a 15 year old girl and now Beck that is critically acclaimed and talents are tremendous. Kanye doesn't have the guts to go up on stage and pull that stunt against anyone else other than people smaller than him and won't tell him to sit his ass back own. It makes him a bully not just someone with a different opinion.  

Edited February 11, 2015 by Artsda

[Kromm]

You know, if he'd held a press conference after the awards, I bet dozens of reporters and paps would have shown up.  He could have stood there and indicted the Grammy organization left and right and he would have been controversial, and covered, and made his point.

 

But instead he choose to get up on live TV, disrupt the moment of someone who's fault it couldn't possibly be, and reveal his actual real agenda--drawing the most attention to himself he can.  I think it reveals that he doesn't give a shit about the actual issue... all he cares about is maximizing any expression of his opinion.  He cares about himself, first and foremost, and not about any sense of justice.

[OnceSane]

Several people are violating this site's "Don't Be A Dick" policy. Please stop. Everyone has a right to express their opinions, even when those opinions run contrary to your own. Kanye is a public figure and is fair game for commentary, positive or negative.

[GaT]

Some serious back pedaling going on 

 

"When I said that thing about respect artistry, I think it came off the wrong way, and that was a mis-wording on my part because obviously Beck is one the most respected artists and respects artistry," the 21-time Grammy-winner told Seacrest. "But I felt — and this is my opinion and he's his own man and he's not wrong and we'll still go play basketball and stuff [unless] he doesn't want to do it — but I felt that even though the Grammys some times gives awards to people who you wouldn't think should win in the category, as a respect to artists, we mention the other artist's name in our speech. And that was the point I was making about it."

Okaaaay, whatever, I think someone got yelled at.

[iwasish]

Some serious back pedaling going on 

Okaaaay, whatever, I think someone got yelled at.

Why does Beck have to mention Beyoncé or any of the other nominees in the 15 seconds they allowed winners to speak before giving them the musical equivalent  of the hook? They were nominated, their names were read just prior to the announcement of the winner, the crowd applauded them. What else is necessary?  The only name Kanye cared about hearing mentioned was Beyoncé's ... or his own.  What a pathetic clown. He's a joke. Sure  his name is being mentioned on every talk show but so is Brian Williams and  both of them are being universally trashed. Go back to France with all your artsy fartsy pals and take big butt with you. We need a break from you showing your ass and her showing her tits.

Edited February 11, 2015 by iwasish

[BitterApple]

The thing is, just because Kanye thinks Beyoncé is the end all be all to music, doesn't mean everyone else does. It also doesn't mean that other types of music and other artists can't be given recognition at an awards show. If Beyoncé has an issue with it, she's a big girl, she can speak for herself. If Kanye wanted to express his opinion fine, but don't ruin someone else's moment because you're butt hurt Beyoncé didn't win her zillionth Grammy.

[Artsda]

Talking about backtracking. 

 

Wonder who got him to do that, definitely wasn't Kim. Probably was Beyonce/Jay-Z. Jay is BFF's with Chris Martin, closer than he ever is with Kanye. Chris was even at his wedding, Chris and Beck are friends. Wonder if Jay-Z's circle didn't appreciate Kanye's comments in his wifes name.

Edited February 11, 2015 by Artsda

[parisprincess]

Asked if he believes Beyoncé didn't win because she is "so commercial, popular, and successful" he replied, "I believe she didn't move and run to the stage because she's a respectful individual. But because she is so successful, a lot of times, success disables your ability to communicate exactly what the f--k you want to say!"

 

What is this gibberish?  Success disables your ability to communicate exactly what you want to say?  What the fuck does that even mean?  That guy can talk more and say less than anyone except his stupid wife.

 

Yes, Beyoncé didn't run to the stage because she is respectful.  Unfortunately, no one can say the same for Kanye. 

[DangerousMinds]

Beck plays 16 instruments, actually. And writes and produces all his own work. I have FB musician friends who have been discussing this issue, and they have all taken the time to listen to both albums intently, and give informed opinions about the music and production. Could Kanye do the same?

[Kromm]

Beck plays 16 instruments, actually. And writes and produces all his own work. I have FB musician friends who have been discussing this issue, and they have all taken the time to listen to both albums intently, and give informed opinions about the music and production. Could Kanye do the same?

No.  Because he was never rendering an honest opinion about Beck or his music.  He was just playing racial politics.

[BitterApple]

I think it all boils down to Kanye desperately wanting to be back in the cool kids circle after he got excommunicated when he married Kim. Nobody takes him seriously anymore.

[Crucial]

So it's the voices in his head that made him say those things?  Really?  He's going with that?  Ugh just say you were a dumbass and said some dumbass things.  I'd give him props if he came out and did that rather than that stupid excuse.  It's a stupid excuse for me at least.

 

Side note Kim must have heard those voices because she looked to be agreeing with him during the Grammys.  She's got talent if she can do that, lol.

[DangerousMinds]

'I will not go to the Grammys [again] until I sit with Neil [Portnow], sit with Jimmy Jam, and fix the voting system so that it is more in line with the popular vote as those who are popular are the ones selling their advertising.'

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2949488/Kanye-West-vows-boycott-Grammys-fix-voting-launches-rant-Beck-s-victory-Beyonce.html#ixzz3RUjoM1jP

 

PROMISE?
 

 

And one more - he is out of control:

 

Kanye said the Grammys were creating a situation of classism as it was not allowing those blessed with greatness give back.
'Life isn't fair because there is only a small group that are talented enough or pretty enough... [so Grammys] is about us given back to the masses.
'This is about music, we have to start right here start at the Grammys, at any award show, we need to show we are the world we are the inspiration, we are the people, that give people inspiration as they drive to work.'

Actually, Princess Kanye, there are many more "pretty and talented" out there who are yet unknowns. Can't wait until they make themselves known and erase you.

Edited February 12, 2015 by DangerousMinds

[Crucial]

'I will not go to the Grammys [again] until I sit with Neil [Portnow], sit with Jimmy Jam, and fix the voting system so that it is more in line with the popular vote as those who are popular are the ones selling their advertising.'

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2949488/Kanye-West-vows-boycott-Grammys-fix-voting-launches-rant-Beck-s-victory-Beyonce.html#ixzz3RUjoM1jP

 

PROMISE?

 

 

And one more - he is out of control:

 

Kanye said the Grammys were creating a situation of classism as it was not allowing those blessed with greatness give back.

'Life isn't fair because there is only a small group that are talented enough or pretty enough... [so Grammys] is about us given back to the masses.

'This is about music, we have to start right here start at the Grammys, at any award show, we need to show we are the world we are the inspiration, we are the people, that give people inspiration as they drive to work.'

Actually, Princess Kanye, there are many more "pretty and talented" out there who are yet unknowns. Can't wait until they make themselves known and erase you.

  Can we just get him to say in writing he will not go to the Grammys.  I mean 'stop him at the gate and you do not go through' type of thing.  HRH doesn't like how things are, then go to the committee and changes things.  But a petulant child who doesn't get his way or winner is not a reason for change.  That being said, he doesn't belong anywhere near any changes because Kanye wants only who Kanye wants.  He's shown that twice now.

[howmanywords]

Oh I say let him ramble all he wants. I'm getting so much amusement reading him shoot his mouth off. Voices in his head?   Dude sounds more and more loony the more he keeps going. 

[Kromm]

I'd say "I'm struggling to understand what Kanye means", except I know these are the words of either a madman, and/or an ego-driven narcissist using double-talk.

 

In his mind, does Beck represent the upper-class, hogging the awards (cause you know.. getting them once per decade? What a selfish pig Beck must be...)  Or is he saying that he and Beyonce are the upper class, because of their superior talent (in his mind), who are meant to light the way for the poor ignorant masses, and that Beck is just getting in the way of that happening?

Edited February 12, 2015 by Kromm

[DangerousMinds]

Kanye and Beyoncé are in the upper class, because so very few of us will ever make it. We need them as our beautiful and talented saviors. Ugh.

[Maysie]

I don't know if even he knows what he's saying.

 

In all seriousness, I sense there's a shitload of stuff racing through Kanye's mind. I've known people who just blather stream of consciousness stuff that is passing through their mind at the moment and I dread talking to them because I have no idea of where it's headed. That's what Kanye's quote reminds me of. I've tried to parse it out, and it simply makes no sense. If I had to guess, this is the kind of shit that races around in his mind 24/7 and when he gets the opportunity to educate the rest of us, it just pops out based on where it is in the loop, which is probably influenced by whatever environment he's in.

 

I won't call him crazy, nor will I call him a creative genius because I don't know what's going on up there. I will say he's damn lucky he's made it in the music business because in the real world, with the rest of us worker bees, he wouldn't be nearly so successful.

 

As for fixing the Grammy voting process, I think his position of "giving back to the masses" is a bit arrogant. I have a few friends who are actually members of the Academy who vote. They play, and listen to, a wide variety of music. I have no idea who they vote for, but I know they take the privilege seriously. Even though they are accomplished musicians, they aren't making millions but they make a living. It seems to me the difference between them and some of their more "talented/pretty" counterparts likely has to do with luck and connections. And here's the difference between them and Kanye: though they don't care for him on a human-level, if they felt he made a bangin record, they sure as shit would vote for it because it is about good music to them. Every musician I've known takes their craft seriously. And that is why I said earlier that Kanye is disrespecting the voting members of the Academy (which should include him, if he's paying his dues, by the way).

 

So in addition to getting Kim that star on the walk of fame, he's going to fix the Grammy awards now so we'll all like what he likes. I will say this: dude likes a challenge.

[Jellybeans]

I am sure Beyonce is loving every minute of it.

[BitterApple]

I am sure Beyonce is loving every minute of it.

I agree. She's a big time stunt queen herself.

[Shangrilala]

Success disables your ability to communicate exactly what you want to say. 

 

So then...Kanye agrees that he's nothing but a loser? 

 

And can somebody please explain to me why the frack Kanye is so up Beyonce's award ceremony butt? 

 

Kanye, dude.  She is not your wife.  She will never be your wife.  You are probably nothing but an embarrassment to her, but she tolerates you because you are friends with her husband.  That's what people do with their spouses less than desirable friendships (for as long as they last).  You tolerate them and privately wish they would stop coming around so much.  Stop worrying about Beyonce's success and award shelf and concentrate on getting your shit together because the more you talk, the more idiotic you sound, and the more respect you lose. 

 

Actually, nevermind.  Keep talking your way out of the spotlight.  I would rather watch Kim scream about her Bentley moment than listen to you. 

 

P.S.  Not everything in life is racist or an example of classicism.  Actually the people who run around screaming racism constantly wind up being the ones who are racist themselves.  It goes both ways you know.  Just sayin....

[ByTor]

 

Asked if he believes Beyoncé didn't win because she is "so commercial, popular, and successful" he replied, "I believe she didn't move and run to the stage because she's a respectful individual. But because she is so successful, a lot of times, success disables your ability to communicate exactly what the f--k you want to say!"

 

Huh? The question had nothing to do with whether she ran to the stage.

Edited February 12, 2015 by ByTor

[Watermelon]

I find this whole "give awards to the popular people" thing utterly ridiculous. I could swear there are like 5 other award shows that are all about the popular vote.  GRAMMYs are about what professionals in the industry deem to be the best.  

 

If he wants to be mad cuz there arent enough black members or younger members, that could be a thing, but bitching because the results werent what he agreed with so MUST be wrong, is just so bitchmade.

[Artsda]

His clothes look awful, Kendall sits to watch and Kylie walked the show?

 

http://nypost.com/2015/02/12/kanye-kicks-off-fashion-week-with-an-a-list-extravaganza/

[GaT]

Beyonce's shoes are awesome.

[howmanywords]

Ugh they showed on the NY news tonight a clip of the concert Kanye gave and they said several thousand people showed up, some waiting in the freezing cold since late this afternoon. Then they interviewed 3 of the Kanye fans who were among the ones who waited several hours just to get a good spot and they were shouting hes their Idol and a genius. SMH.

[DangerousMinds]

What a bunch of twats. And no surprise, Princess Kanye's clothing line is butt ugly.

[Maysie]

Well, what little I saw looks like anything I could pick up off the rack at the local Goodwill store. And sleeves? Too long.

 

Kanye's outburst obviously didn't do anything to affect his relationship with Beyonce and Jay Z, so I don't expect any changes from him. And looking at those pics, Beyonce certainly didn't mind Kim's presence next to her. They didn't look chummy, but she didn't looked repelled, either. Anna Wintour, on the other hand, was angled toward her other neighbor, which I find hilarious.

 

For me, this underscores that Kanye has a strong core group of supporters that are powerful in the industry. Let's face it: Anna Wintour is the top of the fashion game and Beyonce and Jay Z are the top of popular music (with a side of Rhianna thrown in there). Maybe he's a great friend, maybe they feel his talent is worth his bullshit, or maybe they don't even find it to be bullshit. Whatever, he ain't going anywhere soon, which means neither is his wife and the rest of her succubi crew.

[iwasish]

His clothes look awful, Kendall sits to watch and Kylie walked the show?

 

http://nypost.com/2015/02/12/kanye-kicks-off-fashion-week-with-an-a-list-extravaganza/

She looked like a rag picker. Kim didn't look happy in that pic of North acting up.

Kris has had a LOT of work done and not good work. 

Kendall looked awful.

Khloe looked like a cheap ho, what with the fat lips and exposed titties.

Kourtney? No where to be seen. I like that girl. 

[parisprincess]

So now we get to see what Kanye considers high fashion!  An outfit that consists of nothing except a bomber jacket two sizes too large?  Sleeves on tops that go way past your fingertips?  Flesh colored body suits with a sweater tied around your hips?  Nothing in his line was cohesive, just a bunch of mashed together pieces that looked like he raided a homeless person's supermarket cart.  And why was North even there?  Kim had to take her to another room because she was cranky.  Well, I'd be cranky too if I had to sit there and look at the shit that Kanye calls a clothing line. 

 

I can't believe that ANYONE in the audience takes him serious after watching his show.  If they do, I want what they're smoking!

[ByTor]

And why was North even there?  Kim had to take her to another room because she was cranky.  Well, I'd be cranky too if I had to sit there and look at the shit that Kanye calls a clothing line. 

The poor kid probably had a headache from how tight her hair was pulled back.

[Kromm]

North really is this decades' version of Suri Cruise, isn't she?

Except poor North has two insane egotistical parents, and Suri only had one (since I think behind the scenes Katie Holmes tried to do her best for the kid).

[Lisin]

North really is this decades' version of Suri Cruise, isn't she?

Except poor North has two insane egotistical parents, and Suri only had one (since I think behind the scenes Katie Holmes tried to do her best for the kid).

 

Add to the fact that Tom and Katie probably weren't calling the paps every time they left the house... Because if you notice since Kristen Bell'/Jennifer Garner/Hallie Berry's whole No Kid Pics campaign last year (?) North is one of the only babies you in the rags now... that's because they have Kimye's permission to use those pictures, unlike Suri and a bunch of other kids who I've already forgotten, which I suppose is kind of the point.

[howmanywords]

 

For me, this underscores that Kanye has a strong core group of supporters that are powerful in the industry. Let's face it: Anna Wintour is the top of the fashion game and Beyonce and Jay Z are the top of popular music (with a side of Rhianna thrown in there). Maybe he's a great friend, maybe they feel his talent is worth his bullshit, or maybe they don't even find it to be bullshit. Whatever, he ain't going anywhere soon, which means neither is his wife and the rest of her succubi crew.

Completely agree and I said the same thing to a co-worker who seemed to think his latest outburst would make him finally go away or at the least piss J and Bey off. Hardly. And believe me they didnt HAVE to be there just like they chose not to go his wedding. In fact more A listers were at his hideous fashion show than they were at his wedding. For whatever reason he's got continued support from import people.

[Artsda]

Anna's face during North's tantrum. LOL

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/north-west-throws-tantrum-at-fashion-show-anna-wintour-moves-away-2015132

 

Elle Magazine editor wasn't fond of the tantrum either.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/north-appearance-kanye-west-fashion-show-article-1.2113569

Edited February 13, 2015 by Artsda

[truthaboutluv]

As much as Kanye annoys me with his shit, I don't know why anyone would think his acting a fool about another award show would kill his career or make him go away. Hollywood is and always has been a very forgiving place. People have careers after going to prison, drug addiction, making offensive comments, etc. Hello, Chris Brown still has a career after he violently beat up Rihanna and left her on the side of a road bloodied and practically passed out. And hell, Kanye himself continued to have a very successful career after he said on national television that the President at the time hated black people.

 

Seriously, the man insulted the president on national television and still had a career. His whinging about Beck not deserving to win AOTY and interrupting him, is not going to ruin his career. That said, I will say his music hasn't been what it was for awhile and that more than anything is what will kill his career. His last album sold 400,000+ in the first week but took a long time to go platinum while people like Drake and Eminem are still killing in sales. 

Edited February 13, 2015 by truthaboutluv

[BitterApple]

Is it me or does Kanye's Kollection look like rags picked out of the discount bin at Goodwill? I mean, seriously, who's ever going to wear that shit?

Lol, and Kylie walked the show? She truly is the Jan to Kendall's Marcia.

Edited February 13, 2015 by BitterApple

[iwasish]

Is it me or does Kanye's Kollection look like rags picked out of the discount bin at Goodwill? I mean, seriously, who's ever going to wear that shit?

Lol, and Kylie walked the show? She truly is the Jan to Kendall's Marcia.

Much of  his line looks like he stole it from Sia. Wasn't her whole Chandelier video full of weird looking bodysuits?

[parisprincess]

He delivered his interpretation of an athletic collection that I know everyone will be clamoring to wear as soon as it hits stores. And it will, as I confirmed that with an Adidas spokesperson when I was leaving his show.

 

I guess I was wrong about it being a shit show because JOE ZEE is praising it like it was the best collection he's ever seen.  Shows how much I know about "artistry".  I'm just anxious to see who in the hell is going to be wearing this stuff.

[alegtostandon]

I had posted under Kylie's link yesterday.  If anyone is praising these designs, then the only thing I can figure it is one of those deals that the clothing is just so outrageous, no one is to really wear them, just look at them on the models.  But check out the boots Kylie is wearing, they are really strange, one toe is pointy, the other is square looking. 

 

There is a picture of Beyoncé sitting next to Kim in the above link where they refer to her as Kim's BFF.  Also, you can see that not only Kim is wearing one of Kanye's "creations", North is forced to also.

 

Kris looks horrible in the picture here .  Her eyes look weird. In the picture below the one of Khloe & Kris, it looks like a group of zombies.

 

I do not understand why someone would bring a baby to a show like this. I am sure Kanye would say to give her 'culture' but very disrespectful to others.

 

I just do not see anything that they are wearing as being 'high fashion'.