The View: Week of 6/14/2021

[falltime]

Monday, June 14 – Former White House Sr Advisor for COVID Response Andy Slavitt (Author, “Preventable”); “View Your Deal” with hottest items at affordable prices

Tuesday, June 15 – Daveed Diggs (“Blindspotting”)

Wednesday, June 16 – D.L. Hughley (Author, “How to Survive America”); Michael Bolton (ABC’s “Celebrity Dating Game”)

Thursday, June 17 – Martin Sheen (“12 Mighty Orphans”); Ziwerekoru "Ziwe" Fumudoh (“ZIWE”)

Friday, June 18 – Historian Annette Gordon-Reed (Author, “On Juneteenth”); Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC); Jean Smart (“Hacks”)

[LetsStartTalking]

Looking forward to Monday's VYD of course, and Jean Smart on Friday. The rest of the week ? Ehhhhh.

[Axie]

I love Jean Smart.  Other than that, don't care.

[ForumLou]

47 minutes ago, Axie said:

I love Jean Smart.  Other than that, don't care.

I think i had heard somewhere that sadly her hubby recently passed away

[LetsStartTalking]

48 minutes ago, ForumLou said:

I think i had heard somewhere that sadly her hubby recently passed away

Yes, he did pass a few months ago. Everyone may remember him as the actor who guest starred on 'Designing Women' (1986-1993) as Mary Jo's ex-husband. That's how he and Smart met, and married in 1990.

[heysmilinstrange]

24 minutes ago, LetsStartTalking said:

Yes, he did pass a few months ago. Everyone may remember him as the actor who guest starred on 'Designing Women' (1986-1993) as Mary Jo's ex-husband. That's how he and Smart met, and married in 1990.

He actually played Mary Jo's boyfriend J.D., not her ex-husband, who was played by Scott Bakula.

[ForumLou]

1 hour ago, LetsStartTalking said:

Yes, he did pass a few months ago. Everyone may remember him as the actor who guest starred on 'Designing Women' (1986-1993) as Mary Jo's ex-husband. That's how he and Smart met, and married in 1990.

Yes he had quite a career in his own right

[Haleth]

Jean Smart was fantastic in Mare of Easttown. Looking forward to her interview. And Daveed Diggs too. 

[Cementhead]

Coincidentally, I just started streaming Designing Women a few days ago.  It's free to watch through ctv.ca for my fellow Canadians. 

On 6/11/2021 at 3:52 PM, falltime said:

Michael Bolton (ABC’s “Celebrity Dating Game”)

And this is the reason why I have to re-watch old sitcoms from the 80s.  Because current day television is filled with this kind of garbage. 

[sugarbaker design]

I just listened to a 40 minute interview of Jean Smart on NPR's Fresh Air.  It was awesome.  I can't imagine how awful the 6 minute interview on The View will be.

[mtlchick]

First thought: Whoopi looks "dressed up."  (For her anyway.)

[Haleth]

So was Meg docked a day for calling Kamala Harris a moron last Fri?  Thank goodness she’s not here to screech about the Squad today.

That Toobin discussion  was really really boring. So was the dog convo.

Too bad Meg wasn’t there to tell us what she was doing on 1/11/20 when Dr Fauci got to work on a vaccine. 

Edited June 14, 2021 by Haleth

[heysmilinstrange]

I wonder if Ana had to fill in for Meghan or Sara at the last minute, which is why she wasn't there right at 11. Maybe someone threw a temper tantrum again.

[Vanderboom]

Disappointing conversation about Toobin. He lost his job with The New Yorker, but was sidelined by CNN temporarily. The unintentionality puts him in a different category from Louis C. K., Joy. Whataboutism is irrelevant, Ana, even when it's about Trump. I think Whoopi was getting at whether Jeffrey Toobin's return indicated privilege, which would have been a little bit interesting, but she could only ask Would this happen if it were a woman?

Maybe Meghan is off because of the Ilhan Omar topic. Meghan's obsession with The Squad would have turned that conversation into a complete shitshow. Ana knows how to critique and disagree while still acting like an adult.

Edited June 14, 2021 by Vanderboom

[TheGreenKnight]

I hope Ana being on all the time is a good sign for next season! They need to do something to stem those ratings losses. And thankfully Joy isn’t off this time Ana's on Monday. Joy is not this show’s problem, otherwise the claims of toxic workplace culture would've been around more than a decade ago rather than simply popping up during McCain's time on the show.

[Bronzedog]

I’m not complaining but it seems like it’s becoming increasingly rare that Meghan makes it through the week without a day off.  I also agree that it seems like Ana was a last minute addition.  Whoopie is obviously not a dog lover.

[TheGreenKnight]

Oh, goodie, Sara made sure to tape View-Your-Deal ahead of time for us. I would have been lost and forlorn without The View's wannabe QVC segments!!

[tinkerbell]

On 6/12/2021 at 8:36 PM, Haleth said:

Jean Smart was fantastic in Mare of Easttown. Looking forward to her interview. And Daveed Diggs too. 

Jean Smart is fantastic.  We just finished watching Mare of Easttown last week, and then watched Hacks this past weekend.  What an actress she is!   

[ifionlyknew]

49 minutes ago, Vanderboom said:

Maybe Meghan is off because of the Ilhan Omar topic. Meghan's obsession with The Squad would have turned that conversation into a complete shitshow. Ana knows how to critique and disagree while still acting like an adult.

Meghan did post over the weekend she was sick.  However I would not be surprised if being told a hot topic was going to be about Omar Meghan had a meltdown and was given the day off.

[ifionlyknew]

3 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

Jean Smart is fantastic.  We just finished watching Mare of Easttown last week, and then watched Hacks this past weekend.  What an actress she is!   

I'm halfway through Mare of Eastown.  Jean Smart has had such a wonderful career since leaving Designing Women 30 years ago.  Her character Charlene was my least favorite of the four but I have come to adore Jean. She can do comedy and drama.  I saw a clip of her in one of the Brady Bunch movies over the weekend and it made me giggle.

[TheGreenKnight]

2 hours ago, ifionlyknew said:

Meghan did post over the weekend she was sick.  However I would not be surprised if being told a hot topic was going to be about Omar Meghan had a meltdown and was given the day off.

Smells fake. I might've believed it if Ana hadn't already been on last Monday, too. If there was any fit thrown, I imagine it would've been over Ana's presence than any particular topic...

Edited June 14, 2021 by TheGreenKnight

[catlover79]

You all know I love Ana, but I have to disagree with her re: Toobin. Maybe she doesn't want to say too much because she also works for CNN, but I think it's wrong to write off what he did as "a mistake". It's irrelevant that he didn't intend to harass anyone. Like Joy said, he could have waited until his Zoom meetings were over.

Missed Sara, did not miss Meghan. Next?

Edited June 14, 2021 by catlover79

[ifionlyknew]

41 minutes ago, catlover79 said:

It's irrelevant that he didn't intend to harass anyone.

This is where intent vs impact comes in. Did he mean to offend anyone? No (although I'm not so sure about that). Did he offend anyone? Yes.  For me it doesn't matter if he thought nobody else could see him.  The whole thing is just gross.  It's the middle of a work day and he felt compelled to masturbate.  Clearly there is something going on with him.

[catlover79]

15 minutes ago, ifionlyknew said:

This is where intent vs impact comes in. Did he mean to offend anyone? No (although I'm not so sure about that). Did he offend anyone? Yes.  For me it doesn't matter if he thought nobody else could see him.  The whole thing is just gross.  It's the middle of a work day and he felt compelled to masturbate.  Clearly there is something going on with him.

Exactly. Yes, it was The New Yorker and not CNN that he was working for when he did the act, but CNN bringing him on like that tarnishes their image with some viewers. What kind of message does that send?

Again, maybe Ana doesn't want to say too much because of her own employment with CNN. But I think her saying that he didn't mean to hurt or harass anyone is too trite.

[RealHousewife]

I have mixed thoughts on Toobin. I get where Ana's coming from on that. He didn't mean to harass anyone, but people have been fired from CNN for much less. I'm surprised he's back. I hesitate to say too much about that incident because as much as I'm horrified by what he did, it can honestly be scary working from home. I try to keep my camera covered, but I always worry. What if I forget to, and I think I'm all alone and start to change? I wish none of our work laptops had cameras.  

With Ilhan Omar, Ana is obviously an adult and mature, unlike Meghan who would have been shrieking in outrage. But Ana's brain works just like Meghan's. America is too precious for her to call out, and she associates criticism of the Israeli government with anti-Semitism. If Ilhan weren't a black Muslim, I don't think what she said would have gotten the GOP panties in a bunch. I know the general consensus is that Ana is really smart and Whoopi isn't, but I actually thought Whoopi addressed that topic better today. I agree with all the lovely posters here so often on so much, but my unpopular opinion is Ana isn't very smart. Nice, fun, and more tolerable than Meghan? Of course! Someone I'd go to for political insight? Absolutely not.

[bannana]

2 hours ago, ifionlyknew said:

This is where intent vs impact comes in. Did he mean to offend anyone? No (although I'm not so sure about that). Did he offend anyone? Yes.  For me it doesn't matter if he thought nobody else could see him. 

And what doesn't make sense is that logistically he would have had his laptop positioned in a specific way to catch him doing the deed. Which makes me think it was intentional just not intended for the whole group. 👀

I think the fact that they had the female anchor have to describe what he did was more offensive than what he did.

And if I were Jeffrey Toobin, I would never show my face or any other body part on a camera ever again. He is just going to be laughed about and mocked by everyone, including his colleagues.

[sugarbaker design]

1 hour ago, bannana said:

And if I were Jeffrey Toobin, I would never show my face or any other body part on a camera ever again. He is just going to be laughed about and mocked by everyone, including his colleagues.

Seriously dude, stick to writing books.

[GHScorpiosRule]

3 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I have mixed thoughts on Toobin. I get where Ana's coming from on that. He didn't mean to harass anyone, but people have been fired from CNN for much less. I'm surprised he's back. I hesitate to say too much about that incident because as much as I'm horrified by what he did, it can honestly be scary working from home. I try to keep my camera covered, but I always worry. What if I forget to, and I think I'm all alone and start to change? I wish none of our work laptops had cameras.  

The thing with Zoom is, you KNOW if your video is turned off or on! You can see yourself on the computer screen. And if your video is turned off, either your name shows up, or a picture you have chosen to use when your video is turned off.

So Toobin is a fucking lying liar who lies. And a narcissistic, perverted pervert to boot.

[deirdra]

7 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

Oh, goodie, Sara made sure to tape View-Your-Deal ahead of time for us. I would have been lost and forlorn without The View's wannabe QVC segments!!

Fast forwarding past Sara on VYD is less objectionable than the usual guy or gal.

[RealHousewife]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

The thing with Zoom is, you KNOW if your video is turned off or on! You can see yourself on the computer screen. And if your video is turned off, either your name shows up, or a picture you have chosen to use when your video is turned off.

So Toobin is a fucking lying liar who lies. And a narcissistic, perverted pervert to boot.

I guess it’s hard for me to digest someone deliberately doing that. It’s just so nasty. 

[deirdra]

The creepiest part about Toobin is that he was just in a meeting with colleagues, presumably, so everyone is probably wondering who or what made him horny during the meeting.  As Ana said, selling avocados under a bridge would be less embarrasing.  Coworkers will wonder what he is up to under the table whenever they see him on Zoom or at the office. And why isn't he paying attention to his job in the middle of a work day?

Edited June 14, 2021 by deirdra

[RealHousewife]

13 minutes ago, deirdra said:

The creepiest part about Toobin is that he was just in a meeting with colleagues, presumably, so everyone is probably wondering who or what made him horny during the meeting.  As Ana said, selling avocados under a bridge would be less embarrasing.  Coworkers will wonder what he is up to under the table whenever they see him on Zoom or at the office. And why isn't he paying attention to his job in the middle of a work day?

I guess I've had some really horny coworkers. I've had some who've messed around in the office parking lots and even in the elevator. I can sort of understand thinking you'll get away with people not seeing you in your car, but I never could understand the elevator. It just seems like a recipe for being caught in a split second. 

I'd get embarrassed if my coworkers saw me without my makeup on or saw that the room I was working in isn't organized. lol Maybe some people need to take something that's like the opposite of viagra? haha 

[Blissfool]

 

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

The thing with Zoom is, you KNOW if your video is turned off or on! You can see yourself on the computer screen. And if your video is turned off, either your name shows up, or a picture you have chosen to use when your video is turned off.

I've worked on Zoom all pandemic (teacher) and what has happened to me is that I open a new tab but forget to end the Zoom meeting.  So if anyone is left in the meeting they can still see me go about my business, but I can't see them. I never did anything scandalous, though. Sometimes, it pays to be boring.

7 minutes ago, deirdra said:

The creepiest part about Toobin is that he was just in a meeting with colleagues, presumably, so everyone is probably wondering who or what made him horny during the meeting. 

That's what I've always wondered....was somebody from that meeting the object of his affection? Disgusting! Of course,, he'd never admit it..

I'm with everyone,  I would never show my face on TV again. He should have just retired. 

[RealHousewife]

1 minute ago, Blissfool said:

 

I've worked on Zoom all pandemic (teacher) and what has happened to me is that I open a new tab but forget to end the Zoom meeting.  So if anyone is left in the meeting they can still see me go about my business, but I can't see them. I never did anything scandalous, though. Sometimes, it pays to be boring.

That's what I've always wondered....was somebody from that meeting the object of his affection? Disgusting! Of course,, he'd never admit it..

I'm with everyone,  I would never show my face on TV again. He should have just retired. 

I'd never show my face again and probably move out of the country. lol

[deirdra]

I've had meetings on Zoom, Webex, GoToMeeting & Teams and the first thing I do is remind myself where the audio & video controls are. I turn off my audio unless I'm speaking, so nobody can hear me drinking coffee, coughing, or watching Tinykittens, etc. during a boring meeting.  I also keep a piece of UGlu/Blu-Tack over my camera until I am ready to participate just in case I hit the wrong button when I've got several windows open on my computer.

[bannana]

45 minutes ago, deirdra said:

Fast forwarding past Sara on VYD is less objectionable than the usual guy or gal.

I never watch VYD but for some reason I left it on today and only caught a minute or so. It was device you put between your seat in your car and the console, so that things don't drop down there. What a great invention! I may have to order that.

2 minutes ago, deirdra said:

I also keep a piece of UGlu/Blu-Tack over my camera until I am ready to participate just in case I hit the wrong button when I've got several windows open on my computer.

I do the post-it note thing. But still, why was his camera angled such that it landed right on his handiwork. It had to be intentional at least for one other viewer. 👀

[After7Only]

5 hours ago, bannana said:

never watch VYD but for some reason I left it on today and only caught a minute or so. It was device you put between your seat in your car and the console, so that things don't drop down there. What a great invention! I may have to order that.

I have one!  I didn’t order it through VYD…Found it at CVS.  And it has come handy plenty of times.  It should just be a standard feature in every car.

I actually think if MM had been there they might not have even discussed Rep. Omar.   I think the other ladies chose to discuss it specifically because MM wasn’t there and they could therefore have a full discussion on the topic.  

Edited June 15, 2021 by After7Only

[bannana]

50 minutes ago, After7Only said:

I have one!  I didn’t order it through VYD…Found it at CVS.

Even better, thanks @After7Only!

[MsTree]

7 hours ago, Blissfool said:

That's what I've always wondered....was somebody from that meeting the object of his affection? Disgusting! Of course,, he'd never admit it..

Most likely had porn on another screen/window or monitor, during the meeting that obviously bored him.

[RealHousewife]

7 minutes ago, MsTree said:

Most likely had porn on another screen/window or monitor, during the meeting that obviously bored him.

I feel so much less guilty for being on this board during my boring ass meetings. 

[MsTree]

1 minute ago, RealHousewife said:

I feel so much less guilty for being on this board during my boring ass meetings. 

As you should...😉

[Spartan Girl]

Too bad Meg’s not here to enjoy Meg not being here! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Felt Ana was being a little too generous about MTG (as was Sarah but I expected that) but other than that she was perfect as usual.

Edited June 15, 2021 by Spartan Girl

[McKavity]

No Meghan again today - yay!!

Consequences for her “moron” comment?  I hope that’s the case…

[Haleth]

1 minute ago, McKavity said:

No Meghan again today - yay!!

Consequences for her “moron” comment?  I hope that’s the case…

That’s what I thought yesterday but she posted on social media that she’s sick. Take it for what it’s worth. 

[Vanderboom]

Really, Whoopi? You seriously think that no dark-skinned Afro-Latinos auditioned for In the Heights? That their noted absence was accidental, even though the setting is WASHINGTON HEIGHTS?! I'm glad Sunny spoke up.  LMM is arguably one of the most powerful Latinos in the entertainment industry, and if he is willing to ignore Afro-Latinos, then how much success will less famous/powerful filmmakers have?

[Bronzedog]

Another day, another snoozer.

[TheGreenKnight]

What a great week so far! :D  I don't even have much to say because bitching about how horrid the show is is usually the main reason to comment these days. What a refreshing change!

EDIT: LOL, this was not a response to BronzeDog, I'm just seeing now they posted the exact opposite above me, ha.

Edited June 15, 2021 by TheGreenKnight

[RealHousewife]

2 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

What a great week so far! :D  I don't even have much to say because bitching about how horrid the show is is usually the main reason to comment these days. What a refreshing change!

EDIT: LOL, this was not a response to BronzeDog, I'm just seeing now they posted the exact opposite above me, ha.

Same, THEGREENKNIGHT, same. It's like old school View without Meghan. I can just sit back and relax and enjoy the show. 

[Pearson80]

2 hours ago, Vanderboom said:

Really, Whoopi? You seriously think that no dark-skinned Afro-Latinos auditioned for In the Heights? That their noted absence was accidental, even though the setting is WASHINGTON HEIGHTS?! I'm glad Sunny spoke up.  LMM is arguably one of the most powerful Latinos in the entertainment industry, and if he is willing to ignore Afro-Latinos, then how much success will less famous/powerful filmmakers have?

Also Afro-Latinos are often told in Hollywood that they don't look Latino and often get cast as Black Americans.  Zoe Saldana comes to mind when she first got to Hollywood. 

I enjoyed the conversation  about Afro-Latino representation and the back and forth between Sunny and Ana, two Latinas with different aesthetics.  Latinos who look like Ana are often the ones shown even on  tv shows on Spanish channels.   There is a lot of racism and colorism within the Latin community.    Sunny was right when she said that a lot of Latinos are ashamed of their African heritage.  

[bannana]

3 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Felt Ana was being a little too generous about MTG (as was Sarah but I expected that) but other than that she was perfect as usual.

Sara has been heading down the road of word salad blathering and today was one of those days. I don't even understand what she was trying to say but didn't care enough to rewind.