The View: Week of 3/15/2021

[deirdra]

55 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

Meghan however is passionately patriotic and tribal. She's NEVER been passionately antiracist. 

And she is only passionately anti anti-Semite because Joe Lieberman was like an uncle to her.  

Edited March 17, 2021 by deirdra

[deirdra]

11 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

I was gonna say the same thing.  Clay Aiken, S.E. Cupp ....  I still have 8 fingers to go...... 🤷‍♀️

Meghan says they are her best friends.  Have you heard either of them list her among their top 10 friends?

[Cementhead]

Oh, does Erika Jayne count as another one?  Or is McCain just a super fangurl?  I still say, hands down, the day that she performed on the show was an absolute favourite of mine.  Our girl McCain was so overwhelmed that she almost needed a fainting couch.  It was super cringe. 

[Badbea99]

23 minutes ago, gatopretoNYC said:

I doubt Megabitch has that many friends.

LOL, according to her, she has friends all over the world!!  Whatever the topic, she tells us she's been on the phone discussing the issue with friends. I laughed when she said she was talking to friends in the UK on a daily basis after the Harry/Meghan interview.  Yesterday, she referenced her California besties during her failed attempt to filet Governor Newsom. Who are these people???

[Cementhead]

1 minute ago, Badbea99 said:

Who are these people???

Randos she's met at the casino? 

[Badbea99]

15 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

Randos she's met at the casino? 

And she probably picked up their bar tabs thus they act like friends all the while kissing her ass to see what else they can get from her desperate self.

 

[tinkerbell]

Meaghan can talk about "cancel culture"  all she wants -  but she was on the "Cancel Kapernick"  bandwagon, and was proud of it.  

[tinkerbell]

I just caught a glimpse of Meaghan's hairstyle from today -  my friends and I used to do that when we were freshmen in high school!  1970's and we thought we were SO cool!  

[Kromm]

23 hours ago, maggiemae said:

Well - Ana is still with CNN and Piers is with no one.

That won't last.  He quit his previous job in a self important very public huff because he already had other offers being dangled in front of him. At least 2 in the UK and 1 in the US (all with mega-right wing media outlets). 

5 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

Meaghan can talk about "cancel culture"  all she wants -  but she was on the "Cancel Kapernick"  bandwagon, and was proud of it.  

Well, her core characteristic is hypocrisy. 

[LetsStartTalking]

7 hours ago, Badbea99 said:

LOL, according to her, she has friends all over the world!!  Whatever the topic, she tells us she's been on the phone discussing the issue with friends. I laughed when she said she was talking to friends in the UK on a daily basis after the Harry/Meghan interview.  Yesterday, she referenced her California besties during her failed attempt to filet Governor Newsom. Who are these people???

Her 9 friends go by the following 9 initials:

 

I -M-A-G-I-N-A-R-Y

[RealHousewife]

51 minutes ago, LetsStartTalking said:

Her 9 friends go by the following 9 initials:

 

I -M-A-G-I-N-A-R-Y

LOL

Maybe she's reasonably nice off camera to people she deems conservative and/or cool enough, who aren't threatening to her. My guess is she probably has a bunch of casual friends, folks she's not truly close to that she sees in small doses. I actually had a former friend like this. She did have a decent number of friends. They were just not very close ones. She didn't have friends she regularly spoke to and hung out with over the course of several years. Her friendships didn't last because of her brattiness. Incidentally, she reminds me of Meghan in many ways. Her father was kind of a big deal in our town. The only reason we were friends for awhile is because our parents were friends. (I've always been more of a quality over quantity person so I had to distance myself from her and do the same anytime someone's not nice.) She also kind of had a similar look to Meghan, but I digress. It's hard for me to picture Meghan nice to just any conservative woman around her age because of how she treated Abby. I'm sure she has to feel the most important, patriotic, political. She could also be the type who considers all acquaintances and work friends, friends-friends. We've all known people who use the friend very loosely. Another possibility is people might let a lot slide with her because at the end of the day she does have money, a famous name, and is on TV. This means a lot to people who value connections over kindness. 

[catlover79]

Ana just got her first shot (more on the Ana thread), making her the third host of the show to get the vaccine - and making even more steam come out of the Princess' ears!!!

Edited March 18, 2021 by catlover79

[bannana]

I am just catching up and you all have covered a lot of ground but I just have to say...first MeAgain cited stats that said that 41% of Repubs would not get the vaccine, and she blamed the CDC and Fauci for that. Then Joy pointed out that is the same % as Trump's base and MeAgain stammered that she didn't know, that the data didn't dive that deep (hah!). Next she says that the reason Repubs don't want to get vaccinated is because Kamala Harris said she didn't trust anything that Trump said and that he was not credible, that she trusted doctors. So Trumpers are not getting vaccinated because of the CDC, Fauci and Harris? That's worse than a stupid argument, it is completely illogical. She never even factored in all of the lies about the Hoax and Masks, etc. Her friends must be laughing their heads off behind her back.

And Joy is so OVER MeAgain. Every time MeAgain says something stupid in reply to Joy or another host, Joy ensures that she gets to counter it. Today I think it was that Joy had quoted someone that said to solve ignorance and racism, people need to be educated and need to travel (not the right words, but the gist). Then MeAgain pointed out that plenty of rich educated people who travel are racist.  And Joy, very annoyed, countered with one doesn't have to travel the world, they can travel to another neighbourhood or state. And that she was talking about children, not fully grown wealthy racist assholes (my words). But she was quite open with her disgust with MeAgain's twist on her point. Joy is all

[bannana]

I am sure that Nick Offerman and Megan Mullaly were thrilled to hear that they are MeAgain and Ben's relationship goals.  

[bannana]

So The View has not covered the big Sharon Osbourne/The Talk story, which is linked to the Piers Morgan/Harry and Megan story, which they talked about for three days. And then they talked about Nick Cannon, and seemed to be shady by saying that you don't say: educate me. And they talked about that racist Ron Johnson who said the quiet part out loud.

What is going on?

[tinkerbell]

16 hours ago, Badbea99 said:

LOL, according to her, she has friends all over the world!!  Whatever the topic, she tells us she's been on the phone discussing the issue with friends. I laughed when she said she was talking to friends in the UK on a daily basis after the Harry/Meghan interview.  Yesterday, she referenced her California besties during her failed attempt to filet Governor Newsom. Who are these people???

I think Meaghan confuses "friends" with "Twitter followers ".

[ginger90]

[LetsStartTalking]

ICE T is going to talk about his new TV show and not his endless car warranty commercials ? Hell, I'm not watching...

[Haleth]

Meg is decrying “victim hood mentality.”  Really?  Has she heard herself?

Jen Penski?

Edited March 18, 2021 by Haleth

[Cementhead]

That's rich --Meghan brings up 'the victim-hood mentality', something she's very familiar with.

[Cementhead]

Jen Penski??  Oh Whoopi.  Don't ever change!

@Haleth  and me = same wavelength today! 

[Cementhead]

This show is so predictable and so are the ladies.  20 minutes in and I'm ready to bail. 

[LetsStartTalking]

I'm so glad we have 'three mental health experts' on this show weighing in at the same time - Sara, Joy, and Sunny. And they can't agree on a diagnosis for the killer in Atlanta. I'm sure Sara, who suffers from anxiety and depression, was happy Sunny shut her right down on national TV after uttering a half of a sentence.

[mtlchick]

22 minutes ago, LetsStartTalking said:

ICE T is going to talk about his new TV show and not his endless car warranty commercials ? Hell, I'm not watching...

Because you know Car Shields Cars go far! This is one of the weirdest ads by a celebrity. But it pays for that bitching Aquarian he has. 

[Axie]

I thought Meghan was going to ramble on with her “I love Coco” so long that there wasn’t going to be enough time for Ice T to answer her.

[mtlchick]

Law and Order SUV, says Whoopi. To be fair, I say that as well.

Ice T is 63?! 

[LetsStartTalking]

19 minutes ago, mtlchick said:

Law and Order SUV, says Whoopi. To be fair, I say that as well.

Ice T is 63?! 

He looks much older than 63 (IMO).  The picture of him with his daughter ? I thought it was his grandaughter.

[LetsStartTalking]

19 hours ago, Badbea99 said:

LOL, according to her, she has friends all over the world!!  Whatever the topic, she tells us she's been on the phone discussing the issue with friends. Who are these people???

Unfortunately, there wasn't enough time in today's ICE T segment, in which she was going to tell him her friends from all over the world have invested in CAR SHIELD, and they have all said it's nothing but a scam. She was just talking to all of them in a group chat this morning before he joined the show. So she was going to filet him over this scam he endorses, but ...

She switched strategy and wasted time on his wife 'Coco'.

[ForumLou]

20 hours ago, Cementhead said:

I was gonna say the same thing.  Clay Aiken, S.E. Cupp ....  I still have 8 fingers to go...... 🤷‍♀️

There's only 1 finger that really counts LOL

[Haleth]

ForumLou wins the internet today.

[GHScorpiosRule]

Oh, Whoopi. You got the name of the show correct the first time, and then you muck it up at the end.

Par for the course.

Again with the messing up of Jen Psaki's name.

Par for the course.

I'm TEAMSUNNY here. There are just evil/bad people out there who like to kill because they're evil, racist, bigoted, or just assholes. Not every killer has to have mental issues as part of the reason for his or her killing spree. So I didn't mind her pushing back, because she wasn't talking about Sara.

First it was Megan Mullally and Nick Offerman who was the couple that Twatty  "followed" or whatever the fuck she said yesterday. Today it's Ice-T and his wife who are her idol or whatever. And lookkeeee, she said the word "sex" and talked about "sex"! Just shut up. And also STFU about "victimhood" when you're the POSTER TODDLER for it. And when you've been perfectly A-Okay with spreading disinformation and lies.

[Kromm]

1 hour ago, mtlchick said:

Law and Order SUV, says Whoopi. To be fair, I say that as well.

Ice T is 63?! 

There's great utility in that vehicle for NBC, and actors who have stayed employed for 22 years. 

[LetsStartTalking]

21 hours ago, Cementhead said:

I was gonna say the same thing.  Clay Aiken, S.E. Cupp ....  I still have 8 fingers to go...... 🤷‍♀️

Andy Cohen.

[Pearson80]

1 hour ago, LetsStartTalking said:

He looks much older than 63 (IMO).  The picture of him with his daughter ? I thought it was his grandaughter.

I think he looks fine and to be fair to him, he has a wife that is 20 years younger than him and he does have grandchildren who are older than his daughter.

[KittyQ]

2 hours ago, LetsStartTalking said:

I'm so glad we have 'three mental health experts' on this show weighing in at the same time - Sara, Joy, and Sunny. And they can't agree on a diagnosis for the killer in Atlanta. I'm sure Sara, who suffers from anxiety and depression, was happy Sunny shut her right down on national TV after uttering a half of a sentence.

At least Sara is willing to consider that there can be multiple factors affecting a person's behavior, especially when violence is involved. The other panelists seem to push for more simplistic explanations.

[cinsays]

Just now, KittyQ said:

At least Sara is willing to consider that there can be multiple factors affecting a person's behavior, especially when violence is involved. The other panelists seem to push for more simplistic explanations.

I think they are just concerned that he will be pleading mental health issues caused him to do these horrible acts so he should not be convicted of the murders.

 

[LetsStartTalking]

4 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

At least Sara is willing to consider that there can be multiple factors affecting a person's behavior, especially when violence is involved. The other panelists seem to push for more simplistic explanations.

Agree - but Sunny shut her right down and dismissed her theory. It was rather humiliating, as Sara was trying to gain traction, but then Joy also shut her right down. Let's face it - they never really cared what the pretty little step-sister ever has to say.

[Teriacky]

Sarah is wearing a very,very, VERY bright neon sweater today! I had a car that color when I was in college-very easy to find in parking lots!

[Axie]

I really wish Sunny would have allowed Sara to talk when they were talking about mental health issues. Sunny seems to be suffering from an inflated sense of self importance lately. 

[KittyQ]

3 minutes ago, cinsays said:

I think they are just concerned that he will be pleading mental health issues caused him to do these horrible acts so he should not be convicted of the murders.

 

He might use that in his defense, but if the investigation shows that there are more prominent motives, a conviction could still happen. My point is only that people are not always as simple in their motivations as we'd like to think. 

[tinkerbell]

21 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

 

I'm TEAMSUNNY here. There are just evil/bad people out there who like to kill because they're evil, racist, bigoted, or just assholes. Not every killer has to have mental issues as part of the reason for his or her killing spree. So I didn't mind her pushing back, because she wasn't talking about Sara.

 

Sunny knows the facts - that it's only when white men kill that people come up with addiction, mental illness, autism, bad parenting, to explain the behavior.  

If a killer isn't white, it's due to gangs, drugs, being a terrorist, an immigrant, or just an all around bad violent person.  

IT's not that mental illness can't be a contributing factor, it's really about how, as a society, we often hear about mental illness contributing to a violent act to explain (or excuse)  crimes committed by white men.  

[cinsays]

50 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

He might use that in his defense, but if the investigation shows that there are more prominent motives, a conviction could still happen. My point is only that people are not always as simple in their motivations as we'd like to think. 

yeah, well, the key word here is "could"  still get convicted, so a chance that he might walk based on this part of his motivation would be awful.  kind of suspicious to me that he was so ready to tell the police this was why he did it and not a racial motivation.

i got your point, just was saying what i thought was behind joy's reaction.

[AryasMum]

51 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

Sunny knows the facts - that it's only when white men kill that people come up with addiction, mental illness, autism, bad parenting, to explain the behavior.  

If a killer isn't white, it's due to gangs, drugs, being a terrorist, an immigrant, or just an all around bad violent person.  

IT's not that mental illness can't be a contributing factor, it's really about how, as a society, we often hear about mental illness contributing to a violent act to explain (or excuse)  crimes committed by white men.  

Yep. I live in a neighboring county and saw the press conference live. I was absolutely disgusted.  
 

Today, a house committee met for the first time to discuss anti-Asian discrimination. Congressman Chip Roy (R-TX), spoke of how all victims deserve justice, somehow brought it around to the BLM protests, and then invoked Texas’ history of lynching.  Then talked of “Communist China” being “the bad guy”.   How in the world can he twist this issue to again attack BLM, and paint a bigger target on the Asian community?
 

As an aside, I just saw a clip of an 83 y/o Asian woman who took a plank to a white man who punched her in the face. He was the one on the EMS stretcher. Go Grandma!

[bannana]

1 hour ago, tinkerbell said:

Sunny knows the facts - that it's only when white men kill that people come up with addiction, mental illness, autism, bad parenting, to explain the behavior.  

If a killer isn't white, it's due to gangs, drugs, being a terrorist, an immigrant, or just an all around bad violent person.  

IT's not that mental illness can't be a contributing factor, it's really about how, as a society, we often hear about mental illness contributing to a violent act to explain (or excuse)  crimes committed by white men.  

Yes, this was the real point behind what Sunny was saying and she should have just said it.

Also, Sara bringing Ted Bundy into the argument, which prompted Joy to repeat: Psychopath, was just not helpful. That argument is that to kill people you have to be mentally ill. Okay, but that is not what the law is based on. If you understand your actions and know them to be wrong (illegal), you cannot say you were mentally ill. So a sex addiction causing you to murder Asian women is not mental illness. It is mysogyny and racism.  See Elliot Rodger and Marc Lepine

 

[BuckeyeLou]

Andy Cohen needs to hire Megan for one of his Bravo shows....she is always So excited to talk about people like Coco(I've never seen the show, but have seen pics of her), saying Coco's body made her not feel ashamed about her body, and that Coco & IceT are her relationship goal(the other day she said it was Nick Offerman & Megan Mulally), somehow, I dont see her hubby, Ben, in the same category as Ice-T 🙂

[TheGreenKnight]

4 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

Sunny knows the facts - that it's only when white men kill that people come up with addiction, mental illness, autism, bad parenting, to explain the behavior.  

If a killer isn't white, it's due to gangs, drugs, being a terrorist, an immigrant, or just an all around bad violent person.  

IT's not that mental illness can't be a contributing factor, it's really about how, as a society, we often hear about mental illness contributing to a violent act to explain (or excuse)  crimes committed by white men.  

I agree, this is what was guiding Sunny's comments today. Tbh, I agree with Sara that there are probably degrees of a multitude of issues at play with criminals like this, like mental illness, poverty, isolation, poor education, etc. But I agree with Sunny's perspective that this is often an excuse by the media with White criminals, perhaps made unconsciously, which is why I couldn't blame her for wanting to focus on that even if Sara wasn't trying to excuse him. I think mental illness is a personal issue for Sara and the racist double standards of the media are a personal issue for Sunny. That's always going to cause a conflict. I didn't think there was any heat though; they were all talking with their inside voices.

[babyhouseman]

4 hours ago, Kromm said:

Law and Order SUV, says Whoopi. To be fair, I say that as well.

In her standup, Kathy Griffin talked about being on SVU and how her elderly mother called it SUV.

Ice T and Coco had a short-lived reality show, and it was surprisingly tolerable. They seemed like nice people, on TV anyway.

[tinkerbell]

2 hours ago, BuckeyeLou said:

Andy Cohen needs to hire Megan for one of his Bravo shows....she is always So excited to talk about people like Coco(I've never seen the show, but have seen pics of her), saying Coco's body made her not feel ashamed about her body, and that Coco & IceT are her relationship goal(the other day she said it was Nick Offerman & Megan Mulally), somehow, I dont see her hubby, Ben, in the same category as Ice-T 🙂

Holding up another couple as a "relationship goal"  means  -  "I wish our relationship was like theirs"  right?   or am I not understanding this phrase?  SO she looks at a couple who are actors in comedy shows, and another couple who have had a reality show, as what her marriage should be like?   There's something sad about that.  

[deirdra]

And having Coco-T & Ice-T as their "relationship goal" won't make Meghan & Ben any cooler.

[ifionlyknew]

25 minutes ago, tinkerbell said:

Holding up another couple as a "relationship goal"  means  -  "I wish our relationship was like theirs"  right?   or am I not understanding this phrase?  SO she looks at a couple who are actors in comedy shows, and another couple who have had a reality show, as what her marriage should be like?   There's something sad about that.  

Meghan wants to be part of a well known couple.  She wants the media to cover her and Ben.