2020 Squad and Social Media

[kalibean]

4 hours ago, Kamal said:

I think it's interesting how Kashara wasn't on showgroup until her third year when she became point. (It's kinda like Kat becoming point next year)

I started watching this show since last year so were a lot of people surprised that Kashara was chosen over other reliable/predictable vets like Lacey?

I don’t remember anyone being surprised it wasn’t Lacey - she’s pretty and reliable but lacks some of that punch and sparkle. But lots of shock that it was Kashara in the end, and reminders that she got rookie of the year.  Kashara is fun to watch, but it was 100% Jenna until she screwed up. I never pictured Erica or Kerstyn for point either.  (And I feel like we all missed Kashara as point when it ended up being Amy/Maddie. Like if we were baffled by Kashara, Kelli was like hold my beer.)

17 minutes ago, DCC-UK said:

I would've LOVED to see Holly P at point. She had a sparkle that very few DCC have had. Sure, she was very confident but she could sell any routine. Super clean and fun in the DCC style and spectacular in everything else!

I think Holly is such an excellent dancer, but I wouldn’t have liked her at point. Her facials bug the mess out of me. She was point for the hip hop routine and she sells it, but she had a combo of a stank and smug face for it that lost me. She throws in that extra like Gina does too. I’m trying to picture who would have made a clean point if Holly and Gina were the triangle. Lol. 

Edited April 19, 2021 by kalibean

[go4luca]

As far as Lacey being considered for point, she was definitely pretty enough and had the talent and DCC style.  But I never got the feeling she wanted it enough.

[Tuxcat]

Well aware that the following is SO UNPOPULAR.... 

For me, point should be about the girl that draws you in the most. I get Rachel W. for the photogenic thing but she really doesn't draw you in. Neither does Caroline. Not many of them do TBH. 

IMO Amanda has great facials and that "it" quality.

But here is where I will get yelled out... I know people don't like Marissa's look but when she's dancing with a group in prep classes my eye is on her.

And here is where you will evict me from this forum. You know who else draws me in? Kat. There I said it. She might not be dancing correctly, but she is making me watch her.

Edited April 19, 2021 by Tuxcat

[go4luca]

10 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Well aware that the following is SO UNPOPULAR.... 

For me, point should be about the girl that draws you in the most. I get Rachel W. for the photogenic thing but she really doesn't draw you in. Neither does Caroline. Not many of them do TBH. 

IMO Amanda has great facials and that "it" quality.

But here is where I will get yelled out... I know people don't like Marissa's look but when she's dancing with a group in prep classes my eye is on her.

And here is where you will evict me from this forum. You know who else draws me in? Kat. There I said it. She might not be dancing correctly, but she is making me watch her.

I highly doubt anyone is going to give you a "yelling out".

My problem with Marissa is well known.  I find her utterly ugly beyond belief and an absolute attention whore.  That's why I cannot get past any attempt to like her.  Her stringy hair, squinty eyes and Wallace & Grommet grimace face when she smiles big, instantly kill it for me.  I cannot wait for the day Marissa retires.

As for Kat, even though she's not my fav, she is incredibly beautiful with an über bubbly personality so I can see where that attracts fans.

I do agree Amanda has something special about her.  I hope they feature her more if she decides to stay another season.

Edited April 19, 2021 by go4luca

[Tuxcat]

4 minutes ago, go4luca said:

I highly doubt anyone is going to give you a "yelling out".

My problem with Marissa is well known.  I find her utterly ugly beyond belief and an absolute attention whore.  That's why I cannot get past any attempt to like her.  Her stringy hair, squinty eyes and Wallace & Grommet grimace face when she smiles big, instantly kill it for me.  I cannot wait for the day Marissa retires.

As for Kat, even though she's not my fav, she is incredibly beautiful with an über bubbly personality so I can see where that attracts fans.

I do agree Amanda has something special about her.  I hope they feature her more if she decides to stay another season.

Haha to be fair, I don't really like either one of them either. I am actually annoyed that my eye gets drawn to them. But they do have that quality.

Hmmm - do Attention whores = point?

[souR77]

1 hour ago, Tuxcat said:

But here is where I will get yelled out... I know people don't like Marissa's look but when she's dancing with a group in prep classes my eye is on her.

 

I agree with this with the dances I've watched her do but when I saw her in this, she was the shortest there. She reminded me of a DCC jr. My only issue is in most dances she does something different than the others in the dances. 

[Bigorangecatmom]

3 hours ago, DCC-UK said:

I would've LOVED to see Holly P at point. She had a sparkle that very few DCC have had. Sure, she was very confident but she could sell any routine. Super clean and fun in the DCC style and spectacular in everything else!

Holly P would have been brilliant. The dance skills of Gina with the facials and showmanship of Kashera. 

[Pau84]

1 hour ago, Tuxcat said:

Well aware that the following is SO UNPOPULAR.... 

For me, point should be about the girl that draws you in the most. I get Rachel W. for the photogenic thing but she really doesn't draw you in. Neither does Caroline. Not many of them do TBH. 

IMO Amanda has great facials and that "it" quality.

But here is where I will get yelled out... I know people don't like Marissa's look but when she's dancing with a group in prep classes my eye is on her.

And here is where you will evict me from this forum. You know who else draws me in? Kat. There I said it. She might not be dancing correctly, but she is making me watch her.

If liking Kat is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

Kat is 'Shock And Awe' on Lucchese cowboy boots and she is not even bad at dancing. No one is going to ask who she was when talking about former DCC's. When you see her, you remember her. Kat is what a DCC should look like. That's just on the looks-department. Her fun and charming personality has no match. Which current DCC could have answered the questions Kat got to answer during the DCC panel interviews?

I said it before and I say it again: Kat has got more glamour and charm in her little pinky than most DCC's in their entire bodies. Yes, I am on #TeamKat

I am also on #TeamAmanda!

[Kamal]

I would love Gina as point for her facial expressions. People say her mouth is open and her face is weird but I actually think her over the top expressions is what I like. I don't see much facial expressions from other point runner ups except for Amanda.

[Pksbena1]

4 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Haha to be fair, I don't really like either one of them either. I am actually annoyed that my eye gets drawn to them. But they do have that quality.

Hmmm - do Attention whores = point?

Well, in my opinion, the ‘perfect’ point girl was Nicole Hamilton...who I would never call an attention whore. She was the full package IMO.  She was pretty, had massive sex appeal, and was a powerful dancer! You couldn't help but be drawn to her when she danced. She never came across as a ‘look at me’ sort of girl. She just had all the ‘it’ factors! 

Edited April 20, 2021 by Pksbena1

[Lona]

3 hours ago, go4luca said:

I cannot wait for the day Marissa retires.

 

And takes the “Marauders” with her ... 😜

[Blue hues]

3 hours ago, lexie3248 said:

I agree with this with the dances I've watched her do but when I saw her in this, she was the shortest there. She reminded me of a DCC jr. My only issue is in most dances she does something different than the others in the dances. 

Well I guess Marissa and VK have something in common!  They dance to their own beat!

[go4luca]

3 hours ago, lexie3248 said:

My only issue is in most dances she does something different than the others in the dances. 

I've noticed this as well.  Not in a good way either.

[ClassicPegg]

7 hours ago, kalibean said:

I don’t remember anyone being surprised it wasn’t Lacey - she’s pretty and reliable but lacks some of that punch and sparkle. But lots of shock that it was Kashara in the end, and reminders that she got rookie of the year.  Kashara is fun to watch, but it was 100% Jenna until she screwed up. I never pictured Erica or Kerstyn for point either.  (And I feel like we all missed Kashara as point when it ended up being Amy/Maddie. Like if we were baffled by Kashara, Kelli was like hold my beer.)

 

LOL!!!

13 minutes ago, DCCOracle said:

I cannot "Like" this enough!

[Kamal]

McKenzie seems to be loved by the DCC staff (K&J). She is on a lot of DCC promotions. I like it. I also love that my girl Chandi is on promotions as well !!

 

[ClassicPegg]

4 hours ago, DCCOracle said:

 

Hmmmm.......which one of these is on ShowGroup??

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by ClassicPegg

[DCC-UK]

5 hours ago, DCCOracle said:

Wow, McKenzie is amazing! Bloody hell, that quintuple is nearly flawless (I'd only say a little more releve but it looks hard in those Laduca heels). I love her love for Broadway jazz and she's great in that style. I feel like we didn't get to see her much this season. If she can do other styles, she should be a shoo-in for show group. But SG already has a leggy blonde who can turn. Oh wait...

[Opine]

I am not often happy that K&J agree with me, but obviously they do re Gina!  I have nothing against the girl.  She seems supportive of her team mates.  I just don't think that face and the open mouth belong in the point position.  How many times have K&J told girls to replace an open mouth with a sweet smile?  I don't have a "must have" for point.  

They need to have Kash take the top 3 point hopefuls and teach them body language and facials.  Maybe Gina could be trained?  But I would still rather see Amber or Amanda or others I can't think of.

[vanillagum]

every time i see an example of a girl with incredible dance technique and training and realize it’s being used to shake pom poms, i’m really confused. why do they act like the training is utilized here

[sATL]

Off topic question - how do you get rid of the box on the right side of the thread? It is making the post smaller and too boxy..

[TB12]

18 hours ago, kalibean said:

I think Holly is such an excellent dancer, but I wouldn’t have liked her at point. Her facials bug the mess out of me. She was point for the hip hop routine and she sells it, but she had a combo of a stank and smug face for it that lost me. She throws in that extra like Gina does too. I’m trying to picture who would have made a clean point if Holly and Gina were the triangle. Lol. 

Could not agree more... yes Holly was a GREAT dancer but her smug, no one can touch me attitude was such a turn off, get over it girl you're a DCC top dog on a football cheer team that lost world class long ago that's why she was such a star and i also found her facials distracting and not fun...

[MeeMee2]

10 hours ago, DCCOracle said:

 I really like Makenzie. She stood out to me in TC. She's got the full DCC package. Beautiful, sexy, technical dancer, loved by team. I also like that she looks a bit more mature than the other rookies, but still looks fresh. I hope she sticks around and K&J are good to her. 

[ByTor]

16 hours ago, Pksbena1 said:

Well, in my opinion, the ‘perfect’ point girl was Nicole Hamilton...who I would never call an attention whore. She was the full package IMO.  She was pretty, had massive sex appeal, and was a powerful dancer! You couldn't help but be drawn to her when she danced. She never came across as a ‘look at me’ sort of girl. She just had all the ‘it’ factors! 

And here's where I expect to get tomatoes pelted at me, but I don't get the fuss about her at all. Her "extra" was just waaaaayyyy too extra, I find watching her very distracting.

[Kamal]

I'm team Amanda but I love a more senior vet for point so my dream point will be Gina and Amber sharing point with Ashlee and Rachel W by the side. I really don't care for Caroline.

[go4luca]

1 hour ago, Kamal said:

I'm team Amanda but I love a more senior vet for point so my dream point will be Gina and Amber sharing point with Ashlee and Rachel W by the side. I really don't care for Caroline.

Personally, I prefer which lady shines at point over seniority.  Otherwise they may as well have awarded Jinelle point.  As nice as a DCC rep as she seemed, I never could have seen her as point.

[MeeMee2]

34 minutes ago, go4luca said:

Personally, I prefer which lady shines at point over seniority.  Otherwise they may as well have awarded Jinelle point.  As nice as a DCC rep as she seemed, I never could have seen her as point.

This all day long. It's a dance team. Maybe just put the best dancer up there. Even if she's a 2nd year. If said girl was just that much of a rock star, why make her wait for at least 2 more years and possibly leave...yea..I'm still salty about Bridget.   I understand rewarding ladies for staying with the organization  and being good ambassadors..but that's how we end up with a Amy as point

Edited April 20, 2021 by MeeMee2

[Tuxcat]

3 hours ago, ByTor said:

And here's where I expect to get tomatoes pelted at me, but I don't get the fuss about her at all. Her "extra" was just waaaaayyyy too extra, I find watching her very distracting.

🍅

JK 😇

Edited April 20, 2021 by Tuxcat

[ByTor]

Just now, Tuxcat said:

🍅

[SunnyK]

6 hours ago, vanillagum said:

 

every time i see an example of a girl with incredible dance technique and training and realize it’s being used to shake pom poms, i’m really confused. why do they act like the training is utilized here

 

I always wondered the same thing. When K&J talk about a girl having tons of technical training, or lack thereof.. I always wonder does that really matter in a hard hitting pom style? I danced for several years and just don't really understand. I can see for certain positions, like when they passe in the kick line. But it's not as if they're going to be doing chaines & jetés across the field, and I can almost promise most people watching them will not care if their foot is pointed in those boots 🤣. Just my two cents.

[Tuxcat]

2 minutes ago, SunnyK said:

I always wondered the same thing. When K&J talk about a girl having tons of technical training, or lack thereof.. I always wonder does that really matter in a hard hitting pom style? I danced for several years and just don't really understand. I can see for certain positions, like when they passe in the kick line. But it's not as if they're going to be doing chaines & jetés across the field, and I can almost promise most people watching them will not care if their foot is pointed in those boots 🤣. Just my two cents.

Yes and this is why the show itself has changed over the years. Recall in the beginning, they were not all trained dancers and "training camp" was in fact a training period. It was actually fun back then to watch some of the less technically inclined learn the power pom style. Over the years, Kelli did hang on to this idea of shaping and molding an untrained girl - enter all her little pet projects. Good for TV.

Now, I don't agree with the world class moniker but it does seem that the majority of these girls today have a wide background in dance. So by nature of competing for a spot, the girl needs to have skills to compete (unless you are a pet).

To the dancers in the group, I can see the difference easily if I'm looking for it. You can still spot heavy dancing and flexed feet... - but I don't know that it matters that much to the general viewer? 

[vanillagum]

4 hours ago, SunnyK said:

I always wondered the same thing. When K&J talk about a girl having tons of technical training, or lack thereof.. I always wonder does that really matter in a hard hitting pom style? I danced for several years and just don't really understand. I can see for certain positions, like when they passe in the kick line. But it's not as if they're going to be doing chaines & jetés across the field, and I can almost promise most people watching them will not care if their foot is pointed in those boots 🤣. Just my two cents.

i think kelli and judy are deluded as to what being a DCC requires. i mean, a lifetime of dance to be an NFL cheerleader? really?

[RoxyMoron101]

Question, has a POC ever been the point? 

[scorpio1031]

5 minutes ago, RoxyMoron101 said:

Question, has a POC ever been the point? 

Nicole, Mia, Jenna sorta, kinda

[RoxyMoron101]

2 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Nicole, Mia, Jenna sorta, kinda

Cool, have only seen the past 3 seasons so I wasn't sure

 

[Lona]

3 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Jenna sorta, kinda

The perfect summary of Jenna’s reign as “point” 😂

[RedDelicious]

Plus Vonciel is the record holder for the most seasons (8).

[ClassicPegg]

2 minutes ago, RedDelicious said:

Plus Vonciel is the record holder for the most seasons (8).

For now...

[ByTor]

18 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Nicole, Mia, Jenna sorta, kinda

I also recall Jacie being point for Halloween halftime.

[TheGenuineBeauty]

14 hours ago, ClassicPegg said:

For now...

Why did I laugh so hard at this? Lol 🤣🤣🤣

[LilyD]

On 4/20/2021 at 8:57 PM, Tuxcat said:

To the dancers in the group, I can see the difference easily if I'm looking for it. You can still spot heavy dancing and flexed feet... - but I don't know that it matters that much to the general viewer? 

I don't know anything at all about dance... All I care about is being entertained. I am looking for a great show; dancers who are in sync, some amazing dance routines (don't care about the technical aspect) have fun and that extra sparkle that draws you in. 

Guess that explains why I liked Kashara so much... Some dance experts on here pointed out that she (sometimes?) lacked in technical skills which is something I cannot see.

And suddenly I had to think about Jenna too... I highly doubt that dance lessons on army bases and from a Korean lady who doesn't speak English count as professional training...yet she pulled it off every single time! I loved to see her dance!

[tteek74]

On 4/20/2021 at 1:48 PM, SunnyK said:

I always wondered the same thing. When K&J talk about a girl having tons of technical training, or lack thereof.. I always wonder does that really matter in a hard hitting pom style? I danced for several years and just don't really understand. I can see for certain positions, like when they passe in the kick line. But it's not as if they're going to be doing chaines & jetés across the field, and I can almost promise most people watching them will not care if their foot is pointed in those boots 🤣. Just my two cents.

Most people will be saying, “what foot? What boot?” 🤣🤣
 

I almost tried out in my prime (late 90s) because a DCC came to talk to our drill team. I was seeing blue and silver. I went to college and became a teacher and just never made the time, but I still love to dance. If I tried out today, I’d be a “bless her heart,she’s living in the past” person. 
 

 

[SMP637]

I am LOVING Gina at point!  Waaaay overdue.  She's so fun to watch.  Get rid of Rachel W (no offense,  she dances fine but she always looks so bored) and give me Amanda, Amber,  or Ashlee as the co-point.

Lexie, Chandi, and Rachel A were killing it in that clip.  K&J need to stop sleeping on Rachel A.... she's a powerhouse!!  

One last thing....

#TeamKat.... that is all.

[TUOwl84]

On 4/19/2021 at 1:45 AM, DCCdoll said:

That’s def Lexie not vk lol. Poor vk, everyone assumes it’s her lol

No VK is in the center back. Lexie is up front. Definitely VK. 

[mizzhyer]

On 4/17/2021 at 11:40 PM, Kamal said:

I like Gina as point than Rachel W. When Gina dances you can see (feel) her facial expressions changing from far but I can only see a pretty face from Rachel W.

I still don't understand why Amy got point out of seniority but Gina didn't get point last year as a a fourth year. Rachel W is photogenic but Gina has more power and she was a fourth year. I'm not saying choosing point out of seniority is good but if there are two girls equally as powerful it should go to the senior.

Is it possible that Gina was recovering from a small injury this year and lost point to Rachel because of that ? That would make since for her to come back next year because if that wasn't the case losing point to a pretty face would be shocking and if I were her I'll retire.

I find Rachel W. boring to watch bc she has zero life to her face ... as pretty as it is...she has major yawn factor. 🧐

[M1977G]

On 4/19/2021 at 2:27 PM, kalibean said:

And I feel like we all missed Kashara as point when it ended up being Amy/Maddie. Like if we were baffled by Kashara, Kelli was like hold my beer.

Hahaha, yes! Though I really liked Kashara at point, this is the post of posts to me. I'm a broken record about this, but I could not stand the Amy/Maddie point combo and they are two of my top three my least favorite DCC of my whole MTT career (watching since season 3--alongside Paige--but Maddie is by far the one who just rubs me the wrong way every which way possible). I wonder how Lexie feels about her slight demotion in the triangle? She is not the most technical dancer but she does have good pop and power in that DCC way. I would be very happy to see a Gina/Rachel point situation or really anyone over a Maddie point this year. I'm a little fascinated at how much I do not like her as point and how strongly I feel about her. But, there you go, and as they say, Bob's your uncle.

Edited April 23, 2021 by M1977G

[vanillagum]

1 hour ago, M1977G said:

alongside Paige

omg why do you dislike paige so strongly? lol

[Raffthelaugh]

First time poster in this thread- hope I'm doing this right. I started watching MTT this year since we were spending a lot more time at home (; I have a lot of experience performing and have danced with some of the choreographers that they bring in so I was excited to watch for the dance/performance aspect. 

I keep seeing all the Amanda love and I have to say- other than her looks I just don't get it. We keep cracking up at the gif of VK stepping out on a pom at auditions and while it is hilarious, there is a DCC motion video (which is pre-choreographed, rehearsed, and has the opportunity for multiple takes) of Amanda barely being able to complete a double turn and half-performing every skill attempted other than the Meredith magic fingers . Every time they compliment her on the show, they show her posing or making cute faces while they (wisely)  never show her dancing. I had to search multiple times for actual footage of her dancing and she's just not that good. Not to mention her kicks are low and her jump split is probably the worst on the team. I also find it to be pretty clear she's only there to be on TV til she books some other gig.

Wow- didn't intend to go in on her this way, just started typing and I guess it all came out lol. Someone please let me know what I am not seeing with her though!

Edited April 23, 2021 by Raffthelaugh

[M1977G]

16 hours ago, vanillagum said:

omg why do you dislike paige so strongly? lol

I don't even have a solid reason, tbh. I just never liked her looks, and then there was never anything I saw of her personality or dancing that overrode my feeling that she didn't look like a DCC to me. (I get it that she wasn't featured much on the show, so I just didn't have much to go on, so this is a totally superficial, albeit longstanding, attitude on my part!)

Edited April 23, 2021 by M1977G

[ByTor]

35 minutes ago, M1977G said:

I don't even have a solid reason, tbh. I just never liked her looks, and then there was never anything I saw of her personality or dancing that overrode my feeling that she didn't look like a DCC to me. (I get it that she wasn't featured much on the show, so I just didn't have much to go on, so this is a totally superficial, albeit longstanding, attitude on my part!)

When I think of Paige, I think of a makeover for the sake of a makeover (which they claim they don't do). Oh look, she has curl! There's something sassy about her! So they proceed to give her...an old-lady 'do. And before you can say "we have a team," she was back to straight.

[vanillagum]

1 minute ago, ByTor said:

When I think of Paige, I think of a makeover for the sake of a makeover (which they claim they don't do). Oh look, she has curl! There's something sassy about her! So they proceed to give her...an old-lady 'do. And before you can say "we have a team," she was back to straight.

it cracks me up because they did the exact same thing with tess. 'omg your natural curl!' 

the next day: back to regular dcc straight hair with loose waves