S08.E02: There's No Crying in Yachting

[TexasGal]

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The sudden departure of one of his teammates leaves Shane struggling to adapt to the unforeseen responsibilities on deck. Coming off her clash with Francesca, Izzy begins to question if the interior satisfies her dream of being at sea. While dealing with demanding guests, Rachel lets her emotions get the best of her, and Francesca loses her composure in front of Captain Lee. Meanwhile, James gets caught in the middle of an explosive guest argument.

Airdate 11.09.2020

[AnnieBananie]

Izzy phrased her request wrong. She should have said, "Captain, if it's easier for you to find a stew rather than a deckhand, I'd be happy to move to the exterior." That way she'd look like a team player rather than a complainer.

[pieinmyeye]

High maintenance charter guests is an understatement! I cannot stand this primary!!! I understand he’s paying a lot of money for this charter, but his demands and snide remarks are ridiculous!

[Mr. Miner]

Would it kill Bravo to film this primary being fed to the sharks? 🦈

[PaperTree]

Well, we've had lots of crying so far  🙂 

What a mess!

[tabloidlover]

31 minutes ago, AnnieBananie said:

Izzy phrased her request wrong. She should have said, "Captain, if it's easier for you to find a stew rather than a deckhand, I'd be happy to move to the exterior." That way she'd look like a team player rather than a complainer.

Seriously!   How to get your way through the power of suggestion is a lost art form. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Edited November 10, 2020 by tabloidlover

[TexasGal]

Unless I missed it, Rachel set herself up for being a short order cook by not having options options options already set up for breakfast.  Fruit plate, bacon, pastries etc.  I mean, they would have still probably been a pain in the butt but they would have had something to eat on to take some of the pressure off. 

[PaperTree]

Cat fight over James.  Hilarious!

Lee was so cool talking to Eddie about Izzy.

[65mickey]

So what did these women think that James was going to have a fling with them? Where do they find these guests? They are disgusting assholes. No amount of money could make me work or a yacht with guests like these. I think I would have quit on the first day. 

[pieinmyeye]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

Would it kill Bravo to film this primary being fed to the sharks? 🦈

Or loose him at sea. Perhaps hold his head under the water until you can’t see the bubbles? Nah, he’s not worth doing time for.

I don’t care if he’s paying a million dollars for this charter, I think some things, such as breakfast, should have limits.  Make up a menu of four or five eggs  dishescooked the way you want the  or egg dishes, Omlets with a limit of ingredients, etc. 

I can’t believe I just went on a rant about breakfast on a boat that I have 99.9% of ever being on. I think the last week has fried what brain cells I have left.

[PaperTree]

5 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

No amount of money could make me work or a yacht with guests like these. I think I would have quit on the first day

Seriously.  At least none of them would want to see me in a speedo 🙂 

[pieinmyeye]

I can’t believe chief stew sent Izzy, who moves at the speed of a sloth, to do the beach picnic. ???

Oops. Spoke too soon! Good for you, Izzie!

Edited November 10, 2020 by pieinmyeye

[Lamima]

When Rachel dropped a bunch of pans on the floor I noticed one was a smaller omelet sized pan. 

[CSunshine76]

39 minutes ago, TexasGal said:

Unless I missed it, Rachel set herself up for being a short order cook by not having options options options already set up for breakfast.  Fruit plate, bacon, pastries etc.  I mean, they would have still probably been a pain in the butt but they would have had something to eat on to take some of the pressure off. 

Agreed, why didn’t she send out some breakfast food and then do only eggs made to order? If you don’t limit people, they are going to ask for everything under the sun, as witnessed by this bunch of yahoos.

[PaperTree]

8 minutes ago, Lamima said:

When Rachel dropped a bunch of pans on the floor I noticed one was a smaller omelet sized pan. 

I saw that too!  🙂 

[endure]

Why is Captain Lee always being filmed half naked?

[biakbiak]

43 minutes ago, endure said:

Why is Captain Lee always being filmed half naked?

Bravo thinks people love that look from the “stud of the sea”.

[Jack Sampson]

Two things that sickitate me. 

Ending sentences with an extra syllable - Oh my God-da!   

Ending sentences with "Right now" - Are you kidding me Right Now?

I guess they're the replacements for upspeak and vocal fry.

 

[Chatty Cake]

Why was that big oaf of a primary allowed to run about the yacht harassing the stews?
I don’t mind the chef but she needs to get her workspace in order. Too many special requests.

The two guests fighting over a deckhand. If that were two men fighting over a stew, I would think people would be outraged. Plus the guy is good looking but seems like a tool. 

[tvfanatic13]

Well, this season is a dud so far. I do not like not-Kate. Something about Rachel irks me. The deck crew (sans Eddie) and the stews all suck. The primary is unwatchable and gives gay men a bad name. I did not understand the fight at all. Oh well. 

[dleighg]

The chef looks so familiar to me. I wondered if she'd ever appeared (briefly) on Top Chef or Chopped, etc. Turns out I may have possibly seen her on America's Top Model, LOL.

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Below Deck is not Hargrove’s first brush with reality TV. The chef briefly appeared on Cycle 4, Episode 1 of America’s Next Top Model, auditioning for Tyra Banks in “The Girl Who Is A Lady Kat.”

 

[dleighg]

I mean, I dislike bell peppers, but in that situation I would just pull them out and mention it quietly to the stew. No way I'd ask it to be redone when everyone is requesting a hundred different things. They are ordering like it's a diner with 8 fry cooks back there!

[dsteele]

3 hours ago, Jack Sampson said:

Ending sentences with an extra syllable - Oh my God-da!

Drives me up a wall. Every time I hear someone say "No-uh!" it makes me think of an ark.

[howiveaddict]

12 minutes ago, dleighg said:

I mean, I dislike bell peppers, but in that situation I would just pull them out and mention it quietly to the stew. No way I'd ask it to be redone when everyone is requesting a hundred different things. They are ordering like it's a diner with 8 fry cooks back there!

Hubby likes peppers.  I don’t. I just pull them out.  Agree she should have a planned breakfast menu.  These guests would have asked for something different, though. 

[TVWOPrefuge]

Is it wrong of me that I took pleasure when they showed the blonde taking her fake hair out while on the beach?

 

[dleighg]

With these multicourse dinners, it seems like a lot is passing the vegan by. Eggplant PARMIGIANA? Crab Legs? CARNE with chimichurri? I keep wondering what the vegan is eating when these platters come out. I mean, I'm an omnivore and the food looks nice, but I can't helping noticing.

[dleighg]

1 hour ago, tvfanatic13 said:

I did not understand the fight at all.

Me neither. It seemed like one of those things when over-imbibed people get in a tizzy about being "disrespected" and can't let it go.

[SevenCostanza]

A couple of things I didn't understand.  During service why was the 2nd stew only serving drinks, why didn't she help with the food too?  It seemed like they kept waiting for Rachel (?) to serve every course. 

If Izzy hates the interior so much why did she even apply for the position? 

That kid Shane bugs the crap out of me.  He acts like he's on his own personal vacation. 

The chef seems really good but she's only one person, those obnoxious guests don't seem to understand that.  I wonder if they were told to act extra entitled by production.  I can't believe that woman freaking out over the deckhand because she liked him first.  Grow the fuck up.

 

[65mickey]

I think more and more the guests are told by production to come on board and act crazy and demanding to amp up the drama. Get the chief stew and the chef crying on the first charter. The 2 women fighting over James and who liked him first reminds me of a few seasons ago when a couple of drunk middle aged women were fighting over Captain Lee. I so wish that somone would look these women in the face and say these people are here to earn good tips and they have no interest in you at all. Get a little self respect. 

[Lassus]

I really don't watch this show to endure people being incompetent and miserable and stressed ALL THE TIME.  I get enough of that in my own life.  And this is BEFORE the COVID has hit. 

I mean, seriously, Bravo,  I get life isn't all rainbows and lollypops but I also don't need it to be Civil War journals reconstructed by Jean-Paul Sartre and read by Leonard Cohen either.

Edited November 10, 2020 by Lassus

[Lassus]

I probably missed something out of irritation, but were those women really fighting over James?  I know that's assumed but it just seemed to me like they were fighting (if they even were) over whatever, not James.

[njbchlover]

These charter guests are beyond extra, and beyond high maintenance.  If they were told by production to amp up the demands and act like stupid, spoiled children, then they are excellent at following directions, but something tells me that they are somewhat like that in real life, otherwise, that behavior would either have them laughing at themselves or cringing.

The primary, under the guise of "helping", just made himself look more annoying, if that is possible.  I wonder, if the chef was a man, would he have been so quick to enter the galley and start plating and disturbing things.  And, that leads me to my next comment.

The sexism has just got to stop!!!  James, I guess, is a team player, and didn't mind doing what was requested (also, knowing that if he didn't do it, that would reflect in their tip).  BUT - if this was reversed and one of the guests requested that one of the female members of the crew strip down to a g-string and let some guy do a body shot, there would have been a huge backlash.  I'm tired of the reverse sexism with women thinking that it is okay to act in a way that they would NEVER want to be acted upon.  It is one thing to discuss looks and likes about crew members among guests, it is another thing to be blatantly sexist toward another person, regardless of gender.  

And, this stupid "fight" over James???  Are they in freakin' jr. high?  So, one guest makes a few double-entendre comments to James and then, she gets mad because the primaries decide that the birthday girl should get James as a "present"??  So, because she was "interested", the birthday girl and the primaries were supposed to bow down to her crushing on James?  James gave the birthday girl a ride on a waverunner, per the primary's request - he didn't sail off on a sunset cruise for two with the birthday girl.  Did the other guest think she was going to get a quick hook-up during her trip?  Grow up and get over it.  In another day, you will be off the ship and forgotten - unless, of course, you give a shitty tip.  She was acting like a petulant child over all of this.  Although, the fighting over James really did give me a chuckle or two over it's total ridiculousness.

James also did the body shot thing at the primary's request.  The primaries (Charley and his boytoy friend) pushed boundaries with all of this and it really frustrated me.  

I get that the crew is there to serve at the guests' requests and provide them with a steallar, once in a lifetime experience (well, in Charley's case, it's thrice in a lifetime), but I don't like seeing everyone run ragged with outrageous demands (like that breakfast order and the constant need for someone to basically read minds about when someone wants something to eat or another cocktail), and treated disrespectfully or "less than".

The one other thing that I thought was funny was Eddie calling Shane "Sunshine" to Captain Lee.  If anyone else remembers, I think that is a "Remember the Titans" reference, and I got a big kick out of it.  

Curious to see who the new stew or deck crew member will be.  I would imagine it will be a previous cast member.

One last thing - I like that Captain Lee let Francesca get her frustration out of her system, gave her sound, professional advice and sent her on her way.  No hugs, no b.s. - just - "Figure it out".  

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by njbchlover

[Snickerdoodle]

13 hours ago, 65mickey said:

So what did these women think that James was going to have a fling with them? Where do they find these guests? They are disgusting assholes. No amount of money could make me work or a yacht with guests like these. I think I would have quit on the first day. 

It just reminded me of being a teeny-bopper and fighting with my friends over who was going to marry Joey McIntyre from New Kids on the Block.    As Laura from S6 said, they need to check themselves.  SMH.

I hope someone pulls Shane aside and gives him a clear description of what he is supposed to be doing.  He obviously doesn't understand his role. 

I understand Francesca's breakdown...I think she feels the need to do everything herself because she doesn't trust the other stews at this point.  However, it's making her crazy.  I hope she is a better manager as the season goes on.

Charley, the primary is an ass.  I didn't like him the other times he was on the show either.  And his charter is going to be on a third episode?!?!?!  Enough already! 

The whole team seems very disorganized.  I hope Lee sees this and straightens them out. 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Snickerdoodle

[dleighg]

12 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

The sexism has just got to stop!!!  James, I guess, is a team player, and didn't mind doing what was requested (also, knowing that if he didn't do it, that would reflect in their tip). 

Yeah, so the primary says "only if he wants to." And while I appreciate Eddie saying "you have an absolute right to say no," once James agrees, he gets a cheer and a "way to be a team player!" So all of us, including James, knows how he's supposed to answer. It didn't seem like he hated it, but I bet he also felt pretty uncomfortable standing there with his dangly bits on display in sparkling lycra. It was JUST PLAIN WRONG to put James in this position to begin with.

[PaperTree]

3 hours ago, dleighg said:

I mean, I dislike bell peppers, but in that situation I would just pull them out and mention it quietly to the stew.

It's not hard.  I pick out small things I don't like all the time.  It's not like it was the center of the dish.

eta:  "sunshine" Shane really seemed to get it on WWHL and admitted how wrong he was.  Very unusual.

Edited November 10, 2020 by PaperTree

[Baltimore Betty]

32 minutes ago, Snickerdoodle said:

The whole team seems very disorganized. 

I think they will be fine (the interior) they just need to get in to their rhythm, the chef seems like she can wow the guests but service and timing or lack of can make her food go down a notch or two.  It seems like they did not get very much prep time before the first charter, is that a normal amount of time between charters or seasons?

Production knew what they were doing when they brought Charley and guests on for the first charter.  I can see the primary asking the stews to unpack for them but the guests too?  That just seemed so extra.

As far as the constant need for espresso martinis would make an experienced stew make a batch of espresso, enough for at least 6 because you know they will want back to back drinks.

I could go a whole season without seeing a crew member in a sparkly Speedo but here we are, first episode in. 

[dleighg]

13 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

I can see the primary asking the stews to unpack for them but the guests too?  That just seemed so extra.

totally. Why anyone would want someone else handling their underwear is beyond me to begin with. They only have three stews! To ask one of them to spend that much time unpacking so many clothes is WHY a lot of other stuff was getting dropped through the cracks.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, Snickerdoodle said:

It just reminded me of being a teeny-bopper and fighting with my friends over who was going to marry Joey McIntyre from New Kids on the Block.    As Laura from S6 said, they need to check themselves.  SMH.

I hope someone pulls Shane aside and gives him a clear description of what he is supposed to be doing.  He obviously doesn't understand his role. 

I understand Francesca's breakdown...I think she feels the need to do everything herself because she doesn't trust the other stews at this point.  However, it's making her crazy.  I hope she is a better manager as the season goes on.

Charley, the primary is an ass.  I didn't like him the other times he was on the show either.  And his charter is going to be on a third episode?!?!?!  Enough already! 

The whole team seems very disorganized.  I hope Lee sees this and straightens them out. 

I started getting some serious Danny (from BDM, Season 1) vibes from Shane with the whole assisting with cocktail service.

And, how ridiculous that these guests insisted on having a matching international cocktail for each course.  Again, just soooo freakin' extra!  

[njbchlover]

27 minutes ago, dleighg said:

totally. Why anyone would want someone else handling their underwear is beyond me to begin with. They only have three stews! To ask one of them to spend that much time unpacking so many clothes is WHY a lot of other stuff was getting dropped through the cracks.

I didn't understand the whole unpacking for all the guests, either, and it did lead to delays and more important things being left to the wayside.

But, Charley and his boyfriend looked like complete slobs - their stateroom was a mess!  (Again, if this is producer driven, you are just making yourselves look sooo stupid and inconsiderate on national TV!)

If these people actually had maids and butlers to do this for them at home, it would be understandable and expected, but I don't think that's the case. 

We've been to a few resorts that included butler service, and although asked, we never took them up on the offer of unpacking.  Maybe ironing and steaming some garments, but not unpacking.  

 

[dleighg]

12 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

And, how ridiculous that these guests insisted on having a matching international cocktail for each course.  Again, just soooo freakin' extra!  

and somehow I doubt that the cocktail was crafted to actually pair with the dish-- showing that they are just low brow posers.

[Guy Incognito]

Can we talk about the MASSIVE bin full of giant cucumbers they keep showing in the Galley?  I mean, what exactly are all those cucumbers for?  There has to be at least 50 of them and I have yet to see one being used for anything.  Since they get new provisions for each Charter, why in the world would you need a bin full of 50 extra large cucumbers?

[biakbiak]

5 hours ago, 65mickey said:

think more and more the guests are told by production to come on board and act crazy and demanding to amp up the drama.

The main charter guest is all over several Facebook groups saying they weren’t told to do anything by production and they were lovely and not high maintenance just expecting first class service and it’s just all editing! Though he is clearly a liar so who knows. 

Edited November 10, 2020 by biakbiak

[NannyBails]

I also have a big problem with the harassment of employees - men or women.   I've had many service jobs before (retail, restaurant, office) and luckily I've had bosses that stood up for me and didn't allow customers to talk to me in an unprofessional way, much less touch me inappropriately, etc.

If i were the stew, I would have cried, too, just from being overwhelmed.  That was a lot of guests, and they were all high maintenance.  And her two stews were shown to be rather incompetent.    I don't remember hearing her complain about them to Capt. Lee ... just said she needed more people.  And he said there were no more beds. 

I don't understand why the yacht staff are brought on board at the absolute last minute and everything is so hurried; it seems like they should bring them in a day or two earlier to make sure everything is up to snuff, provisions are stored the way the staff want them, etc.

 

 

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, biakbiak said:

The main charter guest is all over several Facebook groups saying they weren’t told to do anything by production and they were lovely and not high maintenance just expecting first class service and it’s just all editing! Though he is clearly a liar so who knows. 

I know - I've seen him in a couple of FB groups, as well.  And, I agree about him being a liar about being high-maintenance.  Unless, of course, he actually doesn't think they were - if that's the case, then he's just delusional.

[heatherchandler]

8 hours ago, dleighg said:

The chef looks so familiar to me. I wondered if she'd ever appeared (briefly) on Top Chef or Chopped, etc. Turns out I may have possibly seen her on America's Top Model, LOL.

 

She looks really familiar to me too.  I don't think I remember her from ANTM. 

[Baltimore Betty]

4 hours ago, dleighg said:

totally. Why anyone would want someone else handling their underwear is beyond me to begin with. They only have three stews! To ask one of them to spend that much time unpacking so many clothes is WHY a lot of other stuff was getting dropped through the cracks.

Also, will they be asking the stews to repack them? It is only a three day cruise, that stew would never leave the cabins!

The stews unpacking my dainties...that is a no.

[Baltimore Betty]

3 hours ago, njbchlover said:

And, how ridiculous that these guests insisted on having a matching international cocktail for each course.  Again, just soooo freakin' extra!  

They probably wouldn't know what wine went with what food, they seem more like the type that as long as whatever drink is served with each course is mostly made up of booze.  The mixed a lot of different types of booze, I don't think I could drink the booze blend and be upright very long.

 

[Jsage]

5 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Curious to see who the new stew or deck crew member will be.  I would imagine it will be a previous cast member.

I really hope it's someone we know. It's so good to have Eddie back, but without Kate, we really need another familiar face. It's hard to invest in this new crew, especially Shane and Izzy!

 

[biakbiak]

12 minutes ago, Jsage said:

I really hope it's someone we know. It's so good to have Eddie back, but without Kate, we really need another familiar face. It's hard to invest in this new crew, especially Shane and Izzy!

 

Usually if it’s someone we know they tease that in the preview by showing part of them and some reaction from the crew.

[Caseysgirl]

Agreeing that I don’t find high maintenance people entertaining to watch & it’s particularly distressing to watch the way they are so dismissive of everything being done for them.  Am I just angry at the 1% or do I just not want to spend MY downtime watching this?