MAFS Social Media, Spoilers & Speculation

[StatisticalOutlier]

20 hours ago, cinsays said:

I think Alyssa and Brett Ryan are likely also on the same political side, so I guess, for her, their core values match. 

I think Alyssa was repelled by Chris's looks from the beginning, and for reasons I can completely understand didn't just say, "I'm repelled by his looks."  And also for reasons I can completely understand, didn't know how to backtrack and later say, "I was repelled by his looks."  Kind of like how George Costanza digs a hole and can't get out.

Then it turns out they're on opposite sides politically.  I've had relationships in the past where we didn't align perfectly on political matters but that was in the olden days when there were nuances.  I couldn't do it today.

Add into this the fact that this is an arranged marriage, and not for the reasons some cultures have arranged marriages.  It's an arranged marriage for an audience's entertainment, which means there's zero reason for someone to fight for it.  That's what drives me crazy about the experts, especially Cal. 

I think he truly believes that these bogus marriages have the same underpinnings as a marriage based on a relationship, or even an arranged marriage due to culture.  In both of those cases, people are invested in either the person they're marrying or the culture they're part of, and it affects how they act.  But with MAFS, there's nothing for them to be invested in other than an experiment for the experiment's sake, or worse, an experiment that exists only for a TV show.  So it really grates when he exhorts them to work on their marriage as if it had any of the roots that non-MAFS marriages have.

These "marriages" are nothing more than a blind date on steroids, and Alyssa treated it as exactly that.  I believe she was trying to avoid hurting Chris's feelings and didn't have the option of having a friend call with an emergency as an excuse to leave.  I really do think she felt trapped and maybe it would have been better for her to admit she didn't like his looks from the start, but that definitely would have hurt Chris's feelings.  It might have been better in the long run, but there are plenty of us George Costanzas out there who have a knack for mishandling situations like this.

And don't forget that even Chris's friends were warning her at the reception that he has a habit of being condescending.  So she's now married to a guy she's not attracted to, whose friends acknowledge is condescending.  Yikes.

And then when it turned out Alyssa and Chris weren't going to align politically, she reasonably didn't see any reason to work to overcome that, unlike if something like that came up with someone she'd been seeing (and liking) for a little bit.  And I can see her not wanting to air the political angle in public.  Maybe she's kicking it old school where she wants to be able to be friends with people (like the other couples) even if they have differences.  I miss those days.

So you have a situation where she's not attracted to the person she's matched with, doesn't want to tell him she's not attracted to him and everything goes sideways because of it, and then she finds out there's a core incompatibility that would be problematic even in a "real" relationship where there's an attraction or a cultural imperative.  And all of it plays out with cameras in her face, and producers all around. 

And now that I think about it, every time she said, "I'm a good person," I wonder if she's thinking, "This all happened because I didn't want to hurt someone's feelings."  That would track.  It wouldn't acknowledge everything else that happened, but it's not like she's just pulling it out of nowhere.

[cinsays]

46 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I think Alyssa was repelled by Chris's looks from the beginning, and for reasons I can completely understand didn't just say, "I'm repelled by his looks."  And also for reasons I can completely understand, didn't know how to backtrack and later say, "I was repelled by his looks."  Kind of like how George Costanza digs a hole and can't get out.

Then it turns out they're on opposite sides politically.  I've had relationships in the past where we didn't align perfectly on political matters but that was in the olden days when there were nuances.  I couldn't do it today.

Add into this the fact that this is an arranged marriage, and not for the reasons some cultures have arranged marriages.  It's an arranged marriage for an audience's entertainment, which means there's zero reason for someone to fight for it.  That's what drives me crazy about the experts, especially Cal. 

I think he truly believes that these bogus marriages have the same underpinnings as a marriage based on a relationship, or even an arranged marriage due to culture.  In both of those cases, people are invested in either the person they're marrying or the culture they're part of, and it affects how they act.  But with MAFS, there's nothing for them to be invested in other than an experiment for the experiment's sake, or worse, an experiment that exists only for a TV show.  So it really grates when he exhorts them to work on their marriage as if it had any of the roots that non-MAFS marriages have.

These "marriages" are nothing more than a blind date on steroids, and Alyssa treated it as exactly that.  I believe she was trying to avoid hurting Chris's feelings and didn't have the option of having a friend call with an emergency as an excuse to leave.  I really do think she felt trapped and maybe it would have been better for her to admit she didn't like his looks from the start, but that definitely would have hurt Chris's feelings.  It might have been better in the long run, but there are plenty of us George Costanzas out there who have a knack for mishandling situations like this.

And don't forget that even Chris's friends were warning her at the reception that he has a habit of being condescending.  So she's now married to a guy she's not attracted to, whose friends acknowledge is condescending.  Yikes.

And then when it turned out Alyssa and Chris weren't going to align politically, she reasonably didn't see any reason to work to overcome that, unlike if something like that came up with someone she'd been seeing (and liking) for a little bit.  And I can see her not wanting to air the political angle in public.  Maybe she's kicking it old school where she wants to be able to be friends with people (like the other couples) even if they have differences.  I miss those days.

So you have a situation where she's not attracted to the person she's matched with, doesn't want to tell him she's not attracted to him and everything goes sideways because of it, and then she finds out there's a core incompatibility that would be problematic even in a "real" relationship where there's an attraction or a cultural imperative.  And all of it plays out with cameras in her face, and producers all around. 

And now that I think about it, every time she said, "I'm a good person," I wonder if she's thinking, "This all happened because I didn't want to hurt someone's feelings."  That would track.  It wouldn't acknowledge everything else that happened, but it's not like she's just pulling it out of nowhere.

i don't see any evidence that Alyssa didn't want to hurt Chris' feelings.  She was mean and nasty to him from the start.  Didn't want to sit with him when they were on some bench in the hallway (by an elevator bank?).

I can't imagine that they had any kind of political discussion or really much of any discussion on core values at the reception that had her immediately not willing to even be in the same room with him. 

I wonder what kind of conversation Chris has had since the wedding with his "friends" that told her he was condescending.  Who does that? some friends

[mythoughtis]

The clip I saw of Chris’s friends showed them telling her that ‘ he could come off as appearing condescending’.   While they also told her ‘ he was extremely smart’.  I  got the impression that  they did  not believe him to actually BE condescending and were  asking her to understand that.  She  just chose to take  it that way because she was searching for an out and  she’s not particularly articulate, also possibly not too bright 

[cinsays]

3 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

The clip I saw of Chris’s friends showed them telling her that ‘ he could come off as appearing condescending’.   While they also told her ‘ he was extremely smart’.  I  got the impression that  they did  not believe him to actually BE condescending and were  asking her to understand that.  She  just chose to take  it that way because she was searching for an out and  she’s not particularly articulate, also possibly not too bright 

yeah, maybe so but why even say something like that?  why not just tell her some good things about him?  

[Elizzikra]

23 minutes ago, cinsays said:

yeah, maybe so but why even say something like that?  why not just tell her some good things about him?  

I thought she asked them what to watch out for or what she needed to know about him; some sort of question that implied she wasn't looking for the good things about him.

[cinsays]

3 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

I thought she asked them what to watch out for or what she needed to know about him; some sort of question that implied she wasn't looking for the good things about him.

yeah, because she had already dismissed him based on his looks, so she was looking for the dirt on him.

doesn't mean his friends had to tell her.

they could have answered like you do at an interview when they ask you what your weak point is and you answer that you tend to put in extra hours to get it done right, no really a negative

[Kiss my mutt]

As far as looks go, I think Ryan and Chris are on the same playing field to me. YMMV

[qtpye]

32 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

As far as looks go, I think Ryan and Chris are on the same playing field to me. YMMV

To Alyssa, Ryan is the cowboy that she always wanted.

[Crashcourse]

41 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

As far as looks go, I think Ryan and Chris are on the same playing field to me. YMMV

I agree, they're running at about the same speed, but I like looking at Chris because I think he has a friendlier face.  Ryan always had this dead eyed look that kind of left me cold.

[gingerandcloves]

2 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I agree, they're running at about the same speed, but I like looking at Chris because I think he has a friendlier face.  Ryan always had this dead eyed look that kind of left me cold.

I agree, Ryan was always so stone-faced and never smiled. I really don't think he's any better looking than Chris, and may be less personable even, but to each her own.

I happened to be checking Olivia's instagram and while she doesn't have any current MAFS info, I saw that she started a true crime podcast recently called Check the Locks. I may give it a listen if I can find the time, since I love true crime.

I didn't really care for Olivia back on her season because she came across as someone that wanted a spouse to fit into her life without her having to make any adjustments. Judging by her IG, she definitely likes to travel, we'll see how well that fits into Chris's lifestyle.

[princelina]

10 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

So you have a situation where she's not attracted to the person she's matched with, doesn't want to tell him she's not attracted to him and everything goes sideways because of it, and then she finds out there's a core incompatibility that would be problematic even in a "real" relationship where there's an attraction or a cultural imperative.  And all of it plays out with cameras in her face, and producers all around. 

And now that I think about it, every time she said, "I'm a good person," I wonder if she's thinking, "This all happened because I didn't want to hurt someone's feelings."  That would track.  It wouldn't acknowledge everything else that happened, but it's not like she's just pulling it out of nowhere.

I do think that she doesn't want to hurt Chris' feelings by telling him she thinks he's ugly/has bad teeth/not good enough for her/etc.  No matter how the "experts" prod and push she just ain't doing it!  But she can't seem to understand that the reason she is "not a good person" is because she DID call him a loser/someone she feels "unsafe" with/someone she "hated" on tv.  She implied/stated that he was a mean, nasty, untrustworthy man.  She does not understand that that is a worse thing to say than that she found him unattractive.

Since I will never believe that anyone who goes on a reality tv show at this late date hasn't watched the show - she would have known that she could go to the room, tell him (on or off camera!) they weren't having sex, or making out, or sleeping in the same bed, with no repercussions, and have a private conversation with him.  She chose instead to act on tv like she was afraid for her safety with him.  That's what makes her the asshole.

[Yeah No]

9 hours ago, cinsays said:

yeah, because she had already dismissed him based on his looks, so she was looking for the dirt on him.

doesn't mean his friends had to tell her.

they could have answered like you do at an interview when they ask you what your weak point is and you answer that you tend to put in extra hours to get it done right, no really a negative

It was obvious (to me, anyway) that every season the show stages these question and answer segments between the brides and grooms and their spouse's friends just to stir up the shit and create drama.  It was the same thing when Lindsey's father said that her words could be vicious (or some synonym of that).  The producers tell them to answer in the WORST way possible for their friend.  This time it was just the excuse Alyssa was looking for to get off the hook with Chris.  It was a total crock but she thought she could pull that one over on the experts and the audience and we'd all buy it.  Except no one did.  She's that stupid and deluded.

3 hours ago, gingerandcloves said:

I agree, Ryan was always so stone-faced and never smiled. I really don't think he's any better looking than Chris, and may be less personable even, but to each her own.

Ryan is much less personable than Chris.  Most of the season he sat there like a lump on a chair.   And he wasn't that much better looking than Chris if at all.  Chris could at least overcome his appearance with his interesting personality and good humor.  Ryan didn't even have a personality or sense of humor that he ever revealed to us, anyway.

38 minutes ago, princelina said:

I do think that she doesn't want to hurt Chris' feelings by telling him she thinks he's ugly/has bad teeth/not good enough for her/etc.  No matter how the "experts" prod and push she just ain't doing it!  But she can't seem to understand that the reason she is "not a good person" is because she DID call him a loser/someone she feels "unsafe" with/someone she "hated" on tv.  She implied/stated that he was a mean, nasty, untrustworthy man.  She does not understand that that is a worse thing to say than that she found him unattractive.

I beg to disagree.  It had NOTHING to do with not wanting to hurt his feelings.  Alyssa is a narcissist - she doesn't think about people's feelings.  She only thinks about how something she says or does is going to make HER look.  And in her warped, zero self awareness she actually thought that cutting him down by calling him a loser and mean or whatever nasty things she said about him made her look better than saying he wasn't good looking enough for her.  That's because deep down she knows she's shallow and she doesn't want the world to know that.  She'd rather make it about anything else but appearance so she doesn't look shallow.  But newsflash, Alyssa:  You didn't fool anyone.

[Kiss my mutt]

I’d love to see a rematch with past contestants being matched with each other since there is a ready made dating pool available there and they’d have more to go on with each other with the past experience of the show. Another show I’d like if is the experts from MAFS Australia would swap with the the US and see how they handle the couples even though the format isn’t quite the same. It’s getting a little old especially with how many they do a year. 

[Starlight925]

Alyssa & Ryan can stare at each other, stone-faced, for the rest of their lives.  

Two duller personalities, there could not be.

It's actually a perfect match.  Alyssa gets her "cowboy with a degree + money", and Ryan gets his (seemingly) hot girl.  

I thought Alyssa was cute until she opened her mouth; now, I think she's one of the ugliest contestants they've ever had.  Double chin + no chin at the same time.  Ratty extensions, sourpuss face, can't even acknowledge that she actually said what they showed her saying on camera.   

Narcissist indeed.

Edited May 29, 2022 by Starlight925

[gingerandcloves]

6 hours ago, Starlight925 said:

It's actually a perfect match.  Alyssa gets her "cowboy with a degree + money", and Ryan gets his (seemingly) hot girl.  

I don't know, guys. Does anyone know if Ryan has a lion tattoo? Because otherwise I don't think it's going to work out.

[gingerandcloves]

Okay, mini spoiler time from MAFS Fan: Alyssa and Ryan are not together. Neither are Chris and Olivia. Chris apparently has a new girlfriend though, she posted photos of her and Chris together at a festival. Olajuwon and Katina *may* have split up - Olajuwon commented on a post of a guy saying he works out at the gym to forget about his ex, and O said he agreed, along with some laughing emojis, so IDK.

[Retired at last]

Thanks for the spoilers. I wonder how much of that we will see this week or if that all happened after they filmed that show. So glad to know that Chris and Ryan are safe.

And, especially happy to think that Katina saw the light.

Edited May 30, 2022 by Retired at last

[qtpye]

2 hours ago, Retired at last said:

Thanks for the spoilers. I wonder how much of that we will see this week or if that all happened after they filmed that show. So glad to know that Chris and Ryan are safe.

And, especially happy to think that Katina saw the light.

Sadly, I wonder if it is her that broke up the relationship?

Either way, she is better off without him, if this rumor is true.

[gingerandcloves]

Mark the Shark now has a dating profile up on Bumble, to summarize, he's 5'11", a Scorpio, has an undergraduate degree, considers himself a frequent drinker but a non-smoker, is Catholic and conservative, and wants kids someday. His interests are the gym, design, spa weekends, creativity. Says the quickest ways to his heart are food or the gym. Also says he the CEO/Founder of Switchups*, whatever that is. I guess it's good he's putting himself back out there.

*Found it on IG, it's a watch store.

Edited May 30, 2022 by gingerandcloves

[Yeah No]

7 hours ago, gingerandcloves said:

Mark the Shark now has a dating profile up on Bumble, to summarize, he's 5'11", a Scorpio, has an undergraduate degree, considers himself a frequent drinker but a non-smoker, is Catholic and conservative, and wants kids someday. His interests are the gym, design, spa weekends, creativity. Says the quickest ways to his heart are food or the gym. Also says he the CEO/Founder of Switchups*, whatever that is. I guess it's good he's putting himself back out there.

*Found it on IG, it's a watch store.

This "business" is nothing new for him.  I found a webpage, a Facebook page going back to 2014 and a Linkedin Page on it.  It's a very basic watch that you can order in several different colors and custom face logos to switch out in several different colors of the same ugly silicone watchband. It supposedly dates back to 2011.  Two employees?  Based out of Providence, RI?  A "commercial" dating back to 2011?  And no way to order except on that not-so-great website?  It's not even on Amazon.  I doubt it's taking the word by storm or he wouldn't have to take a position at a Chick fil A.  And it's a very basic watch, not even a smart watch.  

Here's a YouTube review on it dating back to 2012.  Maybe this was a novel idea over a decade ago but now changeable silicone watchbands are everywhere on smart watches.

[cardigirl]

17 hours ago, gingerandcloves said:

Mark the Shark now has a dating profile up on Bumble, to summarize, he's 5'11", a Scorpio, has an undergraduate degree, considers himself a frequent drinker but a non-smoker, is Catholic and conservative, and wants kids someday. His interests are the gym, design, spa weekends, creativity. Says the quickest ways to his heart are food or the gym. Also says he the CEO/Founder of Switchups*, whatever that is. I guess it's good he's putting himself back out there.

*Found it on IG, it's a watch store.

Hahahahahaha ha!  Bring on the goldfish! 🤣🐟

[athousandclowns]

On 4/9/2022 at 10:40 AM, Retired at last said:

@athousandclowns, that was an April Fool's joke from Lifetime.

Thanks I’ve been under a great deal of stress and therefore extra slow on the draw. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.  I’ve been so happy for Loni 

[gingerandcloves]

Chris' girlfriend posted this pic yesterday:

[gingerandcloves]

Olivia also posted to her stories, just saying that she had fun going to Boston and meeting up with the MAFS crew there.

[Cramps]

That photo makes me realize that we’ve never actually seen Chris having fun before! 

[Retired at last]

Chris' new girlfriend seems a little too quirky to me. She was dressed like that in another picture I have seen of her where she is sitting on his shoulders, so maybe it was the same day and they went to an art thing? Who is the other guy? I hope Chris is happy. The other guys really seem to like him.

[gingerandcloves]

1 hour ago, Retired at last said:

Chris' new girlfriend seems a little too quirky to me. She was dressed like that in another picture I have seen of her where she is sitting on his shoulders, so maybe it was the same day and they went to an art thing? Who is the other guy? I hope Chris is happy. The other guys really seem to like him.

They were at something called the Electric Daisy Carnival in Vegas, so yeah, everyone was dressed wild and acting a little crazy.

She does seem kind of quirky, but the important question is, does she like disc golf?

[Elizzikra]

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She does seem kind of quirky, but the important question is, does she like disc golf?

I think the most important question is whether or not she is a good fucking person?

[gingerandcloves]

Some tidbits - Ryan was on a podcast interview, I didn't personally listen to it but according to those who did, the main highlights are 1) He said Alyssa DM'ed him 2 weeks into her season (SMH, she's so transparent) 2) He said he told Alyssa off in the bakery but it wasn't shown on TV, and 3) He said he was the last person who had Alyssa's back and she blew it.

Also, Noi posted this vague IG post about how she enjoyed the whole MAFS experience and it taught her a lot, blah, blah, blah. It kind of sounds like a breakup post, because she's talking about the next stage of her life being full of love and life, and she's ready to embrace the adventure that's coming. In addition, she has NO photos of Steve on her IG, and Steve has NO photos of Noi on his. I guess we'll have to stay tuned for more info.

[gingerandcloves]

MTS put out a long shoutout on his IG stories to all his friends and the cast and crew and experts from MAFS. When mentioning the wives, he did address Katina and Noi as still being married, so, maybe they are. Anyway, he seems to have really bonded with the guys, and he learned a lot through the process and is very grateful for everything.

[gingerandcloves]

Mark did some Q&A's on his stories. He's still single, he's lost a lot of weight, his dream vacation is New Zealand, and he says his favorite food is a tie between sushi (!) and burgers. I guess Lindsey did one good thing by breaking him out of his chicken fingers rut. 

[Crashcourse]

I think Mark was joking about one of his favorite foods being sushi. 

(Even if it was a tie between sushi and burgers.) 😄

[Yeah No]

5 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

I think Mark was joking about one of his favorite foods being sushi. 

(Even if it was a tie between sushi and burgers.) 😄

I don't know, he also made an aside to sushi being one of the good things he discovered thanks to Lindsey in (I believe) the first reunion episode so I wouldn't assume he was joking.  I have been wondering about that ever since I heard it, and now finding out he mentioned it in a Q&A makes me think he was serious.

Anyway I was the one that got shit for saying that Mark looked like he was voluntarily eating the sushi and didn't seem to be forced into doing it by Lindsey and I still stand by my perception of that.

[gingerandcloves]

Mark did verify that Lindsey introduced him to sushi, and I'm pretty certain he's sincere about liking it.

On another note, Woody and Amani from New Orleans had their baby! The name is Reign. I'm not sure if it's a boy or girl though, hopefully someone else can share if they know.

[Elizzikra]

https://www.eonline.com/news/1333600/married-at-first-sights-woody-and-amani-randall-welcome-baby-boy-find-out-his-name

It's a boy and he is the spitting image of his daddy.

[Retired at last]

LOL - he does look exactly like Woody. Poor little baby.

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, Retired at last said:

LOL - he does look exactly like Woody. Poor little baby.

He's gonna be one stylish baby. I predict little baby hats with matching shoes. No crocheted caps for him!

[Jeanne222]

He’ll grow into looking good!  He’s a small baby. Just wait til he fills out!

[Allison1]

One of the new "experts" is separated?   https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/pictures/married-at-first-sight-season-15-cast-photos-air-date-experts/

Franklin, 44, is a film producer and relationship expert. His 2016 New York Times bestselling book, The Wait, was co-written with his estranged wife, actress Meagan Good. The two married in September 2012, but Franklin filed for divorce in September 2021.

“After much prayer and consideration, we have decided to go into our futures separately but forever connected,” Good, 40, and Franklin said in a joint statement to Us Weekly at the time. “We celebrate almost a decade of marriage together and a love that is eternal. There’s no one at fault, we believe this is the next best chapter in the evolution of our love.”

[Yeah No]

This show is doing its absolute best to lose me as a viewer.  I just had to say that.  Between the never ending seasons of 2 hour episodes of the same boring crap every week, the zillions of commercials to fast forward through, the disastrous matches, virtually zero hiatus between seasons and now new ridiculous so-called "relationship experts" that seem to be expert in nothing more than separation and divorce,  I'm really teetering on the edge.  My husband has already vowed not to watch this season.  It's going to be awfully hard for me to devote that much time to watching this if my husband is not also going to watch it.  It's too much.  I don't want this show to be the cause of any damage to my 42 year marriage!!  

[Allison1]

7 hours ago, Yeah No said:

This show is doing its absolute best to lose me as a viewer.  I just had to say that.  Between the never ending seasons of 2 hour episodes of the same boring crap every week, the zillions of commercials to fast forward through, the disastrous matches, virtually zero hiatus between seasons and now new ridiculous so-called "relationship experts" that seem to be expert in nothing more than separation and divorce,  I'm really teetering on the edge.  My husband has already vowed not to watch this season.  It's going to be awfully hard for me to devote that much time to watching this if my husband is not also going to watch it.  It's too much.  I don't want this show to be the cause of any damage to my 42 year marriage!!  

DH and I will hit 49 years this summer.  Maybe they need an expert who's got a long track record in a single marriage?   LOL!   Do we know how long Pastor Cal has been married? Just googled it - since 2009.   

[Elizzikra]

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Maybe they need an expert who's got a long track record in a single marriage?

I think that Pepper's been in her second marriage for awhile now...

[Kiss my mutt]

Pastor Cal has been married before too. Maybe they should have @Allison1:and @Yeah No be experts since you’ve been successfully married for a long time unlike this knuckle heads. 

[Allison1]

2 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Pastor Cal has been married before too. Maybe they should have @Allison1:and @Yeah No be experts since you’ve been successfully married for a long time unlike this knuckle heads. 

LOL!    I just reread my message and see it almost sounds like I was suggesting that.  Nope - I'd want no part of these shenanigans.   

[Ilovepie]

16 hours ago, Yeah No said:

ridiculous so-called "relationship experts" that seem to be expert in nothing more than separation and divorce, 

That actually seems like it would be more useful for the show as it stands now, seeing how the majority of these people will end up divorced rather than married......but I completely agree with you @Yeah No. It's overkill for something that really does not need it. Imagine how much less pissed we would all be if we weren't in a perpetual cycle of having to watch this nonsense? If they actually only showed matching, wedding prep and bachelor/bachelorette parties, weddings, honeymoon, a few weeks of marriage, decision day, reunion? And then NOTHING! I don't care enough about these people to wonder "what they are doing now". When will they learn we only care when they stay married, and I don't mean like Erik and
Virginia just for couples cam or Steve and Noi for I have no idea why. The season shouldn't be three times longer than the actual marriage in my mind.....

[mythoughtis]

1 hour ago, Ilovepie said:

That actually seems like it would be more useful for the show as it stands now, seeing how the majority of these people will end up divorced rather than married......but I completely agree with you @Yeah No. It's overkill for something that really does not need it. Imagine how much less pissed we would all be if we weren't in a perpetual cycle of having to watch this nonsense? If they actually only showed matching, wedding prep and bachelor/bachelorette parties, weddings, honeymoon, a few weeks of marriage, decision day, reunion? And then NOTHING! I don't care enough about these people to wonder "what they are doing now". When will they learn we only care when they stay married, and I don't mean like Erik and
Virginia just for couples cam or Steve and Noi for I have no idea why. The season shouldn't be three times longer than the actual marriage in my mind.....

They could eliminate the wedding prep and the bachelor/ bachelorette parties too.  I am interested in seeing the process  - matching, wedding, etc. I don’t need to see the intimacy role play. I want to see them learn about each other, see how they fit, discuss things like budgets, etc.  I don’t need to see the group bowling, and so forth. 

[Yeah No]

8 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Pastor Cal has been married before too. Maybe they should have @Allison1:and @Yeah No be experts since you’ve been successfully married for a long time unlike this knuckle heads. 

Thank you!  I was actually legally separated from my husband for a few years in our 40s during which time I learned what online dating was all about so some of my dating experience is more recent than 40+ years ago.  We got married young (I was 21, he was 23) and I think we needed the time apart to realize why we were worth it together.  I realize that everyone sets their own relationship rules and different things work for different people, but I personally don't feel married not living with my husband and think it's a different kind of relationship without that.  After a while we were back together even though we lived apart, so I know what that's like too.  Whatever works for Pepper and whoever else, but I still question whether it's technically marriage if you permanently live apart.   I think that new "expert" that spun that tale about how his impending divorce is a "new chapter" in his "love story" or whatever he called it needs a bigger shovel for all that BS!!

Edited June 15, 2022 by Yeah No

[Ilovepie]

16 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

They could eliminate the wedding prep and the bachelor/ bachelorette parties too.  I am interested in seeing the process  - matching, wedding, etc. I don’t need to see the intimacy role play. I want to see them learn about each other, see how they fit, discuss things like budgets, etc.  I don’t need to see the group bowling, and so forth. 

I preferred the seasons when they didn't interact with the other couples (at least on camera) and didn't honeymoon and live together. That is not real life - that is reality show living. I preferred when the emphasis was on each couple trying to get to know their partner, not inter-couple drama. I agree I miss the housing and finance discussions. But all this is forgivable if they would just cast better people! Sadly, I think that ship has sailed.....the "social experiment" has been exchanged for cheap drama.

[gingerandcloves]

According to Steve, he and Noi are "figuring things out". I had a feeling that they were on the rocks as they had no current photos of the other on their IG; Noi's been off at a friend's wedding without Steve, and someone else was looking after Sushi while she was away; and it was pretty obvious from her IG that Noi's been living on her own. So much for 4 couples saying "yes" on Decision Day, it looks like it's down to Katina and Olajuwon now.

[gingerandcloves]

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