S10.E15: Sex, Lies and Text Messages

[jewel21]

Kyle and Dorit surprise Teddi with a baby shower, and Brandi has a few surprises of her own; Denise and Garcelle lament over how they think Lisa has changed; Erika jets off to Broadway.

Airdate: 08/19/2020

[Happy Camper]

I don't believe that it's a surprise baby shower. Didn't we see a scene where Kyle and Teddi were planning the shower? When Brandi suddenly showed up because she happened to be waiting in the car for Kim?  Do the producers think that we viewers are stupid? What a coincidence.

Hey Producers! We are not as stupid (like Teddi) as you think. 

Time to go back to the drawing boards.

[nexxie]

“Denise and Garcelle lament over how they think Lisa has changed”

This could be interesting. Has Rinna really changed - or has her mask just slipped a bit? And, if she has really changed, why?

[Mar]

These comments are from an Instagram account where gossipy things about the Housewives shows are posted. The discussion was about Rinna because it seems that tonight we will be seeing A discussion between her and her daughter Amelia about her eating disorder. 🙄🙄🥱🥱

the quoted tweets are from Lisa’s twitter account 
No wonder they needed to pile on Denise this season. Not much else happening

 

 

Edited August 19, 2020 by Mar

[suomi]

I misunderstood or read it too fast at first, I thought the comments were made by one of the daughters. It was Rinna!

Sheds light on when a daughter was crabbing because Harry Hamlin was offering her a hamburger or whatever in the backyard and HH said to Rinna "This is all YOUR fault." And daughter flipped good ol' dad the bird.

No wonder he holes up in Canada. 

 

[Keywestclubkid]

1 hour ago, Mar said:

These comments are from an Instagram account where gossipy things about the Housewives shows are posted. The discussion was about Rinna because it seems that tonight we will be seeing A discussion between her and her daughter Amelia about her eating disorder. 🙄🙄🥱🥱

the quoted tweets are from Lisa’s twitter account 
No wonder they needed to pile on Denise this season. Not much else happening

 

 

Rinna is a Garbage person who deflects on others so her own shit behavior can be ignored .... I say if she returns next year then all bets are off and Harry and what hes been up to when not around her and all the allegations of his cheating and why he doesn't seem to ever want to be around his wife should be brought up on Camera ... fair is fair

[Straycat80]

Why is Kim and Brandi coming to the baby shower, I don’t think they even know her. It’s Kyle shit stirring so sure. 

[janiema]

Kyle is really awful. Garcelle is great.

[Legalbeagle421]

I can’t imagine having a conversation with my mom and saying “I would politely tell your friend to f**k off.” I just can’t with these people. 😩

[JD5166]

I’m surprised we didn’t hear from that bratty asshole that Garcelle is a chub-chub and she’s jealous. 

[TexasGal]

I love Teddi acting like Dorit is co-hosting a baby shower for her meaning they are better friends than before.  Oh, wait, she did clue in at some point that it was just an excuse to show off the CAP-ri room at Buca.

[Mr. Miner]

I couldn’t care less about Amelia or Dorit’s room at Fupa De Fukko.

[Emmeline]

I commend Garcelle for bringing up Rhina’s body flaunting on Insta and how it might affect her daughters body image.  It’s something I was always questioning in my mind.  The daughter did actually say in tonight episode that she did blame her mother and even discussed it in her last therapy session. Then the epiphany, she realizes she can only blame herself. 

[Straycat80]

I’m glad Garcelle is calling out Rinna on her narcissism. 

[tranquilidade]

Giving a polite excuse for missing a party causes distrust?  Kyle sounds like an imbecile.  

[Legalbeagle421]

1 minute ago, tranquilidade said:

Giving a polite excuse for missing a party causes distrust?  Kyle sounds like an imbecile.  

It would have been a problem either way. She tells a white lie to get out of it. It's distrust. If she says, I don't like Teddi or her baby, then she's being an asshole. Denise couldn't win in that situation. 

[tranquilidade]

Kyle is a vindictive nasty piece of dirt.

[FlyingEgret]

Hope there is a Kinko's down the street so Dorit can have place cards name tags made for Brandi and Kim...

Edited August 20, 2020 by FlyingEgret

[JD5166]

This is so disgusting. 

[janiema]

9 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

Giving a polite excuse for missing a party causes distrust?  Kyle sounds like an imbecile.  

She is an imbecile.

[Straycat80]

Way to kill a baby shower, invite Brandi, she’s a horrible bitch. If they bring her back I’m done with this show. Done! 

[Emmeline]

They have to have Teddy’s friends leave before they discuss this on national tv.  

Can Brandy really be a great mother when her boys get razzed at school for their mother’s drunken behavior and sexcapades?

Edited August 20, 2020 by Emmeline

[LibertarianSlut]

So Denise is very serious that she’s “very married” and doesn’t cheat on her husband, as of last episode, but in her confessional she says with a big grin on her face that if she told Aaron she had sex with Brandi, he’d simply ask why he wasn’t involved.  This isn’t another lie, but it’s yet another inconsistency in her philosophy.  It’s hard to keep up.  It reminds me of RHNJ season 4 Melissa, who was outraged at the idea that someone would accuse her of working at a strip club, and then she interviewed that it would have been stupid not to work there because the money is so good.  I feel like I say this every week, but please pick a lane, please pick a story.  Or just shut up about it.  

That Bucco de Peppo outfit Dorit was wearing for Teddi’s baby shower was awful, and it made her hips look huge when they’re not.  I would say that look was not just bad, but atrocious.  Lisa looked amazing though.  She may have horrible behavior, but there’s no denying that she looks fabulous for someone in her late fifties.  I don’t see any wrinkles.  It’s hard to believe she’s older than Kim, although Kim looked much better at Teddi’s baby shower than she did last time we saw her in that ponytail.  Of course, it’s natural for Kim to be invited to Teddi’s baby shower.  We all know about the famous Kim-Teddi friendship that goes back...five minutes.  

Kyle and Teddi pronounced “Capri, Italy” as “CAP-pri” with the emphasis on the first syllable.  That’s not only incorrect, but I’ve never heard anyone bungle the word “Capri” before in my life.  Oh, and place cards are now name tags.  Leave it to Kyle and Teddi to sound like bumpkins.

I can’t believe how little is happening on this show that Garcelle tells Lisa kind of politely but kind of bitchily that Lisa mentions that she was Roxy Hart too often and the screen fades to black with mouths agape.  If that had happened on RHNYC, not only would it be the least aggressive thing that happened all episode, there wouldn’t even be a bite missed between the casual swearing that would ensue.  In the Berkshires, no one even missed a bite of Chinese food when Dorinda shoved Luann out of the door because she allegedly wasn’t paying Sonja enough for cabaret.  

That was such a set-up, Sutton and Garcelle leaving and Brandi coming in.  Then Teddi’s real friends have to leave the baby shower before Brandi drops a dime on Denise?!?  Where they do that at???  Bravo, Bravo, Bravo, I’m pretty much ready to throw in the towel here.  

[Suzes]

Teddy said point blank she doesn’t know Brandy, but yet Brandy is at her baby shower? And through the magic of editing, they show Brandy asking if she can come and Teddy saying yes.... This show is ridiculous, they will jump through hoops to make these ladies not look like the petty, viscous bitches they’ve been. Must be because they’re getting some flack for the story line they have to try and validate.

[Jel]

Was Teddi mocking Dorit to Kyle as they were walking into the baby shower that Dorit was throwing for her?

Classy!

She really is a mean girl just like Splitzy Magootville. 

 

 

[FlyingEgret]

How many filters do they have to use on Brandi?

[Emmeline]

Didn’t Rhina and Denise just say they loved each other on last weeks episode.  In the end, either way, it’s none of their f-ing business.

[tranquilidade]

Interesting, LVP's name is finally thrown into the conversation.  Hey Kyle, isn't this where it really comes from after all?  You just can't get enough revenge to fill your black heart.   You are still trying to get revenge over the Muaricio cheating tabloid stories debacle.

[Straycat80]

Those texts were damning, apparently Denise and Brandi have/had a friendship but that still doesn’t give Brandi license to tell everyone things got sexual. This is all a ploy to try to get herself back in the show. 

Edited August 20, 2020 by Straycat80

[JD5166]

Is Brandi  part of this “group”, now? 

Hate to say thank you to Covid for crushing Erickas Broadway Run. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer person. 

[FlyingEgret]

4 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

Didn’t Rhina and Denise just say they loved each other on last weeks episode.  In the end, either way, it’s none of their f-ing business.

But it wasn't in a text chain so it doesn't mean anything...

[tranquilidade]

Kyle keeps saying she feels bad for Denise.  No she doesn't.  She enjoys this.

[Legalbeagle421]

I'm not Team Denise because I find something very annoying about her and Aaron. But I can't stand with the rest of them either because this whole thing is a big "who cares?!?" This is a Denise/Aaron issue. I don't think she's trying to lie or start some weird conspiracy. She just didn't want to share it on camera and that's FAIR. The only thing she did "wrong" is she talks a lot of shit in her confessionals that she would never say in person. That's annoying, but small potatoes compared to the other women's inability to let this boring nonsense go.

 

Edited to add: Annoyed that Denise is bringing Camille back on my screen, but again, small potatoes lol. 

Edited August 20, 2020 by Legalbeagle421

[LibertarianSlut]

Erika saying she wasn’t looking at the substance of the texts, but the amount of texts, was as disingenuous as Denise saying that she was only upset about the threesome talk because of the effect it had on Sami, which she didn’t want to “get into.”

I don’t think the texts were indicative of lesbianism.  I think they just read like two phony LA people who didn’t know each other trying to connect.  Sometimes the less actual intimacy two people have as straight girl friends, the more of a sweet spin they put on their texts.  I used to text that way with a distant friend, and I would never text that way with my sister, because we’re not fake with each other, because we really know each other.  

It was proof that Denise was technically lying when she said she didn’t know Brandi, but it’s certainly not the red flag they’re trying to make it out to be.  The fact that Brandi was so ride or die about texts that only proved that Denise was lying about a lie she’d already been caught in was a whole lot of nothing, and it was the biggest indication to me that Brandi is lying or exaggerating.  

I had to guffaw about how proud Erika was that she’d come “full circle.”  Hunty, you married an old man, you wore a pink wig, pretended texts were incriminating when they proved something that was already proven, and you acted outraged that she called you a cold bitch when you are a cold bitch.  Standing O.  

These women finally went too far with Denise and her nontroversy that the situation is like a rubber band slapping back.  Lisa, “part of the plan”?  “Weaponized our friendship”?  What in the actual fuck is she talking about?  

I’m not Team Denise—I’m just not a fan of Denise and I was never a fan of hers on the show—but I just don’t care what happens at this point.  This is beyond bad theatre.  This is like bad puppet theatre.  

[chewycandy]

That’s a first...kicking your friends out of your baby shower. 

[goofygirl]

Interesting that they waited to roast Denise with Brandi AFTER Garcelle left.  Then Brandi throws out the coup de gras (or however you spell it!) that Denise MIGHT be MORE manipulative than.... wait for it....... LVP!!!!

Now these dipshits (Kyle & Rinna) are just taking that bone and running with it.  No WONDER Denise needed to put out a cyst & decease (TM Tamra Barney RHOC) order!!! I'd have already called Alphonse Gargoni to go over and give old Brandi the business!!!

And all their gasp! pearl clutching about LYING (about ANYTHING, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE) just slays the SHIT out of me!  Let's just get started on lying.... RINNA... KYLE.... TEDDI.... ERIKA.... DORITO....

And seriously, WHAT WAS THAT Dorito was wearing at that shower???  I don't get it.

And BAD PUPPET THEATER!!!! Libertarian Slut... NAILED IT!

Edited August 20, 2020 by goofygirl

[BloggerAloud]

That scene in the kitchen with Kyle and Rinna and Kyle's testimonial makes it seem like Kyle has figured out which way the wind is blowing when it comes to how things are going to be perceived with the Denise storyline and is trying to get out of its way. The problem is she is too much a part of it, especially in getting on camera.

[DivaLasVegas82]

Brandi is vulgar and trashy, but I still believe she and Denise had sex. Her texts didn't provide a smoking gun, but they do prove that she and Denise had a very close relationship at one point. Lisa--who has known Denise longer than the rest of the women--even said that Denise never talked to her in the intimate way she talked to Brandi.

I just hated that this season became another gang-up situation. Denise is a bold faced liar, and I believe she brought a lot of criticism on herself by not just being honest from the get-go, but I hate gang-ups. I wish the women had just accepted that Denise was never going to be honest about her relationship with Brandi and moved on. My thing with Denise is I no longer trust anything she says. She is a habitual liar.

I was LoL @ the previews for the season finale of Denise reaching out to Camille Wrong alley, Denise. Camille is more two faced and back biting than any of the rest of the women on the show.

[FlyingEgret]

Now Rinna feels like a big fat fool - can we call her Chub Chub now?

[The Ringo Kidd]

15 minutes ago, FlyingEgret said:

How many filters do they have to use on Brandi?

You really can’t filter shit.

 

34 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

Giving a polite excuse for missing a party causes distrust?  Kyle sounds like an imbecile.  

If you look up imbecile in the dictionary Kyle’s picture is there.

[DivaLasVegas82]

I like Garcelle, but I feel like she unnecessarily tries to start drama. First, she tried to beef with Kyle. But that beef went nowhere because Kyle wouldn't play into it. And then for some strange reason, she decided to go after Lisa and Amelia. When Lisa gave her a calm response that she didn't feel like her dancing IG videos caused Amelia to have anorexia, she then tried to start beef between Erika and Lisa by claiming Lisa made Erika's stint on Broadway all about her. I'm glad Erika didn't take the bait. After Teddi and Kyle, Lisa and Erika seemed like they have the closest friendship outside of the show. I'm sure if Erika felt Lisa was being self-absorbed and diminishing her light, Erika would have communicated that to Lisa.

[nexxie]

So Garcelle calls out Rinna - and ends up apologizing for speaking the truth and hoping Rinna will own it. Who’s the manipulator? 

Edited August 20, 2020 by nexxie

[DivaLasVegas82]

20 minutes ago, FlyingEgret said:

How many filters do they have to use on Brandi?

It's a shame what Brandi has done to her face. She use to be pretty.

[snarts]

Rinna & her daughter are purposely missing the point of Garcelle's comment. She's not saying that Rinna dancing around in her underwear on social media caused the eating disorder, she's asking why Rinna continues to do it knowing her daughter has an eating disorder. Isn't she concerned about her daughter's feelings or the affect focusing so much on physical attributes might have on her? 

Rinna might want to pay attention to the drawer full of pill bottles in her daughter's room. I guess she hasn't taught her the ziplock baggie trick yet., eh? Oh, and a $5700/month apartment for an unemployed teenager. Nice

While i typically refrain from talking about the children, Rinna's used her daughter's issues as a .storyline amd both are over 18 & willingly film scenes. So, fair game. 

Edited August 20, 2020 by snarts
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[DivaLasVegas82]

41 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

I commend Garcelle for bringing up Rhina’s body flaunting on Insta and how it might affect her daughters body image.  It’s something I was always questioning in my mind.  The daughter did actually say in tonight episode that she did blame her mother and even discussed it in her last therapy session. Then the epiphany, she realizes she can only blame herself. 

Amelia did not blame Lisa. She said she resented Lisa for being naturally thin. But Amelia said her choice to severely diet was hers. I respected Amelia for that. Anorexia is a psychological disorder. I don't think anything Lisa did or didn't do would have prevented Amelia from having it. I thought Garcelle's comments were completely out of line. God forbid her sons ever struggle with something when they reach adulthood. I'm sure Garcelle wouldn't want anyone questioning if her parenting had something to do with it.

2 minutes ago, snarts said:

Rinna & her daughter are purposely missing the point of Garcelle's comment. She's not saying that Rinna dancing around in her underwear on social media caused the eating disorder, she's asking why Rinna continues to do it knowing her daughter has an eating disorder. Isn't she concerned about her daughter's feelings or the affect focusing so much on physical attributes might have on her? 

Rinna might want to pay attention to the drawer full of pill bottles in her daughter's room. I guess she hasn't taught her the ziplock baggie trick yet., eh? Oh, and a $5700/month apartment for an unemployed teenager. Nice

While i typically refrain from talking about the children, Rinna's used her daughter's issues as a .storyline amd both are over 18 & willingly film scenes. So, fair fame. 

Why can't Lisa dance on IG in her lingerie if it makes her happy? Amelia's anorexia has nothing to do with Lisa's IG videos. And Amelia confirmed that during their conversation. I'm sure if Lisa believed that she was negatively impacting her daughter's mental health, she would stop posting the IG videos.

[tranquilidade]

 I think Rinna has an obsession with being skinny and this IMO had to be a negative influence on a person living with her who had any tendency to the disorder.  People I know with children who recovered are very careful not to comment on eating or weight to avoid triggering a relapse even years after proper weight and eating is achieved.  Knowing her daughter suffers with this life threatening problem makes Rinna's behavior reckless and despicable. 

[DivaLasVegas82]

46 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

Giving a polite excuse for missing a party causes distrust?  Kyle sounds like an imbecile.  

Why couldn't Denise just say she didn't want to come? The whole "I'm sick" excuse was lame IMO because it was so obvious that she was lying.

[The Ringo Kidd]

I blame Lisa Rinna for covid-19.

Edited August 20, 2020 by The Ringo Kidd

[WaltersHair]

A gogo dancer? Is this 1965? You can say it, Erika. Stripper. Say it with me.

And you're on your husband's private jet by doing something not all that different from the above occupation. Pahleeze

I'm not addressing the over-cooked stupidity of the Brandi plot.

*edited because I hate making the your/you're mistake

Edited August 20, 2020 by WaltersHair

[DivaLasVegas82]

I hope Denise doesn't come back next season. It's not because I hate her; It's because I don't want to see another season of her vs. the rest of the women. Furthermore, I don't think Denise is cut out for reality TV. She's too protective over her image and cares too much about what people think. If she came back next season, it will be more scenes of her walking out anytime she was confronted about something she didn't want hear and her telling Bravo to cut footage that showed her in an unflattering light.