2020 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp

[onthebubble]

Ok so I copied and rotated the image. The things I can make out (and assuming that the three judges in this scenario are MRS, K & J.

Madeline, Victoria, Tess and Kelcey - have a yes from all 3

Hannah - has maybes from all three

Alora-Rose - No from MRS,  yes from Kelli, maybe from Judy. It also says 'V Clap' on the bottom left of her picture. 

Jada - yes from all three

Whoever is next to Jada has a maybe from all three but Kellis hand is covering the name and I dont know the TCC well enough to determine who it is

Kat - yes from all three


I have bad eyesight but also:

* It looks like it says 'November bridge' above Madeline

* 'Work line Out' is written above Kelcey - 

Neither of these make sense to me though  😅 And that's all I can work out! 
 

Edited December 24, 2020 by onthebubble
fixing my bad grammar

[MeeMee2]

7 hours ago, TB12 said:

All of this... my heart BROKE for Hannah last night, the poor girl needed a big giant hug, not to be kicked to the curb a la Tara. There is something really wrong with the organization that this is how they deal with someone going through a hard time. They love to capitalize on the successes of the girls but God forbid they show the reality of what is happening in someone's life, assuming the girl is okay with that. And I believe Hannah is more than happy to share bc she understands the power of bringing light to mental health issues. She just looked so broken last night it was crushing to watch.

Ya know if Hannah has showed up to TC with a muffin top, bad attitude, arrogant jeans, and had to watch her rookies to remember dances...then sure, she has to go. But that's not what this situation was.  I have the same issues Hannah has and like many out there during this pandemic, my mental health has taken a beating. Kelli loves to talk on and on about the DCC sisterhood and how invested they are in these girls. How great would it of been if Kelli showed Hannah a little empathy, loyalty, and understanding? Not as her boss, but as a person who's known Hannah for years. Kelli has seen Hannah's character as a premier veteran and also the years she kept coming back over and over to audition for the DCC. Kelli was more emotional and heartbroken over freaking Anabelle, who she JUST met like a few days earlier...🙄

[scorpio1031]

25 minutes ago, Vandy10 said:

Also, Judy's response to Kelli at the end when Kelli asked her to help with the tough decision about cutting vets, says it all. Judy made an outraged noise and face, clearly indicating that she wasn't going to jump in and take on the shit work when Kelli never listens to her opinion anyway. I hope somebody makes a GIF of that moment.

That is the only part I have watched so far and YES!!!  That was the best response.  Second would be season 13, when Kelli had been rude to Judy all season long, and she asked her opinion and Judy just shot her the look without saying anything.

[kalibean]

It’s not just the pandemic, either. Hannah seems very passionate about social justice issues as well, at least from what I’ve seen on her IG this year.  So pandemic PLUS everything going on socially...it’s just a heavy time. And so people will gloss right over unaffected, some take things to heart, some just stay level, etc.  Dallas was pretty active this spring/summer and Chicago has been as well and IIRC she might have been up north with family until Camp started. So any time there is unrest on local news and social media, etc it’s just more to weigh on someone’s mind. 
 

At the end of the day these are pretty young women with various degrees of life experience, and navigating the dumpster fire of 2020 isn’t easy. Brighter things ahead for Hannah, Brennan, and hopefully all of us ❤️

[parrotfeathers]

We need to start a list of what Kelli needs in her "office" when she talks to the TCCs.

1.  Kleenex.  She could have gotten some out of the hotel room bathroom.

2.  

[Trixi]

10 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

We need to start a list of what Kelli needs in her "office" when she talks to the TCCs.

1.  Kleenex.  She could have gotten some out of the hotel room bathroom.

2.  

A clue

[vanillagum]

3 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

And because she's a compassionate, empathetic future public health worker, she perhaps "cared too much?" And so DCC cut her. The storyline wants you to believe that she was depressed "for some reason."  Really what she needed was the organization that boldly proclaims to empower and support women, to understand and value her.  Instead she got exploited on a reality TV show.

Omg right? It's not like she's suddenly a shitty dancer. She's an amazing dancer going through some shit, as a lot of people are. This is supposed to be a sisterhood and a family, but they just cut her and tell her to not let the door hit her on the way out? Sad

[ShellyB]

On 12/20/2020 at 11:50 AM, go4luca said:

I believe many of the ladies have their ankles taped for extra support while dancing in the boots. Perhaps @ShellyB can confirm if ever she stops by.

A few of the girls get taped before games, much like players. Mostly to help prevent any ankle rolls for those with weak ankles, shin splints, etc. 

[scorpio1031]

2 hours ago, MeeMee2 said:

Kelli was more emotional and heartbroken over freaking Anabelle, who she JUST met like a few days earlier...🙄

Kelli was more concerned when Victoria "wasn't herself" after not getting show group

[MeeMee2]

2 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Kelli was more concerned when Victoria "wasn't herself" after not getting show group

 Exactly. I seriously just can't with Kelli pouting and almost in tears about not being able to get her TC girl crush on the team this year. Gross. 

[tdp1117]

9 hours ago, MeeMee2 said:

Ya know if Hannah has showed up to TC with a muffin top, bad attitude, arrogant jeans, and had to watch her rookies to remember dances...then sure, she has to go. But that's not what this situation was.  I have the same issues Hannah has and like many out there during this pandemic, my mental health has taken a beating. Kelli loves to talk on and on about the DCC sisterhood and how invested they are in these girls. How great would it of been if Kelli showed Hannah a little empathy, loyalty, and understanding? Not as her boss, but as a person who's known Hannah for years. Kelli has seen Hannah's character as a premier veteran and also the years she kept coming back over and over to audition for the DCC. Kelli was more emotional and heartbroken over freaking Anabelle, who she JUST met like a few days earlier...🙄

That's not Kelli's job though.  Her job is to field the best 36 girls from the try outs and training camp.  Hannah showed up to work mentally unprepared.  When you do that, there's always someone who is hungry enough to take your spot.  That's real life.  It's not Kelli's job to be therir friend or their mother.  She needs that emotional distance.  

When she asked Judy about whether veterans should be cut, I was screaming at my TV OF COURSE!  Vets knew this was their tryout for the 2020 season.  Vets aren't safe in try outs, and they shouldn't be here.  This isn't about loyalty.  They've never had a problem cutting vets who under performed before.  Why should they now?  

And to read Hannah's response, I'm not sorry they did cut her.  I don't know how she can say the organization had no regard for their safety.  They put them in a bubble for goodness sakes.  If she felt it was unsafe, then she should not have gone.  I get that she was stressed out, but come on!  It all came off as sour grapes to me.  

[tdp1117]

On 12/22/2020 at 8:39 PM, DCCWhiteboard said:

I guess no one has learned from Jenna & Holly

Or maybe she wanted to do DCC to land a player???

[ByTor]

17 hours ago, sATL said:

 

was there an option for the vet DCCs to opt out this season - like some of the players  had that as a choice? Something like they would have to re-audition at the final round in 2021, maybe.

I thought Taylor did.

[perrie97]

54 minutes ago, tdp1117 said:

That's not Kelli's job though.  Her job is to field the best 36 girls from the try outs and training camp.  Hannah showed up to work mentally unprepared.  When you do that, there's always someone who is hungry enough to take your spot.  That's real life.  It's not Kelli's job to be therir friend or their mother.  She needs that emotional distance.  

When she asked Judy about whether veterans should be cut, I was screaming at my TV OF COURSE!  Vets knew this was their tryout for the 2020 season.  Vets aren't safe in try outs, and they shouldn't be here.  This isn't about loyalty.  They've never had a problem cutting vets who under performed before.  Why should they now?  

And to read Hannah's response, I'm not sorry they did cut her.  I don't know how she can say the organization had no regard for their safety.  They put them in a bubble for goodness sakes.  If she felt it was unsafe, then she should not have gone.  I get that she was stressed out, but come on!  It all came off as sour grapes to me.  

Hannah didn’t show up to work “mentally unprepared”, she was suffering distress beyond her control and likely managed it best as she could.  She wasnt simply “stressed out”- she’s been open about her anxiety and depression. A pandemic is prime time for such issues to flare up.  dancing was clearly something she was looking forward to; she may have thought it would help her mental state. it’s actually legally discrimination to fire someone based on mental illness. If it’s affecting someone’s work then the right thing to do would be offer them to take leave and return when they’re well, as many professional sport teams do rather than firing them. After all, supporting the wellbeing of ones staff certainly is part of Kelli’s/any boss’ job. However in Hannah’s case it didn’t massively affect her performance- dancing was up to par and far better than some of those still on the team, so the cut seems unfair. 

As many have pointed out, the bubble was pointless since no one had to isolate for 2 weeks prior to entering. Even with testing before entering, If someone picked up COVID 2 nights before TC at a gathering, a COVID test could show up negative until they had developed symptoms. They would be infectious for at least a portion if not all  of TC, rendering the bubble useless. 
 

[forumborum]

1 hour ago, tdp1117 said:

That's not Kelli's job though.  Her job is to field the best 36 girls from the try outs and training camp.  Hannah showed up to work mentally unprepared.  When you do that, there's always someone who is hungry enough to take your spot.  That's real life.  It's not Kelli's job to be therir friend or their mother.  She needs that emotional distance.  

When she asked Judy about whether veterans should be cut, I was screaming at my TV OF COURSE!  Vets knew this was their tryout for the 2020 season.  Vets aren't safe in try outs, and they shouldn't be here.  This isn't about loyalty.  They've never had a problem cutting vets who under performed before.  Why should they now?  

And to read Hannah's response, I'm not sorry they did cut her.  I don't know how she can say the organization had no regard for their safety.  They put them in a bubble for goodness sakes.  If she felt it was unsafe, then she should not have gone.  I get that she was stressed out, but come on!  It all came off as sour grapes to me.  

They were not worried about their safety. If so vets that traveled to Mexico, attended weddings and bachelorette trips to Florida with groups larger then immediate family and no masking or social distancing, teaching dance classes and traveling to them out of state should have all been cut for not following CDC travel  guidelines ! 

Edited December 24, 2020 by forumborum
Spelling error

[souR77]

2 hours ago, tdp1117 said:

That's not Kelli's job though.  Her job is to field the best 36 girls from the try outs and training camp.  Hannah showed up to work mentally unprepared.  When you do that, there's always someone who is hungry enough to take your spot.  That's real life.  It's not Kelli's job to be therir friend or their mother.  She needs that emotional distance.  

When she asked Judy about whether veterans should be cut, I was screaming at my TV OF COURSE!  Vets knew this was their tryout for the 2020 season.  Vets aren't safe in try outs, and they shouldn't be here.  This isn't about loyalty.  They've never had a problem cutting vets who under performed before.  Why should they now?  

And to read Hannah's response, I'm not sorry they did cut her.  I don't know how she can say the organization had no regard for their safety.  They put them in a bubble for goodness sakes.  If she felt it was unsafe, then she should not have gone.  I get that she was stressed out, but come on!  It all came off as sour grapes to me.  

I’ve said this a second time , I’ll say it again or maybe I misread something but from what I understood in this thread and from Hannah’s insta response is that she went into training camp under false pretenses. If I were Hannah, I would have stayed as well because when you believe you’ve been exposed is best for her to stay there so she doesn’t go back to where she lives in Texas or in Illinois and become a super spreader. Also what usually is a after work type training camp for like two months Monday through Friday (correct me if I’m wrong) turned into a one week in a hotel 24/7 training camp because even Kelli mentioned to Melissa saying “oh we’re talking Training camp and it’s not midnight”? Hannah seemed to have managed whatever she does with a regular training camp which I think is more physically and mentally demanding but also add in a pandemic which even if you’re not trying out for a DCC is a stressful time to be in. 
 

and keep in mind that the show is edited to make it seem like the veterans that were cut “seem” to be underwhelming. Like someone mentioned that Savannah had a panic attack and didn’t dance the next day or the remainder of the day and that wasn’t aired because she wasn’t on the chopping block but I bet if she was, that would have aired. A lot of veterans had a difficult time physically and mentally and in these times I don’t blame them. 

Edited December 24, 2020 by lexie3248
Spelling error

[Manc.UK.DCCfan]

Finally watching the latest episode - seems a lot is going to go down from this thread, but I notice random things 

seems either the carpet is really messing them up or diva hosiery really isn’t that great...

[sATL]

1 hour ago, forumborum said:

They were not worried about their safety. If so vets that traveled to Mexico, attended weddings and bachelorette trips to Florida with groups larger then immediate family and no masking or social distancing, teaching dance classes and traveling to them out of state should have all been cut for not following CDC travel  guidelines ! 

So maybe this is the answer to one of my earlier questions.... what did the vets do during quarantine. It just seems to be a common question to ask nowadays, when you haven't seen a person.

If they (or the majority) weren't following the guidelines of their respective area, then there isn't something to make a little snippet segment for filming. I just thought it was odd for the 29 to "just show up" like nothing was new this season. 

[cherryblossom]

One thing that did surprise me in this episode was how much Judy spoke including telling them they looked great. Where I don’t see her talk much is where Kelli asks her about cutting someone.  My take is Judy has been upfront in the past & probably Kelli didn’t like it so Judy just rolled the ball back into Kelli’s court as she knows Kelli is going to do what she wants anyway.

[SMP637]

21 hours ago, Pau84 said:

I am here, and I am giving Kat the credit she deserves! She is a star and has more charisma is her little pinky than most girls in their entire bodies. I do not have any qualms to put Kat in the point position, which would be, with the points we have had this past year, a breath of fresh air.

Kat started TC as the least prepared DCC in recent history and I for one, love that about her. She is not a judge or an astronaut, she is a cheerleaders for Pete's sake. She doesn't have to be a goody two-shoes. She only has to entertain us and shine bright like a diamond.

It only took a few days in TC for Kat to pick up the choreography and that is damn impressive. She got called out and that is what she needs to step up. That's a whole lot better than girls that prepare till the cows come home, and still can stand out.

 

ALL. OF. THIS.

[SMP637]

19 hours ago, kamdcc123woo said:

I don't know but based on the way this season has played out thus far on tv and on social ..... I have an inkling that this may be a slow rebrand and in a few seasons Judy will retire, Kash will take over for her. I just feel like they're priming her for that. We'll be stuck with Waco Kelly for a few more years after that (ugh) and then they'll bring in either a former DCC (hopefully Michelle Keys) and then Haley will assume Charlotte (or as I like to call her the crypt keeper)'s role.   It's so blatantly obvious they need new blood in the leadership roles and desperately. 

I see Jennifer A in that mix too.

[Trixi]

Just taking a moment to wish you all Happy Holidays! This little corner has given me hours of entertainment and has been much needed this year. Wishing you all many blessings in the new year and beyond. Stay safe❤️

[parrotfeathers]

6 minutes ago, Trixi said:

Just taking a moment to wish you all Happy Holidays! This little corner has given me hours of entertainment and has been much needed this year. Wishing you all many blessings in the new year and beyond. Stay safe❤️

Same here!  Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.  Even TPTB.

2 hours ago, SMP637 said:

I see Jennifer A in that mix too.

I can see her taking Kelli's place.  "This will be your last night."  Just seems like I can hear her say that.

[TB12]

2 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

Same here!  Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone.  Even TPTB.

I third that, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays & Happy 2021 to everyone, here's hoping its a great year for all of us even you TPTB...

[NotAnyMore]

On 12/19/2020 at 10:56 PM, Tuxcat said:

Was Charlotte not always on there? She seems to be the micromanager of the bunch. She directly influences who makes the team. Remember she and Kelli decided to let Danielle stay on the team? She didn't like Ann Lux,.... She does like Kat.... If I were Kelli or Judy for that matter, I think I'd be irritated with Charlotte a bit. Remember last year she was evaluating the girls as if she had some extensive dance experience? Well maybe she does - does she have a dance background?  And she was offering them the 36 vs 37 rotation option. Anyway, I blame her for Hannah and Brennan's cuts more than - or perhaps equal to Kelli. Am sure she didn't like their vocal COIVD concerns.

I can’t see Kashara taking Kelli’s place, in fact I can’t see anyone taking Kelli’s place.

Edited December 25, 2020 by Realee

[Lcc]

12 hours ago, tdp1117 said:

That's not Kelli's job though.  Her job is to field the best 36 girls from the try outs and training camp.  Hannah showed up to work mentally unprepared.  When you do that, there's always someone who is hungry enough to take your spot.  That's real life.  It's not Kelli's job to be therir friend or their mother.  She needs that emotional distance.  

When she asked Judy about whether veterans should be cut, I was screaming at my TV OF COURSE!  Vets knew this was their tryout for the 2020 season.  Vets aren't safe in try outs, and they shouldn't be here.  This isn't about loyalty.  They've never had a problem cutting vets who under performed before.  Why should they now?  

And to read Hannah's response, I'm not sorry they did cut her.  I don't know how she can say the organization had no regard for their safety.  They put them in a bubble for goodness sakes.  If she felt it was unsafe, then she should not have gone.  I get that she was stressed out, but come on!  It all came off as sour grapes to me.  

I agree. Kelli is there to pick the best 36 girls. She has cut many girls that she liked and hated to cut. I thought she was very sympathetic to Hannah. Hannah is a beautiful and talented woman. She had a lot on her plate. As much as DCC encourages academics or whatever job the girls have, it cannot intefer with DCC. Everyone would give an excuse and it won't work. I really liked all of the vets who got cut. But if you are not top 36 for whatever reason, you are not top 36. They are amazing for even being on the team and or at training camp. Most people will never be able to accomplish that. I am sure the pressure is intense. I personally like Kelli and Judy and agree with their decision, even though it is tough and very sad to watch. 

[perrie97]

6 minutes ago, Lcc said:

I agree. Kelli is there to pick the best 36 girls. She has cut many girls that she liked and hated to cut. I thought she was very sympathetic to Hannah. Hannah is a beautiful and talented woman. She had a lot on her plate. As much as DCC encourages academics or whatever job the girls have, it cannot intefer with DCC. Everyone would give an excuse and it won't work. I really liked all of the vets who got cut. But if you are not top 36 for whatever reason, you are not top 36. They are amazing for even being on the team and or at training camp. Most people will never be able to accomplish that. I am sure the pressure is intense. I personally like Kelli and Judy and agree with their decision, even though it is tough and very sad to watch. 

I believe she was top 36. There are many weaker dancers than Hannah still on the team. Hannah is such an awesome dancer that even with everything going on for her she could still perform better than half the squad. 

[Lcc]

7 minutes ago, perrie97 said:

I believe she was top 36. There are many weaker dancers than Hannah still on the team. Hannah is such an awesome dancer that even with everything going on for her she could still perform better than half the squad. 

I agree she is a great dancer. She is beautiful, well spoken. I wish I were Hannah!  But the other girls at  TC are beautiful and great dancers too. To say they she is deserving and they are not..... The difference between all of these girls are so slight. Being late, calling Kelli girl, not having a hd face, small belly giggle, etc... Again, I like Hannah. But she came to TC different than the past. I understand why they cut her. But even though she did not make the team, I think she is amazing and has a bright future. 

[Texasgirl92]

I live in Dallas and this summer was out at an outdoor restaurant with friends and I met Kat, Kelsey, Taylor J, Ashlee and Kristin. I can attest that Kat is SUPER charming and sweet! My friend and I are both huge fans and said hi to her and Kelsey first since we ran into them and they were both so sweet! Kat joked with us and was so bubbly.

The other three were nice enough but definitely kept the conversation to a short ‘hi.’ It might have been shyness, but Kristen seemed stand offish. She kind of cut the conversation short.

Overall I would say Kat was the most pleasant and charming out of the girls we met that night. And gorgeous to boot! 

[Pau84]

12 hours ago, tdp1117 said:

That's not Kelli's job though.  Her job is to field the best 36 girls from the try outs and training camp.  Hannah showed up to work mentally unprepared.  When you do that, there's always someone who is hungry enough to take your spot.  That's real life.  It's not Kelli's job to be therir friend or their mother.  She needs that emotional distance.* 

When she asked Judy about whether veterans should be cut, I was screaming at my TV OF COURSE!  Vets knew this was their tryout for the 2020 season.  Vets aren't safe in try outs, and they shouldn't be here.  This isn't about loyalty.  They've never had a problem cutting vets who under performed before.  Why should they now?  

And to read Hannah's response, I'm not sorry they did cut her.  I don't know how she can say the organization had no regard for their safety.  They put them in a bubble for goodness sakes.  If she felt it was unsafe, then she should not have gone.**  I get that she was stressed out, but come on!  It all came off as sour grapes to me.  

I have two points:

First*

If Kelli would have been a good manager, she would have kept her emotional distance and would not have ventured into weird demented games with favorites. What are these games with favorites? Here is a random list:

1. Morgan Jordan
2. Cassie Trammell
3. Meredith Madden
4. Victoria Kalina

The way how Kelli behaved towards Victoria was and is a disgrace. When a girl that Kelli emotionally doesn't like makes an insignificant mistake, she gets cuts by Kelli. If Victoria falls out of a basic turn she laughs it off. That is NOT an emotional distance. So Kelli could have easily behaved unprofessional and be a friend to Hannah because she does it all the time. You don't get to choose when you behave 'professional' and when not.

Second**

One does not have to be a board certified psychiatrist to see that Hannah is coming into TC with mental issues. This said mental issue cannot be wished away or danced away or hugged away. It needs to be taken seriously, not only by Hannah, but by everyone around her. I do not think that someone with Hannah's past can just ignore the signs and venture into certain high stress activities without giving it a second thought. Should she have come to TC? I say no. Can someone with acute mental issues perform like they need her to perform is in this light an honest concern. Whether Hannah was cut because she voiced concerns about Covid is secondary. What should be considered is that Hannah voiced concerns about the Covid measures under the influence of a mental issue. Two years on the squad should have provided Hannah with enough cases to voice concerns about, yet she did not protest. I do not think it is right to cut someone for voicing concerns, and now we all can see with our own eyes and through Hannah's own voice that there is more at play than only voicing concerns.

[Pies]

20 minutes ago, Texasgirl92 said:

I live in Dallas and this summer was out at an outdoor restaurant with friends and I met Kat, Kelsey, Taylor J, Ashlee and Kristin. I can attest that Kat is SUPER charming and sweet! My friend and I are both huge fans and said hi to her and Kelsey first since we ran into them and they were both so sweet! Kat joked with us and was so bubbly.

The other three were nice enough but definitely kept the conversation to a short ‘hi.’ It might have been shyness, but Kristen seemed stand offish. She kind of cut the conversation short.

Overall I would say Kat was the most pleasant and charming out of the girls we met that night. And gorgeous to boot! 

Kat is clearly a kind, Christian young woman, she's clearly very beautiful, has a lot of character, and is doing a great job of representing the Dallas Cowboys.

[jammen]

26 minutes ago, Texasgirl92 said:

I live in Dallas and this summer was out at an outdoor restaurant with friends and I met Kat, Kelsey, Taylor J, Ashlee and Kristin. I can attest that Kat is SUPER charming and sweet! My friend and I are both huge fans and said hi to her and Kelsey first since we ran into them and they were both so sweet! Kat joked with us and was so bubbly.

The other three were nice enough but definitely kept the conversation to a short ‘hi.’ It might have been shyness, but Kristen seemed stand offish. She kind of cut the conversation short.

Overall I would say Kat was the most pleasant and charming out of the girls we met that night. And gorgeous to boot! 

Aw that is so nice to hear! I love Kat and just further proves that she will remain one of my favorites! So glad you got the chance to meet them! Even if they were a bit standoffish but atleast Kat and Kelcey made up for it! 😄

[Texasgirl92]

13 minutes ago, jammen said:

Aw that is so nice to hear! I love Kat and just further proves that she will remain one of my favorites! So glad you got the chance to meet them! Even if they were a bit standoffish but atleast Kat and Kelcey made up for it! 😄

Yes! And don’t get me wrong- everyone was perfectly polite. But Kat and Kelsey both just had a genuine warmth and friendliness to them. 

[TUOwl84]

1 hour ago, perrie97 said:

I believe she was top 36. There are many weaker dancers than Hannah still on the team. Hannah is such an awesome dancer that even with everything going on for her she could still perform better than half the squad. 

I agree! Hannah is better than Kat, Maddie, Madeline M., Tess, VK, and Savannah to name a few lol

[Loves2Dance]

15 hours ago, tdp1117 said:

That's not Kelli's job though.  Her job is to field the best 36 girls from the try outs and training camp.  Hannah showed up to work mentally unprepared.  When you do that, there's always someone who is hungry enough to take your spot.  That's real life.  It's not Kelli's job to be therir friend or their mother.  She needs that emotional distance.  

When she asked Judy about whether veterans should be cut, I was screaming at my TV OF COURSE!  Vets knew this was their tryout for the 2020 season.  Vets aren't safe in try outs, and they shouldn't be here.  This isn't about loyalty.  They've never had a problem cutting vets who under performed before.  Why should they now?  

And to read Hannah's response, I'm not sorry they did cut her.  I don't know how she can say the organization had no regard for their safety.  They put them in a bubble for goodness sakes.  If she felt it was unsafe, then she should not have gone.  I get that she was stressed out, but come on!  It all came off as sour grapes to me.  

They said bubble, but they didn't actually have a bubble. 

[Tuxcat]

2 hours ago, Pau84 said:

I have two points:

First*

If Kelli would have been a good manager, she would have kept her emotional distance and would not have ventured into weird demented games with favorites. What are these games with favorites? Here is a random list:

1. Morgan Jordan
2. Cassie Trammell
3. Meredith Madden
4. Victoria Kalina

The way how Kelli behaved towards Victoria was and is a disgrace. When a girl that Kelli emotionally doesn't like makes an insignificant mistake, she gets cuts by Kelli. If Victoria falls out of a basic turn she laughs it off. That is NOT an emotional distance. So Kelli could have easily behaved unprofessional and be a friend to Hannah because she does it all the time. You don't get to choose when you behave 'professional' and when not.

Second**

One does not have to be a board certified psychiatrist to see that Hannah is coming into TC with mental issues. This said mental issue cannot be wished away or danced away or hugged away. It needs to be taken seriously, not only by Hannah, but by everyone around her. I do not think that someone with Hannah's past can just ignore the signs and venture into certain high stress activities without giving it a second thought. Should she have come to TC? I say no. Can someone with acute mental issues perform like they need her to perform is in this light an honest concern. Whether Hannah was cut because she voiced concerns about Covid is secondary. What should be considered is that Hannah voiced concerns about the Covid measures under the influence of a mental issue. Two years on the squad should have provided Hannah with enough cases to voice concerns about, yet she did not protest. I do not think it is right to cut someone for voicing concerns, and now we all can see with our own eyes and through Hannah's own voice that there is more at play than only voicing concerns.

Agree with your first point for sure.

Agree with your second point but...

I'm not entirely sure we can all say that Hannah was experiencing a problem with her mental health though? Yes, she has a history of anxiety and depression and yes she cried  and said she was stressed.  But that's not enough really to diagnose someone. Our glimpse into Hannah's reality is so miniscule.

And I still believe, that its very possible that she was stressed mostly because of her frustration with DCC's COVID policies. She said even on the part that aired - "life perspective switch." So she might have been there realizing - "what the heck am I doing here?"

Being sad about the environment you are in and about the difficulties you face does not automatically equal mental problems.

And we have NO idea of what else was said prior to that office visit. We really have no idea what was said during that office visit either. Editing is powerful.

[Holly85]

20 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Agree with your first point for sure.

Agree with your second point but...

I'm not entirely sure we can all say that Hannah was experiencing a problem with her mental health though? Yes, she has a history of anxiety and depression and yes she cried  and said she was stressed.  But that's not enough really to diagnose someone. Our glimpse into Hannah's reality is so miniscule.

And I still believe, that its very possible that she was stressed mostly because of her frustration with DCC's COVID policies. She said even on the part that aired - "life perspective switch." So she might have been there realizing - "what the heck am I doing here?"

Being sad about the environment you are in and about the difficulties you face does not automatically equal mental problems.

And we have NO idea of what else was said prior to that office visit. We really have no idea what was said during that office visit either. Editing is powerful.

Could it be that she was upset that they weren’t wearing masks at all times no matter what ? 

[Stee]

16 hours ago, Texasgirl92 said:

Yes! And don’t get me wrong- everyone was perfectly polite. But Kat and Kelsey both just had a genuine warmth and friendliness to them. 

This is so important to reiterate. The girls do 10 home game performances a year. A YEAR!  Blah blah blah world class blah blah kick to their heads.. at the end of the day, they need more than just dancers. They are PR/Marketing for the Cowboys organization. They wave poms at grocery store openings, chat with fans, pose for photos with veterans at retirement homes and maybe, if they are lucky, do a rare performance with a popular musical act (packaged as part of the deal with the stadium rental). 

For every good dancer, they also need a chatty, charismatic, charming person for meet and greets. Kat may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but she definitely made a positive impression here. I imagine Savannah is the same - her ROTY award proves that. 
I haven’t drank the Koolaid about World Class Performers, but I see them for what they are: Cheerleaders, on and off the turf.  I love great dancing but I’d much rather meet Kat in person than some of the best dancers from seasons past. 

Edit: not to dip my toe into the Hannah discussion but there is something a bit off about a “sad cheerleader” - kinda defeats the purpose?  Also she wasn’t fired. They re-audition every year, knowing they can be cut for all sorts of reasons: gaining weight, making questionable decisions in the past year, not representing the brand properly, etc.  She was cut for reasons she questions but 'fired' is incorrect. And I say this as a Hannah fan!
 

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[Tuxcat]

7 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Could it be that she was upset that they weren’t wearing masks at all times no matter what ? 

Guessing its probably more that it wasn't a true bubble... I don't know.

[Holly85]

4 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Guessing its probably more that it wasn't a true bubble... I don't know.

Maybe cause they went to the stadium for field practice and the fact that let Taylor j come do a one audition 

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[souR77]

Hannah’s office visit was telling of what her state of mind was but also I’m mostly sure they made it seem like she was down the ENTIRE time. I forget which veteran was doing one of those daily vlogs in the bubble but they had Hannah at her side and she seemed happy  on camera so it’s not like she doesn’t know when to put her “DCC cheerleader” happy face on . I don’t expect them to be okay 100% of the time, I mean they’re dancing and working out. Also when they show game day stories on Instagram, they always catch one of them not smiling or putting on a show (I mean if they’re supposed to be smiling and look happy an entire game I would hope they relax their face during break time) and then when they know they’re being filmed or on camera they look happy and smile. 
 

I'm still 75% convinced Hannah’s cut reason is made up by producers. 

[Tuxcat]

4 minutes ago, lexie3248 said:

Hannah’s office visit was telling of what her state of mind was but also I’m mostly sure they made it seem like she was down the ENTIRE time. I forget which veteran was doing one of those daily vlogs in the bubble but they had Hannah at her side and she seemed happy  on camera so it’s not like she doesn’t know when to put her “DCC cheerleader” happy face on . I don’t expect them to be okay 100% of the time, I mean they’re dancing and working out. Also when they show game day stories on Instagram, they always catch one of them not smiling or putting on a show (I mean if they’re supposed to be smiling and look happy an entire game I would hope they relax their face during break time) and then when they know they’re being filmed or on camera they look happy and smile. 
 

I'm still 75% convinced Hannah’s cut reason is made up by producers. 

Yeah I mean even in that deleted scene - the boot buddy zoom - she was very appropriately  'peppy.' LOL. And she looked great in the clip when Judy was applauding "ALL" of group 1's performance. First to admit, I have no idea--- but I just don't ever trust the editing. We've learned that for sure over the years.

[dccfan204]

On 12/23/2020 at 2:13 PM, kalibean said:

Lord someone put me out of my misery:

Hannah's stickers:  Melissa, Neil and SP???  Who is SP?  The gold sticker.

Lexi's stickers:  Kelli & Judy.  (I like Lexi, so this doesn't bug me one little bit.)

Kristen also got one of those gold stickers, and it's blurry on the screen grab, but I also think it's SP.  Marissa didn't get one of Judy's, which I thought was interesting.  And Rachel W didn't get the SP.  

Where's the picture that shows the stickers?

[Lona]

Merry Christmas, everyone! 
 

I know this year has been a tough one for many, myself included, but this forum never ceases to cheer me up and keep me entertained. Y’all are such sweet and fun people. I love that there’s a place to talk about the squad and this show! 🎅

[Pau84]

8 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Agree with your first point for sure.

Agree with your second point but...

I'm not entirely sure we can all say that Hannah was experiencing a problem with her mental health though? Yes, she has a history of anxiety and depression and yes she cried  and said she was stressed.  But that's not enough really to diagnose someone. Our glimpse into Hannah's reality is so miniscule.

And I still believe, that its very possible that she was stressed mostly because of her frustration with DCC's COVID policies. She said even on the part that aired - "life perspective switch." So she might have been there realizing - "what the heck am I doing here?"

Being sad about the environment you are in and about the difficulties you face does not automatically equal mental problems.

And we have NO idea of what else was said prior to that office visit. We really have no idea what was said during that office visit either. Editing is powerful.

I agree with you. The real question that determines everything is whether Hannah was having mental issues.

The key sentences is Hannah’s ‘life perspective switch’. When and why would someone say ‘life perspective switch’? That is not a very common thing to say.

Why would someone cry every day about a life perspective switch? Hannah said that she cried every day during her office visit. A life perspective switch can also be a positive switch, finding Jesus, being saved (which is positive).

I guess we will need to see and hear more about this.

[Agent Gully]

23 hours ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

Finally watching the latest episode - seems a lot is going to go down from this thread, but I notice random things 

seems either the carpet is really messing them up or diva hosiery really isn’t that great...

What looks like a large tear is the color of her hose. If you look above and below the knee cap, you will see it wrapped with tape. The tape is darker than the hose so it looks like it is torn.

On a separate note, I want to wish those who celebrate it, a very Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays to everyone. May 2021 be kinder to all of us.

[KG150]

On 12/23/2020 at 4:55 PM, kamdcc123woo said:

I don't know but based on the way this season has played out thus far on tv and on social ..... I have an inkling that this may be a slow rebrand and in a few seasons Judy will retire, Kash will take over for her. I just feel like they're priming her for that. We'll be stuck with Waco Kelly for a few more years after that (ugh) and then they'll bring in either a former DCC (hopefully Michelle Keys) and then Haley will assume Charlotte (or as I like to call her the crypt keeper)'s role.   It's so blatantly obvious they need new blood in the leadership roles and desperately. 

I don’t mean to laugh but the CRYPT KEEPER comment has me dying 😭

[vanillagum]

just saw alanna posted something on insta about cassie, dani, and elli being her roommates. how awkward for cassie 

[cherryblossom]

Someone mentioned that Hannah having history of anxiety & depression doesn’t mean she has mental health issues.  I must disagree as a health care professional.  You don’t have to have schizophrenia or bipolar to have mental health issues. It is a false assumption that to have anxiety or depression one has to act sad. People mask things that’s why often signs are missed or frankly you may be trying to fake it till you make or are just tired of people asking you what is wrong.  Then again there are those who think if you are just more positive or if you pulled yourself up by your bootstraps you would be better. Sure there are those who clearly you can tell they are in trouble as they don’t care how they look, stop going out etc.  just because someone acts happy, doesn’t mean they are.  How many times have we masked our true feelings about a situation or a relative or coworker? You hear people say they gave no symptoms they were contemplating suicide etc.  I remember a minister of a mega church on the West coast who had a son who had anxiety & depression. The family went out to eat where the son seemed relaxed, happy, & joked around. They came home & the son went upstairs & immediately shot himself.  There are lots of people struggling with depression with symptoms you do & do not see.  I believe Hannah had a lot on her plate & probably also has situational issues with the end of the courses.  If you never experience depression, nor have a friend or family member with it, consider yourself lucky.  Keep in mind that people also believe that like addiction, depression is a sign of moral failing.

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My biggest concern with Kat is that she is and always will be an ambassador risk...