Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[MissAlmond]

4 hours ago, bannana said:

I was wondering why the fans would've picked this episode; Victor's impotency? Kay's facelift? Terry Lester?

Answer: Kay's facelift.  That was a groundbreaking episode at the time.

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

When that guy was cutting Kay's bandages off I was squirming. I kept wondering whether he'd avoid snipping off some of her hair. Perhaps they had actual surgeon handling the scissors but used an actor to say the dialogue.

That was Jeanne Cooper actually having her bandages removed in real time.  So the answer is yes, it was the actual surgeon who removed "Kay's" bandages.  Cooper/Kay's reaction was done in real time too.  I don't recall if the actor doing the "doctor" voiceover lines were dubbed in later or if he was in the room reading them too.  

[Snaporaz]

I remember seeing the episode where Katherine decides to get the facelift.  She went through her morning routine, and she had these things that look like EKG leads that she attached by her hairline to pull the skin up.  Crazy.  I never saw this one, since I was still in school in 1984 and we were VCR-less.  Squeamish me almost passed out when the bandages came off.  I didn't realize that was all happening in real time for JC.

6 hours ago, pearlite said:

Nicely put, peaches!

I did draw back from the FF button when I saw him. He was a whole nuther item compared to PB's version; I don't think they're comparable. In masculine terms, his performances were a tough read for me always, but damn if I'm not a fool for a blond-haired man. [I guess we could perhaps exclude Kale Brown, maybe]

But the amazing naïveté of the scene with Cricket--at least in terms of contract-signing. She was a minor, and little as I know, wouldn't have been able to sign a binding contract. Howeeeeever, was I the only one picking up a less than pristine vibe, shall we say, from their interaction? Subtext ahoy for me...

Nicely put, peaches and pearlite!  I love PB, but Terry Lester's Jack was the guy you couldn't help falling for even though you knew you'd regret it .  And damn if he doesn't look like he really could have been Billy Miller's brother.  My oh my, Li'l Orphan Victor's wonky winky made him vewy vewy gwumpy.  Take two Black T-Shirts of Virility and call somebody else in the morning.  After all these "classic" episodes, we were reminded of a lot of the secondary characters, but this is the first time we saw Joe and Carol.  Stupid Lynn we saw a dozen times, though.

[Cupid Stunt]

6 hours ago, MissAlmond said:

Terry Lester's Jack having a 15 year old sign a contract without legal representation with the sure confidence he would get away it.

Patently illegal without a parent, guardian or chosen representative to cosign the contract with a minor --  Just another reason I disliked TL's Jack Abbott; his ambition was aggressively manipulative, even when it wasn't necessary. Sure, he could turn on the charm with certain individuals (like the way he sweet talked Cricket) and wring what he wanted out of them, but he preferred to maneuver and exploit people (play nice, while colluding with Dina, and trying to get the combination to the lab safe by hovering around Ashley), all for his own means and plots of revenge. TL's Jack Abbott never thought twice to attack his own family members if it would get him what he wanted.

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Now you know why I had a hard time believing Jack #1 ever stepped foot in Vietnam.

The only way TL's Jack Abbott would've survived Vietnam was if he was a King Rat-type scrounger, quid pro quo with compatriots and command alike. TL chewing his way up the Mekong Delta is laughable.  

19 minutes ago, Snaporaz said:

I remember seeing the episode where Katherine decides to get the facelift.  She went through her morning routine, and she had these things that look like EKG leads that she attached by her hairline to pull the skin up.  Crazy.  I never saw this one, since I was still in school in 1984 and we were VCR-less.  Squeamish me almost passed out when the bandages came off.  I didn't realize that was all happening in real time for JC.

I remember Katherine's makeup regimen with the face lift kit. My mother cried for her, while I was fascinated by the intricacy of her preparations to face the world.

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Nicely put, peaches and pearlite!  I love PB, but Terry Lester's Jack was the guy you couldn't help falling for even though you knew you'd regret it .  And damn if he doesn't look like he really could have been Billy Miller's brother.  My oh my, Li'l Orphan Victor's wonky winky made him vewy vewy gwumpy. Take two Black T-Shirts of Virility and call somebody else in the morning. After all these "classic" episodes, we were reminded of a lot of the secondary characters, but this is the first time we saw Joe and Carol.  Stupid Lynn we saw a dozen times, though.

And the love of a good woman will heal him for future sexxxy times. <blerg>

Edited July 22, 2020 by Cupid Stunt

[boes]

Today's "Back in Ye Olden Times" episode was chockfull of delights! 

There's Katherine's surgery, Jack's skullduggery, Cricket's "Wisconsin Teen String Cheese Queen" look, and my favorite-for-all-the-wrong-reasons storyline, Victor's broken Johnson rod. 

****Warning**** My 13 year old boy mind will be writing the next few lines....

The dialogue provided by the show was enough to elicit juvenile snickers and snorts without me needing to add much at all.  The talk between the dark-haired woman (who is she?) and Nikki alone was enough to get me laughing....

"I don't want to put pressure on him", "You have to put some pressure on him",   "He'll withdraw into his own little shell", "He thinks he has no reason to get up in the morning".

One word, Mr. Newman - Pressure might be just what you need.  There's a procedure that can keep you from withdrawing into your own little shell, and stay out of the pool - Shrinkage!  Oh yeah, you WILL be getting up in the morning, that's just how it all works.

I'm surprised that when Douglas offered Victor a drink he didn't ask him if he wanted a stiff one.  Maybe that's what Victor gets during the upcoming Christmas episode for that year? 

Nikki ought to look on the bright side.  If Victor cannot, as he says, "Be a Man" again, she can look forward to an extra three minutes a day that she didn't have before.  There's a bright side to everything.

When Nikki said she was going to bring Victoria down to see Victor and he roared back that he didn't want to see her, I was waiting for him to explain that right now the only thing he wants to see is his penis.  The man was always clear on his priorities.

Even without all his parts in working order, Victor still managed to be a HUGE dick.

Terry Lester as Jack!  Now this was a pleasant surprise.  I only knew Y&R in a sort of drive-by way until Peter Bergman took over the role in 1989, and I'd never seen much of Lester's work.  His Jack is also mesmerizing - very different from PB, but I sure liked what I saw today.  Seeing Marla Adams again was a treat.  I'd love to see more of this Mergeron storyline.

LLB was so young.  She really looked like a young teenager, not yet grown into her adult face. 

I remember the attention Jeanne Cooper got for her facelift storyline, and not just in the soap press.  Her doing it in real life and having her bandages removed in real time on the show was a big deal. 

AMC had done a similar storyline in 1974.  Eileen Letchworth, the actor who played Margo Flax had a facelift in real life, had the bandages removed in real time and recovered in real time, much as Jeanne Cooper did.  IMO, the soaps really did a service to their viewers to show plastic surgery and both the recovery and results, just as they did with so many other current concerns back in the day. 

I loved how supportive Liz was of Katherine, what a good friend she was.  Does anyone remember if this was when she was still working for Katherine? 

[bannana]

2 hours ago, boes said:

The dialogue provided by the show was enough to elicit juvenile snickers and snorts without me needing to add much at all. 

2 hours ago, boes said:

The talk between the dark-haired woman (who is she?) and Nikki

Julia, Pricktor's ex-wife. She was stepping out on him so he locked her beau Michael in a cage in the basement and fed him rats.  Apparently Paul Williams fed the caged boyfriend when Pricktor was not there!  Paul was told Michael was Prick's relative who had mental health issues!  I guess Paul was okay with this kind of treatment of another human being!?  Michael was played by the actor who play Philip Brent on AMC.

Re Terry Lester as Jack. When they recently did the flashback storyline with the young actors playing Jack and Ashley etc., it really didn't ring true.  The young Jack they portrayed was nothing like the younger Jack we knew.  

[BoffoDaWonderSheep]

8 hours ago, boes said:

The talk between the dark-haired woman (who is she?)

That was Julia, one of Victor’s ex-wives. He once had her lover held prisoner. I think there might have been rats involved?

Edited July 22, 2020 by BoffoDaWonderSheep
Typo: lover, not liver.

[boes]

2 hours ago, BoffoDaWonderSheep said:

That was Julia, one of Victor’s ex-wives. He once had her lover held prisoner. I think there might have been rats involved?

Thanks, Boffodawondersheep!  She was remarkably forgiving, wasn't she?

Maybe she did a happy dance after she left?

[MissAlmond]

14 hours ago, boes said:

IMO, the soaps really did a service to their viewers to show plastic surgery and both the recovery and results, just as they did with so many other current concerns back in the day. 

Soaps really were. Unlike movies or primetime TV, it wasn't a one time thing.  Soaps could explore issues for weeks, months, years if they wanted to.  It was soap operas at their best.  

14 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

The only way TL's Jack Abbott would've survived Vietnam was if he was a King Rat-type scrounger, quid pro quo with compatriots and command alike. TL chewing his way up the Mekong Delta is laughable.  

Terry Lester's Jack never would have left the states.  He would have made sure Vietnam wasn't even an option for him.  It's why I said the Luan storyline would have better suited for Jack's college days.  Terry Lester's Jack (a/k/a Early Jack) would have quickly moved on from his girlfriend sudden disappearance.  Years later Peter Bergman's Jack (a/k/a Mature Jack) would been haunted by the memory of Luan and searched for her. Perfect meshing of both Lester and Bergman's portrayal of Jack.  

16 hours ago, ByaNose said:

LLB was truly dreadful. She has improved somewhat but she would never made it past her original 16 week contract if Dad Bell wasn’t in charge.

That's what parents are for!  LOL

[Cupid Stunt]

17 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

The only way TL's Jack Abbott would've survived Vietnam was if he was a King Rat-type scrounger, quid pro quo with compatriots and command alike. TL chewing his way up the Mekong Delta is laughable.  

2 hours ago, MissAlmond said:

Terry Lester's Jack never would have left the states.  He would have made sure Vietnam wasn't even an option for him.  It's why I said the Luan storyline would have better suited for Jack's college days.  Terry Lester's Jack (a/k/a Early Jack) would have quickly moved on from his girlfriend sudden disappearance.  Years later Peter Bergman's Jack (a/k/a Mature Jack) would been haunted by the memory of Luan and searched for her. Perfect meshing of both Lester and Bergman's portrayal of Jack.  

Interesting ... When would Jack have met Luan? Post-Fall of Saigon, spring of 1975? She would have been one of the Teenage Boat People (a college boyfriend played in a garage band of the same name) leaving the country ahead of the Communist PAVN ( People's Army of Vietnam) and Viet Cong, to be resettled in the US?

[MissAlmond]

39 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Interesting ... When would Jack have met Luan? Post-Fall of Saigon, spring of 1975? She would have been one of the Teenage Boat People (a college boyfriend played in a garage band of the same name) leaving the country ahead of the Communist PAVN ( People's Army of Vietnam) and Viet Cong, to be resettled in the US?

Me if I written Jack/Luan Y&R:  See my post above.  No Vietnam period.  They would have first met in college.

Bill Bell and his Writer's Room Y&R Reality:  No idea.  I don't remember when/where/how/war timeline Jack met Luan in Vietnam.  Perhaps someone else does.  

Edited July 22, 2020 by MissAlmond

[CountryGirl]

Jack met Luan in 1974, so not long before the war ended.

[babyhouseman]

9 hours ago, BoffoDaWonderSheep said:

That was Julia, one of Victor’s ex-wives. He once had her lover held prisoner. I think there might have been rats involved?

She came back for a show anniversary a couple of years ago. Victor was in the hospital for something. She should've put poison in his IV. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Lol  what was it with Jill and weddings and those hats she'd wear? Nobody else wore hats but her. And today she had on matching gloves too.

Wonder why Dru and Neil didn't have their wedding in a church?

I liked Christine's blowout.

Apparently Michael Baldwin had gone feral. Oy.

That was a great toast Brad made to the newlyweds.

Heh, did Jill take a couple of benzos before she arrived at the wedding or was this when she found out she was pregnant despite John's vasectomy?

That wedding cake seemed awfully small to me for so many guests. It probably needed at least three tiers unless the slices were going to be paper thin.

Poor Lynne. Forever pining after Paul. 💔

So who was that Hillary person who called Christine? I don't recall ever seeing her before.

Funny for Kay to be standing with the women trying to catch Dru's bouquet. Trying to keep her options open, lol?

There didn't appear to be any Newmans at the wedding unless I overlooked them. Odd.

Holy moly, that was some peignor Jill had on. Fur cuffs? I actually liked Dru's wedding night set better.

[dbklmt]

20 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Heh, did Jill take a couple of benzos before she arrived at the wedding or was this when she found out she was pregnant despite John's vasectomy?

Don't know but I would bet it was since Jill put down the champagne glass not drinking any and that would explain why she did that.

[boes]

17 hours ago, bannana said:

Julia, Pricktor's ex-wife. She was stepping out on him so he locked her beau Michael in a cage in the basement and fed him rats.  Apparently Paul Williams fed the caged boyfriend when Pricktor was not there!  Paul was told Michael was Prick's relative who had mental health issues!  I guess Paul was okay with this kind of treatment of another human being!?  Michael was played by the actor who play Philip Brent on AMC.

Re Terry Lester as Jack. When they recently did the flashback storyline with the young actors playing Jack and Ashley etc., it really didn't ring true.  The young Jack they portrayed was nothing like the younger Jack we knew.  

Victor mistreated Richard Hatch????  How DARE him!  Even Erica Kane never tried THAT.

Yes, I confess, loved me some Philip Brent/Tara Martin back in the stone age.

 

[Sake614]

On 7/17/2020 at 9:52 PM, boes said:

I knew color tv existed, but I didn't actually see one until I was 18 and my parents, to celebrate me moving out, I think, bought the first one in our neighborhood. That was 1970

We got our first color tv in 1968 or 69. It was in my parents bedroom and I remember very clearly watching the wizard of oz in color for the first time. I would have been 8 or 9 and was in complete awe when Dorothy stepped out of the house into the vivid colors of Oz.

[crowsworks]

21 hours ago, boes said:

 

I remember the attention Jeanne Cooper got for her facelift storyline, and not just in the soap press.  Her doing it in real life and having her bandages removed in real time on the show was a big deal. 

AMC had done a similar storyline in 1974.  Eileen Letchworth, the actor who played Margo Flax had a facelift in real life, had the bandages removed in real time and recovered in real time, much as Jeanne Cooper did.  IMO, the soaps really did a service to their viewers to show plastic surgery and both the recovery and results, just as they did with so many other current concerns back in the day. 

I loved how supportive Liz was of Katherine, what a good friend she was.  Does anyone remember if this was when she was still working for Katherine? 

When the actress playing Bert Baur(SP) lost her leg they wrote it in - therapy and all.  Charita Baur? She seemed like her and Papa Baur were on from when i was a toddler

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Even Erica Kane never tried THAT

Probably because Erica was too busy screwing Philip's father and son.

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She should've put poison in his IV. 

Heh. For some reason all Victor's women eventually forgive him no matter what he's done to them. I bet if Diane's corpse reanimated the first thing it would do is zombie walk out to the Newman ranch to try to get back with Victor. Because nothing says lovin' like throwing you out of a moving ambulance. 😒

Edited July 23, 2020 by Joimiaroxeu

[Snaporaz]

22 hours ago, boes said:

Today's "Back in Ye Olden Times" episode was chockfull of delights! 

There's Katherine's surgery, Jack's skullduggery, Cricket's "Wisconsin Teen String Cheese Queen" look, and my favorite-for-all-the-wrong-reasons storyline, Victor's broken Johnson rod. 

****Warning**** My 13 year old boy mind will be writing the next few lines....

The dialogue provided by the show was enough to elicit juvenile snickers and snorts without me needing to add much at all.  The talk between the dark-haired woman (who is she?) and Nikki alone was enough to get me laughing....

"I don't want to put pressure on him", "You have to put some pressure on him",   "He'll withdraw into his own little shell", "He thinks he has no reason to get up in the morning".

One word, Mr. Newman - Pressure might be just what you need.  There's a procedure that can keep you from withdrawing into your own little shell, and stay out of the pool - Shrinkage!  Oh yeah, you WILL be getting up in the morning, that's just how it all works.

I'm surprised that when Douglas offered Victor a drink he didn't ask him if he wanted a stiff one.  Maybe that's what Victor gets during the upcoming Christmas episode for that year? 

Nikki ought to look on the bright side.  If Victor cannot, as he says, "Be a Man" again, she can look forward to an extra three minutes a day that she didn't have before.  There's a bright side to everything.

When Nikki said she was going to bring Victoria down to see Victor and he roared back that he didn't want to see her, I was waiting for him to explain that right now the only thing he wants to see is his penis.  The man was always clear on his priorities.

Even without all his parts in working order, Victor still managed to be a HUGE dick.

Oh, boesy, my 13 year old boy mind thanks your 13 year old boy mind for recounting Victor's ding-dong doldrums with such sensitivity.  You weren't too hard on him at all. 

Dru and Neil were so freaking adorable together.  Dru handled that piece of cake like a champ.  You could tell she was determined not to ruin her make-up with icing.  And I agree that cake was way too small.  I think the ceremony did take place in a church.  KSJ's dad played the minister.  Poor delusional Lynn could never tell that Paul just wasn't that into her.  She did receive the Mary Williams Seal of Approval, which sealed her fate.  Oh well, she'll never have his child that he won't help her raise.  

[Joimiaroxeu]

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I think the ceremony did take place in a church.  KSJ's dad played the minister. 

Just double-checked the episode. About a minute and a half in Dru thanks Kay and Rex for letting her and Neil have the wedding in their home. Rex and Kay responded in ways that confirmed what Dru said. Maybe the Chancellor mansion had a chapel?

It sounded like Neil was working for Jabot at the time so what was his and Dru's connection to Kay that she would let them have a big event like that in her house? Seems to me the Abbott estate would've made more sense because of the Mamie connection.

[Snaporaz]

They showed clips from the ceremony on the KSJ tribute episode.  Even though that was only a year or two ago, it feels like about 15 years.  I thought I remembered it being a church, but it could have been Katherine's house.  

[boes]

Well, Michael's never getting THAT security deposit back.

John was certainly pushy and chauvinistic about the baby issue with Jill.  Unless they'd talked about it before they got married and she changed her mind afterwards?  I don't remember, anyone else?

But maybe he had a premonition that instead of a loving and lovely child they'd have together, that instead, from that union, a  Billy ButtBiscuit would burst forth - baby, 6 pounds 7 ounces, nostrils, 11 pounds 2 ounces and if you put your ear up to them you could hear the ocean.  But that particular horror was yet to unfold......

 

Edited July 23, 2020 by boes

[Cupid Stunt]

11 hours ago, boes said:

Well, Michael's never getting THAT security deposit back.

Poor little Krazy Mike ... Just didn't have the wherewithal to pickup the sledgehammer and give the brickwork a couple energetic whacks?

And those delusional fantasies, featuring Cricket screaming in the background ... Laissez les bon temps rouler!

<shudder>

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John was certainly pushy and chauvinistic about the baby issue with Jill.  Unless they'd talked about it before they got married and she changed her mind afterwards?  I don't remember, anyone else?

John and Jill didn't discuss having children before they were married, but that didn't stop Jack from inserting his Plot Plot Plotting against any of Jill's ambitions to sink her craws permanently into the the Abbott Family Dynasty -- Such as they are.

Jack convinced John to have a vasectomy without telling Jill. And John eventually sprung it on her ... four, three, two, one ... Jill goes ballistic. She's appalled John had the procedure without discussing it with her, John (in his patrician fashion) condescendingly defends his actions, and Jack is in hog heaven his Plotting against both his father and Jill has had it's desired effect. At some point Jill feel ill from the turmoil and goes to her doctor, finding out she's pregative (at the point of yesterday's episode).

Too bad Jill didn't let John prattle on about his decision to have the vasectomy; that would have been the perfect opportunity to tell him her 'news.'

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But maybe he had a premonition that instead of a loving and lovely child they'd have together, that instead, from that union, a  Billy ButtBiscuit would burst forth - baby, 6 pounds 7 ounces, nostrils, 11 pounds 2 ounces and if you put your ear up to them you could hear the ocean.  But that particular horror was yet to unfold......

John could have never imagined the waste of skin NotBilly would become.

[SweePea59]

On 7/21/2020 at 8:15 PM, geauxaway said:

 

 

On 7/21/2020 at 10:10 PM, Snaporaz said:

I remember seeing the episode where Katherine decides to get the facelift.  She went through her morning routine, and she had these things that look like EKG leads that she attached by her hairline to pull the skin up.  Crazy.  I never saw this one, since I was still in school in 1984 and we were VCR-less.  Squeamish me almost passed out when the bandages came off.  I didn't realize that was all happening in real time for JC.

I purposefully did not watch it the first time it aired. And I did not watch it this time. Nuh-uh. I am way too squeamish.

3 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Poor little Krazy Mike ... Just didn't have the wherewithal to pickup the sledgehammer and give the brickwork a couple energetic whacks?

 

John and Jill didn't discuss having children before they were married, but that didn't stop Jack from inserting his Plot Plot Plotting against any of Jill's ambitions to sink her craws permanently into the the Abbott Family Dynasty -- Such as they are.

Didn't Mikey start digging through the wall with a spoon at first? I definitely remember a spoon.

I remember OG Jill, (after BD left and then came back, and since Jill had been through a lot she became bitter & conniving so I always thought of her as the 3rd Jill at this point in time, and although there were a couple of short lived Jills other than DA they all count as the 2nd Jill to me) ahem, anyway as I was saying, I remember Jill trying to hang curtains to induce a fake abortion for her fake pregnancy but Mamie caught her! At least that's what I recall.

Now, was I seeing things or was that Bobby Marsiano as a waiter in the opening scene at Dru & Neil's reception at Mrs.C's?

[SweePea59]

And I'm sorry, but no way in hell did anyone, (aside from Katy Perry), request to see that stupid episode of Katy Perry at Useless Pile from the worst days of Y&R. That had to be simply to promote her new album. Well, haha, I'm not buying it. Waste of a retro day. 

Edited July 23, 2020 by SweePea59

[Joimiaroxeu]

Oh wow, I barely remembered this Adam. Is that actor the one who balked at doing a relatively tame love scene with another man and quit/got fired?

Sharon throwing shade on Katy Perry's look. Girl bye.

Gloria was working that DVF wrap dress. It's hard to go wrong with a classic.

Jeff appeared to have a fading shiner. Who punched him?

Nick in that lime green sweater. I don't recall pastels for men being a look in 2008.

Please, that was not a $2k blouse, Lauren. Fenmore's retail markup must be ridiculous.

Amber was a wannabe fashion designer. Hmm. Why was she not back in LA then?

Kay looked fabulous as usual but I can't figure out why she was sitting in an office in Jabot.

If it's Thursday, EB must be reading his lines off the props. 😑

Wonder why Amber the starfcuker didn't mention to Katy Perry that she knew Usher? In the biblical sense. 🙄

Look at Kevin trying to act all cool and hip to what the kids were putting down. Pssht. Wasn't he knocking on 40 by then?  😼

Heh, meanwhile, Jack was decidedly not down with the Katy Perry Experience. He looked utterly pissed. What a fuddy-duddy, hah, hah.

I'm confused. Did Nick own Restless Style or did Jack? And wasn't Billy involved at some point?

Edited July 23, 2020 by Joimiaroxeu

[peacheslatour]

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Amber was a wannabe fashion designer. 

She always looked vaguely sweaty to me. Not quite clean or something.

[MissAlmond]

How, when, and why was Victor married to Cher?

 

 

[Cupid Stunt]

6 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

And I'm sorry, but no way in hell did anyone, (aside from Katy Perry), request to see that stupid episode of Katy Perry at Useless Pile from the worst days of Y&R. That had to be simply to promote her new album. Well, haha, I'm not buying it. Waste of a retro day. 

Who knew Jack was attempting to parallel Useless Pile with the Town and Country/Women's Wear Daily? Considering the nematode brain trust running the magazine, Jack had his work cut out for him. I thought Useless was a trend of the moment/gossip rag.

And what was the big deal with the lavender mess Sharon styled for Katy Perry? No accessories, black tights, flat hair and makeup washed out in the flash? <snore> She should have worn the moto jacket for the photo shoot; at least it was visually interesting, unlike the satin prom reject.

 

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Amber was a wannabe fashion designer. 

4 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

She always looked vaguely sweaty to me. Not quite clean or something.

 

That's the sweat of desperation on Amber.

 

1 hour ago, MissAlmond said:

How, when, and why was Victor married to Cher?

Sabrina

Victor was between true loves and poor Sabrina was the victim.

Edited July 24, 2020 by Cupid Stunt
Sabrina not Serena -- Victor's had too many serial wives during The Corona break

[babyhouseman]

10 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said:

 

 

 

 

Serena

Was this Sabrina who the old coot impregnated and she died in a wreck?

[boes]

17 minutes ago, MissAlmond said:

How, when, and why was Victor married to Cher?

 

 

He thought Sabrina could Turn Back Time.

[boes]

Joimiaroxeu, as I remember it, Nick sold The magazine to Billy and he got Phyllis with it. 

[MissAlmond]

39 minutes ago, boes said:

He thought Sabrina could Turn Back Time.

Did Cher/Sabrina eventually slap Victor, telling him to "Snap out of it!"?

[boes]

8 minutes ago, MissAlmond said:

Did Cher/Sabrina eventually slap Victor, telling him to "Snap out of it!"?

That's a Pay Per View moment!

[Runningwild]

“Why is Uncle Devon marrying Grandpa’s wife?” LOL that was awesome, Charlie. 

[KLovestoShop]

When one looks back at Victor’s life, and all the women he’s banged, wouldn’t they begin to realize that if you married him, or just banged him just to say you did, you would either suffer terribly or die a terrible death.  Didn’t any of them realize that Victor is nothing more than owner of The Schlong of Doom?  

[boes]

Just now, KLovestoShop said:

When one looks back at Victor’s life, and all the women he’s banged, wouldn’t they begin to realize that if you married him, or just banged him just to say you did, you would either suffer terribly or die a terrible death.  Didn’t any of them realize that Victor is nothing more than owner of The Schlong of Doom?  

If that didn't kill you, listening to the orphanage story for the 150th time would.

I wonder if Victor's eulogies all consisted of "You all have a nice day, now"? 

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, boes said:

If that didn't kill you, listening to the orphanage story for the 150th time would.

I wonder if Victor's eulogies all consisted of "You all have a nice day, now"? 

"Nobody helped me dig that grave, yougotthat? I had to dig it myself, with my own hands, from the top all the way down."

[Joimiaroxeu]

Ugh, that storyline with Neil, Hilary, and Devon was one of the worst YR has ever done, IMO. I know the show wanted to write a plot that would allow them to keep the actress on board while she was on maternity leave but I wish they'd found a better way. I don't think there was ever any coming back for Neil from what he did to Hilary.

Hey, it's the human block of wood again. Yay. And Sharon had a baby wooden block on board. 😮

Harding. Now there was a solid hunk of meat. 🙂

So this was after the reveal of Marco but before Phyllis decided she had to screw Jack's brother because she couldn't handle her Marco memories. Okay.

Poor Charlie and Mattie, to have that perpetual d-bag Cane as a father.

Charlie: Daddy, some kids at school said Grandma Hilary was a ho because she hugged Uncle Devon behind Grandpa Neil's back.
Mattie: Yeah. What's a ho, Daddy?
Cane: <gulp>

That Kyle. I'd forgotten about him. Meanwhile, it was so silly to me to have Kevin running with Noah, Summer, and Kyle. He must be at least 10 - 15 years older than them.

Such good casting with young Mattie and Charlie. They really did look to me like they could be CK's children.

Lol, all that tricky camera work and use of gigantic props to try to hide MM's pregnancy. IIRC she was looking like she was ready to pop by this time. 🤗

Guess Neil decided he couldn't hold his peace. 😈

[peacheslatour]

11 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Ugh, that storyline with Neil, Hilary, and Devon was one of the worst YR has ever done, IMO. I know the show wanted to write a plot that would allow them to keep the actress on board while she was on maternity leave but I wish they'd found a better way. I don't think there was ever any coming back for Neil from what he did to Hilary.

Hey, it's the human block of wood again. Yay. And Sharon had a baby wooden block on board. 😮

Harding. Now there was a solid hunk of meat. 🙂

So this was after the reveal of Marco but before Phyllis decided she had to screw Jack's brother because she couldn't handle her Marco memories. Okay.

Poor Charlie and Mattie, to have that perpetual d-bag Cane as a father.

Charlie: Daddy, some kids at school said Grandma Hilary was a ho because she hugged Uncle Devon behind Grandpa Neil's back.
Mattie: Yeah. What's a ho, Daddy?
Cane: <gulp>

That Kyle. I'd forgotten about him. Meanwhile, it was so silly to me to have Kevin running with Noah, Summer, and Kyle. He must be at least 10 - 15 years older than them.

Such good casting with young Mattie and Charlie. They really did look to me like they could be CK's children.

Lol, all that tricky camera work and use of gigantic props to try to hide MM's pregnancy. IIRC she was looking like she was ready to pop by this time. 🤗

Guess Neil decided he couldn't hold his peace. 😈

From what I've read, Julia Louis Dreyfus was pregnant two or three times during Seinfeld's run. They had her in giant coats, big purses in front of her, standing behind furniture, etc.

[dbklmt]

On 7/23/2020 at 2:52 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Oh wow, I barely remembered this Adam. Is that actor the one who balked at doing a relatively tame love scene with another man and quit/got fired?

Yup that's him.  He started on Feb. 12, 2008 and departed the role in Mid-May 2009.  He did quit and here's his statement why...

https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-young-and-the-restless/news/4355/chris-engen-statement-on-quitting-young-and-the-res/

Looks like he's had no television appearances since he left but he does have two credits listed for two films both in 2012: Easy Rider: the Ride Back and a short, Redcheck Romance.  Have a feeling that he's no longer in the entertainment business as an actor.     

[babyhouseman]

3 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

From what I've read, Julia Louis Dreyfus was pregnant two or three times during Seinfeld's run. They had her in giant coats, big purses in front of her, standing behind furniture, etc.

As the World Turns had two pregnant actresses and put them in comas in some kind of experiment somebody was doing.  

[Snaporaz]

47 years worth of episodes to choose from, and this one was picked as a fan favorite?  Nice to have a reminder of how thoroughly they trashed Neil's character.  At least Detective Hard-on and Marisa brought the pretty.  Dummer solved the case with The Ring Tone!  Of course she did.  Thank gods Garden Gnome Kyle was there to offer to switch up her tea after her three remaining brain cells did somersaults remembering The Ring Tone.  How hilarious that Noah was rationalizing how quickly he got over the death of his fiancée, who looked like one of those animationic anchormodels on Fux News.  But who the hell was Tobias?  There were three victims?  I've totally blanked most of the details of that stupid Scooby-Doo story.  Ooofah, Dylan was so freaking terriblzzzzzzzzzzz.....        

[MissAlmond]

19 hours ago, Runningwild said:

“Why is Uncle Devon marrying Grandpa’s wife?”

The smartest question ever asked in Geona City.  Give that kid a medal!

[geauxaway]

On 7/23/2020 at 4:52 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Nick in that lime green sweater. I don't recall pastels for men being a look in 2008.

HA!  I was talking to my friend on the phone and said the exact same thing about Nick’s sweater.  I called it Gatorade.  
 

 

[Cupid Stunt]

13 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

47 years worth of episodes to choose from, and this one was picked as a fan favorite?  Nice to have a reminder of how thoroughly they trashed Neil's character.  At least Detective Hard-on and Mariss brought the pretty. Dummer solved the case with The Ring Tone!  Of course she did.  Thank gods Garden Gnome Kyle was there to offer to switch up her tea after her three remaining brain cells did somersaults remembering The Ring Tone.  How hilarious that Noah was rationalizing how quickly he got over the death of his fiancée, who looked like one of those animationic anchormodels on Fux News.  But who the hell was Tobias?  There were three victims?  I've totally blanked most of the details of that stupid Scooby-Doo story.  Ooofah, Dylan was so freaking terriblzzzzzzzzzzz.....        

How delicious to see Detective Harding and Sweet Marissa again -- Two worthy characters and skilled actors totally wasted on the Marco Plague and blinkered writing skills of the former Idiots in Charge.

 

Det. Mark Harding could still be policing the town, his association with Marco undiscovered, flexing and boinking random Genoa City aging ingenues. Playing the well-meaning corrupt cop with a heart of brass, under the nose of Chief Williams

 Hmmm ... Yes.

 

Sweet Marissa should have become a loyal ally of Jack's at Jabot by him hiring her from the beginning, and that would have kept her out of Noah's inexpert gropings on Nick and Ol'Hammertoes Underpants dropcloth.

More lost opportunities ... 

 

Kind-of interesting episode: Neil on the Road to Silver Briefcase of Revenge-ville, but I detested the Darvon/Hillary 1.0 miasma. Wooden Dylan forcing his face to emote was a good laugh.

Edited July 25, 2020 by Cupid Stunt

[CountryGirl]

Apparently, the Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy was in town to see Victoria today.

[peacheslatour]

2 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

Apparently, the Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy was in town to see Victoria today.

Beat me daddy, eight to the bar.

[boes]

15 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

Apparently, the Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy was in town to see Victoria today.

 

13 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Beat me daddy, eight to the bar.

 

[SiouxB]

I could not concentrate on one word coming out of Victoria’s mouth with that hideous thing on top of her head