Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[lgprimes]

Anybody else ready and waiting for Ashland to CLEAN OUT the Newman family now that his “experimental treatment” is “miraculously” working?

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Anybody else ready and waiting for Ashland to CLEAN OUT the Newman family now that his “experimental treatment” is “miraculously” working?

HAIL YAH! I've been waiting for that ever since Ashland showed up. And I don't believe he was ever sick either so he can throw that in their faces too. (But I guess somebody would have to kill him since the Newmans aren't allowed to lose. Sigh.)

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What part of "she dumped you for your sister" is unclear to him?

The part snuggled in his boxer briefs.😏

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What part of "she dumped you for your sister" is unclear to him?

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

The part snuggled in his boxer briefs.😏

####DEAD#### Joimiaroxeu, you done killed me dead!

All that's left to say, with that image burned in my brain is....

[peacheslatour]

1 hour ago, boes said:

####DEAD#### Joimiaroxeu, you done killed me dead!

All that's left to say, with that image burned in my brain is....

Insanity later. 

[deirdra]

4 hours ago, lgprimes said:

Anybody else ready and waiting for Ashland to CLEAN OUT the Newman family now that his “experimental treatment” is “miraculously” working?

I've been thinking this from Day 1, esp. since he had an excuse for Victoria to not accompany him to any of his doctor's appointments or miracle cures and Victoria never questioned it. And only twice has he seemed dizzy or nauseous while alone in a room, but someone soon joined him so he probably heard them coming and he started acting so they'd come in to witness him in the midst of one of his symptoms. It won't matter if Victoria or Adam buys Chance Com because soon it will all belong to Ashland. It would serve the Newmans right if he hired BillyBoy to run it.

Edited December 11, 2021 by deirdra

[Cupid Stunt]

5 hours ago, boes said:

Random thought - Why doesn't Devon make a bid for Chancecomm?  He could use it to promote his music business, make it an entertainment type media site, he has some experience with Hillary's old show and he's got the money. It would put him in with the other business types, i.e. Victor, Jack, Adam and widen his storyline opportunities.  It might even freshen everything up a little.

I thought when Lily was talking with Darvon about the Chance Dot Com/NotBilly debacle, someone would suggest Darvon throw some cash in that direction. But it was <crickets>.

A renamed Chance Dot Com might expand on merchandizing what Darvon has already in place at his recording company (Is that under the Hamilton/Winters corporate umbrella?). It's hard to say.

Darvon doesn't appear to spend much time spinning the grindstone of billionaire corporate stuff. If something is work-related it happens in a restaurant or off his coffee table; he has no office at GCAC any longer and never refers to any member of staff. Darvon actually doing something not related to ministering to his flock at the Church of the Magic 8 Ball, ruminating about Bowie or fucking Hillary 2.0 would be a 180° change from how TIIC have been writing his character for years.

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ETA - I thought Noah was verging on creepy yesterday, at least a bit, with his covert glances at Tessa.  What part of "she dumped you for your sister" is unclear to him?

<Shudder>

Noah doesn't care that she's in a relationship with Mariah as long as he gets positive reinforcement from the oblivious Tessa. Noah's also got Darvon and Sharon on board with his working with Tessa -- More encouragement.

Noah is becoming more enamored with Tessa and pursues contact with her regularly; he's all compliments and praise about her music. Mariah has an inkling that there's something going on but might be dismissing it because she's been emotionally off kilter for so long she doesn't know the difference between reality and emotionally-driven imaginings -- Good thing Mariah's working at Jabot where her faulty decision-making processes won't matter.

[SweePea59]

16 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said:

Mariah has an inkling that there's something going on but might be dismissing it because she's been emotionally off kilter for so long she doesn't know the difference between reality and emotionally-driven imaginings

Think they'll have her try to push Tessa and Noah together?

[peacheslatour]

9 minutes ago, SweePea59 said:

Think they'll have her try to push Tessa and Noah together?

So she can have her half brother's kid or something?

[SweePea59]

Who the hell knows what idiotic agenda they'd give her. Could be that, could be that she's so filled with discontent that she'll push everyone away like Nick is doing, and think that she just wants Tessa to be happy, could be that she might get the idea to have a baby of her own with Darvon as they wallow in their feelings for Dombowie, could be something even stupider.

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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So she can have her half brother's kid or something?

I got no problem with that. What if Tessa and Noah had stayed together to begin with and had a child. and then later Mariah and Tessa became a couple? Same difference. What would be weird to me is if Noah volunteered to be Tessa and Mariah's sperm donor. AFAIC Y&R needs to banish sperm donation from all future storylines. due to the fcukery they've created with Devon and Abby.

I'm actually working out a scenario where Mariah and Chance drunkenly commiserate over Dominic (he's not really bonding, she can't really let go), end up in bed, and Mariah soon finds herself pregnant. Or I guess it could be Tessa and Chance but Noah seems more likely for Tessa I think.

[Cupid Stunt]

3 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

Think they'll have her try to push Tessa and Noah together?

3 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

So she can have her half brother's kid or something?

 

 

3 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

Who the hell knows what idiotic agenda they'd give her. Could be that, could be that she's so filled with discontent that she'll push everyone away like Nick is doing, and think that she just wants Tessa to be happy, could be that she might get the idea to have a baby of her own with Darvon as they wallow in their feelings for Dombowie, could be something even stupider.

 

Creating a situation where Tessa and Noah successfully mate for impregnation would be a carefully calculated, premeditated plan on Mariah's part. And would be a pathetically Soapy choice for TIIC to take Mariah on her sacred journey to have a baby to replace Bowie to fix her emotionally warped life.

It would crush Mariah if Tessa and Noah unite, fall in like, because they actually care about each other. Replacement Bowie will live with them, and Mariah's manipulations would be for nothing.

If TIIC want to further degrade Mariah, as they have with other characters, that would do it.

 

I've hated how Mariah has been written as an incubator, a victim of her maternity to Bowie and hormonally unbalanced. Why make Abby's stupid Baby Rabies story worse by debilitating Mariah's character too? For irrational reasons, Mariah cannot wait a year before getting pregative again, and tries to strongarm Tessa into having a baby. Tessa declines, but Mariah is not appeased. They have no home to care for a baby, and don't appear to be looking for one. Why not find a place to live and prepare that for a child and then get pregnant? What's the hurry, other than being in a hormonal and emotional storm because Mariah obsessed with Bowie?

With Noah, I was hoping Mariah would have the wherewithal to see Noah was wooing Tessa and have her call him out for his crass and inappropriate behavior. Tessa needs to be informed that Noah still has feelz for her, and to be less personal with him.

[peacheslatour]

I liked Victor laying the facts on Nick. About time and he was right, if he'd asked for Banana's advice and disagreed with it, Nick would have gotten even more bent out of shape than he did.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Okay, Chance was looking a bit nattier today in his suit, shirt, and tie that were not brown in color. Progress!

Must be hanky-panky night in GC. 🍆🍑🍌🍒

Nikki the Newman family enforcer does not play. Don't make her pull out her gat, Nick and Victor.

Oh Victor, who gives a flying fig whether Adam likes Billy? Adam killed Billy's child. That beats a exposé airing out his dirty laundry every day of week. Periodt.

They didn't waste any time objectifying the new Chance's body, heh. Looks to me like he's got it going on--at least with what we got to see. Not sure why his chest was so shiny however. 🙄

Couch sex tho. Abby and Chance, your guests sit on that sofa. Meanwhile, you have a mansion full of bedrooms you could have used instead. Such nastiness. 😑

Whee, in the post-coital bliss the truth comes out. Chance was running away from Abby and all her baby dramaz, which were only beginning when he left. A lot of us wished we could've run away from it too, Chance.

Amanda, Devon gave away more than just pieces of his heart. Dominic is whole human being. Stop trying to romanticize the mistake Devon made when he insisted on siring Abby's baby but not having a parental role in his first child's life. Grrr.

Nick is right on one thing: there is no "agree to disagee" in Victor's world. All must acquiesce to his will or STFU.

Couch sex at the penthouse too. Ugh. 😣

Victor actually admitted he's been a poor father to his children. It's the first sign of the Apocalypse! Meanwhile, how many times has Victor sued or threatened to sue for custody of one of his grandchildren? He's not winning at being a grandpa either, AFAIC.

Bet Chance is going to regret baring his soul to Devon the way he did. Ammo for the Dominic custody battle surely coming.

Aw, Nick and Victor hugged it out. Wait until jealous crybaby Adam finds out. 👶

[Waldo13]

At only a few months old, Bowie is already smarter than Abby 😇. 

 

🎶Love is in the air🎶 and then there is Banana Breath the Pompous and his black cloud.  Banana Breath the Pompous is right about Victor though in that he does like to play people against each other. I think that Victor views the world as his chessboard. Victor is the Grandmaster and everyone else are just pawns except when it comes to his children.  Victor, in my humble opinion, uses competition as a learning tool to keep his children motivated.  This concept is lost on Banana Breath the Pompous. He either too stupid or too weak to compete so he takes the easy way out and tunes out his family.  For the most part, we use competition to motivate and excel in sports, top grades, excellent jobs, promotions etc. Even with our siblings we compete either realizes or subliminally. 

 

It’s a Christmas miracle with Victor and Banana Breath the Pompous seeing eye to eye and hugging it out 🥳. 

 

[peacheslatour]

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Victor, in my humble opinion, uses competition as a learning tool to keep his children motivated. 

Lol, I read that as "Victor, in my mumble opinion." Ya know, because Victor mumbles.

[boes]

31 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

 Victor, in my humble opinion, uses competition as a learning tool to keep his children motivated.  This concept is lost on Banana Breath the Pompous. He either too stupid or too weak to compete so he takes the easy way out and tunes out his family.  For the most part, we use competition to motivate and excel in sports, top grades, excellent jobs, promotions etc. Even with our siblings we compete either realizes or subliminally. 

And it's appalling.  There's healthy competition, though I'm not completely sold on that.  And there's emotional manipulation which destroys.  These aren't kids, either, they're all damn near middle-aged or more.  

Nope, not buying it, not even for boneheads like the Newman offspring.

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1 hour ago, Waldo13 said:

🎶Love is in the air🎶 

[Julyolo]

On 12/11/2021 at 1:49 PM, lgprimes said:

Anybody else ready and waiting for Ashland to CLEAN OUT the Newman family now that his “experimental treatment” is “miraculously” working?

Oh, yes. When Victoria sat there advising Lily about "warning" signs, her offcious attitude was obnoxious. Victoria, pay attention to your own gaslighting new husband. Compulsive gambler Billy- meet repulsive gambler Ashland, or whatever his real name is. Victor chides Billy for "being born on third base",  yet is adamant his precious daughter be free to love a man that is inherently baseless: who walks away from a friend being immolated, changes a will to suit his own greed-Billy wouldn't make a patch on Ashland's ass. Last Friday watching the "next week" review I found myself not really seeing any storyline that I would look forward to this Monday. Elena moving in with Nat? Duh. Now today, we still have Devon the Renaissance man humble mumbling. The writers seriously need to amp this show up or get their resumes ready.

[JNavarro]

The most manchild thing about the archetypical manchild Nick is how he insists on this "I want in, you don't listen to me, I want out" perpetual temper tantrum.  

I have no issue with anyone wanting to escape the Newmans.  What Nick wants is all the power of the name, but to be known as the "good" one.  Victor knows that, so why would he ever bring Nick on in any kind of scheme?  I don't even truly get what he's that mad about.  This how the Newmans work, and you're 40 something, so it get it through your head and get a life.

Plus, the idiot had to trigger Pric into another Orphange rant.   Yes, we get it, the world already kisses your ass.  Honestly, Victor comes off as a stereotype of an old school "good" father than one actually in reality.  Being willing to give your life for your kids, but not to make any changes for the better for them, isn't as admirable as he thinks it is, IMO.

Speaking of dumb Newman kids....Abby, I see you.  She tells Chance she doesn't want to him to change, with the expectation he won't and she can be so generous for offering.  

It's crazy that we're still feeling the effects of the stupid surrogate storyline that pretty much tanked every character involved.  I can barely feel sympathy for any of them, except for the next person who sits on that Chancellor couch....

 

[Waldo13]

13 hours ago, boes said:

And it's appalling.  There's healthy competition, though I'm not completely sold on that.  And there's emotional manipulation which destroys.  These aren't kids, either, they're all damn near middle-aged or more.  

Nope, not buying it, not even for boneheads like the Newman offspring.

Boes, can you please further on why you are not buying that Victor is more about emotional manipulation than healthy competition. It’s really a combination of both. You don’t make the team, get a promotion, get into college or strive to be accepted by your father. You fall short after years and years of effort.  There are not too many that don’t  get emotional.  
Prime example:  the upcoming Olympics. 

[TobinAlbers]

Pretty sure Billy hired the blond mystery lady to take those videos of him 'drinking and spiraling' to send to Adam to set his own trap for Adam to fall into. He was very much aware of her as she entered and during his conversation with Victoria. So much so that he tamped down on his reaction to her with that woman present. Also interesting that he told the boarding school headmaster to protect the kids from news about the Newmans and Abbotts; he's planning on another bombshell to come out.

I will give Billy this - he played Victoria well with throwing her off by agreeing to send the kids away and then the 'I expected better from you' when it came to her participation in the 'trap'. Son, she's a Newman. She's not better than Victor and Adam when it comes to ruthless plays. You just happened to be on the other side of it with her this time.

Victoria, thankfully realized that her conversation with Billy was off and that he's planning something at least. Adam unfortunately looks to be too gleefully falling into the trap I think Billy is setting; having Chelsea back is gonna be what distracts him from being more cautious. I really wish Adam would leave Billy to his own devices and not so much as even blink in his direction. Just focus on running Newman Media.

When Nikki targets her snooty, passive aggressive then aggressive bitchery at the right people, I like her, LOL.  Nikki was putting on the sweet airs and wearing her cordial mask with ease, but she was slicing and dicing at Chelsea something good where Chelsea just went all in on the defensive. One thing I respect about Nikki, she may have issues with Adam but Connor is Victor's grandson and thus she's gonna protect him like he's her own and run interference with Chelsea if need be. Points to Victor for having security on alert to contact him when Chelsea hit the premises, LOL. Girl, you ain't gonna catch HIM sleeping. He's put you on notice that he's on to you. Then again he did hire you in the first place to handle Billy back in Myanmar so he's had your number for a while.

Ashland tickles me. I love the actor but Ashland is starting to get up to no good again. I do love his being BFFs with Nate. Characters actually having friends, going on double dates, and hanging out is nice for a change.

Chloe's discussions with Lily were interesting. Lily really wants to act like she knows Billy like no one else but here comes Chelsea to let her know, she ain't the first and she knows Billy's moods almost as well as Victoria.  That Chloe, Delia's mother, hit that wall where she could keep coming for Adam, or stop wasting time and enjoy her life with Kevin, Bella, and Miles and went with the latter to the point of even tolerating working for Adam speaks volumes about how Billy is still stuck and continuing to pick at this wound. As Chloe said, she'll never forget, but she's not stuck in the past. Between her conversations with Victoria and Chloe, Lily's seeing that Billy's patterns are back in full force. Now the question is, will Billy actually be moving past his issues (not likely) or will Lily be the latest woman to have to deal with his messy fallout?

As for yesterday's scenes with Nick and Victor; I actually had to laugh at myself- I hate Victor but in his conversation with Nick I found myself siding with Victor. Nick was acting like a spoiled kid instead of looking at his relationship with his father like an adult. Having said that Victor is a horrible human being and while those scenes taken in a vacuum were heartwarming, looking at the big picture, this man had Nick's ex-wife and mother of his child, physically and emotionally violated by bringing in a Jack Abbott dopplganger because he *mistakenly* thought Jack was coming after him and wanted to hit Jack first and thought nothing of the consequences.  He did the same in bringing Patty to town to destroy Jack for funsies resulting in the death of Colleen Carlton and Jack terrorized by Patty for a good long while. And these are only his most recent sins! I feel dirty liking even a moment with that old bastard, LOL.

 

[CountryGirl]

Questioning why I tuned in today because I see Chelz is back.

Also, any guesses on who the chick in the bad wig and black sunglasses is?

[Cupid Stunt]

4 minutes ago, CountryGirl said:

Questioning why I tuned in today because I see Chelz is back.

Also, any guesses on who the chick in the bad wig and black sunglasses is?

Sally.

[deirdra]

2 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Also, any guesses on who the chick in the bad wig and black sunglasses is?

Who was the chick in the bad wig, nose & sunglasses played by Pristine Blair?

[Joimiaroxeu]

"Unsolicited candid footage." Come on, who would be sending Adam random video of Billy out of the blue?

Ashland keeps having these confidential telephone conversations in Victoria's office for her to walk in on. Hmmm, fishy. And how does he still not have his own office?

Chelsea came back with bigger boobs. Uh, good for her? Her blowout looked fab.

I think Victoria must've gotten confused when she chose her outfit this morning. Unless it's made of wool, that's a spring or summer dress. She must keep it fairly warm in the Newman building, or at least in her office.

Adam and Victor should be charging Billy instead of letting him squat rent-free inside their heads. They are obsessed with him. Guess that's part of Billy's big revenge plan. 🤔

Victor told Adam he had a meeting "down the floor." Huh? Was that another way of saying "down the hall" or did he mean "downstairs"? Victor's speaking issues seem to getting more and more bizarre to me, like he's translating on the fly from another language but some words and concepts keep getting lost in the effort. 🤖

Speaking of hair, I was giggling at Victoria's Frau Blücher-esque 'do. That was a relatively elaborate but severe look for her with the pulled-back braids and twists. Surely she didn't style it herself. 😼

Crazypants Chelsea was either brave or clueless to show up at the Newman ranch unannounced. But at least the crack security team stopped hitting the pipe long enough to alert Victor and Nikki of her arrival. 🥴

Ashland and Victoria double-dating with Nate and Elena just doesn't seem plausible to me. Victoria really couldn't care less about Elena because she's not the type to have galpals. And I see Ashland's buddy act with Nate as self-serving in some as yet unknown way.

Lily's sure collecting a lot of warnings about Billy from his baby mamas. She might want to be grateful she can't get pregnant, lol.

[TobinAlbers]

28 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Ashland keeps having these confidential telephone conversations in Victoria's office for her to walk in on. Hmmm, fishy. And how does he still not have his own office?

Agreed. I'd be interested if his office would have the big portrait of himself, arms crossed ala Victor or would he not be THAT narcissistic. But I would like to see what his tastes are.

29 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Chelsea came back with bigger boobs. Uh, good for her? Her blowout looked fab.

Hey, the lady just had a baby so yup, she's gonna be sporting some, uh, top weight for a while, LOL. I did like her hair and cut. Chelsea came back looking freshened.

30 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Adam and Victor should be charging Billy instead of letting him squat rent-free inside their heads. They are obsessed with him. Guess that's part of Billy's big revenge plan. 🤔

Billy is just as bad and just as obsessed. At least Victor has conversations with Nick about his brattiness, Victoria about her husband and new business decisions, and Abby about Chance. Adam and Billy talk about NOTHING other than each other these days.

32 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Crazypants Chelsea was either brave or clueless to show up at the Newman ranch unannounced.

Chelsea tried the surprise attack and Victor let her know he don't play that. She wants trust and a chance to make things work but isn't being transparent in her actions and she learned that while Adam may waver, Nikki and Victor won't be misdirected.

34 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Lily's sure collecting a lot of warnings about Billy from his baby mamas. She might want to be grateful she can't get pregnant, lol.

It's odd that I thought about that too when Lily was sitting there working her butt off and talking about how she only got a few hours of sleep that she really doesn't have to worry about kids/babies that she has to take care of and can focus on her own life and loves and work while Devon is still longing to be a dad. Unless Charlie and Maddie have kids soon, Lily's story no longer has to worry about 'won't someone think about the children!'.

[Waldo13]

Are they trying to confuse an old man?  Why did Chelsea say she wants to see Connor when he gets home from school today?  Isn’t Connor at boarding school?  

Chelsea want to see if she can work with Sally when it should be the other way around?  Sally is the most professional of the three and Chloe and Chelsea are the hacks. TIIC have a knack for giving important jobs to unqualified people. Chloe, Lily, Summer, and even Nostrils the Weasel. I give Olive somewhat of a break because of her long tutelage with Victor. 

Ashland’s good news is that there is no further spread of the cancer but I would think that it would be better news if his cancer is in remission. No further spread just means that cancer is still present causing damage. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Billy is just as bad and just as obsessed.

He is now but Victor started it years ago when Victoria dared to fall in love with and get pregnant by an Abbott. And Adam killed Billy's kid so AFAIC he can shut up forever about Billy. All three of them just need to get on with their lives.

I was refreshing my memory about Billy's timeline with Victoria by reading his bio and I realized that Chloe and Lily have quite a history together with Billy. Wow. Now I really don't understand why Lily would get involved with him again.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

AH’s braided updo was too severe for her thin face and body.  She looks way too thin and unhealthy.  She looks like someone off Survivor after a few weeks!

Sick of Abby’s clinging to Chance!  And why oh why is everyone that sees Chance an expert on how he is doing?  He has not exhibited any outward signs of trauma yet anyway…Devon is like a predator heading in for the kill.

 

[peacheslatour]

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Devon is like a predator heading in for the kill.

[Kemper]

I was hoping things would settle and get better once Chance got home.  But the show has actually gotten worse. Sadly, it looks like Billy might win one against Adam....Devon is now as annoying (or even more so) as Abby.  And now Chelsea.  For awhile I was enjoying the intrigue and hijinks of the wedding, Victor and Adam sinking Billy .  

[peacheslatour]

13 minutes ago, Kemper said:

I was hoping things would settle and get better once Chance got home.  But the show has actually gotten worse. Sadly, it looks like Billy might win one against Adam....Devon is now as annoying (or even more so) as Abby.  And ooonow Chelsea.  For awhile I was enjoying the intrigue and hijinks of the wedding, Victor and Adam sinking Billy .  

So was I. 

[ByaNose]

I always like when an actress returns to their shows after maternity leave. Usually, for months on end it’s either shown but more likely it’s hidden. Everything from hiding with plants, packages and furniture. LOL!!! Then they are sent away to a mental institution, jail, on the run or stranded in a cave. Then 2 or 3 months later they return all refreshed and looking amazing looking. Of course, wardrobe, hair & makeup makes it even better. MCE loves the daytime genre and you can tell she’s ready dive into all the soapy stuff. Oddly enough, I remember when Melody Thomas Scott had her first child (hence Victoria) and, returning to Newman Ranch. It seems like yesterday but it was in the 80’s. 

[Runningwild]

I can’t stand the way NotBilly says “ChanceCCCalm.”  He seem to over enunciate the k sound in com. And adds an L in there. And he says it every other sentence. 

[boes]

Lily, you've got a problem when even Chloe is smarter and on the ball about your life than you are.  Chloe.  You should tell her Thenk yew for her words of wisdom about Der ButtBiscuit.

Lily should have been able to buy a clue when ButtBiscuit came bounding down the stairs, his sagging little apple cheeks all aglow with smug satisfaction and made her morning all about him.  He compliments her on....something....and Lily proceeds to tell him how she wants to modernize the company, that Jill is a bit on the traditional side and ButtBiscuit, not missing a beat, says about his mother, "Nobody is going to accuse her of having the risk taking sensibility that I have" but then, oh so generously, tells Lily, "But you know what?  This isn't about me, this is about YOU!"

No shit, Sherlock, it is about Lily.  Or was, until you commandeered the conversation and turned it hard into ALL ABOUT HIM.  The man can't fart without making it a concerto about himself.   But Lily isn't still just drinking the Kool Aid, she's mixing it up by the gallon.

I never thought she deserved being stuck with Cane.  Lately, I'm not so sure.

I don't know what the dastardly Ashland is up to, but I confess I do enjoy watching him do it - or not do it - whatever the hell he's doing.  He's the best match Victoria's had in recent decades, better than she deserves.

Since Chelsea is back, does that mean we're going to be seeing more of pscho Connor, too?  I don't know how I'll contain my .... joy....

ButtBiscuit wasn't enough of a self-centered prick with Lily, he saved enough to share the leftovers with Victoria.  He gets the Olympic gold in self-pity and blinkered self-regard.  He had the gall to tell Victoria that he "thought she was better than that".  He should book-end that statement with him telling Lily last week that his "brother let him down" when Jack wouldn't pay for him to buy ChanceComm.  Billy, without fail, always manages to make himself more repugnant.

Here's hoping he gets back together with Chelsea.

[SweePea59]

So Buttbiscuit is drinking apple juice and pretending it's booze and pretending that he's in a downward spiral drinking and gambling and being a dick. But he's not. He is lying to everyone who cares about him as part of his master revenge plan, which is even dickier than what he's pretending to do. How dicky is it when a dick pretends to be a dick but his pretend dicking isn't nearly as dicky as his pretending to be a dick and his actual dick moves? 

[TobinAlbers]

15 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

He is now but Victor started it years ago when Victoria dared to fall in love with and get pregnant by an Abbott. And Adam killed Billy's kid so AFAIC he can shut up forever about Billy. All three of them just need to get on with their lives.

I was refreshing my memory about Billy's timeline with Victoria by reading his bio and I realized that Chloe and Lily have quite a history together with Billy. Wow. Now I really don't understand why Lily would get involved with him again.

Don't get me wrong - Victor absolutely and unequivocally started this crazy war with Billy doing the same overkill moves for imagined payback that he pulls with Jack. Victor having Chelsea  drug and kidnap Billy to have him delivered to a Myanmar prison and later holding him hostage in Genoa City when Delia was in the hospital and dictating to him when and how he could see his own child was abhorrent. Victor was dead to me then and even deader to me after all the Patty and Colleen mess and I wished he burned in hell for the Jack doppleganger.

Adam has done horrible things but his accidental death of Delia is not something I hold as a malicious crime; it was the aftermath that made me so disappointed in him. For sure Chloe and Billy should hate him forever and ever for their loss, but Billy also owns some responsibility in this and even HAD once upon a time moved past his intense hatred of Adam to tolerate him. That they've had Billy backtrack to such a degree that he's playing dirty and causing mayhem and still putting the blame on Victor and Adam when it's actually him causing the damage in this current 'war' is why I'm over him. That and his cuckolding his own brother and his perptual chip on his shoulder with all of his family for not immediately forgiving him for his mistakes and wanting their unconditional support when he doesn't give them the same.

Yeah, the Chloe, Billy, Lily, history is hilarious. Why Lily actually hooked up with him knowing his deal I don't get. Must be great in bed, LOL.

[Crashcourse]

I haven't watched Y&R on a regular basis in years, but I tune in periodically.  

Chance doesn't look that happy with Abby.  She's clingy and airheaded and he looks like he wants to get the hell away from her.  Maybe he truly loves her but that's the way he looks.  He seems to vibe more with Devon.

Ashland looks like a dressed up cadaver.   

[madfortv]

What happened with Billy's expose on Ashland?  Was he the one who published it? How did it affect Ashland?

I hope I am asking the question in the right place. Since this happened several weeks ago, I am thinking this is old news and not a spoiler.

[peacheslatour]

18 minutes ago, madfortv said:

What happened with Billy's expose on Ashland?  Was he the one who published it? How did it affect Ashland?

I hope I am asking the question in the right place. Since this happened several weeks ago, I am thinking this is old news and not a spoiler.

 Victor and Adam hacked the server and put it online.

[Cupid Stunt]

 

Hi there LongtimeYRfan, Crashcourse and madfortv!

 

[Waldo13]

What is Nostrils the Weasel’s end game?  What is he going to accomplish by making people think he’s going off the deep end?  Is it just a cover because he actually is?  To think of it Nostrils the Weasel’s best attribute is being an ass hole. That’s the thing he excels at without even trying. 

Why is it ok for Devon to be overly obsessed with Bowie but not Mariah.  TIIC sure give Devon’s obsession a lot more airtime than Mariah’s obsession. 

A little 🐂💩 to the ending of Chance 2.0’s ordeal. The “authorities” were able to end in weeks that Chance 2.0 couldn’t end in months. 

Bowie is so advanced for his age that in another 6 months he will be writing dialog for Y&R and doing a much better job.  

I’m starting to believe that the blonde is Sally. For the first time there is a better look at her face.  The blonde has Sally’s jaw line, chin, mouth, and eyebrows. It’s just her rings that are throwing me off because Sally doesn’t wear simple rings on her ring fingers.     

 

[Cupid Stunt]

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Devon is like a predator heading in for the kill.

 

18 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

Like a mouse, Darvon is playing the opportunist, making it his job to father Bowie because he thinks Chance is unstable and guilt-ridden, poisoning Bowie's life. Darvon has essentially vowed to assume control over the one thing Chance seems to take joy in, the nurturing of his son.

Like Mariah, Darvon assumes he's the only person that has Bowie's best interests at heart and is determined to pressure his way into a custodial position.

With Abby jibbering her concern for her husband to Darvon, and Chance handing Darvon every reason to doubt his mental state, When listening to Darvon cooing that he'll be there with Bowie all the time, I doubt Abby or Chance understand the gravity of Darvon's information gathering or what his promise to Bowie actually mean.

Edited December 15, 2021 by Cupid Stunt

[boes]

2 hours ago, madfortv said:

What happened with Billy's expose on Ashland?  Was he the one who published it? How did it affect Ashland?

I hope I am asking the question in the right place. Since this happened several weeks ago, I am thinking this is old news and not a spoiler.

 

2 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

 Victor and Adam hacked the server and put it online.

And then Jesse Gaines retracted his accusations, making Billy's article look like a slanderous hit piece, Chancecomm lost subscribers and money and Ashland is sueing the company for libel.

Billy sank like the blockhead he is.

[Crashcourse]

41 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said:

When listening to Darvon cooing that he'll be there with Bowie all the time, I doubt Abby or Chance understand the gravity of Darvon's information gathering or what his promise to Bowie actually mean.

I thought it was interesting though that Chance looked kind of suspicious when he was listening to Darvon cooing over Bowie.  

[Joimiaroxeu]

NuChance is so young. He looks to me like he'll be asking someone to the senior prom soon. Wonder why TPTB did such a glaring deSORAS of him? Chance has a lot of history with several older, veteran characters and now most of it doesn't work.

Ehhh, Devon, you're looking for trouble. Chance's relationship with Dominic is not your business, it's Abby's. 😐

Officially safe? The bad guys likely have families and one of them might come looking for revenge, Abby. You and Chance may not be 100% out of woods yet.

Was Billy supposed to be acting drunk at Society in front of Victoria and Ashland? He seemed more coked up than boozy to me. ⛄❄🛷🎿

If they're not going to hire DD back as Paul, I can't help but wonder why they don't recast the role. 🤔

Oy, Chelsea is still cuckoo for cocoa puffs. I almost want to feel sorry for Adam having to deal with her in person again. Almost. Meanwhile, Connor sure has grown a lot.

"I'm in control." Famous last words of an addict, Billy. Even one only pretending to be in a downward spiral.

And Devon, you also should not be getting mixed up in Abby and Chance's marriage. Don't let Abby put you in an even more awkward position. 🤨

If Mysterious Spy Lady is indeed Sally, Sally's not up to the task IMO. What she's doing is drawing attention to herself in that ridiculous "incognito" costume.

Hmm, I'm not sure the stalker woman is Sally. Maybe CBS got Lady Gaga to do a short guest appearance after taping her special with Tony Bennett? Yeah, that's the ticket! 😉

[Cupid Stunt]

1 hour ago, Waldo13 said:

What is Nostrils the Weasel’s end game?  What is he going to accomplish by making people think he’s going off the deep end?  Is it just a cover because he actually is?  To think of it Nostrils the Weasel’s best attribute is being an ass hole. That’s the thing he excels at without even trying. 

Is NotBilly planning another expose' to render his last retraction moot? Does he plan on taking over what's left of Chance Dot Com and self-publish or is he going to sell the new Locke/Newman article to another media site? 

It doesn't matter. Lily is supporting his plan, and he's right back to where he was when he gambled and lost Chance Dot Com.

Why NotBilly is wasting his time pretending he's circling the drain seems to get Victor and Atonal to drop their guard and he can take advantage of some small chink in their well-built plan to shut him down. Whatever Victor and Atonal have planned to finish NotBilly off, they better get on with it.

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Why is it ok for Devon to be overly obsessed with Bowie but not Mariah.  TIIC sure give Devon’s obsession a lot more airtime than Mariah’s obsession. 

It's not okay for either of them to obsess over Bowie, but that's the drama TIIC have written to drag out Abby's Baby Rabies and make a bigger mess of Bowie's life. 

The difference is that Darvon is better at hiding his opinions and intentions about who's the better parent, where Mariah was publicly crazed, and she admitted it at Bowie's christening.

TIIC are setting up Darvon's play for Bowie's custody, that's why Mariah is stuck playing second fiddle to Noah schmooping over Tessa.

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A little 🐂💩 to the ending of Chance 2.0’s ordeal. The “authorities” were able to end in weeks that Chance 2.0 couldn’t end in months. 

TIIC can't do anything with the Spain story other than end it so they can push the Bowie custody brouhaha with Chance/Abby/Darvon.

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Bowie is so advanced for his age that in another 6 months he will be writing dialog for Y&R and doing a much better job.  

I expect Bowie to be sent to SORAS boarding school by next March, returning a teenager with Katie and Johnny, and a new Teen Scene is born since Faith and Moses are wearing chastity belts and memorizing New Testament passages.

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I’m starting to believe that the blonde is Sally. For the first time there is a better look at her face.  The blonde has Sally’s jaw line, chin, mouth, and eyebrows. It’s just her rings that are throwing me off because Sally doesn’t wear simple rings on her ring fingers. 

It looked like Sally to me.

And Lily recognized her right away. Of course, NotBilly went out of his way to play the jackass in public. It was so obvious NotBilly was playacting, Sally should suspect NotBilly and Lily were doing it for her benefit. Sally should be handing the bartender a $50 to tell her what NotBilly was drinking. Apple juice should set off alarm bells.

Edited December 15, 2021 by Cupid Stunt

[deirdra]

2 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

Bowie is so advanced for his age that in another 6 months he will be writing dialog for Y&R and doing a much better job.  

We can only hope!

After all that apple juice, Billy is probably on a sugar high with rotting teeth.

Edited December 15, 2021 by deirdra

[Chatty Cake]

LMAO at Power pink Barbie walking in with fake drunk Billy and trying to ruffle CEO Barbie and Ken’s feathers.

Con Artist Barbie looks good with her new haircut. The wardrobe could be improved but at least it’s not that brown track suit. 

When are they going to do something with Coffee Shop Barbie? My husband asked if Rey was gay and I said no why, he said they kept talking about his partner lol. 

Do they need ominous music when Victor makes an appearance? It’s his house he’s bound to be there.

Oh oh Heiress Barbie going to end up in court with Devon for that baby. 

 

[peacheslatour]

4 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

LMAO at Power pink Barbie walking in with fake drunk Billy and trying to ruffle CEO Barbie and Ken’s feathers.

Con Artist Barbie looks good with her new haircut. The wardrobe could be improved but at least it’s not that brown track suit. 

When are they going to do something with Coffee Shop Barbie? My husband asked if Rey was gay and I said no why, he said they kept talking about his partner lol. 

Do they need ominous music when Victor makes an appearance? It’s his house he’s bound to be there.

Oh oh Heiress Barbie going to end up in court with Devon for that baby. 

 

He should some Vaderesque shit or something.

I loved your names. Let's see. Baby rabies Barbie. Should Nikki be drunk Barbie or stripper Barbie? Tennis balls Barbie over at the Ginormous Peritoneum?