JNavarro August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 (edited) I'm already liking the idea of Adam, Chloe, and Sally all working together. Didn't get a romantic chem vibe for Adam and Sally, but I think a platonic friendship/coworker relationship would be even better imo. Phyllis is really shook and showed it today, and I love it. Brilliant move ranting to Adam about Sally before Jack could say anything, so he could immediately come to the (correct) conclusion that this is typical Phyllis bullshit. I actually think Abby is being way more tolerant in this situation than a lesser person would be. From her (admittedly dim) perspective here, Mariah has absconded with the kid at this point, and she's still talking about not wanting to be mad and showing she cares about her. I gotta admire that compassion. Why they are all - including the suddenly agreeable Sharon Rosales- telling Rey everything that they already knew a week ago? Mariah's really in trouble with this crew "looking" for her. Edited August 12, 2021 by JNavarro 15 Link to comment
crowsworks August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 11 hours ago, Chatty Cake said: Thank you Chloe for making Sally great again! Eat a bag of dicks Phyllis you fire crotched, ugly green shirt wearing asshole! I hope your dotter never returns. Ever! Judging by the half inch of grey roots she was sporting - Rodan's crotch is more smoke than fire. 10 hours ago, Waldo13 said: Of course of all the people, in GC, Chloe would be the one to commiserate with Sally. I’m starting to like Chloe because she’s really starting to recognize talent. Chloe also had a great line with if there was a question about an unreasonable past, Adam and her would be the first ones out of the door. Check that, the best line of the day goes to Adam. “So your saying you and Sally have a lot in common”. “Is that why you don’t like her”? The look on Jack’s face was priceless. Even more priceless when I paused my DVR on his face. Is getting to the point where Rodan’s obsession, with Sally, is boarder line slanderous. Now what Rodan? Adam doesn’t seem to give a shit about you and what you think. I thought it finally be over with Rodan roasting and chewing up Sally. Silly rabbit, somebody down there 😈 loves Rodan. Has anyone noticed that the Actress playing Sally has been directed to mimic some of Phyls word chewing and hand waving. And this Adam quote. If Sally starts saying amazine..... 11 3 Link to comment
Chatty Cake August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, crowsworks said: Judging by the half inch of grey roots she was sporting - Rodan's crotch is more smoke than fire. Has anyone noticed that the Actress playing Sally has been directed to mimic some of Phyls word chewing and hand waving. And this Adam quote. If Sally starts saying amazine..... I read someone else’s speculation last night that Phyllis’s obsession with Sally makes them think she’s her daughter. I would hope they wouldn’t go there but Phyllis is down a dotter. Edited August 12, 2021 by Chatty Cake 1 4 Link to comment
Waldo13 August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 5 hours ago, crowsworks said: Judging by the half inch of grey roots she was sporting - Rodan's crotch is more smoke than fire. When I gave Phillis the nickname Rodan I was contemplating naming after a female fire breathing dragon. But dragons can be nice and faithful companions. Phillis is neither so she became an outright monster, Rodan. Thanks Crowsworks for that image of Rodan as not only a fire breather but produces fire in her crotch. But I think there is a lot of fire still left in her crotch that is only quelled by Banana Breath for a few minutes. 5 Link to comment
Kemper August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 10 hours ago, JNavarro said: I'm already liking the idea of Adam, Chloe, and Sally all working together. Didn't get a romantic chem vibe for Adam and Sally, but I think a platonic friendship/coworker relationship would be even better imo. There is no romantic chem vibe with Adam and Sharon, either. As much as I would not mind an Adam/Sally pairing....a Nick/Sally would be a joyous thing to behold. Has MS ever lost a guy to another woman? Watching her anytime - no matter what the circumstances, is exhausting. And I actually like Adam lately - he seems to have no agenda; he is treating Chelsea better than I thought he would. Maybe the show will finally let him be more human instead of a cartoon villain. But I hate that he will probably be matched with Sharon; in her own way, she is as bad an actress as MS. The blank stare, wide-eyed frozen face. I'm sorry, that is harsh; she is a beautiful woman. But at some point she will have to move on from most desirable ingenue. I also like Adam/Nick as brothers; wish they could join together and fight something ... Victor, Victoria, Phyllis. Also...from Jack's reaction yesterday I wonder if Adam ad-libbed the comment about Phyllis. 2 12 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 Quote I read someone else’s speculation last night that Phyllis’s obsession with Sally makes them think she’s her daughter. I would hope they wouldn’t go there but Phyllis is down a dotter. Yeah I saw that too and then spent an absurd amount of time and research trying to figure out if the math would work. I couldn't make it happen unless the show really futzes around with Daniel and Sally's ages, And even then, when was Phyllis gone long enough to have had Sally? And who's the daddy? Now they could make her Avery's kid and then Sally would be Phyllis' niece. But still, that would make Sally's origin story to much like Amanda's since Phyllis and Avery came from a well-to-do family and I think Sally told Jack her parents were in the circus or something. Ow, my head hurts again.🤯 2 3 2 Link to comment
boes August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said: Yeah I saw that too and then spent an absurd amount of time and research trying to figure out if the math would work. I couldn't make it happen unless the show really futzes around with Daniel and Sally's ages, And even then, when was Phyllis gone long enough to have had Sally? And who's the daddy? Now they could make her Avery's kid and then Sally would be Phyllis' niece. But still, that would make Sally's origin story to much like Amanda's since Phyllis and Avery came from a well-to-do family and I think Sally told Jack her parents were in the circus or something. Ow, my head hurts again.🤯 Imagine how much Sally's head will hurt if anything like his comes to pass. 5 4 Link to comment
Chatty Cake August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Waldo13 said: When I gave Phillis the nickname Rodan I was contemplating naming after a female fire breathing dragon. But dragons can be nice and faithful companions. Phillis is neither so she became an outright monster, Rodan. Thanks Crowsworks for that image of Rodan as not only a fire breather but produces fire in her crotch. But I think there is a lot of fire still left in her crotch that is only quelled by Banana Breath for a few minutes. And the poor esthetician at the Grand Phoenix. 9 Link to comment
blackwing August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Kemper said: There is no romantic chem vibe with Adam and Sharon, either. As much as I would not mind an Adam/Sally pairing....a Nick/Sally would be a joyous thing to behold. Has MS ever lost a guy to another woman? Watching her anytime - no matter what the circumstances, is exhausting. And I actually like Adam lately - he seems to have no agenda; he is treating Chelsea better than I thought he would. Maybe the show will finally let him be more human instead of a cartoon villain. But I hate that he will probably be matched with Sharon; in her own way, she is as bad an actress as MS. The blank stare, wide-eyed frozen face. I'm sorry, that is harsh; she is a beautiful woman. But at some point she will have to move on from most desirable ingenue. I also like Adam/Nick as brothers; wish they could join together and fight something ... Victor, Victoria, Phyllis. Also...from Jack's reaction yesterday I wonder if Adam ad-libbed the comment about Phyllis. I too wish they made Adam more of a normal person than a cartoon villain. And I agree that it seems they are going to revisit the Adam/Sharon pairing. I thought Sharon Case and the Michael Muhney Adam were good together, I think there was ahem some visible evidence that Muhney really liked working with her. They were a believable couple. Not so sure about the current Adam. If Phyllis can date someone well below her age, I thought Jack/Sally seems like a possibility. 2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said: Yeah I saw that too and then spent an absurd amount of time and research trying to figure out if the math would work. I couldn't make it happen unless the show really futzes around with Daniel and Sally's ages, And even then, when was Phyllis gone long enough to have had Sally? And who's the daddy? Now they could make her Avery's kid and then Sally would be Phyllis' niece. But still, that would make Sally's origin story to much like Amanda's since Phyllis and Avery came from a well-to-do family and I think Sally told Jack her parents were in the circus or something. Ow, my head hurts again.🤯 The more it is mentioned the more I am convinced it is going to happen. Because for some reason, this show is completely beholden to Michelle Stafford. They will do whatever they can to ensure that she always gets a huge and meaty storyline. I have no idea why she seems to have the kind of power that she does. I think it's great that an actress/character of her age is still being written as the #1 lead actress on a soap... I just wish it wasn't her. 3 1 8 Link to comment
Chatty Cake August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 They could rename this show the Young and the Phyllis. Why is she still carrying on about the “two little girls” days later? 5 13 Link to comment
boes August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said: They could rename this show the Young and the Phyllis. Why is she still carrying on about the “two little girls” days later? Jealousy? 1 5 10 Link to comment
Chatty Cake August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 Kyle needs to leave Hair-a-son alone. He couldn’t get out of town fast enough to reach his precious Summers Eve. Why would Ashland give a rats about Kyle seeing the boy? He also abandoned his job. He should be fired from Jabot for good. 1 14 Link to comment
bannana August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said: Yeah I saw that too and then spent an absurd amount of time and research trying to figure out if the math would work. I couldn't make it happen unless the show really futzes around with Daniel and Sally's ages, And even then, when was Phyllis gone long enough to have had Sally? And who's the daddy? Now they could make her Avery's kid and then Sally would be Phyllis' niece. But still, that would make Sally's origin story to much like Amanda's since Phyllis and Avery came from a well-to-do family and I think Sally told Jack her parents were in the circus or something. Ow, my head hurts again.🤯 We know Sally's past from her stint on the B&B, but of course that could just be ignored. If it keeps Sally in town, I would be for it, but OTOH it just gives Phyllis more of the spotlight and she is just awful. 1 12 Link to comment
SweePea59 August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 2:25 PM, Chatty Cake said: Thank you Chloe for making Sally great again! Eat a bag of dicks Phyllis you fire crotched, ugly green shirt wearing asshole! I hope your dotter never returns. Ever! Yeah, you tell 'em Chatty Cake! I've reread this about ten times and it's just not gettin' old. 18 hours ago, Angeleyes said: I sincerely hope that they bring Daniel back just to date Sally. Although, I have always thought she’d be great paired with Noah since they both have artistic careers. I’m sure Phyllis would find a way to freak out about that too. Phyllis acts like Dummer has never left home before, but it wasn’t that long ago that Dummer was working overseas for Newman in Dubai. This whole vendetta against Sally has been a complete overreaction since Sally arrived into town. I’m glad she’s getting a second chance with Chloe. Was today’s meeting with Adam a chem test perhaps? Sally paired with Daniel sounds like fun. I'd love to see a chem test. Sally and Adam would probably come off like Boris and Natasha. 16 hours ago, Snaporaz said: Awww, what did Daniel ever do you? Knowing Phyllis, she would hunt down Daisy and have her drive Sally away from her son. Hey, it just occurred to me that Lucy has a new baby cousin in Los Angeles! Ugh, anything but Daisy. On either show. Actually, I don't think She exists in the world of B&B thank goodness. 4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said: Yeah I saw that too and then spent an absurd amount of time and research trying to figure out if the math would work. I couldn't make it happen unless the show really futzes around with Daniel and Sally's ages, And even then, when was Phyllis gone long enough to have had Sally? And who's the daddy? Now they could make her Avery's kid and then Sally would be Phyllis' niece. But still, that would make Sally's origin story to much like Amanda's since Phyllis and Avery came from a well-to-do family and I think Sally told Jack her parents were in the circus or something. Ow, my head hurts again.🤯 Sally's parents died and her "Grams" raised her and her younger sister, Coco. And Sally takes after her aunt OG Sally. So I would hope that the Y&R monkeys (and MS) that are writing this crap instead of flinging it, don't f-up the "facts" as we know them. 3 7 Link to comment
Cupid Stunt August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 (edited) On 8/11/2021 at 11:09 AM, Waldo13 said: First 1/2 hr 8/10: Rodan are you that obtuse? Summer, beside being more successful in Milan than she could be in GC, Summer, maybe for the last time, has cut the umbilical cord. Summer tried before but she always came back to Rodan. Stop it, just stop rationalizing why Summer left. Ultimately Summer left because she WANTED to leave. Tara and Sally just gave her the opportunity to leave GC. Banana Breath is placating Rodan because he knows, deep down in his heart, that Rodan has done much worse than Sally ever thought of. Sally is a much better friend, to Jack, than Rodan could be. Are the TIIC revisiting the Rodan/Jack dynamic? All the other times Dumber escaped from Phyllis and/or her bad acts in Genoa City is because she was offered an alternative and she took it. Handed a job she wasn't qualified for at Newman Enterprises real estate division in Dubai was to escape, The job Sally set up -- underhanded but done with the cooperation of people who vouched for Dumber's abilities, though we never saw any level of creativity from her, was another great job Dumber was unqualified for -- at Marcetti was a huge step up in a fashion capital of Europe, and that's nothing to sneeze at. Dumber can see the opportunities available to her in Milan, which over-shadows anything Genoa City can offer. GC is a fashion backwater from the looks of the women in town. Cocktail dresses for day wear does not exude chic and discerning taste. If TIIC are reduxing Jack and Phyllis, that's going to be ugly, after Phyllis was gloating how much Nick loves her after going along and participating with her Tara/Sally take down. Nick and Jack have been betrayed too many times by Phyllis' mercurial emotional/sexual appetites. Everyone suffered for her treachery. If Jack hasn't learned from the Phyllis/NotBilly boinkfest, he never will. Phyllis might know Jack better than anyone, but that would be to manipulate him to her will. Quote Banana Breath, Tara is not going to loose her rights to Harrison over a contrived white color crime. Did Lily loose her rights to the twins? Do drug addicts loose there rights to their children after going through rehab and a probation period. Did Chelsea loose her rights to Connor? Chelsea was threatened often enough to have Con taken from her by Victor and Atonal, but they never pushed the button, and she ran off with Con. In Tara's case, if it is proved that she has shown a history of underhanded business dealings and defrauded Locke-ness by lying about Jr's paternity, Soap Family Court could easily remove her parental rights, giving Locke-ness sole custody. Jack might bitch and attempt to fight that, but with Kyle anchored in Milan and abandoning his responsibilities to Jr, Jack's going to have to cry a river to win custody. On 8/11/2021 at 2:15 PM, Waldo13 said: Finally, are they going some attention to Mariah. Rey, you schmuck. You can read Chelsea but you can’t read Mariah that it’s not anywhere in her character that she just, out of the blue, ran and hid. Rey, your a “great” detective and you can’t detect that Mariah could have been kidnapped. At least Abby and Tessa entertained the idea but know Tessa is putting her foot down and demanding more has to be done to find Mariah because she knows this is not like Mariah at all. Maybe Tessa finally convince the others to see it her way. The Find Mariah Team are still hemming and hawing over what to do, while Mariah covers what she believes is a camera in the smoke detector -- Why didn't she take it down, forcing her captor to face her? Det Rey Rey is an idiot, but the lead moron is Abby not contacting Chance, telling him their BAYBEEEEE IS IN DANGER!!!!!! Fuck the resentment, stop the second guessing what you don't know as fact, call Victor to mobilize his black ops battalion and get Chance's ass back to Genoa City! Stupid bint. The Baby Rabies/Mariah Kidnapping SL sucks. Quote Of course of all the people, in GC, Chloe would be the one to commiserate with Sally. I’m starting to like Chloe because she’s really starting to recognize talent. Chloe also had a great line with if there was a question about an unreasonable past, Adam and her would be the first ones out of the door. Check that, the best line of the day goes to Adam. “So your saying you and Sally have a lot in common”. “Is that why you don’t like her”?The look on Jack’s face was priceless. Even more priceless when I paused my DVR on his face. It's Kismet! Most of Genoa City's loons, malefactors and neurotic ambitionists are going to work in the same office together. They'll be successful. I can take just so much of Chloe and then she's like a bad case tinnitus. TIIC managed to toss in a couple of dialog beauts: Chloe was dead on during the introductions of Atonal and Sally: Judging people by their questionable pasts, she and Atonal would be the first ones out the door -- Hilarious. And Atonal jamming Phyllis' Holier Than Thou diatribe about Sally down her throat: Atonal stating Phyllis doesn’t like Sally because they’re alike, which made Jack snicker -- Ha! Quote Is getting to the point where Rodan’s obsession, with Sally, is boarder line slanderous. Now what Rodan? Adam doesn’t seem to give a shit about you and what you think. I thought it finally be over with Rodan roasting and chewing up Sally. Silly rabbit, somebody down there 😈 loves Rodan. Phyllis needs a punching bag since her plan to bring Dumber back home failed, and Sally had the gall to stay in town rather than turn tail and run. This does give Sally an opportunity for some payback by using Newman Media's resources. A couple of unflattering blind items directing the fashionable set away from the Phoenix, subtle suggestions of now Not The Place To See and Be Seen the hotel has become, dragging up a few scathing historic Phyllis crimes and social faux pas -- Ruin Phyllis slow and easy, like smoking a brisket. 22 hours ago, Gam2 said: So we’ve become convinced, if we weren’t before, that this whole story has been about Phyllis!! I did all of this for YOU, SUMMER!!!!!! Everything was FOR YOU, SUMMER!!!!! Feel sorry FOR ME, SUMMER!!!! Will someone please kill this woman once and for all?! We’ll all take up a collection and pay you handsomely! Second verse, same as the first! Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me! 10 hours ago, Chatty Cake said: I read someone else’s speculation last night that Phyllis’s obsession with Sally makes them think she’s her daughter. I would hope they wouldn’t go there but Phyllis is down a dotter. That would totally upend and distort Sally's Origins Story from B&B. As a fan of Sally Spectra The First and Darlene Conley, How would TIIC explain the rest of the Spectra family (Grams and Sally's sister) related to Phyllis? I would hate that Phyllis is related to the Spectra family in any way, shape or form. Phyllis is not worthy. Edited August 12, 2021 by Cupid Stunt 15 Link to comment
JNavarro August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Kemper said: But I hate that he will probably be matched with Sharon; in her own way, she is as bad an actress as MS. The blank stare, wide-eyed frozen face. I'm sorry, that is harsh; she is a beautiful woman. But at some point she will have to move on from most desirable ingenue. I think she's even worse than MS. I don't think MS is like a normal "bad" actress, imo. Some of that weirdness I actually find a little charming....she just takes it so grotesquely far that she's absolutely unwatcheable now. Sharon just either phones it in, or winds up acting (at least I think acting) like she's on a bad trip. She's been great at times in the not too distant past, and she is a beautiful woman- but this whole current thing of hers isn't good. Edited August 13, 2021 by JNavarro 11 Link to comment
rcc August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 Anybody else not able to like anything? Agree with the above. SC is worse than MS. At least MS can emote. 5 7 Link to comment
SweePea59 August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, rcc said: Anybody else not able to like anything? Agree with the above. SC is worse than MS. At least MS can emote. Yeah, everything on the show sucks. I am having trouble making myself watch it. I may drop out for awhile because it's so bad. It's frustrating to see Jack turned into some wimp and to see the new Scooby gang bungling along while Mariah was kidnapped. Then there's the MS propping and Buttbuscuit even existing and all those strangers prattling on about shit that no one cares about. The only good points for me are Assland, but only partially because that means more mop, and the new super "vilains" team of Adam, Chloe and Sally. But you know Chelsea will be back to ruin that soon enough. So sad. 16 Link to comment
peacheslatour August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, SweePea59 said: Yeah, everything on the show sucks. I am having trouble making myself watch it. I may drop out for awhile because it's so bad. It's frustrating to see Jack turned into some wimp and to see the new Scooby gang bungling along while Mariah was kidnapped. Then there's the MS propping and Buttbuscuit even existing and all those strangers prattling on about shit that no one cares about. The only good points for me are Assland, but only partially because that means more mop, and the new super "vilains" team of Adam, Chloe and Sally. But you know Chelsea will be back to ruin that soon enough. So sad. I pretty much watch the first few minutes or so and find myself getting bored and wandering off. 1 13 Link to comment
Kemper August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 It seems like Phyllis has been emoting front and center for weeks instead of days. It is painful to watch. But. She was talking about Nick to Amanda - who suggested Nick might not like the meddling and antics at some point. Phyllis drank her orange juice, waved it and said he would never leave her or something like that. Foreshadowing? 5 10 Link to comment
Waldo13 August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 Yesterday Kevin mentioned Gloria. What happened to Gloria? Is she still Lauren’s assistant? Gloria and Sally seemed to get along and could be another strong ally for Sally since there is no love loss between Gloria and Rodan. For me, Lauren is a suck ass boss. Sally was doing an excellent job, far better than Summer, and she basically fired Sally because of her friendship with Rodan. Lauren put emotion over business. Lauren knows as much about being a true business leader as Rodan knows about being altruistic. No Amanda you are wrong. Everything is not going well for everyone Rodan cares about. It’s not going well for Rodan who is the primary thing Rodan cares about. Nostrils you sanctimonious piece of shit gloating about Tara embezzling from her own company (contrived) while you embezzled from Jabot. Also, Tara was not worming her way into the Abbotts. Tara had a claim on Kyle because he was the baby daddy. Even Banana Breath noticed that Rodan and Sally are very much alike but when it comes to train wrecks Jack, Rodan did you a hell of a lot more wrong to you than Sally could have. I’m quite sure if you and Sally were a couple, Sally would have never cheated on you. Ashland is going to need a lot more than tea and candy for nausea. He’s going to need Zofran. Treatments kill off bone marrow which causes the body to produce less white blood cells which fight off infections. Medication is needed to insure normal white blood cell counts for chemo to continue. Ashland is hurting, I’m sorry for him but happy TIIC are finally injecting a dose of reality to his plight. One other thing, even if Ashland goes into remission, there most likely be a lot of health issues because his cancer reached stage 4. Olive Oyl get off your high horse. Olive you siphon off funds from your investors every time you have a business loss or have a frivolous expenditure which causes a decrease in profits. The difference being it’s Tara’s company and your a CEO of a company that’s not entirely yours. God help us. Did we have to hear Rodan rehashing her victory to Amanda. It’s over but TIIC just have to give Rodan the floor to create more and more 🤢🤢🤮🤮. Three words for Rodan, Self Praise Stinks. Usually when compliments get absorbed a person’s head gets bigger; but in Rodan’s case Rodan’s wings get bigger. The best thing about Rodan today was watch Rodan’s facial expressions freeze frame. What a bevy of hilarity. Why does every conversation about Tara makes her sound like a serial killer. What ever happened to innocent to proven guilty. If Nostrils and Lily publish the story about Tara, they have to use the word alleged before her name or she can sue upon vindicated. Thought if convicted it’s a white collar crime and as a first time offender, Tara most likely will get probation. Now, if there is a trial, the accountant would have to testify. A good lawyer will bring up that the accountant was first brought to GC to accuse Tara. Than Banana Breath would have to testify as to how he knew who Tara’s accountant was. Now hear’s another rub. Tara committed the alleged crime in NY so a warrant for her arrest had to be sworn out in NY and GC would be asked to execute said warrant. Since the accountant wasn’t in NY to speak to the police, why was a warrant issued on hear say evidence without the ability for Tara to defend herself. I would love to see Tara exonerated and Tara bring charges for hacking and Sally bring charges for identity theft. Both could bring charges for their 4th amendment rights. The right to privacy. 5 1 6 Link to comment
blackwing August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Cupid Stunt said: That would totally upend and distort Sally's Origins Story from B&B. As a fan of Sally Spectra The First and Darlene Conley, Hiw would TIIC explain the rest of the Spectra family (Grams and Sally's sister) related to Phyllis? I would hate that Phyllis is related to the Spectra family in any way, shape or form. Phyllis is not worthy. I agree... but if Sheila Carter can have not one but three sudden-revealed adult children, I would not at all be surprised if they find a way to explain all this. I forget what the explanation was on who Sally's parents are/were. I only recall that one of them (not sure if they ever specified) is the child of Shirley, the sister of Darlene Conley's Sally. Could easily say that Younger Sally's dad is the Spectra and impregnated Phyllis who gave him the baby to raise as his own. I think the timeline would be wonky, because as mentioned, since when would Phyllis have been gone for long enough to have had a baby, but hey, on this show Daniel is 40 and she's... 45. So clearly, show doesn't care about timeline and ages. 1 6 3 Link to comment
Cupid Stunt August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SweePea59 said: Yeah, everything on the show sucks. I am having trouble making myself watch it. I may drop out for awhile because it's so bad. It's frustrating to see Jack turned into some wimp and to see the new Scooby gang bungling along while Mariah was kidnapped. Then there's the MS propping and Buttbuscuit even existing and all those strangers prattling on about shit that no one cares about. The only good points for me are Assland, but only partially that means more mop, and the new super "vilains" team of Adam, Chloe and Sally. But you know Chelsea will be back to ruin that soon enough. So sad. I like how Victoria and Lock-ness are together; a match of equals. When he proposed with the sapphire ring, I had a few tears (Mr. Stunt made a similar proposal to me with the perfect engagement ring). AH hasn't been this invested in a relationship since the Travis Crawford pairing, and that's something to hang on to. NotBilly is certain Locke-ness was aware of Tara's misappropriation of funds and is going to be the pooper at Vicki's wedding party. Whether Locke-ness was aware or not, NotBilly must insert himself into Victoria's life and shit on it. He cannot stop himself. Considering the NYC attorney is pressing charges against Tara, they would have contacted Newman Enterprises they were in the middle of a merger with a Locke Communications holding involved in felony theft of funds. And Newman Enterprises are doing their due diligence on the Locke Communications merger, if Tara's company is part of the merger plan, they will be the first to notify Victoria about the cash shortfall. The Newman Media office of Super Villain's is going to be a plague on everyone, or that's the plan. We know The Real Atonal Adam Newman is going to show up, and go BOOM on MyPolar Sharon's life; Rey Rey will be disappointed, but we'll never know. I'm looking forward to the Super Villain's burning down the elite of Genoa City. Once Chelsea returns, she will want in on the fashion site built by Chloe, staring Sally Spectra and promoted by Atonal. Jealousy is a powerful motivator. Chelz will expect a throne to lord over Sally, who's already been run over too many times to count by untalented and unqualified asshats. Chelsea best watch herself, because she will make a very tempting target after getting off scot free for poisoning Rey Rey. 45 minutes ago, blackwing said: I agree... but if Sheila Carter can have not one but three sudden-revealed adult children, I would not at all be surprised if they find a way to explain all this. I forget what the explanation was on who Sally's parents are/were. I only recall that one of them (not sure if they ever specified) is the child of Shirley, the sister of Darlene Conley's Sally. Could easily say that Younger Sally's dad is the Spectra and impregnated Phyllis who gave him the baby to raise as his own. I think the timeline would be wonky, because as mentioned, since when would Phyllis have been gone for long enough to have had a baby, but hey, on this show Daniel is 40 and she's... 45. So clearly, show doesn't care about timeline and ages. Stop helping TIIC, Blackwing! I detested the Sheila Carter Again saga for the reasons you mentioned, and gave her no time. Die a thousand deaths you krazy hag. Sally's parents were/are itinerant carney folk. Edited August 12, 2021 by Cupid Stunt 3 6 Link to comment
peacheslatour August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 Quote I like how Victoria and Lock-ness are together; a match of equals. When he proposed with the sapphire ring, I had a few tears. AH looks better right now than I have ever seen her look. 11 Link to comment
blackwing August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said: Stop helping TIIC, Blackwing! Sally's parents were/are itinerant carney folk. Hah, I know I shouldn't help them. But I feel like most of us here could write better plots than TIIC. Sally was told that her parents were carnival folk, but in reality, she is the result of a night of carnival dumpster passion between Sal Spectra and a drunk/amnesiac Phyllis. Phyllis goes into a wing flapping frenzy when the memories flood back. She is horrified to learn that this woman she has vowed to destroy is in fact her own daughter. Meanwhile, Hunter King's attempt to make it big fails YET AGAIN when her latest primetime show gets cancelled. Girl needs to eat so she comes back to her permanent home (thanks Muhney for allegedly touching her breasts, this show is stuck with her for life). Phyllis is overjoyed that her dotter is home and now she has another dotter too! The three of them learn to adjust to this new familial relationship. Hilarity ensues. Meanwhile, Cro Magnon Nick is sitting in a corner, counting on his fingers and trying to do the math of when Phyllis might have been secretly pregnant. Seriously, they might as well just rename this show "Phyllis". Forget the "Young" part. It's just "Phyllis". Edited August 12, 2021 by blackwing 1 7 8 Link to comment
crowsworks August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, rcc said: Anybody else not able to like anything? Agree with the above. SC is worse than MS. At least MS can emote. Is that what flapping, grimacing and crowing is called 18 minutes ago, Waldo13 said: For me, Lauren is a suck ass boss. Sally was doing an excellent job, far better than Summer, and she basically fired Sally because of her friendship with Rodan. Lauren put emotion over business. Lauren knows as much about being a true business leader as Rodan knows about being altruistic. Especially since Lauren has done Way Worse 18 minutes ago, Waldo13 said: Nostrils you sanctimonious piece of shit gloating about Tara embezzling from her own company (contrived) while you embezzled from Jabot. Also, Tara was not worming her way into the Abbotts. Tara had a claim on Kyle because he was the baby daddy. Billy makes Tara look like an angel. 18 minutes ago, Waldo13 said: Even Banana Breath noticed that Rodan and Sally are very much alike but when it comes to train wrecks Jack, Rodan did you a hell of a lot more wrong to you than Sally could have. I’m quite sure if you and Sally were a couple, Sally would have never cheated on you Or laughed at you as she screwed your scum brother 18 minutes ago, Waldo13 said: God help us. Did we have to hear Rodan rehashing her victory to Amanda. It’s over but TIIC just have to give Rodan the floor to create more and more 🤢🤢🤮🤮. Three words for Rodan, Self Praise Stinks. But she is Amazine!!! 18 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:Why does every conversation about Tara makes her sound like a serial killer. What ever happened to innocent to proven guilty. If Nostrils and Lily publish the story about Tara, they have to use the word alleged before her name or she can sue upon vindicated. Thought if convicted it’s a white collar crime and as a first time offender, Tara most likely will get probation. Now, if there is a trial, the accountant would have to testify. A good lawyer will bring up that the accountant was first brought to GC to accuse Tara. Than Banana Breath would have to testify as to how he knew who Tara’s accountant was. Now hear’s another rub. Tara committed the alleged crime in NY so a warrant for her arrest had to be sworn out in NY and GC would be asked to execute said warrant. Since the accountant wasn’t in NY to speak to the police, why was a warrant issued on hear say evidence without the ability for Tara to defend herself. I want Tara to be the REAL Locke Ness Monster and order a hit on Rodan and maybe Ash and Mop. Make it happen 10 2 Link to comment
Cupid Stunt August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, blackwing said: Hah, I know I shouldn't help them. But I feel like most of us here could write better plots than TIIC. Sally was told that her parents were carnival folk, but in reality, she is the result of a night of carnival dumpster passion between Sal Spectra and a drunk/amnesiac Phyllis. Phyllis goes into a wing flapping frenzy when the memories flood back. She is horrified to learn that this woman she has vowed to destroy is in fact her own daughter. Meanwhile, Hunter King's attempt to make it big fails YET AGAIN when her latest primetime show gets cancelled. Girl needs to eat so she comes back to her permanent home (thanks Muhney for allegedly touching her breasts, this show is stuck with her for life). Phyllis is overjoyed that her dotter is home and now she has another dotter too! The three of them learn to adjust to this new familial relationship. Hilarity ensues. Meanwhile, Cro Magnon Nick is sitting in a corner, counting on his fingers and trying to do the math of when Phyllis might have been secretly pregnant. Seriously, they might as well just rename this show "Phyllis". Forget the "Young" part. It's just "Phyllis". You're killing me! 9 Link to comment
rcc August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 48 minutes ago, crowsworks said: Is that what flapping, grimacing and crowing is called Especially since Lauren has done Way Worse Billy makes Tara look like an angel. Or laughed at you as she screwed your scum brother But she is Amazine!!! I want Tara to be the REAL Locke Ness Monster and order a hit on Rodan and maybe Ash and Mop. Make it happen I meant MS can show emotion. If that means grimacing than so be it. Lol 12 1 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu August 12, 2021 Share August 12, 2021 (edited) So what's Stitch up to telling a lie that's so easily disproven? Hopefully Devon won't wait long to mention to Abby that Stitch did not get a new job at the hospital. Whoa, Amanda was looking all GC glamorous with her hair did and everything. Not sure about the skirt though. Looked like velvet or velour. I'd think that fabric would be too hot to wear right now. 🥵 Wait, Jack, you need to keep Sally's name out of your mouth. She is not your concern any more. And please, did we need a scene of Jack and Nick propping Phyllis in her absence? 😑 Ashland doesn't want Victoria involved in his medical treatment. Sus, or is the show just too cheap to build a another set? You're in the "journalism game," Billy? No. To put it in SAT test analogies terms, BILLY : JOURNALISM, STAPLER : CRUSTACEAN. It makes no sense, William. 🥴 Phyllis drinking to taking down selfish and manipulative people. I can't. There isn't enough alcohol in the world for her to making such a silly toast. Have ya looked in a mirror lately, hon? Hearing that Victoria was engaged to Ashland seems to have been a bit of a gut punch for Billy. Hmmm. The whole point of Moses moving to GC was to find out what it was like being a doctor and getting some extra points for college admission. If he's not into that anymore seems to me his mommy Sofia would make him come back to New York. 🤔 Anyhoo, that was an odd moment to me between Devon, Nate, and Moses. It was like an indoctrination meeting for The Secret. Hope Ashland's hair isn't going to fall out from his treatments. He could probably rock a bald head though, in a Bruce Willis kind of way. Nick, it's called aiding & abetting. Don't get it twisted. Phyllis let her jealousy get the best of her and made you her partner-in- crime to alleviate the pressure. And now she's slowly moving Jack into her back pocket. Mess is coming. 😒 Jack, have you met Billy before? At one time he was fcuking your wife and rubbing your nose in it. Doing a tabloid story about his nephew's impending custody battle with the man he cuckolded is small potatoes. And wherever John Abbott's ghost is, he's likely not too thrilled with either of his sons right now. You go sit down and be quiet. 🙄 Edited August 12, 2021 by Joimiaroxeu 12 Link to comment
boes August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 Preverts, one and all, You're on FIRE today! If only Show was an iota as fun as all you are. 45 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said: You're in the "journalism game," Billy? No. To put it in SAT test analogies terms, BILLY : JOURNALISM, STAPLER : CRUSTACEAN. It makes no sense, William. 🥴 It might be me. It's probably me. But in this alternative universe where Genoa City is apparently set, the HOT HOT HOT story of the year is about some wife of some rich executive who embezzled from her own company? Yeah? I'd read through the first story - maybe - but any follow up articles would have to come with money attached to get me to read another. In this Mirror Universe, is the Wall Street Journal considered premier porn? Does Bizzaro Earth Genoa City style, live and breath on the doings of a midwest cheese town? Is the national sport not baseball but competitive butter churning? I can't see anyone other than Mr. Burns and Smithers salivating for the next installment. I bet they'd love a Phyllis fold out, too. I don't get it. That goes for Newman Media too. Speaking of big heads, how on earth is Dr. Nate Natey Nate Nate Nate gonna get that bloated noggin of his through the door of the hospital? The pained expression he had on his face when Moses said he didn't want to be a doctor anymore made me think he'd just unexpectedly sat on a nail gun. Not everybody worships the scalpel you wield, Doctor, and nobody but yourself and your mother thinks you walk on water. Nate really thinks the world is clamoring for a room deodorizer named "Dr. Nate's Nether Regions". Calm yourself DOWN, Doc. Not everyone wants to be you. Besides, Moses deciding not to become a doctor shouldn't be that big of a surprise. He's young. I bet last month he wanted to be a cowboy. Jack, did you fall on your head after Nick left you? Because that's the only reason I can come up with that made you think appealing to ButtBiscuit's better nature was worth a try. They say the eyes are the windows to the soul. Jack, in your brother ButtBiscuit's case, you know that his nostrils are the windows to his soul. Look deep. What do you see? Look hard. Does this look like a guy who's gonna help you? I thought not. And Lily? You desperately need therapy. Just not from Sharon. 14 3 Link to comment
peacheslatour August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 Quote Ashland doesn't want Victoria involved in his medical treatment. Sus, or is the show just too cheap to build a another set? I wish I didn't know that the answer is B. 10 3 Link to comment
SweePea59 August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 2 hours ago, boes said: Nate Natey Nate Nate Nate Is that to the tune of Shave and a Haircut? 14 Link to comment
Waldo13 August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 In answer to an question in a previous post, TIIC are being cheap with not wanting Olive Oyl involved in Ashland’s treatment. I’m not sure if all treatment rooms are the same, but my wife’s treatment room made accommodations for someone being able to sit with the patient. There were 6 patients receiving chemo at the same time and every one had a loved ones sitting with them even though some didn’t have the same loved one every day, It became a pretty cathartic group. In the group, my wife had pancreatic cancer but there were 2 breast cancer patients and 3 lung cancer patients so the length of the chemo infusion varied but all lasted at least 2 hrs. They had cancer in common but all received radiation in addition to chemo. 6 5 Link to comment
pearlite August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 20 hours ago, rcc said: Anybody else not able to like anything? Agree with the above. SC is worse than MS. At least MS can emote. "Not able to like anything?" That is so accurate where I'm concerned at this point. Yes, Mr Burgi brings it in every scene, and seems to have chemistry with any scene partner, along with bringing the silver-fox element. Now, can I think of anything else I don't FF through? Gimme a minute here...I don't actually fall into a light coma when Phyllis is on--and for me, that's a first. Now, let's not put SC and acting in the same sentence--oil and water. At best, she's one-note and one vague-eyed note at that. And for a real professional or whatever, and presumably a mother, she's just kind of vaguely [intentional repetition] tuning in to generalized concern over Mariah? As well, costuming has been making her look all lady-like with the dresses and so on. I presume this is to soften us up for the inevitable back-stab of Rey and the more than inevitable AA meeting...which in social-media stanspeak translates as "oh, she's so sweet, and you know they're meant to be..." and so on. As a great old standard's chorus runs, "But not for me." 13 Link to comment
Chatty Cake August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 Why’s Victor in his leather jacket in August? 12 5 Link to comment
Chatty Cake August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 Poor Mariah’s got the biggest bunch of idiots on her team. 8 11 Link to comment
Chatty Cake August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 Nick uses way too much hair gel. 3 5 Link to comment
Waldo13 August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 Oh Happy Day, Oh joyous day when Rodan is not there to flap her wings and breathing fire on GC. There is one thing that Rodan would be beneficial for is to use her amazing hacking skills to find Mariah. Even Kevin is not as good as Rodan 🙄. Why is Nikki seemingly promoting teenage sex? I guess Nikki was all for it as a teenager. Maybe next Nikki may want for Faith to follow in her footsteps as an exotic dancer. How tall is Moses? Faith is 5’5” and he towers over her. Moses better put a helmet on his soldier or we are going to get a PSA on teenage pregnancy. Victor is no dope and maybe he has Ashland pegged with faking his cancer diagnosis to take over the empire. This could fit with Ashland not wanting Olive by his side during chemo. Though being able, for Ashland to fake a cancer diagnosis, is possible but not probable without a major conspiracy. I’m quite sure that Victor and Ashland are equals in doing what needs to be done when it comes to business opportunities. Victor has found an adversary that makes Jack look like an amateur. Victor views Ashland an equal where he’s actually dismissive of Jack. Every conversation Olive seems to have no matter what’s the subject good or bad, Olive makes it conversational. According to the previews, there is going to be one day that’s a must not watch. I guess some posters know what day that’s going to be 🤢🤮. 3 5 5 Link to comment
nasir jones August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said: Poor Mariah’s got the biggest bunch of idiots on her team. Two months ago… “Mariah is acting strangely. I think something is wrong. We should do something about it.” One month ago… “Mariah is acting strangely. I think something is wrong. We should do something about it.” Today… “Mariah is acting strangely. I think something is wrong. We should do something about it.” Three years from now… “Mariah is acting strangely. I think something is wrong. We should do something about it.” OTOH, Nick seemed to not give a damn. Maybe if they changed Mariah’s name to “Dumpster Humper’s rusty (bleep)”, he’ll become interested. 1 12 2 Link to comment
Chatty Cake August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, Waldo13 said: Oh Happy Day, Oh joyous day when Rodan is not there to flap her wings and breathing fire on GC. There is one thing that Rodan would be beneficial for is to use her amazing hacking skills to find Mariah. Even Kevin is not as good as Rodan 🙄. Why is Nikki seemingly promoting teenage sex? I guess Nikki was all for it as a teenager. Maybe next Nikki may want for Faith to follow in her footsteps as an exotic dancer. How tall is Moses? Faith is 5’5” and he towers over her. Moses better put a helmet on his soldier or we are going to get a PSA on teenage pregnancy. Victor is no dope and maybe he has Ashland pegged with faking his cancer diagnosis to take over the empire. This could fit with Ashland not wanting Olive by his side during chemo. Though being able, for Ashland to fake a cancer diagnosis, is possible but not probable without a major conspiracy. I’m quite sure that Victor and Ashland are equals in doing what needs to be done when it comes to business opportunities. Victor has found an adversary that makes Jack look like an amateur. Victor views Ashland an equal where he’s actually dismissive of Jack. Every conversation Olive seems to have no matter what’s the subject good or bad, Olive makes it conversational. According to the previews, there is going to be one day that’s a must not watch. I guess some posters know what day that’s going to be 🤢🤮. Asshole Appreciation Day 11 Link to comment
MollyB August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, Waldo13 said: According to the previews, there is going to be one day that’s a must not watch. I guess some posters know what day that’s going to be Judging from comments here, I'd say it is every day. =snerk= 9 1 Link to comment
crowsworks August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 1 hour ago, nasir jones said: OTOH, Nick seemed to not give a damn. Maybe if they changed Mariah’s name to “Dumpster Humper’s rusty (bleep)”, he’ll become interested. As I said before - not so much rusty as dusty 8 Link to comment
bannana August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Waldo13 said: Victor is no dope and maybe he has Ashland pegged with faking his cancer diagnosis to take over the empire. This could fit with Ashland not wanting Olive by his side during chemo. Though being able, for Ashland to fake a cancer diagnosis, is possible but not probable without a major conspiracy. I’m quite sure that Victor and Ashland are equals in doing what needs to be done when it comes to business opportunities. Victor has found an adversary that makes Jack look like an amateur. Victor views Ashland an equal where he’s actually dismissive of Jack. I was very excited that Pricktor finally confronted Ashland and came right out with his suspicions. But then Ashland gave his word that he really is sick and that he really does love Victoria. This cannot be true--I was so waiting for the day when Ashland's big con was revealed and that he did everything as a power grab. Maybe he does love Vic, but I still don't think he is dying and I think this was always his plan, only now the love bit complicates it. 6 5 Link to comment
peacheslatour August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 Quote Maybe he does love Vic, but I still don't think he is dying and I think this was always his plan, only now the love bit complicates it. This is a very smart theory. In fact I've seen Hollywood movies from the Golden Age with this very premise. Which means it'll never happen on Y&R because TIIC hate us. 3 4 5 Link to comment
bittersweet4149 August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Waldo13 said: According to the previews, there is going to be one day that’s a must not watch. I guess some posters know what day that’s going to be 🤢🤮. Rodan's Repulsive Revelry, aka Ph*ckery with Phyllis 🙄 8 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 Hate to say it but Faith and Moses are not working for me. Both of them seem like they're just going through the motions and are barely containing their boredom. I liked Sharon's dress. That vibrant blue and green looked good on her. Meanwhile, Victoria's eyebrows. Did she paint them on with a black magic marker? 😼 Lol, Victor just lets himself into Victoria's house when she's not home. Good thing Ashland wasn't doing something extremely personal on the couch or his future FIL would've gotten an eyeful. Probably a BIG eyeful, amirite? 😏 Abby, that's what you get for trying to use Mariah as your personal baby factory. You should've gone with a stranger for a surrogate, and an anonymous sperm donor. What you did pretty much guaranteed there'd be drama. 🤨 Would Stitch have knowledge of super secret agent cellphone technology? That sounds more like it might be Chance who kidnapped Mariah. Or Ronan. If Ashland hasn't been running a scheme to take over NE, Victor just gave him the idea. Not so smart, Vic. You're going to have get up earlier in the morning to rattle Ashland apparently. Wow, a random mention of Paul. Bet that'll set DD's teeth on edge again. Wonder why the show doesn't just kill Paul off and make Rey chief of police? Re the previews: Phyllis Appreciation Day?!!!????!!?!!! AYFKMWTS, Show? 💩💩💩💩☠☠☠☠😱😱😱😱 But Sally getting a "I have a particular set of skills" warning from Nikki? Okay, let's go! Yeah! 4 7 Link to comment
Waldo13 August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 I got into my logical headspace this afternoon and rewatched Moses and Faith in the park ready to go to the next level. Ok, how far is the next level? If you notice Moses and Faith kissing was filmed from behind Faith’s head and not the side like most kisses so was there an actual lip lock. Are TIIC not willing to go as far as two teenagers really kissing? If so, are they willing to have the gratuitous couch session between Moses and Faith? I wouldn’t know if this was done In Y&R history for the president to be set. In addition, I’m trying to figure out why a dislike Rodan so much. Is it her constant confrontations? Is it her smugness? Is it her voice? Is it her posturing? Is it believing that her shit doesn’t stink? Is it her gloating that the ends always justifies the means? Is that she sees in others that she doesn’t recognize in herself? Is it her self praise? Is it her selfishness? Than I came to the realization it’s everything I previously mentioned and it’s the totality of Rodan. 11 Link to comment
Sake614 August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 I’ll sit at my table for one but I hope Ashland isn’t playing Victoria. I really like them together and for probably the first time since I started watching this show, I like Victoria. I don’t want this to all be some long con and for her to get hurt. What I would love is for them to be a real power couple, running Newman-Locke together. Phyllis Appreciation Day? WTAF? I’ll most certainly be skipping that episode. I liked Sharon’s dress. That’s about the nicest thing I can say since that whole story bores me to tears. These people are just too stupid to live. And that includes Detective Rey Rey. why is Victor wearing a leather jacket in his home in the middle of August? Why is Nikki divulging Faith’s childhood stories to Moses? They’re not engaged or married. he’s 16' I think she’s 14 or 15. I would have been mortified and told her to STFU (as nicely as possible of course). 1 12 Link to comment
peacheslatour August 13, 2021 Share August 13, 2021 Quote In addition, I’m trying to figure out why a dislike Rodan so much. Is it her constant confrontations? Is it her smugness? Is it her voice? Is it her posturing? Is it believing that her shit doesn’t stink? Is it her gloating that the ends always justifies the means? Is that she sees in others that she doesn’t recognize in herself? Is it her self praise? Is it her selfishness? Than I came to the realization it’s everything I previously mentioned and it’s the totality of Rodan. Yes. 4 5 Link to comment
Waldo13 August 14, 2021 Share August 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sake614 said: Why is Nikki divulging Faith’s childhood stories to Moses? They’re not engaged or married. he’s 16' I think she’s 14 or 15. I would have been mortified and told her to STFU (as nicely as possible of course). Nikki is just being an inappropriate grandmother who really doesn’t know any better. Nikki was also inappropriate pushing for Faith to have sex (next level). Nikki didn’t think that Sharon was capable of having that conversation. Faith’s father is useless. Since Faith was recasted, she went from 13 to 16 in a day. In real life, old Faith is 13 and new Faith is 19. Edited August 14, 2021 by Waldo13 2 3 Link to comment
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