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3 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Because Bailey Lou was sick.

Which was still dumb.  Spinelli and Felicia performed half an hour before the kids, but didn't stick around to see their children/grandchildren perform?  Or went home to releive Maxie so she could see two of her children perform?  

2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

rolled my eyes at Willow and Drew breathlessly telling Mac about a "kidnapping" and naming Jason.

Drew's been a revolving door of accusing and having people arrested (Tracy, Tracy, Tracy, Jason).  I need Mac to either arrest Drew for bothering his staff or just toss him the f*ck out of that precinct.  

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29 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

And yes, since Willow has custody of the kids, taking Amelia from her home is kidnapping

Does she? Have legal custody? I don’t recall any papers being signed to that effect.  Michael let her take the kids the night of the reveal and then got blowed up. Not sure if the legalities but either way it wasn’t cool for Jason and Sasha to just walk off with Amelia. And that babysitter should be fired for allowing it 

agree with everyone re JE. That woman really needs to teach a master class in acting. She went from righteous indignation to gentle and caring in the blink of an eye. Was she a bit overbearing with her ‘this is your family and all of this is yours?’ Yeah but I’ll forgive it 

glad BL read Lois for filth and I hope Ned does too. 

could’ve done without the love scene. Ka is handsome but there’s no ‘there’ there.

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6 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

In Olivia's defense, it was only Sonny who didn't know he had a kid. The rest of Bensonhurst knew about Dante and who his father is.

Nobody else knew except cousin Kate.  If I remember correctly, Olivia had let everyone else (parents, brothers...)think that it was some guy at a party and not Sonny, who was her boyfriend before she dumped him becuase he was already turning into a mini mobster.  She said something about having to live with everyone thinking she was a slut for picking up a random guy and sleeping with him and getting pregnant, but that was better than Sonny finding out the truth.  

1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

And yes, since Willow has custody of the kids,

and 

 

1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

Does she? Have legal custody?

No she doesn't.  That's the whole point of the custody hearing that's coming up on June 2nd and why Martin wanted to find dirt on MIchael to strenghthen their case.  

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5 minutes ago, Perkie said:

If I remember correctly, Olivia had let everyone else (parents, brothers...)think that it was some guy at a party and not Sonny, who was her boyfriend before she dumped him becuase he was already turning into a mini mobster.  She said something about having to live with everyone thinking she was a slut for picking up a random guy and sleeping with him and getting pregnant, but that was better than Sonny finding out the truth.  

That's right.  Though Sonny had to be pretty dumb to not even question it.  Especially when he found out that Dante, like him, was a big Yankees fan.  I mean, that's pretty rare and definitely passed down in the father's DNA.  /s

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3 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Love her, but of course Tracey has to tell Gio... "all this is YOURS!" Like that matters right now.  

 

 

I'm going to defend Tracy. I don't think she was saying all this is yours" like money rah rah. I think she was saying. all this is YOURS as in you do have a family (and they didn't know).

this is just my little rage at the writers. I love the Q's i really do and I GET where Gio is right now mentaly, but man does it really burn my craw that we're getting another Q and it's going to be "oh i want nothing to do w/the family." like stop. it. 

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Michael comes with Wylie and finds Sasha with Amelia. I don't yet if they have chemistry but I can see how happy Sasha was to see Michael and Michael was to see her. Prior to their drunken hook-up, both of them had a bunch scenes were they confided in each other and showed that they were still friends that cared about each other.

I think the plan originally was to have Jason pretend to be the dad and have him and Sasha develop feelings for each other. That didn't really happen and with nuHotMichael, he is back before the baby will be born and messier (and hopefully more interesting story) will be the news that they are having a baby together.

Best scenes were with Tracy as she realizes that Gio is her great-grandson and trying to encourage him to give the Qs a chance.

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Am i the only one who heard Lulu correct Cody when he tried to diminish Gio's adoptive mother as not his real mother? When he did that, Lulu quickly said that the woman who raised him was still his mother. Right now he might be thrown and upset about everything but in time, he would go back to thinking of and remembering her as his mother.

It's the same thing Tracy started to tell him when he said the mother he loved and who loved him was all a lie. She told him it wasn't.

Lulu acknowledged that BLQ would be a great mother to Gio when things settled, but also acknowledged that the woman who raised him was his mother too. Based on what Lulu said in this ep, it did seem like she was thinking of the fallout, and knew it was terrible. She was just looking beyond the fallout in the belief that it would have a happy ending because of her faith in all the parties... including Brooklyn.

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10 minutes ago, driver18 said:

It's the same thing Tracy started to tell him when he said the mother he loved and who loved him was all a lie. She told him it wasn't.

I thought this was a lovely moment, with Tracey being so compassionate and sincere.  It's a side of her that we don't often get to see.

I would be okay if GIo shunned everyone except Tracey.

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We need a lawyer to clarify ( @lala2?) but it seems to me that Willow had custody of the children even if it wasn't formal custody and Jason can't just walk into her home and take Amelia away without her consent even if Michael sent him.

I don't dislike Michael/Sasha on principle but I really hate how 100% Sasha is on Michael's side. In the beginning she took the children to the main house and would not let Willow go and pick them up, and now she is fine taking Amelia from Willow's home without her knowledge. I don't like Drew but he's not a monster, he's not going to hurt Wylie and Amelia. This obsession she has of keeping the children from their mother makes the idea of her in a relationship with Michael very unpleasant.

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Nina needs to shut up to Sonny on compromise when her idiot daughter keeps on as Drew's puppet.  

Cody's walking home from Lulu's to Qs? 

Sasha such the hypocrite still getting involved in Willows family business and her kids while claiming Jason as her fake baby daddy while attacking Quartermaines that Michael can't be the dad. 

Lois ran around the courtyard looking for Gio, did she think he was under a table? He made it all the way home and packed. Lol 

Tracy killed it today. She was the best part with her reaction and her showing Gio her family. 

Brooklyn lied not for Dante, but herself. Lois lied for nobody but herself. 

I like new Michael, but they should probably deage Willey since Michael younger. And it's obvious she difference with Sasha too. 

Tracy better get to kick Lois out now. 

Lois should be really never be forgiven. Brooklyn telling her off and to stay away was good. Rena Sofer was pretty terrible in these scenes though. 

Ned better rip hypocrite Lois who took Brooklyn because being raised a Q and around Qs would be so bad to shreds. 

Isn't Kai supposed to be recovering? Sex montage seemed out of place. 

 

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9 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

We need a lawyer to clarify ( @lala2?) but it seems to me that Willow had custody of the children even if it wasn't formal custody and Jason can't just walk into her home and take Amelia away without her consent even if Michael sent him.

I don't dislike Michael/Sasha on principle but I really hate how 100% Sasha is on Michael's side. In the beginning she took the children to the main house and would not let Willow go and pick them up, and now she is fine taking Amelia from Willow's home without her knowledge. I don't like Drew but he's not a monster, he's not going to hurt Wylie and Amelia. This obsession she has of keeping the children from their mother makes the idea of her in a relationship with Michael very unpleasant.

I’m not sure if even a lawyer can help because as usual this show just picks and chooses what laws to portray accurately and when. Ava and Sonny were supposed to have a 50/50 custody arrangement. After Sonny kicked her out of his penthouse after she dared to out a bigot as being a bigot, he just decided that not only was he not going to honor the custody agreement, but he wouldn’t even let Ava see Avery. That one time she tried to take her from the park everyone - including Ric - said it would have been kidnapping. Without a court order, only two people have any claim to custody of Wiley and Amelia - Willow and Michael. Even if Jason was doing it at Michael’s request he (and Sasha) had no business walking into her home and taking one of her kids.

I know you shouldn’t lay hands on a pregnant woman but I would not blame Willow if she had a strong urge to cold cock Sasha the next time she sees her. Sasha’s attitude toward Willow is not just judgmental but weird. They were friends for a long time. They had one argument and ever since have been acting like mortal enemies. Sasha keeps telling Willow that she can’t admit to making a mistake with Drew because she would have to admit she blew her life apart for nothing. I have a feeling it’s similar for Sasha. She has to make Willow this ultimate evil/horrible mother otherwise she might have to look in the mirror and admit she screwed her (former) best friend’s husband behind her back and has been consistently (and without remorse) lying to her face about it. 

 

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14 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I know you shouldn’t lay hands on a pregnant woman but I would not blame Willow if she had a strong urge to cold cock Sasha the next time she sees her. Sasha’s attitude toward Willow is not just judgmental but weird. They were friends for a long time. They had one argument and ever since have been acting like mortal enemies. Sasha keeps telling Willow that she can’t admit to making a mistake with Drew because she would have to admit she blew her life apart for nothing. I have a feeling it’s similar for Sasha. She has to make Willow this ultimate evil/horrible mother otherwise she might have to look in the mirror and admit she screwed her (former) best friend’s husband behind her back and has been consistently (and without remorse) lying to her face about it. 

 

The same. Honestly. I can't remember how this started but did Willow and Sasha actually talk about the kiss? like they were friends. but the way I remember it, it felt like Sasha was telling the entire world about it, including Michael, screwed him, is basically hiding his baby so no one knows what she did and then judging Willow for his mistakes. 

and honestly, like i get that willow had an affair and the marriage is over, but like.... if she just woke up like Kramer vs Kramer and said I don't want to be married anymore because Michael doens't make me happy, and THEN chose to be with drew would people still be "you can't be w/the kids because DANGER." like it's so dumb. 

DUMBER because it's perfectly okay that they STILL hang out w/Grandpa Sonny where daddy had his body melted off so . yah.confused

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2 minutes ago, Daisy said:

The same. Honestly. I can't remember how this started but did Willow and Sasha actually talk about the kiss? like they were friends. but the way I remember it, it felt like Sasha was telling the entire world about it, including Michael, screwed him, is basically hiding his baby so no one knows what she did and then judging Willow for his mistakes. 

 

They didn't talk about the kiss. Sasha saw Willow and Drew smooching. She was concerned and talked to Cody about it. Cody was the one who revealed to everyone at the bar about the kiss. Willow found out that Sasha knew and blamed her for betraying her about the secret smooching and has been annoyed with Sasha since then. Sasha has been annoyed with Willow.

Now Sasha and Willow may have been "best" friends prior to this but Sasha was Michael's friend first and she chose his side after Willow and Michael broke up.

Mostly great episode, IMO.  Certainly the soapiest episode I've seen on any soap lately.   But WOW, Lulu is one cold, clueless b****.  So glib, so blithe about how Gio's world got changed in an instant, all because she just had to make sure Dante knows he's got a grown biological son.  Or stick it to Brooklyn, or just do something to pass the time, for all I know.  Cody, at least, has the wherewithal to reflect on the damage this just did to Gio.  Not Lulu.

If it was only possible to send someone on an all expenses paid 4 year coma, I bet there are plenty of folks in Port Charles who would be happy to contribute.

Good performances all around.

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10 minutes ago, Daisy said:

The same. Honestly. I can't remember how this started but did Willow and Sasha actually talk about the kiss? like they were friends. but the way I remember it, it felt like Sasha was telling the entire world about it, including Michael, screwed him, is basically hiding his baby so no one knows what she did and then judging Willow for his mistakes. 

and honestly, like i get that willow had an affair and the marriage is over, but like.... if she just woke up like Kramer vs Kramer and said I don't want to be married anymore because Michael doens't make me happy, and THEN chose to be with drew would people still be "you can't be w/the kids because DANGER." like it's so dumb. 

DUMBER because it's perfectly okay that they STILL hang out w/Grandpa Sonny where daddy had his body melted off so . yah.confused

 

2 minutes ago, nilyank said:

They didn't talk about the kiss. Sasha saw Willow and Drew smooching. She was concerned and talked to Cody about it. Cody was the one who revealed to everyone at the bar about the kiss. Willow found out that Sasha knew and blamed her for betraying her about the secret smooching and has been annoyed with Sasha since then. Sasha has been annoyed with Willow.

Now Sasha and Willow may have been "best" friends prior to this but Sasha was Michael's friend first and she chose his side after Willow and Michael broke up.

Yes, they did talk about the kiss. I can’t remember if they talked about both kisses, but Sasha did admit she saw the first kiss. Unlike now, she wasn’t judgmental about it. That’s part of the reason Willow was so pissed when she found out Sasha had told Cody because Sasha had said she wouldn’t say anything (though in Sasha’s defense she told Cody before she and Willow had talked about it.) Willow laid into Sasha about telling Cody. She seemed like she was gong to get over it and then found out Sasha had been lying about her real mother being dead. Finally, Sasha had enough and rightfully told Willow that she was to blame for being unfaithful (leaving out that she had already slept with Michael.) Neither one said anything that was so hurtful it couldn’t be taken back. I thought their next scene would be one or both of them apologizing, instead their next scene was Sasha barging into Willow’s house (sensing a pattern here) and basically telling Willow she wouldn’t allow her to leave with her kids. It’s been catty sniping ever since, now with more custodial interference on Sasha’s part. 
 

Mature adults don’t always have to pick a side when two friends break up, especially since Michael wasn’t asking her to. Sasha has had a lot of practice towing the line when people she cares about are at odds. She’s refused to side between Nina and Carly. She didn’t pick a side when Sonny and Nina broke up. 

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So, the last time I paid attention to this custody story, I thought Willow had temporary custody of the kids. I would assume that meant she had temporary sole physical and legal custody. If that’s the case, then nuMichael should be found in contempt for violating the court order. He can’t just take the kids if an order has placed them in her care. GH won’t care though. He’s a Corinthos and she committed the unforgivable sin of cheating on him 🙄 so I’m guessing her kids are gone. 

I told yall, I have no interest in another custody story so I muted the Millow stuff today but from what I’ve seen on Twitter, the Willow haters are very happy. I’m sure GH will have Michael prevail over Willow. He is Sonny’s son. Whatever. It’s funny b/c I’m not even a Willow fan but all the OTT outrage about her cheating has been wild to me! People seriously want the character dead and/or to lose her kids forever b/c she cheated on precious Michael! And the accusations that she kept the kids from him are wild to me too. When? When he was out of the country in a burn unit?!? Huh?!?  

I also agree w/those who still dislike Sasha. She was ruined - in my eyes - the moment she slept with Michael. I don’t like how she’s so judgmental of Willow! Ugh… I can’t tolerate her. I definitely don’t want to see her with Michael - two judgmental jerks aren’t my cup of tea even if Drew is involved! He’s an ass but he’s not the worst! 

I did enjoy all the Gio  and Gio-related scenes today though! Those were great!

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As much as I don't like the Gio storyline, the performances have been really good and the conversations seem really honest.  JE really elevates the performances of anyone within a 10-mile radius of her, so there's probably more good stuff on the horizon.  DZ looks confused, heartbroken, and angry all at once.  I feel like if we were going with a BLQ heretofore unknown teen pregnancy story (completely contrary to what we saw onscreen for her teenage years), having it as Diego's baby wherein she didn't want to raise the baby of a serial killer who killed some of her friends and then having Gio grapple with wondering if that darkness was inside him too would be the more compelling story, but this is what we have.  

From the little bit that I've seen, I like new Michael. 

Was Kai even cleared to leave the hospital, much less cleared for sex? Also, while speaking of semi-recent surgeries, doesn't Lulu have a new liver to take care of? 

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Great show today. The reveals were nice reacted to and played. Weirdly, Carly & Jason were there for a minute and weren’t seen for the rest of the episode.

The Lois & Brook Lynn confrontation was well played but I was surprised that Rena Sofer can’t cry. She squinted her eyes the whole episode but not one tear came out. You’d think with all her years in daytime she’s know to shed tears. Maybe, she hadn’t and I just never noticed.

The Tracy, Gio and Emma were nicely played. Was Tracy a little OTT? Yes. That’s Tracy!!! LOL!!!

I think the Michael and Sasha scenes were really good. They both played it like they were really happy to see each other. It’s hard to tell from one day but I’m not as worried about their pickup. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. 

Willow and Drew. Ugh! Like Sonny said to Nina, can’t you find someway to get Willow to realize Drew is a sleezebag? Preach Sonny! Preach! Nina just tell Willow that you slept with Drew and put us all out of our Drew misery. 

Trina and Kai didn’t have couch sex. That’s a plus. 

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On 5/23/2025 at 11:11 AM, MarciNJ said:

her only mistake was never telling Dante about the pregnancy when they were older (but really, what would that accomplish?  I'm on the fence about this aspect);

Besides being legally required before putting a baby up for adoption, it would have given Dante and Olivia the opportunity to raise Gio themselves even if Brook Lynn didn't want to.

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6 hours ago, ByaNose said:

Great show today. The reveals were nice reacted to and played. Weirdly, Carly & Jason were there for a minute and weren’t seen for the rest of the episode.

The Lois & Brook Lynn confrontation was well played but I was surprised that Rena Sofer can’t cry. She squinted her eyes the whole episode but not one tear came out. You’d think with all her years in daytime she’s know to shed tears. Maybe, she hadn’t and I just never noticed.

The Tracy, Gio and Emma were nicely played. Was Tracy a little OTT? Yes. That’s Tracy!!! LOL!!!

I think the Michael and Sasha scenes were really good. They both played it like they were really happy to see each other. It’s hard to tell from one day but I’m not as worried about their pickup. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. 

Willow and Drew. Ugh! Like Sonny said to Nina, can’t you find someway to get Willow to realize Drew is a sleezebag? Preach Sonny! Preach! Nina just tell Willow that you slept with Drew and put us all out of our Drew misery. 

Trina and Kai didn’t have couch sex. That’s a plus. 

Rena not squeezing out any tears was really noticeable to me.  I was surprised too.  I also thought they have some kind of eye drops for that, if they can't get it done?  

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Pretty good show yesterday, except for the Kai and Trina "Endless Love" wuv scenes.

Anyhoo, I had to laugh at the way Drew and Willow stormed into the PCPD and demanded that Mac arrest Jason for KIDNAPPING! Jason was at the Nurses Ball with these two idiots. It's SASHA who kidnapped Amelia.

And yes, this show plays too fast and loose with the law, business, politics and hell, anything, but there was no court order giving sole custody to Willow while...and for now, I will drop the moniker, NuNuMichael*, was getting treatment. But like I stated above, like this show gives any bluedilly fucks if anything makes sense.

Jane Elliot was just amazing. She's the BEST and Frank is LUCKY she agreed to come back. What I especially loved (in addition to how she went from screaming about being arrested to learning Gio was her great-grandson) was when she returned to the mansion, her hair was all mussed up, demonstrating she did NOT have a good night.

I remember Jane in Knots Landing, after she left this show the first time, and her stints on Mothership Law & Order. Oh! and she was one of the nuns in Elvis Presley's last movie, Change of Habit.

So, as others have stated, she elevates EVERYTHING and makes others step up their game.

*Original SORAS'D Michael, Drew Garrett was talented and HOT, but they jettisoned him off as flotsam and i we had to suffer with the likes of Chad Duell for nearly two decades.

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58 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Anyhoo, I had to laugh at the way Drew and Willow stormed into the PCPD and demanded that Mac arrest Jason for KIDNAPPING! Jason was at the Nurses Ball with these two idiots. It's SASHA who kidnapped Amelia.

They both went to get Amelia and Drillow have no idea at this point Sasha's involvement.

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31 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

They both went to get Amelia and Drillow have no idea at this point Sasha's involvement.

But wasn't Jason there, when Willow got the call from her nanny/babysitter? Or maybe Jason and Sasha did the deed and then Jason showed up, to tell them not to follow whoever? 

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11 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

But wasn't Jason there, when Willow got the call from her nanny/babysitter? Or maybe Jason and Sasha did the deed and then Jason showed up, to tell them not to follow whoever? 

Sasha told Michael Jason called her to come with him so it would be "less scary for Amelia," so Jason definitely took her.

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14 hours ago, Perkie said:
21 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

In Olivia's defense, it was only Sonny who didn't know he had a kid. The rest of Bensonhurst knew about Dante and who his father is.

Nobody else knew except cousin Kate.  If I remember correctly, Olivia had let everyone else (parents, brothers...)think that it was some guy at a party and not Sonny, who was her boyfriend before she dumped him becuase he was already turning into a mini mobster.  She said something about having to live with everyone thinking she was a slut for picking up a random guy and sleeping with him and getting pregnant, but that was better than Sonny finding out the truth.  

Thanks for the history correction, @Perkie. It remains true that Olivia's pregnancy wasn't kept a secret, just who the father was.

14 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Though Sonny had to be pretty dumb to not even question it.  Especially when he found out that Dante, like him, was a big Yankees fan.  I mean, that's pretty rare and definitely passed down in the father's DNA.  /s

Don't forget Dante likes pasta, also a rare trait.

14 hours ago, Daisy said:

does it really burn my craw that we're getting another Q and it's going to be "oh i want nothing to do w/the family." like stop. it. 

I know. It's really tiresome, especially because they all end up using the name/influence/power when they need it.

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5 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

 

I remember Jane in Knots Landing, after she left this show the first time, and her stints on Mothership Law & Order. Oh! and she was one of the nuns in Elvis Presley's last movie, Change of Habit.

So, as others have stated, she elevates EVERYTHING and makes others step up their game.

 

strongly agree that JE was amazing yesterday, and in general, but point of fact, she could NOT elevate Change of Habit, yeesh that was a stinker. 😆

 

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Kudos to DZ for Dante's feelings of betrayal in the scenes with Brook Lynn and then Chase, too. While Tracy means well, Dante is entitled to all his feelings toward Brook Lynn.

It was interesting to see Lois not once admit that what she did was wrong. The arrogance of Lois to declare to Olivia that Gio grew up with "the best people in the world" and to defend her choices to Ned. He was totally right that she reinforced Brook Lynn's feelings of shame by agreeing not to tell him and getting Brook Lynn out of town "before she started to show."  I really wish he had pointed out why are you living with us now for free and why did you bring Gio, if we couldn't be trusted. Hopefully he'll kick her out and say it.

NuEmma had few lines yet she's used as Robin's daughter to prop Sonny for "helping people." Ughhh.

The look on Willow's and Drew's faces when Mac presented them with the paperwork showing Michael has custody now until the hearing ... priceless. Nina has figured out who Sasha's baby daddy is, but is that really ammunition for the hearing? There's a video of Willow and Drew having sex in the kids' playroom while she's married to Michael.

RS still not shedding a tear was very apparent after multiple confrontations but no runny makeup, and then Sonny talking to her softly.

The preview of Dante confronting Lulu looks interesting. 

Lois apparently has convinced herself that everything she did with Gloria was to protect her daughter and grandson.

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18 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:

strongly agree that JE was amazing yesterday, and in general, but point of fact, she could NOT elevate Change of Habit, yeesh that was a stinker. 😆

 

But she knew ELVIS!!!!!!!

Whaaat?

11 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Lois apparently has convinced herself that everything she did with Gloria was to protect her daughter and grandson.

I've no sympathy for Lois in this. None at all. Or Gloria. But right on schedule, Frank ruins another good character.

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Olivia, just because you were okay being a teen mom doesn't mean everyone should be. Be mad at Lois for lying about Gio, but BL made the choice that was right for her, even if you don't like it.

58 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

The look on Willow's and Drew's faces when Mac presented them with the paperwork showing Michael has custody now until the hearing ... priceless.

That can't happen often enough, especially when Drew gets all sassy and threatens, "Do I have to go over your head?" to Mac.

"Michael, don't do this. Don't take my children away from me." But it's okay for you to take Michael's children away from him, Willow?

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So Sasha and Michael were all over one another in a bar , drunk as skunks. This doesn’t prove  they had sex or that he’s the father of her baby. Says the Devil’s advocate. 

Emma looks gorgeous in the scene in the bridge. The dress is still a HAM but her hair / makeup was perfection. 
 


 

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Wow. Rena Sofer can't cry. She reminds me of the Eve Actress on Passions. She almost ALWAYS had to cry but she had "I'm constipated" face all the time. 

I have to say: Shut Up, Olivia. You sacrified nothing. It was the best choice for you. but it wasn't the best choice for BLQ. Keep it to the fact that Lois betrayed the closed adoption bit, but don't sit there and make it all like we could have been extended Waltons. some people aren't meant to be mothers. and certaintly not as teens. 

Ned broke my heart. and Shut up Lois. again. I'll never defend the Q's tot he point where I say they are perfect, and they are flawed. Edward wanted Businessmen, Alan wanted Doctors, but don't sit there and think that none of them would have loved that kid. and I'm pretty damned sure Lois knew the crap AJ had to go through w/Michael because you know. close friends with the butthole who hung him on the meathook to steal his rights. 

There's a broken clock somewhere because Sonny was pretty dang good. he said what he said, he didn't yell or j'accuse just asked, got his answer, and went, i appreciate it and supported Lois. NOT the person i thought would do it (if i'm dead honest)

I'm not bothering watching the Michael/family clip (unless there's something vital i need there? lemme know. I can rage with y'all lol)

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30 minutes ago, PatsyandEddie said:

 

Emma looks gorgeous in the scene in the bridge. The dress is still a HAM but her hair / makeup was perfection. 
 

I kept wanting to take those awful sleeves off the dress. Scissors would have turned it into a beautiful sleeveless gown that flattered both her figure and her coloring.

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2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

There's a video of Willow and Drew having sex in the kids' playroom while she's married to Michael.

Yes but it goes to show that Michael was unfaithful first, and that he knocked up Sasha before Drew and Willow slept together. In the end, the judge will likely decide neither one of them is fit to be a parent and give the child hoarder full custody. 🤣 but I was impressed with how quickly Nina figured it out. 

I thought there was a continuity error when we came back from commercial break and Mac was gone with no mention of it. Then I thought maybe I imagined he was at the house lol! I would’ve liked more from that scene. Even just Michael saying ‘it wasn’t kidnapping, here’s the court order.’ And how did Diane get an emergency court order without the mother knowing about it? I know, I know, GH law. 🙄

I continue to be impressed with most of the acting in the reveal storyline. Rena really is the weakest link and that surprises me because she’s a very good actress. But Lois’ justifications are just garbage. And I could’ve smacked Olivia myself when she got all sanctimonious about convincing BL to keep the baby. Newsflash Olivia: not everyone WANTS to be a mother.  She had every right to do what she thought was best for both her and the baby. She was 16 and didn’t want to give up on her own dreams. So she gave the child up for adoption, knowing that he or she would get a wonderful life. Forcing her to keep the baby so YOU could be happy is exactly why she didn’t tell you.  And of course Sonny forgives Lois and even thanks her for giving him a relationship with his grandson all the while not telling him it was his grandson. 
 

I really do want Lois to come back to the mansion only to find her bags packed and on the front porch, with the locks changed and a note that says ‘go back to Brooklyn, you no longer live here.’

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2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Dante is entitled to all his feelings toward Brook Lynn.

I agree.  And because this is a soap and not real life, I hope that the conflict between the two of them goes on for a good long time and not just a few episodes.

9 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

I really do want Lois to come back to the mansion only to find her bags packed and on the front porch, with the locks changed 

Yes please.  

Also, I almost applauded when Olivia read Lois the riot act.  Good for her!  And Ned had a right to know as well.

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7 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

In the end, the judge will likely decide neither one of them is fit to be a parent

I want the judge to look at the two of them, and all of their various family members, say that not a single one of them are fit to be parents, and give custody to someone completely unrelated, like Stella.

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Not at yesterday's level but still a lot of good fallout from the Gio reveal. I liked Ned confronting Lois the most because she really did him dirty, and is not freeloading in his home while telling him that she had to protect Gio from his family. Ned wasn't buying any of it.

Dante to Gio: You're confused and angry. I'm confused and angry too. (Me: wow Dante, you found out that you have a son but Gio got his whole life blown apart. Your reaction is almost Lulu levels of self-absorption.)

I loved Nina figuring out that it was Michael that Sasha slept with. You go, girl. Maxie is right, telling Willow that Nina and Drew were sleeping together is too risky, she's so brainwashed she would blame Nina for seducing pure, upright Drew.

GH law, where you can get an emergency court order taking away the custody of the children who with their mother without letting her know so that she can argue her rights in front of the judge. What reason did Diane have for taking emergency custody?

6 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Sasha told Michael Jason called her to come with him so it would be "less scary for Amelia," so Jason definitely took her.

And then Jason went to pick up Michael, take him to the Nurses Ball to make his appearance and then drove him and Wylie to Carly's. Because nothing is more important for Jason than Carly's children. Something that Nina apparently understands and how she figured out that it was Michael that Sasha slept with, and before the playroom sex, or at least at the same time.

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