Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[Sake614]

1 hour ago, JMO said:

Will have to watch the full episode tonight, but just jumping on to wonder how Lucky and Liz are going to pay for their dinners at that upscale establishment.  She's on leave from her job and he may or may not have started bartending.

She’s on leave WITH pay. Cam has a full scholarship to Stanford and Jason paid for Danny to attend art school in Spain. So she’s got extra cash lying around. Or maybe Laura gave Lucky a credit card to use while he’s back lol!

color me stunned when Jason sided with Tracy against Sonny. Before he did, I literally said to the TV, ‘Sonny IS Jason's family. Always has been, always will be. There’s no way he goes against Sonny.’ As contrived as it was, it was a refreshing moment. And I loved the hug between Jason and Tracy. It’s just a shame Sonny didn’t drop dead on the Q doorstep.

way to go Joss! Screaming at Cyrus in the middle of the police station instead of letting the cops do their jobs. Good for Anna telling her she basically just blew up the case before the police could even make it. And Joss just standing there trying to understand what Anna said. 

Of course Cody lost all his money. Who didn’t see that coming the second he decided to blow all $50k on a football game? 🙄 and now Trina is suddenly all into football because he classmate/future boyfriend is the star quarterback? ‘I texted Kai. It’s not like I expect him to get back to me right away…’ but she shows up at his hospital room right away.

liz and Lucky were cute together. And he even washed his hair for the occasion 🤣

still not sold on nuEmma. The writing is piss poor and the personality shift too drastic. And when exactly did she become an expert pickpocket?

Edited Wednesday at 11:16 PM by Sake614

[absnow54]

Jason choosing Monica was very sweet, but there’s no way she’d want to be eating cookies with her great grandchildren if it meant Michael’s health proxy was being held ransom. 

[dubbel zout]

19 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

way to go Joss! Screaming at Cyrus in the middle of the police station instead of letting the cops do their jobs. Good for Anna telling her she basically just blew up the case before the police could even make it. And Joss just standing there trying to understand what Anna said. 

All of that cracked me up. Joss is SO her mother's daughter. Thinks she knows better than anyone how to handle any situation, but if something goes sideways, it's not her fault.

And speaking of Joss's mother, I was so bummed that there is a chance to get Michael into the clinic in Switzerland. I know they have to get Michael out of GH and offscreen, but I'm surprised we didn't see Sonny screaming into a phone that he'd pay for a new research building or something in order to get Michael into the clinic. And then the screaming would finally bring on the fatal heart attack we all want Sonny to have. He could have done all of this after what happened at the Q mansion.

[KittyQ]

Well, isn't Joss the police's little helper? Why on earth Anna let her view the conversation with Cyrus is beyond me. Just like Carly, Joss leaps to conclusions without any evidence. Oh, the bell stopped ringing must mean that Cyrus was stabbing Dex! (Of course we know that is true, but Joss just thinks it is). There can be any number of reasons someone stops ringing a bell - had to go to the bathroom, was shaking someone's hand, was talking with someone, decided to take a break for a few minutes, dropped the bell, etc. Joss, with her very limited knowledge legal work, thinks that just because something could have happened, it means it did happen.

Over at the Qs - since when did Monica need Wiley and Amelia to be in the house and not with their mother? And is sleeping with your nephew's wife much, much worse than all of the various cheating the Qs have done? Didn't saintly Monica cheat on Alan with Rick? Isn't Sasha carrying Michael's baby, which was conceived while he's still married to Willow? Everyone is behaving at their worst, being overly emotional and vindictive. 

Naturally Cody looses his money - he's always looking for the easy score, and those don't come around that often. He didn't even think to hedge his bet a little; bet some of the money and see how it turns out. 

[dubbel zout]

12 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

And is sleeping with your nephew's wife much, much worse than all of the various cheating the Qs have done?

That's exactly what Drew is saying. He's not wrong to point out the hypocrisy, but to justify your bad behavior by saying others have done it isn't making things better. He might as well say he's rubber and they're glue. It's just as immature.

15 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Naturally Cody looses his money - he's always looking for the easy score, and those don't come around that often.

I kind of feel sorry for Cody, but only because the show is obviously setting him up for some gigantic crash. Is anyone on the show not in some sort of crisis? I guess Gio, but a) I don't care, and b) he's in a temporary state of ignorant bliss. Soon enough he'll find out who his birth mom and dad are. (Poor Dante.)

[Cheyanne11]

So yesterday Sasha gets in Willow's face and tells her she has to leave without her kids, then today she runs to the hospital to tattle and when she finds out Willow SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED to take her kids to Nina's gets on a different high horse about how terrible it is that she's barring Carly and Sonny from seeing Michael.  Girl, make up your mind and maybe don't butt it in the first place.

[TVbitch]

I really wanted to enjoy Tracy's smack down of Sonny and Jason deciding (for once) not to obey his master, but just before that Tracy basically told Sonny to "handle" Drew mobster style. I can't just let that slide. 

[Cheyanne11]

4 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

I really wanted to enjoy Tracy's smack down of Sonny and Jason deciding (for once) not to obey his master, but just before that Tracy basically told Sonny to "handle" Drew mobster style. I can't just let that slide. 

I also didn't like her saying that Willow "wasn't emotionally stable enough" to have her kids. Like, yes, she's got a ton of issues, but the mom portion of her life she was doing ok with.  Not to mention everyone acting like Willow wouldn't allow Monica to see the kids whenever she wanted.  

But, no, let's play the vile game this show loves of barring parents from their kids.  

[Daisy]

1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

So yesterday Sasha gets in Willow's face and tells her she has to leave without her kids, then today she runs to the hospital to tattle and when she finds out Willow SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED to take her kids to Nina's gets on a different high horse about how terrible it is that she's barring Carly and Sonny from seeing Michael.  Girl, make up your mind and maybe don't butt it in the first place.

she's being Carly'ed from the womb

[ulkis]

Lucky damn it if he wanted Liz to be safe from serial killers why didn't he send her one single text during the serial killer husband years saying "hey u sure about this?"

[GHScorpiosRule]

Oh, My Lucky and Elizabeth loving HEART!!!! Such FEELS!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Those yearning looks from Lucky to Elizabeth! SIIIIIIIIGH…….

And FINALLY! Tracy gets to do some SERIOUS SMACKDOWN without Mooby getting to sneer how AJ “deserved” killing.

I fully believe that it was Jane and Steve knowing how bad things were for Leslie channeling those emotions, and it was wonderful to see from an acting standpoint. Because Jason hasn’t done JACK SHIT for Monica since Alan died.

As for the other…

I LOATHE the phrase, but POD!Emma has Resting Bitch Face, which was on FULL DISPLAY. She can go away or Show can quickly recast like they did with NuMolly, before recasting with the current one. There. I said it!

Hey, Ms. Spawn of Cujo-I’m pretty sure Anna knows who Felicia is, seeing as she’s Godmother to her daughter Maxie. MAROON. What IS IT with the idiot writers insisting that characters refer to other well known characters and the relationships, to act as if they’re strangers?

So please, take several gazillion SEATS, Mini Cujo.

Drew keeps getting worse and worse. So he’s going to commute from upstate NY to DC while Congress is in session, eh? Does he have his own plane? The IDIOCY of all this is mindnumbingly STOOPID.

I LOVED Felicia stopping Cujo from seeing the SLS! Yes I’m mean and petty.

 

Anna should have shown MiniCujo the door the minute she demanded Anna arrest Cyrus. Small consolation that she told her that her self absorbed and centered self just FUCKED things up.

STFU Sasha.

[Daisy]

36 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Because Jason hasn’t done JACK SHIT for Monica since Alan died.

i haven't forgiven him for not being at Alan's bedside when he died. 

[Artsda]

Sasha ran to hospital to tattle Willow was trying to take the kids only to find out she should have been let go.  Maybe if Sasha had let them go Tracy would have not gotten them. 

Scout is living in a hotel? So Tracy let her be taken? Scout I'm surprised didn't fight to stay with the brothers. 

Drew isn't wrong on the double standard, Jason the hitman who treated the family like scum gets to stay but not Drew?

Jason already did break Monica's heart. But wow Jason chose the Quartermaine? It's been decades.  And he GH hugged Tracy. 

Go Tracy for bringing up AJ and that Sonny killed him and Monica can't see him. We actually allowed to remember that. 

Why are Joss and Lucky better cops than Anna? Shouldn't she be out kidnapping innocent people going psycho over finding Valentine? 

Why does Jack keep doing Carly's bidding. 

Cody such an idiot. But a gambling addict doesn't use common sense. 

 

 

[Mirabelle]

I wish Tracy had seen Sonny clutching his heart. She withheld medication from her own father, whom she loved, so I'd like to see what she'd do in a similar situation with Sonny.

It's a good thing Joss is no longer planning to be a doctor because she'd be killing more patients than Cyrus if she was. Someone is going to come in with a rash and she'll immediately insist it's lupus. 

[nilyank]

In a show where characters are doing bad things over selfish and dumb things, Drew manages to do the baddest and most selfish dumb things than everyone else.

Drew has been egging on Willow and escalating things badly for everyone before they could actually talk and have conversations where compromise would be be worked out for the kids.

Also as he was talking to a bewildered Alexis, he was straight up lying right? Sure Ned and Tracy don't want Drew anywhere near the family and ELQ, no one else including Monica had kicked out Drew nor especially Scout. Drew is using Scout as an excuse that the mean Qs are picking on Drew and that Willow can step into Sam's shoes to be Scout's parent.

In happier news, Lucky and Liz are still on the case and just happening to go on a date in the middle of their investigation. Loving it 1000%.

Shut up Cody. Your idea was always dumb. I just want somebody to tell him that his cousin has a bun in the oven.

[Suicidy]

Well, the Carly’s really Carly’d everything up today.  FFS……..

[voiceover]

I haven’t watched this show in…centuries! but the Jane/Steve scene popped up in my x-feed, and by the time they embraced, I was weeping.  I imagine their love of Leslie drove the moment, and all I could think was: She’s loving this, wherever she is.

[FilmTVGeek80]

6 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I watched enough of the Alexis-Drew scene to understand that he took Scout with him because he's decided she stays with him no matter what - if the Qs are determined that he can't live there and won't just get over what he did when they've done worse, than they don't get to keep Scout. (It also sounds like he wants to use Scout to entice Willow's maternal feelings; i.e. "Willow would love to be your mommy now".) He won't even consider letting her live with Grandma Alexis temporarily either.

 

Well, that kind of makes sense given that he's her only living parent. Where he goes, she goes. And he doesn't really need to use Scout to entic anything from Willow since she already wants to be with him.

6 hours ago, JMO said:

 

I think this whole thing with Wiley and Amelia is poorly thought out on the part of the writers, and none of it makes any sense.  There were no grounds for isolating the kids from Willow.  Even if there had been, enough time has passed that she could have gone to court to get them officially back.  Until such time as they got this unlikely order overturned, nobody had a legal right to violate it, even if they were all in agreement.  The wrongly-made agreement was that Sonny and Carly would give the kids back and they would stay at Nina's.  No mention of any Quartermaines there, so the fact that it's the Quartermaines who have the kids and don't want to give them back should result in a call to the police and another visit to court.  There's no contract that says Willow has to hold access to Michael hostage until a third party gives the kids back, and no logical reason to consider this a tit-for-tat. 

This whole "Monica needs to see the kids" thing is ridiculous.  Those kids have been at the main house every day until Wiley went to DC with Willow and Drew.  While I would love to see Jason continue to soften, I don't think it should come about through cheap emotional blackmail.  

 

 

This is the same day that the kids got taken from her. Drew said he could pull some strings, but the earliest court date she could get was next week. She decided to use the proxy as leverage; she didn't want to wait. 

I don't understand why everyone is making a pilgrimage to the Qs and begging Tracy for anything. As they've all pointed out - and then done nothing about - Tracy has no legal standing or right to those kids. None of those idiots have ever been shy about calling Diane to get their way. Just do what they did to get custody from Willow in the first place - have Diane show up with a cop (and social worker, maybe) and enforce the court order. 

A tiny part of me feels conflicted about this because I have wanted Jason to pick the Qs over Sonny and Carly for years but leave it to this show to do it in the most ham-fisted, nonsensical way. Yes, Jason has softened to the Qs over the years, and he's even living there, but there was no believable effort to show that Jason would choose Monica over Sonny and Carly. We go from the beginning of the episode with him taking off as soon as Carly asks him to get the kids to, ultimately, change his mind because Tracy, of all people, guilt trips him.

2 hours ago, TVbitch said:

I really wanted to enjoy Tracy's smack down of Sonny and Jason deciding (for once) not to obey his master, but just before that Tracy basically told Sonny to "handle" Drew mobster style. I can't just let that slide. 

That was the part of the episode that genuinely had me gobsmacked. It's hard for me to give in to my instinct of "Go, Tracy" for calling Sonny out for murdering AJ when, not ten seconds before that, she was basically demanding he kill another one of Alan's kids. What has Drew done to her - other than the usual ELQ shenanigans - that caused her to hate him so much that she asked Sonny to get rid of him? And, how does it make any sense with her current "do whatever it takes to help Monica" agenda? She's begging them to keep the kids in the house because Monica is too frail to handle them being away, but Tracy thinks she can handle having yet another kid murdered? Unless we're to believe Monica disowned him because of what he did to Michael. 

58 minutes ago, nilyank said:

In a show where characters are doing bad things over selfish and dumb things, Drew manages to do the baddest and most selfish dumb things than everyone else.

Drew has been egging on Willow and escalating things badly for everyone before they could actually talk and have conversations where compromise would be be worked out for the kids.

Also as he was talking to a bewildered Alexis, he was straight up lying right? Sure Ned and Tracy don't want Drew anywhere near the family and ELQ, no one else including Monica had kicked out Drew nor especially Scout. Drew is using Scout as an excuse that the mean Qs are picking on Drew and that Willow can step into Sam's shoes to be Scout's parent.

 

Carly escalated things by taking Willow's children to punish her for cheating on her son. Drew gave Willow the advice her lawyer said was her only play. Drew didn't hold a gun to her head and make her do anything.

I don't think he lied; we don't know yet. Lots of things happen on this show off-screen. Tracy and Ned have been plotting to get him out of the family and the house. They were cackling with glee over it when they found out about Willow and Drew's affair. They said that Monica would pick Jason and Michael's side over Drew, and they could finally kick him out. 

It's one reason I don't buy Tracy's sudden desire to keep the Q kids at the house. She didn't spare a second thought about what would happen to Scout if she managed to push Drew out of the house. Now, suddenly, it's imperative to Monica's health that she always has her grandkids surrounding her.

[ByaNose]

Detective Joss Jacks at your service. Lord help us!

The writers really want us to hate Cameron Matheson and Drew Cain Quartermaine at the same time don’t they? Good lord! I think FV is also telling him to keep his scruff to look more menacing. When you have Alexis trying to tell you (nicely) to knock it off you know there are problems. Unfortunately, I might have to ffwd his scenes because it’s unbearable to watch.

The scenes that Steve Burton & Jane Elliott had must have been the ones he was talking about on his podcast. They had discussed how it felt like the old days with the Q’s in the 90’s. He was really acting to and welling up when Tracy really put everything out on the table to Jason. I was glad he told Sonny no. It looks like Tracy goes for Round 2 with Carly tomorrow. That should be could.

I can’t with new Emma Drake Scorpio. The writing is horrible. I’m not even sure I like the actress interpretation of the character either. I know in general Emma is supposed to be young and learning but I thought she’d balance out Joss more. Unfortunately, it’s not going that way. I thought Emma would the moral compass of the younger set. I know it’s only been a month or so but I don’t like her. I think FV should tell Brooklyn Rae Silzer to quit nursing school and come back as Emma. LOL!!!! 

Finally, I appreciated that Anna basically called Joss a dumb f_ck to her face. Hysterical!

[Suicidy]

34 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

Detective Joss Jacks at your service. Lord help us!

The writers really want us to hate Cameron Matheson and Drew Cain Quartermaine at the same time don’t they? Good lord! I think FV is also telling him to keep his scruff to look more menacing. When you have Alexis trying to tell you (nicely) to knock it off you know there are problems. Unfortunately, I might have to ffwd his scenes because it’s unbearable to watch.

The scenes that Steve Burton & Jane Elliott had must have been the ones he was talking about on his podcast. They had discussed how it felt like the old days with the Q’s in the 90’s. He was really acting to and welling up when Tracy really put everything out on the table to Jason. I was glad he told Sonny no. It looks like Tracy goes for Round 2 with Carly tomorrow. That should be could.

I can’t with new Emma Drake Scorpio. The writing is horrible. I’m not even sure I like the actress interpretation of the character either. I know in general Emma is supposed to be young and learning but I thought she’d balance out Joss more. Unfortunately, it’s not going that way. I thought Emma would the moral compass of the younger set. I know it’s only been a month or so but I don’t like her. I think FV should tell Brooklyn Rae Silzer to quit nursing school and come back as Emma. LOL!!!! 

Finally, I appreciated that Anna basically called Joss a dumb f_ck to her face. Hysterical!

She should never have let Joss anywhere near Cyrus.  Of course Joss couldn’t help herself.  She’s a raving entitled bitch just like her mother.  Who (of course) wanted to call a PRESS CONFERENCE and escalate things to 11.

[Grinaldi]

Not sure I buy his about face but the Jason/Tracy scene was amazing.

I have enjoyed all the Carlys yelling at Willow and Drew. I realize they are all hypocrites but Willow is dickmatized by a jackass. And while Sasha was out of line, Willow dropping the "not a mother" thing had me shouting at Sasha to punch her smug face.

My favorite is Nina having no time for Drew's smarmy bullshit. I'd love a scene where Carly and Nina call a truce just to vent to each other about how awful Drew has become.

[Bringonthedrama]

46 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Unless we're to believe Monica disowned him because of what he did to Michael. 

It's one reason I don't buy Tracy's sudden desire to keep the Q kids at the house. She didn't spare a second thought about what would happen to Scout if she managed to push Drew out of the house. Now, suddenly, it's imperative to Monica's health that she always has her grandkids surrounding her.

Tracy said Monica is devastated over Michael's injuries and "Drew's betrayal", not "Willow and Drew's affair" which made me think she disowned Drew. I don't doubt that Monica came to love Drew as a son when BM was in the role, but her attachments to Jason and Michael run much deeper. She adopted Jason when he was a child and has known that 30-something year-old Michael is her grandson since he was a baby. When she met Jason's "twin brother," he was in his 40s (or late 30s).  LC has been in a lot of scenes with SB and CD over the decades; I don't think she's been in a scene with CM's Drew since the first couple months of CM being in the role. I know that Monica got to see Scout when she was a baby while Sam was with BM's Jason-then-Drew, but I can't recall if Monica has been in a scene with Scout since then. The Monica-Scout attachment is unclear. 

I think the big difference here is that Michael's kids call the Q estate home (long-term), they have extended family and staff there who can take care of them, and in theory their dad will get better and return to the estate to be with his kids. Michael and Willow had not started divorce proceedings nor decided on custody arrangements. 

Drew is utterly unapologetic to everyone about his part in breaking up the Michael-Willow marriage because "our feelings are real" and when everyone got mad and Tracy wanted him to leave, he had a f**k you all attitude, I'm taking my kid with me - it's your (the Q Family's) fault she's suffering alone. Scout had always been theoretically her grandmother's visitor at the Q mansion, Drew is her only living parent, and unfortunately because Dante and Sam never got legally married while they were living together, Dante has zero rights to keep her with him and Jason and the two boys at the Q mansion. 

My impression is that as long as the family was nice to him and treated him with the respect he felt entitled to, Scout could continue living at the Q mansion. Before the affair was exposed, Scout told Dante, Jason and the boys that Daddy said I don't have to move to Washington. I can stay here (the mansion) and he'll go back and forth. Now that he's had a taste of Willow and Wiley being with him and Scout in Washington, he apparently doesn't care what he told Scout.

[FilmTVGeek80]

3 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Tracy said Monica is devastated over Michael's injuries and "Drew's betrayal", not "Willow and Drew's affair" which made me think she disowned Drew. I don't doubt that Monica came to love Drew as a son when BM was in the role, but her attachments to Jason and Michael run much deeper. She adopted Jason when he was a child and has known that 30-something year-old Michael is her grandson since he was a baby. When she met Jason's "twin brother," he was in his 40s (or late 30s).  LC has been in a lot of scenes with SB and CD over the decades; I don't think she's been in a scene with CM's Drew since the first couple months of CM being in the role. I know that Monica got to see Scout when she was a baby while Sam was with BM's Jason-then-Drew, but I can't recall if Monica has been in a scene with Scout since then. The Monica-Scout attachment is unclear. 

I think the big difference here is that Michael's kids call the Q estate home (long-term), they have extended family and staff there who can take care of them, and in theory their dad will get better and return to the estate to be with his kids. Michael and Willow had not started divorce proceedings nor decided on custody arrangements. 

Drew is utterly unapologetic to everyone about his part in breaking up the Michael-Willow marriage because "our feelings are real" and when everyone got mad and Tracy wanted him to leave, he had a f**k you all attitude, I'm taking my kid with me - it's your (the Q Family's) fault she's suffering alone. Scout had always been theoretically her grandmother's visitor at the Q mansion, Drew is her only living parent, and unfortunately because Dante and Sam never got legally married while they were living together, Dante has zero rights to keep her with him and Jason and the two boys at the Q mansion. 

My impression is that as long as the family was nice to him and treated him with the respect he felt entitled to, Scout could continue living at the Q mansion. Before the affair was exposed, Scout told Dante, Jason and the boys that Daddy said I don't have to move to Washington. I can stay here (the mansion) and he'll go back and forth. Now that he's had a taste of Willow and Wiley being with him and Scout in Washington, he apparently doesn't care what he told Scout.

Drew's betrayal is the affair. And, while I understand her having a more profound attachment to Jason and Michael, if she did come to love Drew as a son and just dropkicked him after one mistake, that's pretty shitty of her - especially considering her and the rest of that family's track record. 

It doesn't really matter if the Qs have the staff to take care of the kids or if Michael will eventually return to the house. Right now, he's unconscious, and there's no idea when he'll be able to function as a human, much less a parent. Willow is the kids' mother. Tracy doesn't get to steal them just because she thinks having them around 24/7 will cheer Monica up.

If you're right and Monica did disown home, then how would he stay in the house? It's not like she will say, "I'm disowning you, but you can still live here." And your impression is probably right because who wants to live in a house with people who hate you and don't respect you? It wouldn't help Scout. It's like parents who hate each other refusing to divorce because they don't want to hurt the kids. Staying together probably hurts them more. Kids pick up on that stuff. And with a family like the Qs who barely know how to keep their feelings in check the feelings of the others adults in the house towards Drew would be something she can pick up on. Sometimes you tell kids stuff and things change. The bulk of what he told her is still true. He told Alexis he's not moving to D.C. but that he'll commute there when he needs to. They're just not going to be living at the mansion.

[CeChase]

I believe Willow the twit is entitled to her childen, and Carly was wrong to send her mob lackey lawyer to steal them. Tracy has no ground here, but I am loving it anyway.  I don't care the rights and wrongs, I'm team Tracy, and what a wonderful thing to finally see Sonny lose a "it's me or her" showdown with Jason.  I hope she sends Cujo packing as well. 

Added to that, those scenes between Jane and SBU were 100% about Leslie, and I personally am grateful to have gotten that. 

Back to Cujo.  I could NOT get over how she ordered her dog, Jason, "go get those kids and give them to Willow", and he ran off with "will do".  And then she calls her other lackey, Brennan, to appear before her with orders for him too.  Honestly, it's just enraging and they better not undo those wonderful scenes with Tracy and Jason by having Jason cave to this snarling, bitch on wheels. 

Edited 18 hours ago by CeChase

[YaddaYadda]

12 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

So yesterday Sasha gets in Willow's face and tells her she has to leave without her kids, then today she runs to the hospital to tattle and when she finds out Willow SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED to take her kids to Nina's gets on a different high horse about how terrible it is that she's barring Carly and Sonny from seeing Michael.  Girl, make up your mind and maybe don't butt it in the first place.

The fetus she's carrying around is giving her personality transplant. It's called being all about the Corinthos. She's officially taking Willow's place. Looking forward to her getting into Nina's face and telling her how grateful she's not her mother.

[kitmerlot1213]

I guess I'm in the minority because I really like the new Emma and I think she'd make the better WSB recruit.  Emma has the ability to step back, look at a situation and act accordingly.  For example, she saw the vendor being scammed, stole the jerk's wallet and gave the vendor the money owed to her.  Joss would have started screaming, causing confusion and nothing would have been solved.  Sure what Emma did was illegal but she's young, she's allowed to enact a little street justice :):)  I also got the feeling Emma's taking Gio's wallet was a joking reference to their first meeting--I hope Trina gives Emma a chance and gets to know her before simply taking Joss' opinion.

Words can't express how awesome Anna's "No sweetheart, you just made it harder to catch Cyrus" to Joss was because the twit needed to hear that the police need to build cases against criminals--did Joss truly think that Anna was going to arrest Cyrus because he stopped ringing a bell?  Brennan has to be punking us that Joss is his new project.  She is as impatient and careless as Carly, that is not the making of a good detective.

I'm going to be honest here, there aren't many soap heroines I actually buy as genuinely good detectives:  Anna Devane will always be my top pick, followed by Hope Brady as a second pick. If the show wants us to actually believe Joss is a good investigator, she needs to stop jumping to conclusions and screaming at people when things don't go her way.

Edited 16 hours ago by kitmerlot1213

[absnow54]

7 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I know that Monica got to see Scout when she was a baby while Sam was with BM's Jason-then-Drew, but I can't recall if Monica has been in a scene with Scout since then. The Monica-Scout attachment is unclear.

Scout spent half her life offscreen “at Monica’s” even while Sam was alive.

Jason needs to pick a lane because doing right by Danny means remaining civil with Drew so Danny and Scout can stay together.

I get that they’re trying to honor LC, but the Scout side of things really throws a wrench into it, which is what the half assed scenes between Alexis and Drew proved. It feels like they wrote everything around that hug between Jason and Tracy and haphazardly slapped together some scenes to get them there. 

[CeChase]

4 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

Scout spent half her life offscreen “at Monica’s” even while Sam was alive.

Jason needs to pick a lane because doing right by Danny means remaining civil with Drew so Danny and Scout can stay together.

I get that they’re trying to honor LC, but the Scout side of things really throws a wrench into it, which is what the half assed scenes between Alexis and Drew proved. It feels like they wrote everything around that hug between Jason and Tracy and haphazardly slapped together some scenes to get them there. 

Yeah you're right about Scout.  I forgot about her myself, while watching the Q scenes yesterday. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

9 minutes ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

Emma has the ability to step back, look at a situation and act accordingly.  For example, she saw the vendor being scammed, stole the jerk's wallet and gave the vendor the money owed to her. 

We don't know that she was really doing a good deed; after that we learned how she was expelled from Berkley-and probably picking pockets for money to make her way to Port Charles.

As for the custody drama-Monica being "devastated" doesn't mean or equal disowning Drew. She can be disappointed in him; hurt at what his and Willow's behavior has caused, whatever. I still want to know when Diane's smug mug showed up at Nina's to take the spawn, along with Chase and the day player social worker-why she dropped them off at the Quartermaines instead of Cujo's home? I'm pretty sure the "court order" didn't say "take away from Maternal Grammie's house and deposit at Paternal Great Grammie's house" when it was served.

I'm loving Lucky and Elizabeth working together as an investigative team. My mind is fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure they did the same to try and find her rapist many moons ago. I just turn into a pile of goo whenever JJ's Lucky just "looks" at Elizabeth.

[Winston Wolfe]

3 hours ago, CeChase said:

Back to Cujo.  I could NOT get over how she ordered her dog, Jason, "go get those kids and give them to Willow", and he ran off with "will do".  And then she calls her other lackey, Brennan, to appear before her with orders for him too.  Honestly, it's just enraging and they better not undo those wonderful scenes with Tracy and Jason by having Jason cave to this snarling, bitch on wheels. 

My hope is that Tracy is being positioned as the Q Matriach, just as Stella pointed out, and just as it should be.  Seriously, who is the last character to definitively deny both Sonny AND Jasus in the same episode, if ever? Luke Spencer? Jerry Jax, maybe? It's been eons since it last happened, and it will probably be a very long time before we see that again.

I hope that the writers don't cave today and ruin the awesomeness that is Tracy Angelica Quartermaine.

[Bringonthedrama]

15 hours ago, absnow54 said:

Jason choosing Monica was very sweet, but there’s no way she’d want to be eating cookies with her great grandchildren if it meant Michael’s health proxy was being held ransom. 

It's not being "held ransom" by some enemy of Sonny's; Michael is actively being treated at the hospital for his severe injuries. Willow's condition for his parents to see Michael and be informed about his treatment is that she gets her kids back. She wants Michael to heal/get better for the kids, especially after Wiley wanted her to confirm that Daddy will be coming back to them. 

The issue here is Carly and Sonny being appalled that their life choices and actions have consequences for them. Carly wants to dismiss and disregard Willow as Michael's wife and the mother of his children while ignoring or at least glazing over the fact that Michael is severely injured for the second time in his life because she chose Sonny to be his father. Well, that's not working out for her. Sonny got a swift kick in the ego because an enemy got an explosive device into his home without anyone noticing and hurt his son instead of him. He's just lucky that his two young daughters were not there. This is how they behave in order to feel like they are good and devoted parents.

[dubbel zout]

13 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Now, suddenly, it's imperative to Monica's health that she always has her grandkids surrounding her.

If Monica is as fragile as everyone is making her out to be, should there be a bunch of kids running around making all sorts of noise?

[KerleyQ]

It's nice to know that SBu can actually still try. To be fair I think he has (most of the time) been putting more effort in this time around than he has for years (and years). But those scenes with Tracy were another level up for him. Jason finally siding with the Q's over Sonny/Carly/Michael was surprising, to say the least. I just hope that he doesn't find out about Sonny's heart episode and immediately reverse course. In my wildest dreams, between Sam's death, Michael's condition, and Monica's presumed upcoming death, Jason starts growing back towards a more human meld of Jason Morgan and Jason Q, and that he fully puts the mob in his rearview mirror and stops acting like Carly's personal enforcer. I know he'll never fully give up on Carly and Sonny, but stepping back and having some boundaries would be a nice change and maturation for the character. 

And maybe if there are some changes in the Sonny/Carly/Jason set, I can stop hating myself for enjoying the Carly/Jack chemistry. 

Just give me Liz and Lucky in scenes doing anything, and I'm in. They were so adorable and sparkly together yesterday. 

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, KerleyQ said:

And maybe if there are some changes in the Sonny/Carly/Jason set, I can stop hating myself for enjoying the Carly/Jack chemistry. 

I think we are getting teeny tiny baby steps for Jason, at least. He's kind of putting Danny first by not taking over the bidness, he's made more than one mention to Sonny of who will take over the bidness, and he (incredibly OOC) sided with Tracy instead of Sonny and Carly.

Sonny was willing to listen to Nina about Michael's kids and broker the deal with Carly, which I don't know if he'd done earlier.

Carly is really the only one who isn't changing one iota for the better. That's probably believable, as she never thinks she's wrong.

[sashabear21]

I enjoyed the Tracy and Jason scenes but honestly it's too little too late. He's put Monica and the rest of his family through the wringer for years putting Carly and Sonny above them and keeping Michael away from them.  It's pretty hollow for him to give a shit now that most of his family is gone and while Monica is still alive onscreen, we know that LC is no longer with us.  He watched his mother swallow her pride and eat all manner of bullshit sandwiches just to spend a little time with her son and grandson so Jason would need to do some real soul-searching and perhaps throw Carly into an active volcano before I'd believe his about face or even care about it.  

Is Sasha planning on moving out the Quartermaine's and into a glass house? Because damn girl, watch where you're throwing those stones! 

Joss, please stop acting like you're fit to even dry clean Olivia Benson's sensible pantsuits.  Look out, spoiled brat detective is on the case, she'll whine and stomp her feet until you confess to anything just to get her to shut up and stop screeching! Also, Dex was not a compelling character when he was alive and death hasn't made him more interesting, so honestly no one cares Joss. I'm glad Anna didn't give her a pass on her stupidity. 

Speaking of non-compelling characters and spoiled brats, Lulu just let Charlotte go! She can send you the occasional coded postcard of horseys that she's speaking French to and leave it at that.  I'm glad Tracy told Lulu that she wouldn't be funding her dumb mission to find Charlotte until she had some real leads. I wish they'd left her in the damn coma if all she's going to do is yell and whine about Charlotte. 

Nina slamming the door in Drew's face was gold! I wish all characters would greet him like this.  

 

 

[mostlylurking]

As much as I loved yesterday’s Sonny smackdown (and hopefully Carly’s today) it makes no sense.  If anything, it’s Tracy who’s now kidnapped the kids.  Call the cops and get the kids,  end of story.  I think even the inept PCPD can manage this.

Brooklyn a tiny peck between a husband and wife is hardly clutch your pearls PDA.  Calm down.

Both Kai and Brennan are in the opening credits.  I mean….is that really necessary?  

[Bringonthedrama]

4 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

I hope that the writers don't cave today and ruin the awesomeness that is Tracy Angelica Quartermaine.

Tracy was pretty awesome today with Carly! I LOVED her digs when Carly said the kids belong with their mother and she didn't think things through.

To Tracy's credit, she didn't yell until Carly had the audacity to try to guilt trip Tracy by talking about Monica's love. She got pissy that Tracy brought up what Monica has lost and been through because of her. 

Carly's talking like the burn clinic is a sure thing and Willow doesn't have the connections they do to get Michael the help he needs ... when she doesn't even know for sure that he'll survive. She's acting like every second she doesn't have access to Michael is the worst possible outcome for him. There just aren't enough eye rolls for this.

I laughed when Tracy told Carly she can't go see Monica because Yuri's guarding the door and the kids are off-limits, doing homework and enrichment activities. LOL.  Carly crying, telling Tracy she's really something else, and leaving alone in a huff was funny. Am I supposed to feel sorry for her? I don't

Chase is just the best guy and Willow doesn't deserve to have him in her life let alone have him as a friend. At least Willow now accepts that she got together with Michael because he offered her a family and accepts Chase's point that she's always been looking for somewhere to belong. 

So Chase will be the one to convince Tracy to stand down?

BLQ being so anxious that she's not pregnant yet when she admits that's it been less than six months is just another eye roll moment. And I mostly ignored the Cody-Dante chat retconning Dante and BLQ's teenage time at camp. 

I feel sorry for Alexis over her worry about Scout (and Drew's attitude).

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Bringonthedrama

[absnow54]

42 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

As much as I loved yesterday’s Sonny smackdown (and hopefully Carly’s today) it makes no sense.  If anything, it’s Tracy who’s now kidnapped the kids.  Call the cops and get the kids,  end of story.  I think even the inept PCPD can manage this.

Emergency physical custody had to be granted to somebody not an address. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

43 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

Both Kai and Brennan are in the opening credits.  I mean….is that really necessary?  

Charles Mesure (Brennan) has been in the opening credits for quite some time now. It's not new. As for Kai? The actor was hired as Trina's new love interest, so not surprised. But they waited over 5 MONTHS to show Lucky in the opening credits! I have yet to see Alexa.

[statsgirl]

Carly: "We finally have the chance to give Michael the care he needs."  Carly seems to have forgotten that Brennan said that he couldn't get Michael into the facility.

But Tracy telling Carly off was a thing of beauty. JE was having sooo much fun.

As much as I dislike Carly and Sonny, I do think that Michael would be better off having them by his bedside and talking to him. There a body of research on the effects of having people talk to you even when unconscious.

My guess is that Willow called Carly to tell her that she can see Michael. It won't mean a thing in the long run because Carly holds grudges like she hoards children, but it would be the right thing to do.

Irony:  Chase being the cop who took Willow's kids, and then telling Tracy that she needs to give them back. Someone, just get a court order FFS.

Stella:  "That's boy's got a good head on his shoulders."  Me: And will have as long as he can avoid chronic traumatic encephalopathy playing football. If he's benched, it may be the best thing that happens to him.

I'd say that nurses are the receivers rather than the quarter backs.

Could they telegraphy any more clearly that Gio is the spawn of Brook Lynn and Dante.

6 hours ago, kitmerlot1213 said:

I guess I'm in the minority because I really like the new Emma and I think she'd make the better WSB recruit.  Emma has the ability to step back, look at a situation and act accordingly.

I agree. Joss is a Carly so the show will anoint her as the very special WSB recruit but temperamentally Emma is much more suited to a grey organization like the WSB.

13 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

Emergency physical custody had to be granted to somebody not an address. 

That's Carly, who then had the kids taken to the gatehouse where they live. Tracy is the one not letting them back.

Why is everyone begging Tracy to let the kid back? She has no legal standing at all in this.

[YaddaYadda]

5 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

My guess is that Willow called Carly to tell her that she can see Michael. It won't mean a thing in the long run because Carly holds grudges like she hoards children, but it would be the right thing to do.

Oddly enough, Carly isn't even blaming Willow. She's blaming Drew and it feels like he might be on his way out.

Carly, Sonny and Nina are pissed over the whole Willow/Michael situation.

Tracy told Sonny to handle it.

Alexis is upset over Scout.

So Dante was in love with BLQ? Good grief. Are we making Gio a love child?

[statsgirl]

4 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

So Dante was in love with BLQ? Good grief. Are we making Gio a love child?

Love child in the sense that it's a colloquial expression for illegitimate.

But I cannot believe that Dante was ever really in love with Brooke Lynn. Total retcon.

[Desperado]

I realize that this whole Michael/Willow kids thing, through Tracy, is seen as an homage to Monica/Leslie Charleson, but the whole premise is ridiculous and she deserves so much better.

It was ridiculous for Carly and Sonny to take the kids away from their mother in an hour, even if she’s f*cking Drewfus. It’s so far away from what would happen IRL.

Now we’re moving to Tracy speaking and arguing for Monica (we know why, but it looks ridiculous on screen) to illegally keep her great-grandkids away from their mother AND grandparents (one of them a mob boss who just killed an FBI agent, cowering away), because Monica is ill?  If the character is that ill, get her whole family there, not just two young kids.

And although the character of Jason was born illegitimately as a Quatermaine, adopted as a baby by Monica, he’s a murderer for hire and has been for decades, so spare me the tears and hugs over her wishes.

Not buying any of this.  

[mostlylurking]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Charles Mesure (Brennan) has been in the opening credits for quite some time now. It's not new. As for Kai? The actor was hired as Trina's new love interest, so not surprised. But they waited over 5 MONTHS to show Lucky in the opening credits! I have yet to see Alexa.

I’ve been watching unsteadily for some time now, and when I do I usually don’t pay attention to the opening credits so I missed Brennan. As for Kai, he’s inoffensive enough but I’m not seeing much of a spark, with Trina or otherwise.

Lucky should have been in the opening starting on his first day and every day since, lol!

[DanaK]

2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Chase is just the best guy and Willow doesn't deserve to have him in her life let alone have him as a friend. At least Willow now accepts that she got together with Michael because he offered her a family and accepts Chase's point that she's always been looking for somewhere to belong. 

This was an interesting conversation and a needed one for the character

[JMO]

Everything about the Wiley/Amelia custody story is ridiculous and makes all of the players look foolish and incompetent.

Good for Alexis to offer a home for Scout.  There needs to be one adult in this mix, who realizes things must be done for the good of the children, and not for their own benefit.  Too bad Drew isn't there yet.

I enjoyed the easy banter between Dante and Cody before Selina Wu interrupted them.  Much less stilted dialogue than we usually get.

To me, Kai is such a lightweight that sometimes I feel like I can see right through him.  He's fine as a day player, but to have a storyline?  Gio has more presence than Kai does.

I'm enjoying Nina acting as a mother, confronting and advising Willow for her own good, analyzing Drew's intent toward her daughter.  It's a side of her I haven't seen before. In the past, she's always been too unsure of that relationship to rock the boat at all. Now, she sees the boat about to go under, and is trying to right it.  

 

[norahs99]

3 hours ago, statsgirl said:

But I cannot believe that Dante was ever really in love with Brooke Lynn. Total retcon.

It makes no sense!  I know soaps are kind of imprecise about character's ages sometimes, but Dante has always been positioned as about a decade older than Brook Lynn.  So what were he and Cody doing at a summer camp in their late 20s with teenage Brook Lynn?

[dubbel zout]

They are really trying to make Gio happen, but he doesn't do anything except annoy me.

3 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Could they telegraphy any more clearly that Gio is the spawn of Brook Lynn and Dante.

Again, poor Dante.

What exactly is wrong with Kai? If it's only a dislocated shoulder, he doesn't need to be in the hospital overnight.

LIESL LITERALLY SAVED WILLOW'S LIFE.

The Tracy/Carly scenes were amazing. I loved that Tracy pointed out that Willow would never deny Michael any treatment that might help him. I also loved that Tracy raked Carly over the coals for her treatment of Monica over the years. It was good to see Carly get a small taste of her own medicine from someone completely unimpressed and unintimidated by her.

[Daisy]

21 minutes ago, norahs99 said:

  So what were he and Cody doing at a summer camp in their late 20s with teenage Brook Lynn?

Obviously having sex LOL
(it makes me mad. Korte and Van Etten are lazy poop heads making basically making everyone connected and biologically related. Gio didn't need to be BLQ's kid, Cody didn't need to be Mac's and Sasha didn't need to be Holly & Robert's.). 

[Grinaldi]

If they weren't throwing Emma at Gio I would love a swerve that Cody is actually the father. Dante does not need that nonsense. But we're not getting another lovers to cousins story.