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5 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Did you watch?  Because she wasn't pulling a Holly, she was righting a wrong because the guy cheated a woman selling ornaments.  She took the money to pay the woman and gave the wallet back to a cop saying she found it.  

Really enjoyed Alexis/Ric today.  RH really is a silver fox and never shies away from leaning into being a jerk and he and NLG played that bickering exes thing to perfection.

JFC, Lulu, lovely to abandon Rocco on the first Christmas he's had with you in years.  You kinda suck.  I was surprised at the Charlotte cameo (or return, whatever), but I LOL'd at "I'll come get you" like she was at the movies on the other side of town.

Carly: "You're not the boss of me."

Me: "So you really are still stuck in middle school.  Everything makes sense now."

Lois's ZOINKS face at Ned talking about a first grandchild.  Girl, how have you kept this secret for 20 years?

I don't know if they can do this without making Lois a monster or Brook a moron. So if Lois told Brook her baby died she's horrendous. But if she told Brook she gave him up for adoption Brook seems idiotic for not even suspecting.

If Lulu told Charlotte sorry I can't come get you immediately it would also be sketchy.

We agree about Carly. Woo! That line was so dumb.

On 12/21/2024 at 6:24 PM, Melgaypet said:

I know Genie isn't really Jonathan's mother, but she has known him since he was, what, ten years old? Ma'am, drag him by the ear to a shower or at least a hair stylist's sink.

She did but looked like a youngin herself lol. When I watch GH clips in the 90s it's crazy how they tried to make Genie seem older with oversized sweaters but they absolutely failed.

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The girl playing Emma seems solid, if slightly old for the part. I guess she'd work as a contemporary of Nicholas Chavez and probably William Lipton. It is hilarious the lengths they will go to to avoid ever pairing Trina with anyone white again, though. Gio gets a few more unexpectedly well-liked scenes with her and boom! New white girl hits the scene!

I like Gio and I have nothing against NuEmma so far (Brooklyn Silzer was adorable but could not handle dramatic acting as an adult, a recast was inevitable) but I don't care about them together. You're not gonna put over a very new guy like Gio and an all-new recast that easily. It just feels like something to cement him (and keep him away from Trina), and I'd rather see both parties tested around with others as the new girl seems promising. I also said years ago Emma should be a secret vixen/antiheroine - no one would expect that of her - so I hope this edge isn't all Robin Hood good deeds.

Alexa has really brought the spunk back to Lulu, without the hardness that JMB had to go with it. No, I don't love her relentless quest to retrieve her mutant hellspawn but the scenes with her breaking into Wyndemere, etc. really had spark and good chemistry with DZ.

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3 hours ago, jsbt said:

The girl playing Emma seems solid, if slightly old for the part. I guess she'd work as a contemporary of Nicholas Chavez and probably William Lipton. It is hilarious the lengths they will go to to avoid ever pairing Trina with anyone white again, though. Gio gets a few more unexpectedly well-liked scenes with her and boom! New white girl hits the scene!

I like Gio and I have nothing against NuEmma so far (Brooklyn Silzer was adorable but could not handle dramatic acting as an adult, a recast was inevitable) but I don't care about them together. You're not gonna put over a very new guy like Gio and an all-new recast that easily. It just feels like something to cement him (and keep him away from Trina), and I'd rather see both parties tested around with others as the new girl seems promising. I also said years ago Emma should be a secret vixen/antiheroine - no one would expect that of her - so I hope this edge isn't all Robin Hood good deeds.

Alexa has really brought the spunk back to Lulu, without the hardness that JMB had to go with it. No, I don't love her relentless quest to retrieve her mutant hellspawn but the scenes with her breaking into Wyndemere, etc. really had spark and good chemistry with DZ.

It's not just Trina.  Curtis has never had a white love interest even though he had chem with Sam and a lot of chem with Cynthia's Nina.  Portia and Jordan the same.  TJ and Molly originated way back in the day, and they're split up now anyway.  I don't know what their reason is but they don't seem to want it.  I always wanted Nina and Curtis to get together so I've noticed it. 

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If they wanted to bring Emma back, I'm glad it's a recast, because the other one was not very good. Glad she found her passion, though, with nursing and all.

NuEmma does look a whole lot like Finola.

I'm under the impression that Brooklyn has no idea that Gio might be her son. And if she does, then her listening to him go on about how much he misses his mother because she died, is really cruel. Not that telling him that she is his mother would make things better for him.

In any case, this storyline is impressively stupid, even for this show.

So Rocco loses Sam who was his surrogate mother. He gets his mother back for Christmas, but his mother then takes off on him to places unknown after swearing him to secrecy. Merry Christmas, Rocco!! 

As much as the adults talk about not splitting up Danny, Rocco and Scout, all three are spending Christmas in different places.

I felt really sorry for Danny when he was standing there outside wondering where his mother was.

Carly talking about Drew's smugness like smug isn't her first, middle and last name.

I love Brennan. Please show, don't Carlify him.

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11 hours ago, Mirabelle said:

I'm also seeing that she's studying to be a nurse so it doesn't look like acting professionally as an adult was ever a long term ambition for her. 

GH is likely paying for her education, so good for her!

8 hours ago, ulkis said:

I don't know if they can do this without making Lois a monster or Brook a moron. So if Lois told Brook her baby died she's horrendous. But if she told Brook she gave him up for adoption Brook seems idiotic for not even suspecting.

it's all so stupid. This is why you have to be careful when you retcon.

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Love Laura getting her kids back but her being so happy to be with her “two” kids pinged hard. Poor Nik. 
 

I would mind less about Lulu abandoning Rocco on Christmas for Charlotte if she told him she was afraid Valentine might move them at any minute. 
 

But the way it played it just felt like “see ya less important kid”. 
 

Also if Lucky, Liz, Lulu, Dante and Rocco had felt it was important to support Laura at the tree lighting shouldn’t Kevin too?  

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10 hours ago, jsbt said:

(Brooklyn Silzer was adorable but could not handle dramatic acting as an adult, a recast was inevitable)

Oh, I agree with this. Even in her first appearance as a teenager, she was very wooden, but not everyone can be a Kimberly McCullough, Jonathan Jackson, or Amber Tamblyn. My issue is with her introduction and lacking Emma's...essence, for the lack of a better word, for me.

And I'd rather they found someone who looked more like Kimberly/Robin, than dishrag Anna.

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1 hour ago, bybrandy said:

Also if Lucky, Liz, Lulu, Dante and Rocco had felt it was important to support Laura at the tree lighting shouldn’t Kevin too?  

Kevin is probably working day and night trying to deal with all the Port Charles citizens with weird psychological problems. This is a town that needs more than one psychiatrist. 

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2 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

This is a town that needs more than one psychiatrist. 

Why isn't there one? We need some outright bad people, and an unethical therapist would be a gold mine of drama. (It's not as if any medical professional cares about HIPAA unless the plot demands it.) Carlo Rota popping in every so often to growl about his diamonds doesn't cut it.

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6 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I'm under the impression that Brooklyn has no idea that Gio might be her son. And if she does, then her listening to him go on about how much he misses his mother because she died, is really cruel. Not that telling him that she is his mother would make things better for him.

In any case, this storyline is impressively stupid, even for this show.

The timing at least is insanely stupid. There is so much going on with Lulu awake, Lucky back, mysterious deaths at GH, newfound Scorpios, double adultery at the Q mansion - all stories that could use some layers and longer scenes. 

Instead we get yet another retcon shoehorned in. I'd ask why but we all know why. They want to keep Gio and the most boring couple in daytime needs some drama that doesn't require them to actually do anything dramatic. 

Eta: I'm truly glad that GH is pretty watchable right now. If Gio is the price, it isn't the worst thing this show has ever done. 

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