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Culture Check: How can we discuss a character's or actor's appearance without objectifying them? How can we express likes or dislikes and still respect an individual's humanity or be mindful that a character represents a person someone else might relate to or identify with?

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18 minutes ago, sashabear21 said:

Whatever transportation Sonny is using to leave the hospital, I hope to Odin that it's not a limo and that he's not offering Carly a ride home. 

She's probably already got the legal document for Sonny to sign away his rights to Donna in her back pocket.  Just waiting for a back seat.

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16 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I am glad that Willow didn’t cower and cry in front of Joss. There was a similar scene years ago when Lulu tore Liz apart in the middle of the hospital for cheating on Lucky with Nikolas. I’ll admit back then I kind of cheered because Liz was wrong and I detested her at the time. But, I watched those scenes again recently and it went on too long and while Liz was wrong, I thought it would have made more sense for Liz not just stand there crying, either leave or at least call Lulu out on her hypocrisy once. So, I was glad Willow’s reaction was different. While I also thought there was too much name calling in the Lulu/Liz scene, I wish Willow had been harsher with Joss. So, I’m glad Nina’s going to show up tomorrow. I don’t think she’ll have any problem calling Joss the insufferable heifer that she is. 

 

I was just about to post this [YT showed this clip] and I was like. this screams of Lulu tearing Liz a major new one at the nursing station and Liz just standing there trying not to cry and all "don't do this here."  the Clip didn't show the start of the argument or confrontation, but basically Joss being all "yeah I was into Dex before I left Cam but i wasn't married."

No. You weren't but you still cheated. Joss. . You devastated your boyfriend who was your best friend basically since childhood. You didn't think about everything he gave you including pushing aside his feelings constantly - as in his anger that Jason might have killed his stepfather (and just being a murderer in general), about how he felt about the entire revenge porn thing. You even rubbed it in his face when he found out and basically threatened his life when Cam didn't really care if it needed to be secret or not.  (I honestly don't know if Willow was supportive of Joss during this time but i reckon she wasn't ringing the Shame, Shame, Shame bell either). 

Like this is what ultimately bothers me. Willow was 31 flavours of wrong in what she did. She had an emotional affair with Drew for months. She actively kissed him twice. She did screw Drew. but a little awareness from joss even if she were mad which she has the right to be would have gone a lot way.

And Show. The North Will Always Remember the fact that Michael also cheated. ALSO. CHEATED.  and has a baby [groan] out of it on the way. so stop saintifying him. 



 

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Daisy

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I am going to start this off with - Laura Wright is always soo good with these scenes. CamMat - needs to watch some episodes of Star Trek DS9 when Jadzia Dax talks about why she puts her hands behind her back because she doesn't want to talk with her hands). i didn't notice this until people brought it up here. but the constant reaching out  and pulling them back to his chest and then reaching out is like... are you trying to churn butter or something? stahp it. 

But yeah Carly. I get it. it's your kid and you are pissed that he got screwed over by Drew. but Man.the lack of self awareness or "well it's fine that I did it-ness" is so mindblowingly ignored. and i mean i get it and I know most times you don't really think about your bad decisions but hoo boy  it's one of those times i wish Leslie Charleston was healthy because this needed a big dose of Monica "let me bring you back down to earth" ness. (In my dreams because i know they neutered monica so much)

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GHScorpiosRule

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1 minute ago, Daisy said:

I am going to start this off with - Laura Wright is always soo good with these scenes

While I agree that Laura is really good with grief, aside from a couple of them, Cujo's facial expression, or specifically, her eyes, had a calculating 'can you do this?' when Diane gleefully told her about how to take the spawns away from Nina/Willow. That same expression lasted throughout the episode for me.

For me? Genie Francis does grief, angry/raging Grief so much better. I think that's an unpopular opinion though. I just remember her hissing "MURDERER!" at Mooby, with Jaysus in the morgue, when looking over Lucky's "dead" body back when JJ left the show.

That she's even friends with him again is another rant I've already vented my spleen over.

 

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Bringonthedrama

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42 minutes ago, Daisy said:

, but basically Joss being all "yeah I was into Dex before I left Cam but i wasn't married."

No. You weren't but you still cheated. Joss. . You devastated your boyfriend who was your best friend basically since childhood.  

I'm legit shocked that Willow knows about Joss cheating on Cam. I thought only Joss, Dex and Cam knew this for sure because Joss never even acknowledged/admitted it to Trina. Spencer strongly suspected. Did I miss a scene where Joss confided in Michael/Michael and Willow? She was never close to Willow to admit to her in a little sister confiding in big sister type of way. 

What both of these women did was awful, but in terms of "big life consequences" Willow's actions - and Michael's with Sasha - are definitely worse. Neither one was thinking of their children. They got together in the first place because she never grieved her child/was unhealthily attached to Wiley and he wanted to keep Wiley away from Nelle. He always had a thing for Willow anyway (from before she and Chase were a couple) and dangled permanent motherhood of Wiley in her face ... so here we are. I never believed Willow was genuinely in love with Michael in the first place.  She was infatuated with him for offering her Wiley and giving her a bigger family. You can't really build a marriage on mutual attachment to a child.  

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Cheyanne11

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1 hour ago, Daisy said:

And Show. The North Will Always Remember the fact that Michael also cheated. ALSO. CHEATED.  and has a baby [groan] out of it on the way. so stop saintifying him. 

Right now no one outside of Sasha and Jason know this, though, so Joss and Carly thinking Michael is an innocent who got cheated on makes sense.  I do hope somehow Willow finds out sooner rather than later so she can use that knowledge to fight the Carlys.

Also, take heed, Sasha, of said Carlys and their baby bloodlust. 

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Daisy

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1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I never believed Willow was genuinely in love with Michael in the first place.  She was infatuated with him for offering her Wiley and giving her a bigger family. You can't really build a marriage on mutual attachment to a child

I've been screaming this. for years. I saw the clip where Michael is all "Willow changes who she is to survive." and I get what he meant, but it still made me want to punch his face. but I need these freaking people to remember she was in a CULT. that's her heritage. They only got together because they needed to save Wiley and they [like BLQ & Chase] got all swept up in "oooh baby fever" and thought that meant they loved each other. He was lusty over her but i don't think it was ever really there for Willow not the way it should have been. 

and i honestly feel the reason why BLQ and Chase are together are because those two actors wanna be Amish. that's it. 

 

1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Right now no one outside of Sasha and Jason know this, though, so Joss and Carly thinking Michael is an innocent who got cheated on makes sense.  I do hope somehow Willow finds out sooner rather than later so she can use that knowledge to fight the Carlys.

Also, take heed, Sasha, of said Carlys and their baby bloodlust. 

Oh i know. but that's my hope. like i know their friendship is over now but when Michael screwed Sasha they were still whatever besties count for on this show. His poo stinks to high heaven too. 

lol honestly. when Sasha was all like "I don't want my Baby all Q'ified" i'm like listen. that's not the family you should be worrying about. Or even the Corithinos-ification it's Carly and her need to control every baby this side of the Mason-Dixon. 

 

15 minutes ago, CeChase said:

I fear Nina is gonna be the one who figures out Michael is the father of Sasha's baby, and she will feel compelled to use that in the custody battle, and it will destroy her relationship with Sasha.  The writers would love that.  To me, Willow ain't worth all this trouble. 

i hope not but i know this show. they've gotta screw Nina over somehow. 

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13 minutes ago, CeChase said:

I fear Nina is gonna be the one who figures out Michael is the father of Sasha's baby, and she will feel compelled to use that in the custody battle, and it will destroy her relationship with Sasha.  The writers would love that.  To me, Willow ain't worth all this trouble. 

Based on how this story is playing out, Nina couldn’t care less about Willow. In fact, Willow has been nothing but a nuisance to her. Nina’s objective is maintaining access to her grandchildren.

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KerleyQ

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3 hours ago, sashabear21 said:

Carly with all her money and all her marriages really only has the power to take children away from their parents. Yes Willow is gross and banged Drew but that doesn't mean she's a bad mother to Whylie and the other one. I mean it's not like she's putting them in danger by marrying into the mob or anything! 

Yeah, it would seem like Michael's current condition would be proof that Carly has a history of making shitty dangerous decisions for her children that have life-long repercussions. I wonder if Willow will have the guts to make that accusation in court. 

It would be even better if Willow somehow finds out about Sasha's pregnancy and Michael's agreement to keep it quiet that he's the father, to protect the child from growing up as part of his family. 

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Between Kristina wanting Justice for Adela/Irene, Joss wanting Justice for Dex, and both being angry over Michael, I wonder if they're going to form a little Vengeance Club where they get together weekly to root support each other. Sort of like Weight Watchers but with more screaming confrontations and accusations of selfishness and flaring nostrils.

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FilmTVGeek80

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1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Right now no one outside of Sasha and Jason know this, though, so Joss and Carly thinking Michael is an innocent who got cheated on makes sense.  I do hope somehow Willow finds out sooner rather than later so she can use that knowledge to fight the Carlys.

Also, take heed, Sasha, of said Carlys and their baby bloodlust. 

It wouldn't matter to Joss and Carly even if they knew Michael cheated, too. To them, Willow would be the Queen Skank from skankville and Michael the poor lamb who did nothing to deserve such betrayal.

Sasha definitely better watch her back. I'm not sure it would cross her mind just how much Carly could turn on her because she and Carly are friends, but she should think again. I don't think Carly's necessarily a sociopath, but the only people she wouldn't turn against are Jason or her kids. Everyone else she can turn on like that. Look at what she did to Lulu back in the day. She and Lulu used to be thick as thieves then she turned on her and not even because of something Lulu did. Carly blamed Dante for sending Michael to prison and when Lulu disagreed, Carly thought that was justification to ruin Lulu's life. And Lulu was family. I think she'd turn against Sasha just because Sasha asked Michael to stay out of their kid's life. It wouldn't matter to her that Michael agreed. She'd accuse Sasha of manipulating poor trusting amazing Michael.

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GHScorpiosRule

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35 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I think she'd turn against Sasha just because Sasha asked Michael to stay out of their kid's life. It wouldn't matter to her that Michael agreed. She'd accuse Sasha of manipulating poor trusting amazing Michael.

Yup. Just as she railed against Elizabeth when Cujo learned that Jake was Jaysus' kid; then went howling like a banshee to Jaysus. And I loved him telling her to STFU (actual quote was "You SHUT UP about Elizabeth!" I believe) and it was GLORIOUS. And also because here was someone who actually spawned Jaysus' child-something she's been wanting to do and pretended he did for the SLS. She always taunted Robin that due to her HIV status, she would NEVER be able to "give" Jason a baby...ooh, yeah, that also was a GLORIOUS scene when Robin hauled back and Bitch Slapped her.

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Bringonthedrama

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1 hour ago, Daisy said:

 They only got together because they needed to save Wiley and they [like BLQ & Chase] got all swept up in "oooh baby fever" and thought that meant they loved each other

The one thing that I thought sounded like absolute truth from Joss today was her line that Michael saved you from a life without Wiley.  The whole Michael-Willow relationship was about that kid.

The one thing that I thought sounded like absolute truth from Drew today was his line to Carly about her history with AJ and Sonny - that she placed Michael in Sonny's dangerous life for her own wants/needs, not for Michael's sake.

There aren't enough eye rolls for Willow literally running into Drew's arms crying for help that "they took my kids!"

KSt, LH and MW all look really beautiful in this episode. Good to see Lucy after LH's terrible loss. 

I guess Isaiah and Lucas save Michael's life but he's in an indefinite coma between the burns and the digitalis injection?

The look on Carly's face was pretty funny when Willow declared herself Michael's wife and decision maker regarding his care. (Because of Drew's advice.)

Only Sonny would declare doing right/we've raised great kids when one of them is dead from a car bomb and the eldest is critically injured for a second time. In a game of least amount of self-awareness between Sonny, Carly, and Drew, I honestly don't know who wins. 


 

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 Angel of Death Cyrus certainly perked up his ears when he heard that Michael is in the ICU. It's much to hope that he's successful. Sigh.

Good Level one hospitals have a pain medication specialist, it's not up to the Chief of Staff.

Joss to Willow and Nina:  `You just cannot stand to be called out on your crap, both of you.``  Pot, meet kettle.

Also too much to hope that Joss will get into danger checking into Dex`s death.

I'm no fan of Willow or Drew but good for them using the medical proxy as a sword.

I don`t get Ava`s problem. She has money of her own. Yes, carrying two buildings is hard but I`m sure that the banks will give her a loan and she can offset the costs with her profits.

The way the courts make rulings without telling the other party that it`s even before the court is ridiculous. How can Diane get a court order in 5 minutes but it`s going to take till next week for Willow to get a hearing? How can the Cassadine estate take money out of Ava's personal bank account without telling her?

4 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Oh, wait. You were serious? When has he ever been "the good guy"?

The show won't stop telling me how wonderful he is. Even Sasha with Jason. And he's not even dead yet.

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7 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

 Angel of Death Cyrus certainly perked up his ears when he heard that Michael is in the ICU. It's much to hope that he's successful. Sigh.

I still think the reason Cyrus killed Sam was to clear the way for Lulu, and the reason he killed Dex was because he could place him on Sam's floor.

But he is a disappointing failure. The one person he should manage to kill and the hospital staff is going to save him. You suck, Cyrus! 

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dubbel zout

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I amused myself by thinking that the nurse is masked and gowned because it's actually Katelyn MacMullen, not some random day player, as an easy way to meet her minimum. Hee.

7 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Also too much to hope that Joss will get into danger checking into Dex`s death.

Okay, Girl Detective. You find out what the PCPD can't. I guess Chase does have his hands full at the moment, and Dante still isn't back in PC.

15 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I'm no fan of Willow or Drew but good for them using the medical proxy as a sword.

Same. Drew was right when he said Willow wasn't dealing with Michael anymore. Carly is not going to go quietly into the night, and Sonny will back her.

LOL at Cyrus using his mouth to take off the needle cap.

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Daisy

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22 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Joss to Willow and Nina:  `You just cannot stand to be called out on your crap, both of you.``  Pot, meet kettle.

 

I just saw that. and Joss going "you're lying liars who lie." and I am like HAVE YOU MET YOUR MOTHER?!?!. like i get it it's a soap. they're ALL hypocritical but my brothers and sisters in all that is holy. people do not have the daughter of the woman who lies at a drop of a hat to get what she wants calling out Nina and Willow for like drop of water in a bucket amonut of lies they've told. SERIOUSLY. 

 

50 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

The look on Carly's face was pretty funny when Willow declared herself Michael's wife and decision maker regarding his care. (Because of Drew's advice.)

 

oh i hope this makes it on YT. 
Honestly i've said it. i don't really have a massive issue with Drew [more how CamMat plays him] and I don't really care one way or the other about Willow AND Drew (only that it's bring messy soapy drama and i'm here for it) but if they can make Carly lose (evne if it's for a second) I'll ALWAYS root for that. 

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Cheyanne11

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32 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Joss to Willow and Nina:  `You just cannot stand to be called out on your crap, both of you.``  Pot, meet kettle.

Yes, Carly Jr., do go on how Nina 'cannot stand' to be called out when the show went a literal year having you and every other Carly lined up like it was a free buffet to berate her and she stood there and took it.  

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From Thursday's ep: Martin explains to Nina that Willow going to DC with Wiley to "conduct an extramarital affair" -

I expected one of them to say, "As one does..." because there are extremely few people in this town (that we know) who haven't cheated in some way, on someone. 

Joss really is sanctimonious. I also kept waiting for Willow or Drew to respond when Joss or Carly said that they should be ashamed for screwing while Michael was burning "It isn't like we knew that was happening!" 

How is it that Diane can take the kids "home"? Willow is still the parent, so exactly who is going to be responsible for them while Michael is incapacitated. Did she get some kind of legal order on such short notice? 

Will Willow use her Health Care POA  for good or eeeevvvilll? If enough of her buttons are pushed, she might decide to choose a DNR for Michael. She'd better be prepared to leave town, though, because Michael is just that beloved. :-P

Sonny and Jason must live in a very special utopia, where a guy can kill a Federal agent in cold blood with no repercussions and beat a police officer with no repercussions, but still can't imagine why anyone would do them any harm.

Why don't Carly and Sonny burst into flames when they go into the chapel? The most self-aware thing Carly said when "praying" is that she only prays when she needs something. Then, instead of being humble, she says that she really needs something now. All I can say is, the Almighty really has a lot of patience with this one - more than I (or possibly any mortal) would have.

 

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FilmTVGeek80

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2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Same. Drew was right when he said Willow wasn't dealing with Michael anymore. Carly is not going to go quietly into the night, and Sonny will back her.

I agree he was right. And I don't know why Nina was looking at him as if he was evil incarnate for suggesting it. I get that she has her issues with him, but Nina knows good and well that Marty - Willow's ATTORNEY - suggested the same damn thing. While Nina was taken aback by it when Marty said it, she did seem to realize it might be Willow's only play. Marty specifically said that Willow needed to know the power she had, and Nina noted that Willow would only do it if she had no other choice. I figured when Nina told Willow about Carly taking the kids she would tell her what Marty suggested. Instead, Nina tells her she has no options and then gives Drew death glares when he brings up using the medical proxy. I know that Nina is probably paying for Martin's services, but he is ostensibly Willow's attorney about custody of her kids. It's not up to Nina to decide what advice from her attorney she's going to tell Willow and what she's going to keep to herself. Nina has been the one all along putting the fear of God into Willow about what Michael and his two families are capable of and how dirty they would fight. She had no problem when Martin suggested Willow file for temporary custody two seconds after Michael got all crispy, but this medical proxy card is suddenly a step too far.

As much as I like Nina, I do think she's a bit of a hypocrite in this situation. She complains all the time about Drew manipulating Willow, but she does the same thing - just through different means.

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

oh i hope this makes it on YT. 
Honestly i've said it. i don't really have a massive issue with Drew [more how CamMat plays him] and I don't really care one way or the other about Willow AND Drew (only that it's bring messy soapy drama and i'm here for it) but if they can make Carly lose (evne if it's for a second) I'll ALWAYS root for that. 

Me, too. I love how in the previews Carly's all "you don't want to go down this road." I would love for Willow to respond "Oh, like the road of you taking my kids from me as punishment for cheating on your son. Suck it, bitch."

I was really surprised by how the scenes between Drew and Carly played out. Yesterday when I thought about how it would go, I would have bet good money that Sonny or Jason would rescue her and either threaten to beat up Drew or kill him. I was shocked, instead, that they let Drew get in the last word. That almost never happens when someone goes up against her. 

I think my eyes almost rolled across the street when Carly, with a straight face, asked how they could have possibly predicted something like this would happen. This after discussing that this isn't the first time Michael has been hurt because of Sonny's business. And, of course, they pat themselves on the back on how they did such a swell job with their kids. It doesn't even occur to Carly to think "Gee, my young daughter is at Sonny's all the time. I wonder if something like this can happen to her."

Shut up, Joss. Shut up times infinity. You know nothing about Chase and Willow's relationship. She didn't fall in love with him because he rescued her from Shiloh. I think Sam and Jason played a bigger part in it than he did. And they were together before that. Also, Willow is the one saved Michael from a life without Wiley. Also, why was she going on about how Nina likes to present herself as sweetness and light. When has Nina ever tried to present herself like that?

Also shut up some more with the way she was questioning Felicia. She wasn't mean or anything, but she was acting like she was some seasoned veteran detective. "Even a small detail matters in a case like this." I think Felicia, the former private eye, doesn't need to be schooled by girl!detective.

Uh oh, looks like Carly might have one more thing to throw in Sasha's face when she inevitably turns on her. I can see Carly blaming Sasha because Jason left to take her home, which gave Cyrus an opportunity to poison Michael. 

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51 minutes ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

I think my eyes almost rolled across the street when Carly, with a straight face, asked how they could have possibly predicted something like this would happen. This after discussing that this isn't the first time Michael has been hurt because of Sonny's business.

I had to laugh at this. Carly is probably thinking there was no way to predict Sonny's fireplace would explode (or however the fire started) and Michael would be burned. I also laughed when Sonny solemnly said, "That was meant for me." Yeah, no shit, Sherlock.

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I've just realized that I hate/despise/am indifferent to most of the characters on this show right now. The only ones I'm happy to see when they appear on screen are Ava, Ric, Martin, and Laura. This has never happened before. Even when the unholy trinity were at their worst, there were other stories of interest to me that kept me watching. Right now, I'm not sure if there's anything worth right now.

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1 hour ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

And I don't know why Nina was looking at him as if he was evil incarnate for suggesting it.

I had the impression that Nina was only pretending to act shocked that Drew was suggesting a plan of attack that her lawyer already told her about, basically pretending she didn’t already know that was a good line of attack. Maybe she figured in the moment that Willow would be more amenable to the plan if it came  from Drew rather than her

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I'm genuinely curious as to whether they will let Willow have a win with the medical proxy or if she's going to roll over for Carly or be forced to give it up by Diane because the show can never let anyone win against Carly.

2 hours ago, JMO said:

Too bad Willow didn't have Cyrus on her list of people who couldn't see Michael. 

Portia already banned him from the hospital so he had to sneak in wearing a mask which is why he is the only one wearing a mask in the burn victim's room. <eyeroll>

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55 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

mask which is why he is the only one wearing a mask in the burn victim's room. <eyeroll>

To be fair, Portia was masked and gloved when she came in to give Michael more pain meds. She made Jason leave the room. She was also wearing a cap on her hair so she wouldn’t contaminate Michael’s burns. Too bad Jason couldn’t do the same.

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2 hours ago, DanaK said:

I had the impression that Nina was only pretending to act shocked that Drew was suggesting a plan of attack that her lawyer already told her about, basically pretending she didn’t already know that was a good line of attack. Maybe she figured in the moment that Willow would be more amenable to the plan if it came  from Drew rather than her

The way CW played the scene, it didn't seem like play-acting on Nina's part. Willow has followed Nina's suggestions regarding custody before, so I don't know why she'd think Willow wouldn't consider it if it came from her. Willow starts panicking after Drew says he can pull strings, but she'd have to wait a week for the hearing. Nina says she has no other choice. At that point, Willow was clearly open to any suggestion. Why tell her there was no choice but to wait and then assume Drew, not only knows about the medical proxy, but would suggest Willow use it?

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1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

I absolutely resent that they seem to have completely sidelined Lucky and Elizabeth in order to have Joss be the one to solve the mystery of who killed Dex with Brennan watching her and guiding her behind the scenes. 

I can’t believe they had it set up where Liz and Cyrus were both banned from GH at the same time, and did nothing with it. At least have Elizabeth in the building for some extraneous reason during today’s episode. What a waste. 

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44 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Why is Portia talking to everyone about Michael's condition. She must have looked at medical proxy.

I have no love for Portia but it's not unusual to talk to the family about the patient's condition. I have a medical PoA but it's filed somewhere in my filing cabinet at home. If my family showed up at the hospital, the doctor would assume that they would be the ones to make the decisions if I couldn't.

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Winston Wolfe

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11 hours ago, Daisy said:

I am going to start this off with - Laura Wright is always soo good with these scenes. CamMat - needs to watch some episodes of Star Trek DS9 when Jadzia Dax talks about why she puts her hands behind her back because she doesn't want to talk with her hands). i didn't notice this until people brought it up here. but the constant reaching out  and pulling them back to his chest and then reaching out is like... are you trying to churn butter or something? stahp it. 

@Daisy - you're one of the reasons I love you guys so much! Many of us like the same things outside of GH - you're a DS9 fan. @Suicidy and I can chat about Steranko's S.H.I.E.L.D. Truly awesome! Btw, when Nicole DeBoer took over the Dax role, she continued the hands-behind-the-back affect after studying Terry Farrell's version of the character...

I have to admit, seeing CamMat in such pain around losing his home reminds me that he's an actor doing a job - he may find Drewfus as repugnant as the rest of us. Although I've a belief that some actors mine parts of their own psyche to play certain roles - Gandolfini did it with Tony Soprano and it took a toll on him.

Not sure I like how Brennan is "leaving Breadcrumbs" for Joss. Cyrus is a very dangerous man and Joss is a college student. Seems to me the play would have been to tip Jaysus off and let him off Cyrus. Much more efficient, IMO, and Carly isn't going to be thrilled if/when she learns Jack put Joss in harm's way.

 

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Desperado

Desperado

4 hours ago, JMO said:

It was nice having thirty seconds of the Scorpio women together, and I liked the touching conversation between Felicia and Maxie.

Yes, and when Felicia was telling Maxie how much patient in the hospital regretted not saying “I love you” enough, I couldn’t help but think of KW losing her son and maybe thinking the same.

I don’t know if she asked for a role like this, but having scenes about Kristina losing her baby, Sam dying, (did she have scenes w/Joss after Dex’ death?), now Michael… It seems like a lot.

Heck, it’s a lot for me and I’m a wuss who mutes scenes constantly.

I need more fun in the afternoon, damn it.

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ByaNose

ByaNose

5 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I absolutely resent that they seem to have completely sidelined Lucky and Elizabeth in order to have Joss be the one to solve the mystery of who killed Dex with Brennan watching her and guiding her behind the scenes. 

And they had Joss yelling at Willow for two days straight. Carlys must Carly on.

It has been a minute that Lucky has been on. He really hasn’t done much since he’s been back. I guess they hope him bartending at Charlie’s will let him mingle with other cast members but he’s had (I think) one or two scenes with Aidan. Personally, I think they are trying to keep them apart because they know the actor who plays Aidan is way too old and looks it especially when he’s with JJ and RH. 

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sacrebleu

sacrebleu

I'm glad Willow is leveraging her medical proxy in this situation, but it was weird ( and sloppy writing) to have Drew suggest it. 

Martin told Nina about the medical proxy before Willow and Drew returned from DC. How would Drew have known the proxy existed? Someone may assume that as Willow and Michael are still married, Willow has authority to make care decisions for Michael, but the proxy is a specific legal thing.

And Willow better insist that Carly relinquish all custodial claims on the kids before allowing her access to Michael. Carly regularly used Michael as a bargaining chip, so this would really be perfect karma.

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CeChase

CeChase

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Every word Drew said to Carly about how Michael ended up in the burn unit was factual.  There's no argument to be had about that.  But man, that was quite a scene, and even tho he was telling the truth, I found him very repugnant.  An older man telling his older ex how much better his new age inappropriate chick is.  I felt like he was about to spit out "and her V is much tighter too".  Like that was the vibe to me.  I guess I have to give Cam props, because he played that the way it plays out in real life, and it's not pretty at all.  I really hope he wasn't mining the dark  parts of his psych as someone above said.  But I always wonder about that too.  Especially with a man. 

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rur

rur

About the accuracy of Michaels burns and wearing masks: 

Quite a number of years ago, my brother was badly burned in a car accident and spent more than a month in a burn unit. We live in different states, but I happened to be in town for something else when it happened and got to the hospital no more than a day later. His clothing had caught on fire*, but he had no burns on his face. The burn unit had specific hours of visitation, in part because they didn't want visitors around in eye- or earshot when they were actually dealing with the burns, but we were never asked or told to wear masks. Although he was awake and carrying on conversations, he was heavily drugged and has no memory of his first weeks in the hospital. So, so far, most of what's happening on GH squares with my experience. 

But I imagine if Michael does gain consciousness (and stays that way) before he's shipped to the Offscreen Facility he'll be able to run Aurora from his bed.

*FWIW -- Your mothers were right: The last thing my brother remembers was being in the emergency room -- before being given painkillers -- when they were cutting off his clothes. He heard the nurse say, "Oh -- he isn't wearing any underwear."

Also -- he survived and is fine today. He does, however always wear long sleeved shirts and long pants, not because he wants to hide scars, but because of the delicate condition of his skin. 

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dubbel zout

dubbel zout

13 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

Not sure I like how Brennan is "leaving Breadcrumbs" for Joss. Cyrus is a very dangerous man and Joss is a college student. Seems to me the play would have been to tip Jaysus off and let him off Cyrus. Much more efficient, IMO, and Carly isn't going to be thrilled if/when she learns Jack put Joss in harm's way.

I don't care if Joss is in harm's way, because she's awful and needs to be taken down a peg or fifty, but it's ridiculous that Girl Detective is the one who's figuring things out. 

2 hours ago, rur said:

*FWIW -- Your mothers were right: The last thing my brother remembers was being in the emergency room -- before being given painkillers -- when they were cutting off his clothes. He heard the nurse say, "Oh -- he isn't wearing any underwear."

Also -- he survived and is fine today. He does, however always wear long sleeved shirts and long pants, not because he wants to hide scars, but because of the delicate condition of his skin. 

Great that he's doing so well. Does he still go commando?

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