Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[statsgirl]

@perkie1968, you have a very perceptive 15 year old, catching on to Carly so quickly.

24 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

So maybe Drew is buried under that building as an homage to Jason.

Welcome home, Tracy! Please don't become a Carlys apologist. Thanks!

I need Tracy to point out how little work Michael does. As in none at all, other than trying to bring Sonny down.. Brook Lynn is more involved than he is. It's maddening that Drew and Michael dismiss Ned's business abilities yet he's the only one in the family actually trying to make ELQ work.

And I need Drew buried beneath the rubble.  Sorry Monica, but he's not worth the screentime much less the praise.

[perkie1968]

3 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

how little work Michael does. As in none at all,

Yes but his poor little wife to be is on her 'deathbed' and by deathbed I mean she hasn't worn makeup in a week.  

[dubbel zout]

13 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

But that would take us away from Curtis' pain.  Because he's the important one in this triangle.  

Well, he is the possible bio dad. What's more crucial than that?

6 minutes ago, MarciNJ said:

1 hour ago, Desperado said:

Molly: “I’ll never be able to have children!”

Kirsten Storms might tell a different story...

I was okay with this. It's natural to go to the worst-case scenario. If Molly continues this line, though, we'll have words. The way this show is unreasonably obsessed with bio kids, I'd be truly shocked if Molly didn't end up pregnant somewhere down the line.

[statsgirl]

3 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

Yes but his poor little wife to be is on her 'deathbed' and by deathbed I mean she hasn't worn makeup in a week.  

On the episode of Call The Midwife PBS aired last night, there was a young boy with leukemia. Not on his deathbed but sick, sunken eyes, ghostly pallor. I kept thinking that the GH makeup people really need to have a look at it because he really really, really sick. Sunken eyes, barely able to move. Compared to him, Willow is going to live forever.

[YaddaYadda]

41 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

  So that curtis can save the day and bring Trina home, thereby having Portia forgive him.  

Forgive him for what? Portia has been ready to resume her life with Curtis. He's the one who has rejected her and almost kissed Jordan. 

Curtis must die!

22 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I was okay with this. It's natural to go to the worst-case scenario. If Molly continues this line, though, we'll have words. The way this show is unreasonably obsessed with bio kids, I'd be truly shocked if Molly didn't end up pregnant somewhere down the line.

The recent adoption storyline was a complete shitshow. The only way a couple can keep their kid is if they give birth to them. Otherwise, a Carly will swoop in and take it without them being able to put up a fight.

[ciarra]

On 4/23/2023 at 2:23 PM, JMO said:

the main cast gets the medical problems

Mostly gunshot wounds.

[DanaMB]

I keep thinking about Nina turning Carly/Drew in and I dread it. It’s going to be Nina is the evil-est AGAIN and I foresee Sonny dumping her. I just can’t.  I’ll have to stop watching I think. 

[Fellaway]

Wow, Robert is rough with a cell phone. And I can't believe Diane bothered to have that ugly suit dry cleaned. Put it out of its misery, I say.

Well, this was a rather boring episode, and aggravating. Ned lost points with me. He's apparently willing to cover for Michael and Drew and Carly, and their shady insider trading escapades, who were doing it for nothing but money and business, but he's all up in Valentin's grill for faking his death and causing some emphemeral appearance of fraud when he's, I don't know, saving his daughter and possibly the world. And don't even get me started on the "better in the hands of a Q" while gazing at Michael. Michael's only a Q when it comes to being given a job and free room and board. I think it's a reasonable concern to want ELQ in the hands of someone who can focus on it - That would be Ned. - but Michael's getting married, plotting revenge on Sonny, and dealing with a dying partner, while Drew is off to save the world. Along with Valentin. So why Michael or Drew are a better choice, I have no idea.

Does anyone, except Nina and, perhaps, Maxie, care about saving Liesl for any reason beyond her body parts? And I really wish this show would acknowledge that for some of we, women, motherhood is not an aspiration.

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by Fellaway

[tessaray]

I didn't mind Molly today. As for the focus on fertility, nothing can make you want a baby like being told you might not be able to have one. 😔 

Ethan and Holly were okay, though my eyes rolled at Ethan Lovett, Robin Hood. Tracy was awesome as usual. 

I know I watched the wedding prep stuff but zoned out and can't remember any of it. 

[TVbitch]

Neither Holly nor Diane are good enough for Robert, though I like that two women will be fighting over him. He's got more game than Chase! 

I would sooner have Jason turn up and save the day than have Curtis or Drew get any glory. 

I'm pretty sure my Australian accent is better than new Ethan's.  

[norahs99]

1 hour ago, DanaMB said:

I keep thinking about Nina turning Carly/Drew in and I dread it. It’s going to be Nina is the evil-est AGAIN and I foresee Sonny dumping her. I just can’t.  I’ll have to stop watching I think. 

My thinking exactly! What lazy writing. Nina is too smart to do this. She should have gone to them and told them to get Willow to accept her or she'll turn them in. Andy only go the SEC if that didn't work. What seems about to happen is stupid.

[Katy M]

3 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

So that curtis can save the day and bring Trina home, thereby having Portia forgive him.  And so that Drew can bring Liesl home and have the Carlys' slobber all over him even more than they already do.

But Portia doesn't need to forgive him, he needs to forgive her.  I imagine this is so that trina will accept him and throw taggart over.  after all, he doesn't care enough to come save her cowboy style (without anybody even telling him she needs saving).

[YaddaYadda]

22 minutes ago, norahs99 said:

My thinking exactly! What lazy writing. Nina is too smart to do this. She should have gone to them and told them to get Willow to accept her or she'll turn them in. Andy only go the SEC if that didn't work. What seems about to happen is stupid.

It's stupid either way. Nina blowing Drew and Carly out of the water vs blackmailing them into convincing Willow to have a relationship with her gives us a similar result. 

In the end, Nina was always going to be the whistleblower. The fallout for her will not be pretty and Nina is going to be the town pariah, but the Carlys can fuck right off a cliff. I am so tired of them.

[perkie1968]

28 minutes ago, Katy M said:

But Portia doesn't need to forgive him, he needs to forgive her. 

Yes, I mispoke.  I was thinking Trina would be so grateful that he saved her that she would agree to the DNA test and they would all live happily ever after.  Which is why Taggert is nowhere near this story.  

[sunnyface]

49 minutes ago, TVbitch said:

I would sooner have Jason turn up and save the day

There is little to no chance that either Drew or Curtis will ever RUIN this show the way that St. Jason did.  Jason failed to protect his bride on his wedding night.  He constantly enabled Carly and Sonny into reaching the ultimate in mean thugs and town bullies over every inch of Port Charles for decades.  One of the best things about GH these days, is NOT to have to watch St. Jason.  He was a vile and violent thug.  Use the police force or WSB to take down criminals - there are plenty of available to get the 'win'.  Sbu needs to never be shown to the door back to GH - and 'never' would be too soon. 

18 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

In the end, Nina was always going to be the whistleblower. The fallout for her will not be pretty and Nina is going to be the town pariah, but the Carlys can fuck right off a cliff. I am so tired of them.

It seemed so out of character for Ava to push this action onto Nina.  It makes absolutely no sense for Nina who is dating a violent criminal to narc on someone.  Nina handled the chapel scene with Sonny and Michael with superhuman grace.  It makes no sense for her to attack her daughter's husband while her daughter is on her death bed and her grandchildren would be left without both parents.  So I guess, to make this character more of a pariah, Nina will be having some loose lips.  Even Liesl would not approve.

Edited April 25, 2023 by sunnyface

[Suicidy]

On 4/18/2023 at 8:45 AM, ffwbe said:

I think the actor who plays Gregory is awkward and stiff. Maybe it’s due to the differences in daytime and lack of direction but he’s bad. Reminds me of the Cyrus actor who I assume was also a great actor in other roles but was awkward on this show. I don’t think he can lead a storyline based on what I’ve seen so far, especially not one that will require heavy scenes. He’s been painful so far.  

Plus so much of the writing is just garbage.

[Suicidy]

On 4/20/2023 at 8:54 AM, dubbel zout said:

I feel like I'm being trolled with this. I find it impossible to believe the writers think either Carly or Michael is acting with any sort of compassion.

As @Pingaponga mentioned above, that's the problem with parallel stories like this. Though both of these should be moving along faster than they are (TFGH), the show also wants to drag out the days as long as possible, and it throws everything off.

 

GHexists in a tiny pocket universe with all kinds of strange spatial and temporal anomalies.  Like the space warp involving the river dividing NY and PA, or the strange time dilation that occurs during these stories.

[Cheyanne11]

2 hours ago, Fellaway said:

Does anyone, except Nina and, perhaps, Maxie, care about saving Liesl for any reason beyond her body parts?

I found all the "Drew is off to get Liesl so she can SAVE Willow" talk to be gross.  Like, even fucking Curtis is thinking of the others and not just Trina.  But the Carlys would be fine if Drew just dragged Liesl's corpse back if it meant her bone marrow was salvageable. 

 

2 hours ago, Fellaway said:

And don't even get me started on the "better in the hands of a Q" while gazing at Michael.

How come when Michael is dealing with personal issues, Ned is like "family is first," but when Valentin tells him to handle things because his plate is full he's like "BETRAYAL!"  Pound salt, Ned. 

PS what in the holy manicotti of it all is going on with Olivia's hair?

[mostlylurking]

I’m glad they are taking Molly’s possible endometriosis seriously. Way too many times fertility problems are diminished like “well it’s not that bad…you’re not gonna DIE”. Even if fertility issues are not a death sentence, it’s painful. It’s very difficult. And the way it’s always minimized is even more painful and hurtful. So I don’t mind if people are extra about it. It’s better than the alternative. It was nice to see Molly’s understandable fears validated.  And I will echo what my fertility specialist told me….Do Not Google!!

I see Brooklyn went from wearing blazers every day to those awful Little Bo Peep puffy sleeves. I’m not a fan.

Cody is absolutely useless so I don’t care if Sasha doesn’t believe him. I had high hopes for Gladys, she’s shown glimmers of intelligence and loyalty so it’s disappointing she’s reverting back to her old ways.

Edited April 25, 2023 by mostlylurking

[mostlylurking]

I get where Portia is coming from.  I mean obviously she won’t be able to keep Trina away from Spencer (and the more she tries the more it will backfire), but she’s probably scared shitless so she’s not being rational.  If my kid was a stowaway on a yacht of a madman I would also be saying all kinds of nonsensical shit.

[mostlylurking]

1 hour ago, Cheyanne11 said:

How come when Michael is dealing with personal issues, Ned is like "family is first," but when Valentin tells him to handle things because his plate is full he's like "BETRAYAL!"  Pound salt, Ned. 

I thought the same thing!  Valentin is legit going through some shit right now and it’s understandable that he’s a little distracted.  I would value Valentin’s contribution to ELQ way more than anything Michael or Drew have ever done.

[ciarra]

I don't give a rat's heiney about Molly, and I'm hoping that no one (Sam, Krissy, Alexis, or heaven forbid, Willow) has to volunteer to carry a child for Tolly. 

Anna, I've never seen taupe sheets and bedding in a hospital.  Did she call a designer?

Take Robert on the mission, send Holly home.  Leave Drewfus out of this.

I don't think you can dry clean anything that has been sprayed with motor oil.

[perkie1968]

7 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

Valentin is legit going through some shit right now

Ned/the Qs/ELQ should have had him declared legally dead when everyone thought he was dead and Ned should have retaken the reins of ELQ.  But the show was so busy pretending that Val, anna and Lucy weren't dead and how they were pulling a fast one on Victor, they never played that beat.  They're bringing it up now so that Ned can eat crow and 'prove' that Drew and Michael were right all along, because they are such wise and smart businessmen.  

[Blackie]

12 hours ago, norahs99 said:

What lazy writing. Nina is too smart to do this. She should have gone to them and told them to get Willow to accept her or she'll turn them in.

 

They have always written Nina doing the stupidest things like showing up at Willow's home and barging right in. The problem with Nina trying the blackmail route is that Carly would go straight to Sonny to tell on her. Sonny would have to side with protecting Michael.

[dubbel zout]

14 hours ago, tessaray said:

Ethan and Holly were okay, though my eyes rolled at Ethan Lovett, Robin Hood.

If his charities are so worthwhile, he shouldn't have to scam people to fund them.  It doesn't make Ethan look any less terrible, IMO. But whatever. He's gone!

[GHScorpiosRule]

2 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

Ned/the Qs/ELQ should have had him declared legally dead when everyone thought he was dead and Ned should have retaken the reins of ELQ.    

Technically, he would have had to wait 7 years before he could declare Valentin dead. Yeah, yeah, I know. This FAKAKTA show doesn't do what actually is done in real life. But there was a time when they at least tried. Oh, wait, that was back when this show had writers who actually cared.

[Sake614]

In this one instance, I sort of understand Ned’s POV. When valentin was through dead, it was one thing. But he’s very much alive now and hasn’t returned to his duties as CEO. He hasn’t met with the Board, either via phone or in person. The company’s stock (according to Ned) has taken a huge hit and the CEO is nowhere to be found. 

Could Ned continue to steer the ship? Of course but Valentin fought tooth and nail to get control of the company. It’s HIS responsibility to either run the company or take a leave of absence. But he still has an obligation that he isn’t fulfilling. Anna is recovering just fine, and for all the ‘ooh Valentin is the scariest of all the cassadines, don’t cross him. Even Helena was terrified!’ BS this show put out there, even I could beat him and I’m a 120 lb weakling! He isn’t needed on this rescue mission anymore than dumb and dumber are needed, Laura can handle it. Let her take Robert. Or even Mac or Dante. Or you know, hire a couple of mercenaries to help her!

the whole thing is just so stupid. But  at least it’s reasonably watchable, unlike Y&R lthese days…

[Kim0820]

41 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Technically, he would have had to wait 7 years before he could declare Valentin dead. Yeah, yeah, I know. This FAKAKTA show doesn't do what actually is done in real life. But there was a time when they at least tried. Oh, wait, that was back when this show had writers who actually cared.

Like degrees and children, it can be rapidly aged.  Giant Baby has already been SORAS'd and he was just born.  A boat that has not been driven for years zipped up the St. Lawrence out to the coast of Greenland already.  (At least Greenland has a coast - don't know what the writers are thinking. It should be the coast of Switzerland).  

[ffwbe]

I don’t even like Dr. O that much but the way Willow’s circle obviously thinks of her as spare parts is completely gross. Love her or hate her, Dr. O only agreed to be the donor for Nina’s sake and they couldn’t even bother to honor her 1 wish to be nicer to Nina. 

[statsgirl]

4 hours ago, Sake614 said:

In this one instance, I sort of understand Ned’s POV. When valentin was through dead, it was one thing. But he’s very much alive now and hasn’t returned to his duties as CEO. He hasn’t met with the Board, either via phone or in person. The company’s stock (according to Ned) has taken a huge hit and the CEO is nowhere to be found. 

It has been two? three? days since the Nurses' Ball and everyone finding out that Valentin is alive. Board's don't convene that fast although maybe they can have a zoom call in an emergency.

Valentin is right, Ned should be handling this on an emergency basis. Ned is the Chair of ELQ's Board  of Directors. Handling the Board is his job.

The only reason that Ned has a real job at ELQ is because of Valentin. For that, Ned should owe him a ton of loyalty.

And I'm pretty sure that if Michael were CEO right now, Ned would be telling him 'Don't worry about anything, just enjoy your wedding and your time with your family." Right now, Michael, the once and future ELQ CEO,  could be helping out with 'the crisis' at ELQ but he can't be bothered and Ned is telling him that he doesn't need to.

The hypocrisy, it burns.

17 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

Yes, I mispoke.  I was thinking Trina would be so grateful that he saved her that she would agree to the DNA test and they would all live happily ever after.  Which is why Taggert is nowhere near this story.  

I understand that RA has health issues and is unavailable sometimes. But i really don't get why Curtis is considered so much more special than Taggart is. Sure, Curtis is pretty but to quote a line from the Cyrano de Bergerac episode of the old Wishbone show, there's nothing behind those curls.

Edited April 25, 2023 by statsgirl

[YaddaYadda]

Nobody invites anywhere, Carly. You just show up.

[PatsyandEddie]

So now Carly is walking Willow down the aisle in place of Drew. She should just marry Michael herself. 🙄

Tracie dropping truth bombs is awesome. Best part of the show today. Love her naturally graying  hair. It makes her eyes just pop. 👏🏻

[ffwbe]

I hate this insider trading story. Of course they would do it in a way so Carly could play victim even though she isn’t at all. I’ll also never get why they bothered to make Nina and Willow mother and daughter. There’s something in their interactions that has always been off and they’ve pretty much made it so their fans don’t want them close, even though on a soap opera scale, the incidents were relatively minor. 

[Pristine]

23 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

    
My 15 yr old was watching with me today after not watching for a while.  I explained Victor's plan to her at which point she said, "So Victor is Thanos and Drew/Laura/Curtis/Valentin are the Suicide Squad?"  She also said she wants the pathogen to take out Carly and that was after only a few minutes of the Carly scene!!

 

🤣

[statsgirl]

Sonny surprised that Nina is putting Willow ahead of her own feelings -- he's too used to Carly.  I'm proud of Nina going through Martin to get to the SEC instead of telling it herself.

Tracy snarking on Carly is why she needs to stay on the show. The Carly Quartermaines really treat her and Monica badly. It's ironic, and not in a good way, that Carly now fits into the Q mansion better than Tracy or Monica.

"There is no one I'd rather have give me away." So now Carly gets to give the bride away and be maid of honour? Wow, Willow really is in her next cult.  And wow, does Willow not have anyone of her own, her whole life is Michael's.

I was never a big fan but please stay Holly. Save Robert from Diane.

Alexis and Anna talking was nice. they're really whitewashing Valentine. Unfortunately they're attributing it to Anna.

[Bunnyto4]

Loving Tracy returning and bringing all the snark. Hope show will be less of a yawn with her back in PC.

[Cheyanne11]

2 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

"There is no one I'd rather have give me away." So now Carly gets to give the bride away and be maid of honour?

Why not have the minister get food poisoning* so Carly has to marry them, too?  I'm actually shocked that somehow that witch wasn't a bone marrow match, at that.  All things Carly, all the time, right, show?  

*Obviously something Olivia outsourced and could somehow blame on Nina, because, show.

[Blackie]

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

Board's don't convene that fast although maybe they can have a zoom call in an emergency.

 

Do you watch Succession? That show demonstrated how fast a board will meet to reassure share holders when there is a change at the top. ELQ  is a multi million dollar company who's stock price is falling, for sure the board would want to meet now that Valentine is back so they could put out a statement. Although you would think with Valentine presumed dead, someone else would have been given his duties and he wouldn't  really have a role now that he just steps back in to.

[Desperado]

Another all talk, no action day.

Oh, Nina. You are self-sabotaging and I hate to watch it.

Especially after that (dare I say) cute saccharine scene with Sonny. So. Much. Kissing. It made me flashback to MB playing Nico w/ Cicely on AMC.

Have they started to put makeup on Willow again? She’s looking healthier every day (sigh).

I can’t believe they’re telling Tracy that they’ve done all they could to save Willow, when their donor search didn’t go much beyond asking two people “do you know anyone who’d like to give their bone marrow?”

[YaddaYadda]

34 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

I’ll also never get why they bothered to make Nina and Willow mother and daughter.

I thought it would go like Alexis/Sam did when they made them mother/daughter. But this storyline has advanced absolutely nothing. The relationship has not changed at all. If anything there seems to be more contempt on Willow's side.

Carly should just adopt Willow at this point.

[dubbel zout]

Yes, Quartermains, it IS Monica's house; Alan gave it to her. (groan) Which means none of you has any say in who comes and goes. Shut up, all of you. Also, Ned's marital history is hardly pristine. Shut up again, everyone.

If Anna knew Valentin was with Laura and the stooges, to get Victor, why was she so shook he made sure Alexis knew and would take care of his estate if necessary? That seems like sensible planning to me. 

25 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

"There is no one I'd rather have give me away."

How about you walk down the aisle yourself, Willow? It's not like the wedding is at Westminster Abbey. 

12 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

Of course they would do it in a way so Carly could play victim even though she isn’t at all.

Carly was always going to be the victim and big bad Nina always the villain. It wouldn't matter how that news got out.

"You gotta let go of this resentment you have toward Carly and Drew." REALLY, Sonny? Have Carly and Drew let go of their resentment of Nina? Why does Nina always have to be the one to compromise?

 

[mostlylurking]

53 minutes ago, PatsyandEddie said:

Tracie dropping truth bombs is awesome. Best part of the show today. Love her naturally graying  hair. It makes her eyes just pop. 👏🏻

And she has the most amazing skin!  I’d love to know Jane Elliott’s skincare routine.

Tracy was AMAZING putting Carly in her place, not that it has any affect whatsoever.  I thought it was so gross how everyone ganged up on Tracy in defense of Carly.  Just so, so gross 🤢 

[mostlylurking]

35 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I was never a big fan but please stay Holly. Save Robert from Diane.

I actually liked Diane’s facial reactions when Holly burst into Robert’s office and he was basically like “no, no you’re not interrupting ANYTHING”. I’d be pretty miffed at that myself!

[Gigi43]

Willow has days to live, supposedly, and Ned stops Tracy from getting into her lists of specialists with some weird line about spotlight stealing? Huh? Hey maybe Ned wants Willow to die like I do, but otherwise that makes no sense. It's Dr O or give up at this point? I really don't want to see what they do with ALS or Endometriosis when they've botched cancer this badly. 

 

Willow is such a pod Saint worrying about poor Carly if something happens to Drew. She takes on what everyone else could feel (except Nina) and almost no point of views of her own. 

 

Nina expecting her name will be kept out of it is so dumb but not surprising, just like she'll be the bad guy for outting a crime Carly committed. This whole thing has been a waste of time. 

[PatsyandEddie]

Willow could have asked Ned to walk her down the aisle or even Wiley.
Better yet,  walk your own ass down the aisle.

[Daisy]

honestly i'm not against people being walked down the aisle

but i hate Carly so i'll rant with you people. 

RANNT

was Yesterday/Today worth watching?

[statsgirl]

9 minutes ago, Gigi43 said:

Nina expecting her name will be kept out of it is so dumb but not surprising, just like she'll be the bad guy for outting a crime Carly committed. This whole thing has been a waste of time. 

I agree that this has been a complete waste of time because Carly will never get into trouble for more than a minute but realistically, doesn't the SEC accept anonymous tips? The investigation shouldn't point to Nina at all.

 

51 minutes ago, Blackie said:

ELQ  is a multi million dollar company who's stock price is falling, for sure the board would want to meet now that Valentine is back so they could put out a statement. Although you would think with Valentine presumed dead, someone else would have been given his duties and he wouldn't  really have a role now that he just steps back in to.

Exactly. The stock price should have dropped when Valentin "died". If Ned, and Michael and Drew since they're so great, had done their jobs then, they would have called the Board and done whatever was needed to stabilize the stock at that time. When Valentin showed up alive, it might a caused a blip but not much everything should already be settled.

All this is as stupid as Carly getting off from insider trading. Rather than developing logically, both stories are written to make the Carlys look good .

32 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Carly should just adopt Willow at this point.

She has in all but the legal sense.

The archaic "giving the bride away" symbolizes going from your father's ownership to your husband's so Carly, who is neither Willow's family nor an old friend, giving Willow to her own son makes no sense except to reinforce that Willow is completely owned by the Carlys.

Nina ever had a chance.

If you can get the Tracy clips elsewhere, I think the rest of the episodes are skipable.

[lala2]

So, I haven’t watched this week, and I decided last week that I was done with all things involving the following stories: Willow’s cancer, Michael’s lame (yes, I’m already calling it) revenge, insider trading/SEC, and the Willow/Nina relationship. 

I’ve read that Nina called the SEC, and my only issue with it is the show’s unwillingness to have her be proud and unapologetic about it. Back in the day, soap characters did things they were unapologetic about all the time. Why can’t Nina have an “I did what I did. Sorry, not sorry” attitude about it?!? I’d rather see that than her whining and crying later when it’s discovered. I’d rather see her tell Ava she’s written off the idea of ever having a relationship with Willow so she just doesn’t care anymore. I don’t know. Anything is preferable to crying AFTER the fact. 

Anyway, this story has nothing to offer those who actually like Nina so I will continue to not watch. This part of the show is basically written for the Carly lovers/Nina haters. Whatever. 🙄 

I believe Sprina is back tomorrow so I will tune in and mute/FF the Carlys. 

ETA: I also agree with those who feel Willow could walk herself down the aisle! 🙄

Edited April 25, 2023 by lala2

[funnygirl]

I really enjoy Nina and Sonny together.

Carly is so exhausting and her Mary Sue treatment on this show is beyond frustrating. 

Tracy wins the episode for keeping her foot on Carly's neck. At least someone in that house remembers what a terror Carly really is. 

Olivia is annoying, time to bring back Lois! 

[DanaMB]

I guess these are the last happy Sonny/ Nina scenes we’ll get. As a fan, it sucks.

I hated the Qs piling on Tracey for daring to insult Carly. And I fast forwarded all of insipid Willow and stupid Wiley.  I’m truly starting to hate this show. I’m ready to stop recording it and just keep up here. Sad, since I’ve been watching for 36 years. 

Edited April 25, 2023 by DanaMB