Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[Daisy]

5 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I did a double-take at that, but patients can refuse any visitor and limit who gets health updates.

learned something new. 

5 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Sorry, but JPS is no Sebastian Roché.

hehe no. no he is not. 

[ciarra]

2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Wasn't Shawn the manager of Kelly's for a while?

I thought he also held a teaching certificate and tutored.

[statsgirl]

My favourite part of the episode was Maxie coming into Kelly's, sitting down and picking up a crayon and starting to colour. Such a mommy thing to do.

I'm really rooting for Joey Novak to take down Carly. But I know it's not going to ever happen. I wish that Curtis had thrown Carly out instead of Joey but she's such a poor, fragile flower everyone must protect her. (She's Mary in Downton Abbey, tough, narcissistic and needs to be the centre of attention)

Shut up, Olivia. Austin is allowed to exist and go out to get a drink. He's not in  your hotel, you have no say here

I liked the colour scheme of both Austin and Anna in a burgundy shirt/sweater and blue jacket. I really liked Anna's tweedy jacket.

Anna, what part of "Valentin needs to rest and recover" includes you fighting with him about Victor?

LOL at Cyrus suggesting that Sonny ran away for a while.  He's right about being careful around someone who has nothing to lose. At least it's true unless you cheat and  have the writers totally in your corner.

17 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I did a double-take at that, but patients can refuse any visitor and limit who gets health updates.

I learned that you can designate other people of familiar contacts. Usually it's only family who is allowed information on the state of a patient. Patients can refuse anyone access.

[GHScorpiosRule]

29 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Sorry, but JPS is no Sebastian Roché.

[Cheyanne11]

8 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I'm really rooting for Joey Novak to take down Carly. But I know it's not going to ever happen. I wish that Curtis had thrown Carly out instead of Joey but she's such a poor, fragile flower everyone must protect her.

Carly: "You don't want to mess with ME!"

Also Carly: "Jason/Sonny, so and so was messing with me, HELP!"

In conclusion, Carly sucks.

Olivia is the type of parent that if she forced Leo onto a Little League team and the coach put the disinterested kid in right field, she'd stomp up to them and demand he be the pitcher and get the MVP award just for participating.

Edited November 3, 2021 by Cheyanne11

[absnow54]

49 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Oh Look. Joey is all. you murdered my uncle. and instead of just being. "honestly, I'm really sorry that happened, I honestly had no idea that was going to happen,." or some bull, and looking contrite. Carly is all. HAHAHAHAHAHA. WE WON, WE WILL ALWAYS WIN, and oh no Joey is going to threaten me. 

She obviously learned nothing since the time she ran her mouth off at Nina, which led to Nina hiding the fact her husband was still alive for 9 MONTHS.

[dubbel zout]

3 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Shut up, Olivia. Austin is allowed to exist and go out to get a drink. He's not in your hotel, you have no say here

Olivia really needs to stop the attitude toward Austin. It's tiresome and unnecessary. Walk away or Ignore him if he's so irksome to you. Gah.

"Peter has escaped twice now." Valentin needs a remedial arithmetic class. Peter has done nothing but escape.

I liked Cyrus needling Sonny. It helps that Jeff Kober clearly isn't intimidated by working with the legendary Maurice Benard. (That adjective is sarcastic, btw.)

[Daisy]

Just now, absnow54 said:

She obviously learned nothing since the time she ran her mouth off at Nina, which led to Nina hiding the fact her husband was still alive for 9 MONTHS.

right? like for once, instead of just. shooting off your mouth, just say what the other person wants to hear. The guy lost his uncle. YOU THOUGHT YOUR HUSBAND WAS DEAD. just call on that, pretend to make amends and poof peace. no. you decide to be all. nananahnananabooboo and then won't understand when they go after you. And i'm tired of this crap because we know how this will end. No one will die. no one will be hurt. no one will be maimed or damged or be off Team Corrinthi. SO WHY ARE YOU WASTING MY TIME. 

 

 

[Cheyanne11]

Just now, dubbel zout said:

I liked Cyrus needling Sonny. It helps that Jeff Kober clearly isn't intimidated by working with the legendary Maurice Benard. (That adjective is sarcastic, btw.)

Imagined between takes conversation:

MB: "Would you like me to give you some pointers?"

JK: (looking amused) "No, I'm good.  But, er, thanks.  I guess."

[GHScorpiosRule]

20 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Olivia is the type of parent that if she forced Leo onto a Little League team and the coach put the disinterested kid in right field, she'd stomp up to them and demand he be the pitcher and get the MVP award just for participating.

It’s a wonder that Dante turned out as well as he did. Or maybe it’s the influence of the many uncles?

Or maybe it’s just the infection from Mooby in the past 10 years.

[perkie1968]

52 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I'm really rooting for Joey Novak to take down Carly.

Ugh, I despise CarSaSon and the mob element with the heat of a thousand suns, and want someone to take them down, but Joey seems like such a little dipshit, not worthy of going up against anyone.  No way should a little pissant like that take down anyone, if Cyrus wasn't allowed to win and he was a way bigger foe than idiot Joey Novak.  

54 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Shut up, Olivia. Austin is allowed to exist and go out to get a drink.

Today it almost felt like she was deliberately searching him out because deep deep, way deep beneath the Italian River of Denial, she knows there is something going on with Leo and wants Austin's advice.  

 

[YaddaYadda]

Gladys needs to be hit by a bus. I know that she's a grifter, but at least try to keep a low profile about it. I'm assuming she'll end up telling Austin how BLQ's baby daddy is not Valentin. It seems like Valentin will find out the truth from someone other than BL and Maxie. I still think they should have let him in on the whole thing from the go.

Chase and BL spend a lot of time off screen according to Charlotte. I'd like to see their interaction on screen. To me, this is like Dante saying he spent the whole day with Rocco or Sam was hanging out with her kids. Don't tell me, show me. Like dead show, you take the time to show us everything CarSon/Jarly, including the showers and the bathroom breaks.

It seems Curtis is going to be pulled into the whole mob situation whether he likes it or not.

I'm assuming that Cyrus either don't know that Laura is alive or is fishing for information to try and find her after he put out a hit on her.

And yes, Cyrus, Sonny was in fact hiding. He didn't want to know about his past, so you know . . . hiding.

Go away, Olivia. LLC is a handsome woman, and I'm sure she's a lovely person. I got to see her once in an episode of It's Always Sunny, but Olivia as a character is just the pits. Divorce Ned and move out of the mansion. It's not like you can't afford your own place. 

Also, didn't Ned adopt Leo recently? Which would make him the kid's father. So for Olivia to keep screeching about my kid, my kid, my kid, is just pretty rude. Olivia has no manners.

Honestly, I sort of love that Joey Novak is back in PC about to start a mob war from the looks of it and Jason is all the way in Europe, probably in some cell, in a time out. Let's see how Sonny and Carly manage without him.

[perkie1968]

5 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Let's see how Sonny and Carly manage without him.

Well Shawn needs a job since he didn't take Nik's hush money!!

[dubbel zout]

22 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

deep deep, way deep beneath the Italian River of Denial, she knows there is something going on with Leo and wants Austin's advice.  

Of course she knows, which makes this all the more aggravating. Find out if there's something that needs attention! The earlier you start any sort of therapy, the earlier things can happen. 

[Daisy]

39 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Of course she knows, which makes this all the more aggravating. Find out if there's something that needs attention! The earlier you start any sort of therapy, the earlier things can happen. 

and the more annoying thing is - the show made a point of saying another doctor (one that she trusted) said that yah maybe Leo should see a neurologist. at that point this is not just an Austin thing, and she needs to go kick rocks. . 

[Blackie]

Today seemed really boring, or at least it didn't wake me up from my nap.

[drtslim]

I am very underwhelmed by this brewing mob story.  Joey Novack seems like such a little pissant that I take him even less seriously than the usual “big new threats.”  Maybe we’re supposed to be underestimating him, and the writers are faking us out?

Also, I noticed a sparkette of chemistry between Chase and Liz.  That would certainly be interesting given that she’s currently in a situationship with his brother.  Plus, he’s apparently spending all this time offscreen with BLQ and seems to be getting more embroiled in the BaileyLou story.  Maybe they’ll circle back to them at some point.

[30 Helens]

On 11/2/2021 at 8:49 AM, ouinason said:

But really, Peter can't be definitely dead to all of PC until the show is ready to reveal the baby switch.  They will have to have him fall in a river and mysteriously disappear again.  

And wake up in Nixon Falls? <shudder>

On 11/2/2021 at 2:38 PM, statsgirl said:

"Spence's father and Ava showed up yesterday and expected Spence to wait on them." The horrors! I bet the kids had fun with that line.

Speaking of which… has Kelly’s ever had waiters before? I always remembered everyone picking up their food at the counter. I don’t know why they would need a waiter; there are like 5 tables total. Spencer should be back there grilling burgers like everyone else had to do for their temporary story-mandated job.

On 11/2/2021 at 2:58 PM, YaddaYadda said:

You are allegedly locked out of your trust fund.

I don’t think Esme has a trust fund. I think that’s part of her con. I still think she will be revealed as Ryan’s daughter eventually, but whatever her real story is, she has my interest, and that’s a lot more than I can say for many characters on this show. 

4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Someone asked about Liesl biting a rope between her teeth. I think that sort of thing isn't about pain so much as giving the patient something else to focus on. And it makes it harder to scream.

Although I otherwise enjoyed the scene, the whole business of removing the spear was so silly. Liesl needs something to bite on? Oh, look, someone dropped a piece of pristinely white rope cut to the perfect length! Also, Britt should know better than to rip out that spear. (I know it would be unwieldy to move Liesl with that in, but still, not even a hesitation?) I was wondering what she would use to stanch the gusher of blood that would certainly emerge, but fortunately the rope fairy also left a good length of surgical bandage. So lucky!

[perkie1968]

2 hours ago, drtslim said:

Plus, he’s apparently spending all this time offscreen with BLQ and seems to be getting more embroiled in the BaileyLou story.

I'm putting money on Valentin finding out that Bailey isn't his and BLQ telling Chase the truth and asking him to pretend that he's the baby daddy, to protect from Peter.  

[YaddaYadda]

3 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

I'm putting money on Valentin finding out that Bailey isn't his and BLQ telling Chase the truth and asking him to pretend that he's the baby daddy, to protect from Peter.  

I guess it could happen seeing as BL was sleeping on Chase's couch for a bit.

But watch out! The self-righteous duo will smell blood in the water. Willow will be all hurt because Chase slept with BLQ and Michael will get on his high horse about how Chase should be helping with the baby or some nonsense, because you know he'll have to stick his nose where it doesn't belong.

Edited November 4, 2021 by YaddaYadda

[drtslim]

41 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I guess it could happen seeing as BL was sleeping on Chase's couch for a bit.

But watch out! The self-righteous duo will smell blood in the water. Willow will be all hurt because Chase slept with BLQ and Michael will get on his high horse about how Chase should be helping with the baby or some nonsense, because you know he'll have to stick his nose where it doesn't belong.

And I hope that Chase tells the Milquetoast Duo to go suck a lollipop! They were busy falling in love (Michael was using Wiley to entice Willow into a real relationship), so what if he fell into bed with BLQ a couple of times.

[TVbitch]

I hope Joey Novak did not go to the Peter August School of Villainry Acting. He was pretty OTT on the docks. 

What on earth was all that on Maxie's eyelids?! I've seen less eye shadow on RuPaul's Drag Race.

 

[Gam2]

I’m not sure which is more unattractive: Maxie’s clothes or her eye makeup. Good night nurse, that girl needs some serious help!

[statsgirl]

7 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

He was. But it was too boring for him-not exciting enough. Being Mooby’s lackey and inept hitman was more exciting, so he quit.

Just like Spinelli who blew up his marriage for the more exciting life of being a mob lackey. Apparently working for Sonny is The. Best. Job. Ever.

5 hours ago, Daisy said:

right? like for once, instead of just. shooting off your mouth, just say what the other person wants to hear. The guy lost his uncle. YOU THOUGHT YOUR HUSBAND WAS DEAD. just call on that, pretend to make amends and poof peace. no. you decide to be all. nananahnananabooboo and then won't understand when they go after you. And i'm tired of this crap because we know how this will end. No one will die. no one will be hurt. no one will be maimed or damged or be off Team Corrinthi. SO WHY ARE YOU WASTING MY TIME.

In the dictionary, at the definitive of "lack of empathy", there is Carly's picture along with Joss'.

4 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

Ugh, I despise CarSaSon and the mob element with the heat of a thousand suns, and want someone to take them down, but Joey seems like such a little dipshit, not worthy of going up against anyone.  No way should a little pissant like that take

That's the point. Sonny must always win so anyone going up against him must be neutered. If Sonny had been Peter's opponent instead of Anna, Valentin etc., Peter would be long gone by now.

[Auntie Velvet]

Is it possible that Cyrus wasn't actually the one who put a hit out on Laura and Col. Martin? Of course it could just be him fishing for her whereabouts or state of mind, but JK always does a good job with the family pathos.

[Cheyanne11]

Carly might as well have just said "HA HA, YES, WE KILLED YOUR UNCLE!" for how much she essentially admitted it.  I know we've all said it a kajillion times, but for once can whatever mob violence Joey Novak perpetrates on them effect Joss?  Or Michael...or Wiley?  They need some reality dumped on their smug asses.

Also, Curtis, the correct response to Carly ~apologizing and saying she left her goon squad outside was "I get that you need to protect yourself, but I can't have that kind of presence in my club.  I hope you understand, but please stay away while this current threat exists."  JFC, these people.

Olivia snarks at Austin to leave her alone...and then follows him to his table and snaps at him some more.  I know Austin has become a love him or hate him character, but I couldn't love the ambivalent, calm way he handles that shrieking loon. 

[ciarra]

4 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

has Kelly’s ever had waiters before

Liz used to wait tables (and fill salt shakers) back in the day.  Then SWSNBN was a waitress, too.  Back when they did a Very Special Episode on her. 

Edited November 4, 2021 by ciarra

[ciarra]

Did I sleep through Halloween in Port Charles?  Maxie didn't get a birthday?

[perkie1968]

7 hours ago, ciarra said:

Did I sleep through Halloween in Port Charles?

There was a brief scene between Sonny/Avery and Carly where it was mentioned that Carly steals all of the kit kats.  

[dubbel zout]

Didn't Maxie have a chat with Austin about having BJ's heart? Was that on Halloween? Anything not yesterday might as well have been a year ago, lol.

[Auntie Velvet]

There was nothing in the previews for today, or the written previews for today or tomorrow, that mention anything about Cassadine island. If that holds true, these characters will have been at literal gunpoint for almost a week before we see them again. 

[absnow54]

6 minutes ago, Auntie Velvet said:

There was nothing in the previews for today, or the written previews for today or tomorrow, that mention anything about Cassadine island. If that holds true, these characters will have been at literal gunpoint for almost a week before we see them again. 

I swear, Cameron Mathison is only allowed to appear once a week. 

[Melgaypet]

5 minutes ago, absnow54 said:

I swear, Cameron Mathison is only allowed to appear once a week.

I must still have scars from when All My Children was The Ryan Lavery Show, because my knee-jerk reaction to this sentence was "good!"

[Blackie]

12 hours ago, ciarra said:

Did I sleep through Halloween in Port Charles?  Maxie didn't get a birthday?

 

Maybe that is why she has been in a hobo costume for weeks.

[Daisy]

Today's Notes

Alexis: shut up. Alexis. shut up again. 

Ava: you look awesome 

Ned. you are too good for Olivia. Ned is gonna bankroll Trina's project. 

Olivia is drunk.  she is saying to Robert her marriage is over. (good. leave). Just shut up Olivia. Robert: Why are you telling me this, and not Ned? (good question).

lmao mystery hat guy beat up Joey Novak? geeezee. 

Sam: do you always keep your door unlocked when you're closed? (so why did you waltz in?)

Shawn thinks Nik killed Naomi Dreyfus. Shawn just needs to go away. like go kick rocks. Shut up about your justice. All this crap about "Violet has to deal w/o her mom and gramma" you were GOING to KILL DREW. What about Scout having to deal w/o her daddy?. How were you going to get "justice?" for Scout? 

haha Mistah Sheffield is all "i can cut the sexual tension." Anna is like :O

Olivia sticks her tongue down Robert's throat. Ned of course sees. And then punches him in the face. poor Robert. Olivia starts throwing crap in Ned's face and is all "well i don't even think we're close enough to even call each other married." Ned - call Dianne, and divorce Olivia. you deserve so much better than her.  Olivia decided after she saw the painting, to start crying. Don't care. I have ZERO poops for your pain. 

ohoo. Esme is all. "our plan hit a snag, but i did promise i'll get back in."
(honestly as intrigued as i am, i know the show will screw it up so...)

 

(also it hit me this olivia/ned thing has been a year. geeze marie)

[statsgirl]

They should give all the French dialogue to Ava. I was shocked that that someone finally got the pronunciation right. Well done, MW. 

"It's Ned. We've tried, we've tried everything."  Except family therapy Olivia, or taking Leo to a specialist.

Today's PSA is for the Photo Ark project.

I loved Harmony's eyerolling expressions about Esme.  I wish she had told Esme to stay out of her private life instead of apologizing for her past sins.

Alexis, I'd take Dostoevsky over Spencer. And i don't like Russian literature.

Robert, coffee will actually make Olivia feel worse.  It dehydrates and what she should be doing is hydrating more.

OMG Curtis, tell Dante that Joey Novak was there hassling Carly. Curtis is deliberating withholding vital information on who could have  beaten up Joey. Why is everyone (except Scott) protecting Carly and Sonny?

Way to think about manipulating Finn, Shawn. You're still garbage and deserves to be in jail.

How is Spencer going to pay for getting checked out at GH?

[dubbel zout]

What time of day is it that Trina is still at the gallery, Portia is drinking at Curtis's club, and Olivia is hammered at the MetroCourt?

[Pingaponga]

35 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

How is Spencer going to pay for getting checked out at GH?

Didn't he drive Esme to Shadybrook (or whatever it's called)? How is he paying for the car, insurance, gas, etc.?

[ffwbe]

LMAO I knew Robert/Olivia would be bad and I don’t get why Olivia is 10x as mad with Ned for wanted Leo to see a doctor than she was for Ned cheating on her and lying about it for months. I don’t get this story 

[drtslim]

54 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

How is Spencer going to pay for getting checked out at GH?

Didn't he say that he gets benefits from working at Kelly's?

[absnow54]

52 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

How is Spencer going to pay for getting checked out at GH?

Regardless of the fact I doubt Nikolas removed Spencer from his health insurance policy, Port Charles seems to exist in this fictional bubble with Universal Healthcare, where people drop by the hospital to have a papercut checked out (unless you're Lucky and Liz and exist in the realm of what GH writers think "working middle class" is.)

[Katy M]

8 minutes ago, drtslim said:

Didn't he say that he gets benefits from working at Kelly's?

I haven't seen today's.  I don't know what's getting checked out.  But, if he's just getting something checked out, I doubt he would meet his deductible.  

[perkie1968]

22 minutes ago, Katy M said:

But, if he's just getting something checked out,

He burnt his hand on the espresso machine at Kelly's.  

 

32 minutes ago, drtslim said:

Didn't he say that he gets benefits from working at Kelly's?

After one day?!  Technically half a day since he left midway through his shift and had to be rehired and it's still the same day.  

 

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

you were GOING to KILL DREW. What about Scout having to deal w/o her daddy?

Scout didn't exist yet, but I get where you're going!

 

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

mao mystery hat guy beat up Joey Novak? geeezee.

Or Sonny had his poeple do it, whoever is taking Jason's place while he's on vacation!

[Cheyanne11]

16 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

He burnt his hand on the espresso machine at Kelly's.  

Workers' Comp.

[Katy M]

18 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

He burnt his hand on the espresso machine at Kelly's.  

Workman's comp should cover that.

[Blackie]

I like Robert as much as the next guy but he had a stunned look on his face for half the episode. I know Olivia was acting cra cra and he was like "wtf" but he looked like he was painfully constipated throughout his scenes for some reason.

Trina had already seen Spencer with his burnt hand at the gallery, so why did he have to explain it again at the hospital. Wasn't Ava going to get the bar tender to hang the art in Olivia's office as a surprise? I thought she was planning something like sending painting that looked like Nina and Sonny to drive Carly nuts. But then Ned shows up with the very badly wrapped painting of a dog.

I agree that the timing of this show was all over the place.

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Blackie
spelling

[statsgirl]

Ned bought the painting for Olivia and he was going to get Kip, the bartender, to hang it in her office as a surprise. He was probably taking it over for Kip and was surprised to see Olivia who should have been off duty as she was drinking with Carly in the afternoon.

48 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

Or Sonny had his poeple do it, whoever is taking Jason's place while he's on vacation!

Yes. I can't see Old Guy In A Hat able to do it or  bothering to or why he would. Carly called Sonny to complain about Joey so I assume Sonny called his goons to beat Joey up.

Pity, I was hoping that there would be a mob war that the Novaks won.

[drtslim]

55 minutes ago, perkie1968 said:

After one day?!  Technically half a day since he left midway through his shift and had to be rehired and it's still the same day.  

Things move quickly in Port Charles.

[YaddaYadda]

Oh, Sean! Five million smackers for your silence. What a stand up guy. But if it gets you to shut up, then take the money.

Alex's self-righteousness if off the charts these days.

I still very much enjoy Harmony. 

So Joey Novak was beaten within an inch of his life. Shocking that the man who is asking about Curtis all over town is not a good guy. Actually, I've been wondering if this dude isn't part of Curtis's past when he was working undercover and got hooked on drugs, just like Cyrus was part of Jordan's life when she was working undercover to bring down his organization. I wonder if they're not about to have Curtis fall off the wagon. 

[perkie1968]

1 hour ago, Blackie said:

Trina had already seen Spencer with his burnt hand at the gallery,

That scene was weird and disjointed.  This is all the same day, as evidenced by Spencer's clothes.  So he went to the gallery to talk to Trina about his issues and she opened a can of whoop ass on him.  He went back to Kelly's to get his job back.  Went to visit Alexis, who told him to go to the hospital to get his hand checked out.  He runs into Trina at the hospital and she talks to him in a nice and friendly manner as though she didn't just see him two hours ago and tore a strip off of him.   I think those two scenes must have been shot days apart and the actors didn't realize they would air in back to back episodes.