Carlin and Evan: But Mostly Carlin!

[emmawoodhouse]

1 hour ago, 3 is enough said:

I wouldn't wish severe morning sickness on anyone. (Well, maybe Jill Rodrigues).

It's especially not fun with a toddler.  And since this is only their second, I can't really fault them for the two year spacing, especially since I did that myself.

However, if this is something that happens with every pregnancy and they still pump out 6-8 kids my sympathy may run out.

We still don't know the full scope of her complications. I'm sure they'll share in an upcoming vlog. If there's one thing we can count on from these two, it's oversharing.

[clueless101]

She doesn't seem sick at all when she's on vacation.

[GeeGolly]

I hesitate to comment on folks' figures/looks, but have y'all seen Carlin's recent IG post?

Her feet.

[3 is enough]

I think that's just the angle.  I never really noticed that she had long feet.  The same thing with Lawson's GF Tiffany- her feet look huge, but again think it may just be a camera angle.

[Totally]

Because I had nothing better to do .. I had a look through Carlin’s photos and she does seem to have decent sized feet , but they do look particularly huge in those pics 😮

[Dehumidifier]

On 10/12/2021 at 9:51 AM, GeeGolly said:

I hesitate to comment on folks' figures/looks, but have y'all seen Carlin's recent IG post?

Her feet.

What do you propose women with big feet (like me) do? Cut our toes off?

[GeeGolly]

19 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

What do you propose women with big feet (like me) do? Cut our toes off?

Its not the size. Its the proportion. So very slim with long toes.

[Dehumidifier]

5 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Its not the size. Its the proportion. So very slim with long toes.

So cutting them off would work!

[YupItsMe]

What I noticed in Carlin’s pictures is that she must sleep in full makeup.

[lookeyloo]

7 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Its not the size. Its the proportion. So very slim with long toes.

I have a cousin with that situation.  Can't help it.

[emmawoodhouse]

I'd rather have long, elegant feet rather than the wide, stumpy ones I was cursed with. 

[3 is enough]

I have long toes. I hate them but short of avoiding open toed sandals there isn’t much I can do.

So they are at Silver Dollar City.  It was in the low 70’s with showers today, and Carlin was in jeans and a light jacket.  Layla was in shorts and a sleeveless top.  I don’t get it.  Does’t she worry that Layla will get cold?

 

Edited October 13, 2021 by 3 is enough

[SMama]

53 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

So they are at Silver Dollar City.  It was in the low 70’s with showers today, and Carlin was in jeans and a light jacket.  Layla was in shorts and a sleeveless top.  I don’t get it.  Does’t she worry that Layla will get cold?

 

It’s not only sleeveless, it’s a freaking halter top. At least from the video in her IG story.

I’ve always appreciated how much they talk to Layla (except when Carlin is filming), but man, they really drop the ball daily. What is a couple completely unprepared for parenthood to do? Let’s have another one! 

[3 is enough]

She dresses Layla like a little doll.  Those outfits she picks are not comfortable or appropriate for a toddler. I can’t stand the way her shirts always ride up over her belly, and no one bothers to pull them down. Yesterday she was wearing a sweater and tights.  It looked like something was missing ( a little skirt maybe?) I just don’t get it.

[3 is enough]

Interesting addition to her stories.  There is a screenshot of someone asking who is dressed for the weather.  Carlin says that Layla sweats a lot,  and she herself is always cold when she is pregnant, which explains the jacket.

[iluvobx]

13 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

Interesting addition to her stories.  There is a screenshot of someone asking who is dressed for the weather.  Carlin says that Layla sweats a lot,  and she herself is always cold when she is pregnant, which explains the jacket.

If your child sweats a lot, then you have too many clothes on the child.  DUH

[Dehumidifier]

The comments above said the kid was underdressed.

[3 is enough]

Layla was dressed for July in mid-October.  The temperature was in the low 70's with showers.  She was wearing shorts and a sleeveless (and strapless) top that was short enough to leave her belly exposed.  Even if she tends to get warm, a short sleeved t-shirt with her shorts, or maybe a pair of light leggings would have been more weather appropriate.  And a rain jacket handy to keep her dry.  Everyone else was dressed for the weather.  

[cereality]

Man these 2 are DESPERATE for a boy. They're not even staying sweet and saying "whatever the Lord gives us." Evan straight up said in today's YouTube, I'm feeling a boy, I want a boy, I already have a little girl. And Carlin goes - if this one is a girl, then I'm going to want child #3 to be a boy. The only way they make it sound "better" is both of them go - but I won't be mad about it if it's a girl (uh you can be mad or not, the kid is yours to deal with); and it'd be cute to see 2 little girls close in age. OMG I hope this isn't a John situation where he just can't make a boy. I mean I'm sure they'll have enough kids that they'll get some boys, but you never know - Evan's own dad took like 4 tries to make a boy . . . .

And also interesting that as dumb as they are, they are going to an actual high risk dr this time and that high risk dr in consultation with another high risk dr. says that heparin has risks and she doesn't want to just pass it out freely with Carlin's combo of disorders; so Carlin isn't taking heparin during this pregnancy but faces clotting risk to HER for 6 weeks after delivery - so as soon as she delivers she'll have to be on clotting shots for herself for 2 months. Interesting to contrast that to Erin - who under the guidance of Vick who was wrapped around their fingers - basically just decided it was fine to take heparin yearly bc they had to have a kid yearly . . . until other issues cropped up; I mean maybe it was ok bc Erin has a different set of disorders but IDK Vick just doesn't seem as sophisticated as these specialists. Seems like he hears clotting, my sisters have it, and off you go w/ heparin; Carlin was on heparin w/ kid #1 like the second she peed on the stick. While these specialists seem to be taking a more detailed approach w/ genetic testing to find out exactly what the disorders are, how they interact w/ each other, and what the risks vs. benefit of heparin are in this exact situation.

These girls just aren't built to birth that many kids much to their shock I'm sure - btwn Carlin/Josie/Erin/Tori all have clotting issues; Michaela (and/or Brandon) having unexplained fertility issues; and Alyssa's heart problems. You'd think the girls w/ the clotting issues would pop out 2 babies, thank their lucky stars for healthy moms/babies and close down the shop. And yet you have Carlin already taking about baby 3 - despite the significant post delivery risks to her??! You've got Josie talking about #3 already and Kelton has said 5 (recently - not like he said it pre wedding before he knew all this, he's said it after they've already had 2); and Erin doing whatever the hell she's doing to make babies!? And if the girls are too stupid to figure out that their taking real risks here, you'd think their headships would make the decision for them -- but nope -- most of the headships (except Bobby) are too focused on getting at least 2 sons and they don't have that yet.

Edited October 17, 2021 by cereality

[FizzyPuff]

I watched Carlin and Evans video and Carlin did say she was thinking it’s a boy Evan, a girl but then Evan says it could be a boy because she’s been sicker this time than with Layla, that he’d love a son and also Carlin did say it would be cute to see Layla with a sister. Also Evan did say they would be happy either way. 
I wouldn’t be surprised if they do want a boy  though because I honestly don’t see them wanting to have loads of kids?
@cereality Did we watch the same video? Or do you think they added an edit? 
 

Edited October 17, 2021 by FizzyPuff

[ozziemom]

Layla looks just like her Stewart relatives! Looks like they were all in Branson vacationing.

[Dehumidifier]

1 hour ago, FizzyPuff said:

I watched Carlin and Evans video and Carlin did say she was thinking it’s a boy Evan, a girl but then Evan says it could be a boy because she’s been sicker this time than with Layla, that he’d love a son and also Carlin did say it would be cute to see Layla with a sister. Also Evan did say they would be happy either way. 
I wouldn’t be surprised if they do want a boy  though because I honestly don’t see them wanting to have loads of kids?
@cereality Did we watch the same video? Or do you think they added an edit? 
 

Just watched. Accurate synopsis.

[BitterApple]

2 hours ago, FizzyPuff said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if they do want a boy  though because I honestly don’t see them wanting to have loads of kids?
@cereality

I don't think they do either. Carlin and Evan are a very freewheeling couple. They like to travel and be spontaneous, and that's going to be difficult with a bunch of kids. It's fairly cheap now, but Layla is approaching the age where she can no longer be a lap child on flights. Having to buy three or four plane tickets to see Alyssa for the weekend may not be doable, especially given Evan's constant concern about spending. 

Also, kids have so many different personalities. Layla may be a good traveler, but #2 or #3 might not. It could get very stressful dragging little ones all over the South. I think their family size will largely be determined by how well they handle this next baby. 

[ozziemom]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

I don't think they do either. Carlin and Evan are a very freewheeling couple. They like to travel and be spontaneous, and that's going to be difficult with a bunch of kids. It's fairly cheap now, but Layla is approaching the age where she can no longer be a lap child on flights. Having to buy three or four plane tickets to see Alyssa for the weekend may not be doable, especially given Evan's constant concern about spending. 

Also, kids have so many different personalities. Layla may be a good traveler, but #2 or #3 might not. It could get very stressful dragging little ones all over the South. I think their family size will largely be determined by how well they handle this next baby. 

Right now it seems like Carlin can barely handle Layla by herself so I think another child will be overwhelming. But I think they will keep on having babies until Evan gets his boy.

[GeeGolly]

After the comment on Layla's summer attire, she was all of a sudden dressed in fall clothes. I guess she doesn't sweat that much. lol

[floridamom]

Yes, I agree if your child is sweating, you're over bundling them up. Layers are the best IMO. You then can see if they are too hot; remove the sweater/jacket, etc. It's not rocket science but I guess Carlin never "studied rocket science". These two parents seem to lack common sense. I also think that her husband is spreading himself too thin. Is church necessary on Wednesdays? The guy doesn't have time to take a much needed nap. These girls, being that they have never worked a day in their lives, do not know what is involved in going to work and school, etc. These husbands all seem to be overworked/overscheduled  IMO.

[Dehumidifier]

19 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

After the comment on Layla's summer attire, she was all of a sudden dressed in fall clothes. I guess she doesn't sweat that much. lol

We've gone from t-shirts to jackets in the NYC area the last few days too! 

Edited October 20, 2021 by Dehumidifier

[GeeGolly]

Just now, Dehumidifier said:

We've gone from t-shirts to jackets in the NYC area that last few days too! 

We have too, in New England... well, depending on the time of day. We haven't had any days yet that have been cold enough to need a coat the entire day. Anyway, Layla's change in clothing was the day (and days) after someone commented. And "always cold when pregnant" Carlin was without a coat and Evan was in short sleeves.

Its okay, at least Carlin gets it now. 

[Dehumidifier]

5 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Evan was in short sleeves.

 

Young guys around here wear shorts in April, maybe even March if it's over 40 degrees. Can't judge by him.

[GeeGolly]

3 minutes ago, Dehumidifier said:

Young guys around here wear shorts in April, maybe even March if it's over 40 degrees. Can't judge by him.

Just guys? Around here, during spring and fall, there's always folks, both male and female, in shorts when I think its too cold.

Evan had long sleeves and jackets on in some pictures, so I'm guessing he mostly dresses for the weather.

[Dehumidifier]

3 hours ago, floridamom said:

I also think that her husband is spreading himself too thin. Is church necessary on Wednesdays? The guy doesn't have time to take a much needed nap. These girls, being that they have never worked a day in their lives, do not know what is involved in going to work and school, etc. These husbands all seem to be overworked/overscheduled  IMO.

The way she described their schedule made me shocked that they were so anxious to have another kid so soon. He's out a lot, working and going to classes at night and she's home alone with the kid a lot. 

[ozziemom]

Here in Florida we’re in shorts all year long. Ozziedad struggles to ever put on long pants, even to church. Back to Carlin, she really dresses Layla in some strange outfits, I guess the jeans with rips are trendy? And poor Izzy. The dog just got back home and the Stewart’s went on vacation. Now they are off to a wedding. Why they even have a dog is a mystery.

[Dehumidifier]

1 hour ago, ozziemom said:

Back to Carlin, she really dresses Layla in some strange outfits, I guess the jeans with rips are trendy?

The top was weird. It appeared to be a tube top with a skirt overlay that stuck out. It was black and white and didn't go well with the blue jeans. I don't think Carlin has great taste in clothing for herself either. Maybe wearing dresses her whole life deprived her of the ability to match up separates.

[GeeGolly]

I wonder how Carlin feels about Lexi and Brooklyn being flower girls for Nathan, and Willow for Katie? I get that Layla is young, but Willow isn't much older than her.

[sheshark]

Oh Evan in your all black outfit and lines in your hair.  So street. 🙄

[BitterApple]

6 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I wonder how Carlin feels about Lexi and Brooklyn being flower girls for Nathan, and Willow for Katie? I get that Layla is young, but Willow isn't much older than her.

I get the vibe Esther thinks Carlin and Katie are annoying as hell, and wants to limit her interactions with them. Notice the Bates grands in the wedding belonged to the sisters with the low-key personalities (Josie, Erin, Alyssa). 

[moonchild81]

layla is going to be flower girl for katie

[SMama]

37 minutes ago, moonchild81 said:

layla is going to be flower girl for katie

I thought it was Willow. 

[3 is enough]

Willow is as well.  I think Layla was added later.

[curbcrusher]

So the Stewart's went on vacation with his family to Branson. There's a youtube video, and somewhere around 7 mins they are eating a place that has big pancakes. As they go on and on about how big the pancakes are, Evan delivers the line "Carlin's dad would have come and got two pancakes to feed all the kids back in the day."

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[cereality]

Don't Carlin and Whit ever get sick of each other? Carlin said on an IG that she and Evan have been staying at G&K's house since returning from Pa/NJ since G&K are in Italy and Z&W are staying there too bc apparently their house isn't liveable during the current phase of reno. Ok so maybe it makes sense for Z&W to stay there for a week and knock out demolition or something w/o their kids breathing in the fumes, but then Carlin and Evan need to stay there too to turn it into a college dorm every night? And maybe it's under the guise of "taking care of the kids" but come on we know Carlin is way too irresponsible for that anyway and barely knows her younger brothers' names; she basically grabs her own kid when she rolls out of bed and heads to the store; you know Addie and Callie are dealing with the other kids and if they need an assist, I bet Michaela comes over. They may be glad Z is there bc apparently he's cooking for everyone.

But seriously you're grownups with your own home, marriage, and kid and you've been with your family since like last Wed when you hopped in the RV to all ride to Pa together. 9 days later + seeing Whit at work too -- aren't you tired of each other?? Don't you want to just go home and not have to make conversation!? What else is there to even to say to each other?

Edited October 30, 2021 by cereality

[65mickey]

Carlin and Evans lastest instagram post about Layla's visit to the doctor for blood tests shows just how immature they are. At Layla's last pediatrician's visit it was recommended that she have further tests to determine if there is an underlying condition causing her to be so small for her age. Carlin is giving the details of the visit to the lab for the blood work. She said that they took 4 vials of blood and she and Evan are laughing about it because Layla had no idea why thery were doing this.  If Layla were my child I would be concerned about the results of these tests and for the trauma that Layla experienced having her blood drawn. But no they are more concerned about getting a post  on instagram and being funny.

[BitterApple]

Layla's had a rough start. It certainly doesn't help that her parents are morons who drag her around like a stuffed animal and don't feed her a proper diet. I hope they figure out what's going on. 

[cereality]

Yeah that video 100% shows who they are and where their priorities are at. They posted a YT video 4-5 weeks ago about being sent to Childrens' for bloodwork (didn't watch it but they said it in the previews) - they're just NOW getting around to it?? But I guess there was also a Stew Family vacation, RV trip to Nathan's wedding and associated wedding prep drama, wedding, Katie's baby shower, and the sleepover at G&K's house for the last week until they finally get around to it on a Saturday. And now Carlin is posting about planning a gender reveal party, so clearly they're chilling tonight.

Most parents would be very concerned about this (but nah their big concern was they had to take 4 "vowels" of blood and Evan was like she won't have any blood left - WTF dude?!) AND parents of kids with a known heart issue would be even more worried; often if the heart isn't functioning effectively in a little kid, lack height/weight gain is a tip off bc so much energy is going into cardiac function that they don't grow as they should. IDK if she is small for her age, maybe height-wise - she certainly doesn't look like she's grown taller as you keep seeing Josie's older kid getting thinner and taller. But I do wonder if this is why Carlin keeps her on a 100% junk diet; though usually if you're trying to get a kid to grow I don't think you focus on cake pops, donuts, or Doritos as much as avocados, nuts/peanut butter if allowed, eggs cooked in butter or olive oil etc.

Edited October 31, 2021 by cereality

[BitterApple]

Is it possible Layla's just a small kid? Carlin is only 5'2" or 5'3". Evan looks like he's barely 5'6." I don't think there's a Bates male who hits six feet, let alone surpasses it. I didn't have the patience to sit through Carlin's video. Are the doctors concerned about her height or the fact that her growth rate is lagging? 

[SMama]

53 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Is it possible Layla's just a small kid? Carlin is only 5'2" or 5'3". Evan looks like he's barely 5'6." I don't think there's a Bates male who hits six feet, let alone surpasses it. I didn't have the patience to sit through Carlin's video. Are the doctors concerned about her height or the fact that her growth rate is lagging? 

From Carlin’s explanation it seems doctors are concerned about the lag in growth. I didn’t think much of it until a poster compared 8 months old Maci and 20 months old Layla. OTOH while Alyssa is smaller than Carlin, John is a freaking giant. I hope Layla is OK, just like my micro preemie girl. Hopefully Evan and Carlin will mature and manage Layla’s health with the seriousness it merits.

[cereality]

Watched just that part of the YT video from a month ago (bc I wasn't going to sit thru Evan and Trav getting pedicures) and Carlin explained that the dr. said her growth was falling off; she's growing but slower than before, so she wants to see if something is going on. The dr. apparently did account for the fact that both E&C are small so their kid will be too. But the change in the growth curve is what they look for. And then Carlin also said she eats 24-7 - so maybe the dr finds that surprising. This was the drs. visit where Carlin felt it ok to feed this kid chicken nuggets in the exam room sitting on the table that 8000 other kids sat on that day. 

Things must be rough for Carlin & Evan when dealing with drs. with so little command of the English language. At the drs. office it was the dr said - her growth is "staggered." In this IG - her growth is "stagnating." Pretty sure it's stagnating, yet IDK if they know the difference between those 2 words. I mean in general it's hard to understand what medical people are talking about but with these 2 and their logic, reasoning and vocab . . . .

It is interesting that Whit's 3rd kid and Layla are only 2 months apart; Layla is only 2 months younger and looks much more baby-ish if you look at recent pics from the wedding; granted Z&W's kid is going to be bigger bc Z&W are bigger but she just seems "older."

This kid has had a rough start. Too late now but you'd wish that her parents would have waited to get knocked up again and instead focused on her a bit with her cardiac stuff, now this etc. and THEN when she's maybe ~3+, make the next baby. But nah gotta get that boy ASAP and with that of course attention is already split. Carlin has her own high risk appts; Carlin will have to do a shot regime for 1-2 months post delivery; newborns have a lot of routine appts; and no way is Carlin giving up one more second than necessary paling around with Whit at the store and at sleepovers at G&K's house (fun fact - last months video's also mentions a sleepover then - WTF!?). Maybe Layla can just make herself some scrambled eggs in good oils to get herself back on the growth curve.

[GeeGolly]

Wow, Carlin and Evan waited a month to follow through on the blood tests? That's crazy.

Kids usually have a steady growth curve. If they're small they would be say, in the 30% weight, 25% height, on the growth chart and pretty much remain in the same percentile as they grow. If they're tiny they could be 'out of' the growth chart and be below 10%.

With the exception of Allie Jane, I would guess all of the grandchildren are below the 50% mark, or at least none, except Allie, are above it.

Dropping in percentile is not the norm and usually means something is up. I hope if there is a problem with Layla, its nothing serious.

 

[cereality]

They waited like 5-6 weeks to get bloodwork done - bc the YT videos aren't live, they're usually posted a week or so after the event. Carlin walked out of the drs office and with the dramatic tears in her eyes did the - it breaks my mama heart that she has to get blood drawn; and then went on about how Evan has to go with Carlin bc she can't handle needles/blood and he'll be able to go bc Childrens' has Saturday appointments. My guess is they were like when we can get a Sat appointment that does not interrupt even 1 hr of our fun Oct. schedule, we'll do it.

Bc in the same video (though before the drs.) she goes on about how Oct is sooo booked bc she has to go to Fla to "help" Katie pick up her dress; a Stew Family vacation; Nathan's wedding; all the made by shenanigans leading up to the wedding; Katie's NJ shower; and then of course sleeping over at G&K's house for a WEEK after the wedding paling around with Whit; sleeping over at G&K's house bc Travis came for a visit (uh he's not YOUR fiance and who cares he visits all the time)!? Mind you ALL of these events besides Fla were driving events. This is YOUR KID'S HEALTH. You really can't tell the Bates or Stewart families that you're going to arrive late/leave early for one stupid event bc this is when Evan has time off and you need to use some of that time to get to the lab at Childrens when it still open, so sorry we'll see you this evening instead of this afternoon!? Evan has taken time off this month on weekdays - couldn't schedule an 8 am appt for Layla on a day you had already taken off AND THEN leave to drive to your dumb family vacation in Missouri?? And honestly in most families one parent would have just sucked it up and taken her - yes no one likes to see their kid cry but as the ADULT you understand why it's important!?

Edited October 31, 2021 by cereality

[Jeanne222]

Does anybody happen to have a picture of Layla with a cousin close in age.  I didn't really follow along until Carlin was nice enough to show Nathan jumping out of an airplane on his wedding day and falling in a tree.  Now I'm reading about little Layla.  Sigh.