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This event was held live yesterday at the Los Angeles Air Force Base with an audience made up of (carefully socially-distanced) military members of the Space and Missile Systems Center - virtual appearances by producers and cast (including AM, SS, EVC) and additional guest appearances from stars of WandaVision, Hawkeye and Loki...

Virtual Launch Event | Marvel Studios' The Falcon and The Winter Soldier | Disney+
Marvel Entertainment    Mar 18, 2021


More reviews of the first episode...

'The Falcon and the Winter Soldier': TV Review
Daniel Fienberg    March 18, 2021
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-tv-review

‘The Falcon and the Winter Soldier’ Recap: Lost in America
By Noel Murray   March 19, 2021
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/19/arts/television/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-recap.html

'Falcon and the Winter Soldier' review: High praise to Anthony Mackie, kudos to Sebastian Stan
Peter Travers    March 19, 2021
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/falcon-winter-soldier-review-high-praise-anthony-mackie/story?id=76468536

‘The Falcon and the Winter Soldier’ Premiere Recap: A Broken World
Alan Sepinwall    March 19, 2021
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-recaps/falcon-winter-soldier-disney-premiere-recap-1143274/

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Is More Sturdy Product From the Marvel Machine
By Jen Chaney   March 19, 2021
https://www.vulture.com/article/the-falcon-and-winter-soldier-review-marvel-disney.html

The Falcon and The Winter Soldier: Season 1, Episode 1 Review
By Matt Purslow  March 19, 2021
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-season-1-episode-1-review 

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Episode 1 Recap: Captain America Is Forever
By Akhil Arora   March 19, 2021
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/entertainment/reviews/falcon-winter-soldier-episode-1-review-captain-america-new-download-watch-online-2394260

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier episode one recap: is the world ready for a black Captain America?
Andy Welch   March 19, 2021
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/mar/19/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-episode-one-recap-is-the-world-ready-for-a-black-captain-america 

Falcon and the Winter Soldier Series Premiere Review (Full Spoilers)
By mrcrockpot - March 19, 2021
https://thepaintedlines.com/falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-series-premiere-review-full-spoilers/

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier begins to take Marvel's world-building to a new level
Brendan Morrow     March 19, 2021
https://theweek.com/articles/972750/falcon-winter-soldier-begins-take-marvels-worldbuilding-new-level
 

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The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Featurette 1 -Time (Sam and Bucky)
Marvel Entertainment      Mar 19, 2021

Anthony Mackie and Sebastian Stan Sing Their Dream Theme Songs and Roast Tom Holland
IMDb    Mar 19, 2021


‘The Falcon and the Winter Soldier’ Director Kari Skogland Breaks Down That Final Scene
By Kate Aurthur   Mar 19, 2021
https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-kari-skogland-final-scene-spoilers-1234934708/

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Skogland talked about that scene, and said it was especially important how the government official introduced the new Captain America, using nationalistic language: “We need heroes who are relatable; we need heroes who are from this planet,” Skogland paraphrased.

The Defense Department spokesman says: “While we love heroes who put their lives on the line to defend Earth, we also need a hero to defend this country,” he says.

Extolling the decision to replace Steve, he continues: “We need a real person who embodies America’s greatest values. We need someone to inspire us again.” 

“They had gone in, and obviously done exactly what Sam was hoping that they wouldn’t,” Skogland told Variety. “The shield belongs to Steve. It belongs to that time.”

Obviously, the government’s decision — which Sam feels is wrong and rash, as you can see from the anguish in Mackie’s face — will cause him to rethink that opinion.

“What does it represent? What is its relevance?” Skogland asked.
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“We were always telling a racially charged exploration of what it was for a Black man to pick up the shield,” she said.

As far as shooting the scene in which Walker is introduced, he appears on the steps to enthusiastic applause, wielding the shield and waving to the crowd. He looks down at the camera, and the final shot is him winking.

“I wanted to hero-ise,” Skogland said about how we can’t really make out Russell’s face behind the mask. “Lots of low angles and and sneaky imagery, so that you just about get him — you don’t quite get him.”

“You’re trying to find out, Who is this guy?” she added
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The new (interloper?) Captain America will bring the title characters together, it seems. “Sam and Bucky will have a really interesting interaction as they go through their adventure about just that — what the shield means to each one of them for different reasons,” Skogland said.


Emily VanCamp Dishes on What MCU Fans Can Expect From 'The Falcon and the Winter Solider'
BY KAYLA KEEGAN Mar 19, 2021
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/amp35746395/emily-vancamp-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-spoilers/

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As for Sharon, her own character, fans may be surprised to see a new version of her emerge. After the agent faded to dust following Thanos (Josh Brolin)'s snap in Avengers: Infinity War, Sharon is coming into this series as a different person — someone who isn't quite as idealistic as she once was.
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"When we see her now, she's a little rough around the edges. She's been on the run, she's had to take care of herself, she mentions that in Civil War that she has to disappear for a little while, and I think here we get a little sense of what she's been up to and how she's had to fend for herself and make her own way in this new world," Emily reveals. "It's a very, very different Sharon ... You can imagine that there's a little bitterness there."

She continues to clarify that her "bitterness" is derived from surviving in a challenging world after disappearing, not so much from her lack of closure with Steve Rogers (Chris Evans), who decides to travel back to 1949 to be with Sharon's great aunt Peggy at the end of Avengers: Endgame. According to Emily, that lack of closure is "never addressed," though it could possibly feed into Sharon's outlook in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

"Would I say there's a ton of closure for Sharon? No, not really," she declares. "But then again, does anyone ever get closure in these movies and TV shows?"


Falcon and the Winter Soldier Debuts With Impressive Rotten Tomatoes Score
By JAMIE JIRAK - March 19, 2021
https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-debuts-impressive-rotten-tomatoes-score/

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The Falcon and the Winter Soldier finally premiered on Disney+ today and fans are eager to see where the show goes from here. The premiere has been met with positive reviews so far. In fact, ComicBook.com's own Charlie Ridgely gave the first episode a 4 out of 5 and called it "a promising new direction" for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The series is up on Rotten Tomatoes with an impressive critics score. Currently, the show has a 93% after 106 reviews. The show's audience score is slightly lower, however, coming in at 79% after 383 reviews.

 

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I don't know about this show specifically, but according to an EW article from 2019 ratings for streaming services are tracked by 'accounts watched' and 'unique views'. A pool of Nielsen families is used to collect data about how many people in the household watched, how long they watched, etc. If it's anything like the situation for WandaVision, where so many people were trying to access the site at once that it crashed for a bit, I'd say they're pretty good for a premiere.

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Disney owns me, utterly and completely!  I'm a Star Wars fangirl from the 1980s. Then I became an X-Men fan (which finally will be under the Marvel umbrella!), and I've been an MCU fan since the first Iron Man movie. Thus, I've watched and will watch all the various SW/MCU tv shows...

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4 hours ago, norcalgal said:

Disney owns me, utterly and completely!  I'm a Star Wars fangirl from the 1980s. Then I became an X-Men fan (which finally will be under the Marvel umbrella!), and I've been an MCU fan since the first Iron Man movie. Thus, I've watched and will watch all the various SW/MCU tv shows...

Disney don't own Transformers yet, so at least a part of my childhood (and a big part) remains outside their umbrella. But it honestly doesn't bother me that much. Mega-corporations are a reality of the modern world (and of most dystopian fiction) and we all have to get used to it, unless it can somehow be changed.

As long as Disney never buy DC and combine their comic book properties. That would be an appalling idea.

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More reviews of the first episode...

THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER FIRST REVIEWS: DELIVERS 'STELLAR' ACTION ALONG WITH BIG EMOTIONS AND SURPRISING DEPTH
Aaron Pruner   March 18, 2021
https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-first-reviews/

'The Falcon and the Winter Soldier' shows Marvel's 'WandaVision' wasn't a blip
Brian Lowry    March 18, 2021
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/18/entertainment/falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-review/index.html

Despite some inventive action, The Falcon And The Winter Soldier premiere is stuck in the past
Sulagna Misra     March 19, 2021
https://tv.avclub.com/despite-some-inventive-action-the-falcon-and-the-winte-1846512142 

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier review: MCU returns to epic thriller territory
Sean Keane   March 18, 2021
https://www.cnet.com/news/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-spoiler-free-review-mcu-returns-to-epic-thriller-territory-on-disney-plus/

‘Falcon And The Winter Soldier’ Review: Thanks, I Hate Him
Paul Tassi  March 19, 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/03/19/falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-review-thanks-i-hate-him/?sh=630e7de64192

‘The Falcon and the Winter Soldier’ review: Does the first episode fly?
Michael Phillips    March 19, 2021
https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/michael-phillips/sc-ent-falcon-winter-soldier-disney-review-0319-20210319-s5wwyohp6zbttlipubrtvbclgi-story.html

Television Review: 'Falcon and Winter Soldier' more than a Marvel buddy story
Julien Wulfgar For the Daily Nonpareil    March 25, 2021
https://nonpareilonline.com/entertainment/television/television-review-falcon-and-winter-soldier-more-than-a-marvel-buddy-story/article_166dc0ae-8d50-5804-8302-8aebdae2a238.html

I like this promo for some reason...

Power | Marvel Studios' The Falcon and The Winter Soldier | Disney+
Marvel Entertainment   Mar 20, 2021

Righteous | Marvel Studios' The Falcon and The Winter Soldier | Disney+
Marvel Entertainment   Mar 18, 2021

Action | Marvel Studios' The Falcon and The Winter Soldier | Disney+
Marvel Entertainment  Mar 21, 2021

 

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I want to see the deleted scenes...

Falcon and the Winter Soldier director Kari Skogland on "pushing the envelope" at Marvel
BY DAVID OPIE    MARCH 21, 2021
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a35842403/falcon-winter-soldier-easter-eggs-deleted-scenes-kari-skogland/

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Of course, it's inevitable that some scenes will always end up on the cutting-room floor, no matter how much you might want to keep them in. "There were plenty that I would have loved to have had, or different ways to take a scene. That’s just the nature of the creative process."

But what did get cut, exactly? Is there a lost version of the premiere that fans need to see? Thankfully, it doesn't sound like we'll be campaigning Marvel to #ReleaseTheSkoglandCut anytime soon. "What I can say is that there’s nothing on the floor that felt like it was a game-changer. So there’s nothing that I go, 'Oh!', lamenting. Truthfully, everything that is great, is in there," Kari promises.

And that includes a number of improvised scenes which strayed from the original script. "We did a fair bit of ad lib – because we were finding characters a little bit. When you’re exploring character, you kind of want to let everybody out of the box, and go, 'Let’s try this, and let’s go down this lane, and shake it up' or 'let’s say nothing'."
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When asked for specifics, Kari reveals that certain moments on the dock were improvised — "there's a bit of back and forth there" — and Bucky's therapy scene also included a surprising amount of ad lib too. "Sebastian’s lovely at throwing in some lines here and there."

But improvised or not, Kari says, "Almost every scene has something in it that came from the heart and soul." Even the Easter eggs are included "organically", ensuring that story and character always come first.

"You never create a scene around the Easter egg," says Kari. "The Easter egg is always just, 'Oh, there’s an opportunity for something that the fans will enjoy if they can spot it'. It’s fun, because it doesn’t drive anything. It’s quite the opposite."


A panel of doctors (psychologists, therapists, social worker) psychoanalyzed the first episode of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier...

THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER PSYCH BREAKDOWN | SAT, MARCH 20TH | 4PM PT, 7PM ET
Wizard World    Streamed live on Mar 20, 2021


More from Spellman and Skogland...

‘Falcon and the Winter Soldier': There’s More to Bucky’s Odd Friendship Than You Think
Tim Baysinger    March 19, 2021
https://www.thewrap.com/falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-bucky-yori/ 

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In the MCU, Bucky has gone from World War II-era war buddy of Captain America to being a brainwashed assassin for decades, to hiding out in Wakanda to “fix” his messed-up brain, to being Blipped away for five years. “The Falcon and the Winter Soldier” begins with him during a rare moment of peace, and it’s spotlighting just how screwed up he must be after so much trauma.

And as Spellman points out, he’s never had any kind of life despite being “alive” for more than century.

“The other thing we want to explore with Bucky is the fact that he’s 106, and the fact that he’s never been present mentally in one era long enough to even be identified,” Spellman said. “He’s completely at sea with the times no matter when it exists.”

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier’ Creators How the Show Will Focus on ‘Identity’
Entertainment Tonight  Mar 20, 2021

 

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Falcon and the Winter Soldier Cast Teases Sam and Bucky in Crisis | TVLine
TVLine   Mar 20, 2021

'The Falcon and The Winter Soldier' Writer Malcom Spellman Breaks Down the First Episode
Variety   Mar 22, 2021

Anthony Mackie & Sebastian Stan The Falcon and The Winter Soldier Interview
DE PELICULA   Mar 22, 2021

 

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6 hours ago, AnimeMania said:

Falcon and Winter Soldier Debut Is Disney+'s Most Watched Series

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier premiere beat WandaVision and The Mandalorian as the most-watched Disney+ original series for its opening weekend.

That is not that big a deal since the Disney+ membership has grown so much larger since those shows first aired.

Wow!  But I'm actually not surprised.  The Mandalorian wasn't hyped nearly as much before its premiere (at least not that I noticed), and it may have been the first big show for Disney+?  I bet there are a ton of people like me - I'm not a Star Wars fan, I knew nothing about the show nor had Disney+ at the time of its premiere... but then I saw the phenomenon that is Baby Yoda on social media, and within a few weeks I subscribed and binge watched the first several episodes.  The rest, as they say, is history.  💸💸💸

The Mandalorian put Disney+ on the map, and then the pandemic really helped.  I'm not sure we can say they've gained too many more memberships since WandaVision premiered though, since that was only 2 months ago?  But maybe! 

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Who Will Chris Evans Text First, Anthony Mackie or Sebastian Stan? - Stir Crazy with Josh Horowitz
Comedy Central   Mar 23, 2021

Anthony Mackie, Sebastian Stan on Falcon and Winter Soldier ideas they'd cooked up
Hindustan Times   Mar 24, 2021

Sebastian Stan Says Anthony Mackie Struggles with Social Distancing
Late Night with Seth Meyers   Mar 24, 2021

Winter Soldier AKA Sebastian Stan on His Dating Bio, Budgies and Much More | Good Morning Britain
Good Morning Britain   Mar 23, 2021

 

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Poor guy. But I don't think the actor will get much hate here, at least I'd hope not. Especially when it becomes clear that he's not actually going to be Captain America for very long.

Looking at that picture, I think I see more of his mother in him than his father.

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37 minutes ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

Without the mask, he doesn't look quite so dorky.

I think the mask is great costume design. I suspect they made it unflattering on purpose. His ears stick out, the brow on it makes it look like he has small, squinty eyes and the chinstrap emphasizes and jawline that doesn't need emphasis into a caricature.

 

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Yum...


Clips from recent interview with SiriusXM's The Jess Cagle Podcast with Julia Cunningham...

Are Anthony Mackie & Sebastian Stan Actually as Close as They Seem?
SiriusXM   Mar 23, 2021

Anthony Mackie & Sebastian Stan are Competing with Tom Holland and 'Loki'
SiriusXM   Mar 23, 2021

Anthony Mackie Just Learned What 'Easter Eggs' Are
SiriusXM   Mar 23, 2021

Anthony Mackie Has a Crush on Jamie Lee Curtis
SiriusXM   Mar 23, 2021

Anthony Mackie Still Wants to Crash on Sebastian Stan's Couch
SiriusXM   Mar 24, 2021


New interview with Miki Ishikawa...

INTERVIEW – MARVEL’S ‘THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER’ STAR MIKI ISHIKAWA
By Ron Seoul-Oh    March 24, 2021
https://pocculture.com/interview-marvels-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-star-miki-ishikawa/ 

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POC Culture: You’ve been cast in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Is there anything you’re allowed to say?
Miki Ishikawa:
Oooh what can I say? Watch it when it comes out! Laughing. I really don’t know what I can say. Obviously there’s a lot of speculation as to who I’m playing and who I am. People will just have to see!

POC Culture: How does it feel to be part of the Marvel Universe? It’s THE franchise to be in right now right?
Miki Ishikawa:
It’s everyone’s dream right? I definitely FREAKED out. Laughing. I definitely freaked out for sure. And Marvel is very secretive of everything so I didn’t know anything going into it.

POC Culture: Did you even know you were going in for a Marvel role?
Miki Ishikawa:
I knew that but I didn’t know for what or with who. Everything’s fake, so I had no context. I just knew what the scene was and that’s it. I didn’t know anything else. Which is hard. I just used as much imagination as I could. So even I’m excited to see what it’s all gonna look like!

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Continuation Featurette | Marvel Studios' The Falcon and The Winter Soldier | Disney+
Marvel Entertainment   Mar 25, 2021


Here's audio of The A.V. Club (AVC)’s podcast, Push The Envelope, with showrunner Malcolm Spellman and director Kari Skogland. The podcast host is AVC's Editor-in-Chief Patrick Gomez and the interviewer is AVC's Executive Producer Marah Eakin. If you want to skip the SAG Awards discussion, fast forward to around the 17.45 mark - I transcribed some, but not all, comments...

Marvel's The Falcon And The Winter Soldier team. Plus, who will win 2021 SAG Awards for TV?
Push The Envelope: Unfiltered Conversations With And About Hollywood   March 25, 2021
https://art19.com/shows/push-the-envelope-unfiltered-conversations-with-and-about-hollywood/episodes/14d18f5c-ced6-4f54-a755-1669ee619283 

-- Malcolm Spellman: "Sam is a black man and, as we go home with him, you see he's really from the struggle. And so, there's no way he could just in good faith take on that symbol, because it means something very different in his hands than it does Steve Rogers."

-- Malcolm Spellman: "For the Bucky character, it was so obvious what we were going to have to tackle. That was almost a treat because this dude has not been in his right mind for almost a hundred years, being he's 106 years old, which means he does not fit into this era and never even had an opportunity to fit into any other era, 'cause he was being manipulated. But obviously first and foremost, the volume of people he's killed, including, you know, people in Stark's family. And we have this line in the series where - I can't remember if it's in the first episode, but somewhere in the series he says, when someone's trying to make an excuse, "Well, you were being manipulated, you had no way of knowing," he said, "No, I remember every one." Which means, he believes, a part of him was there and present. And if that's the case, isn't he the monster that HYDRA made him out to be? So, yeah, he's got a lot to deal with and, as you see, we brought it into his face in a very, very personal and direct way."

-- AVC's Marah Eakin: "Beyond just Falcon and Winter Soldier, you also got to use some characters from the previous Marvel table-setting for you, like Sharon Carter and Zemo and a few, you know, a few unnamed others. Who were you sort of most excited, as a writer, to like have back and sort of figure out?"
Malcolm Spellman: "I'll tell you who surprised me the most, which was Zemo, in that how human he became in this series. But the character that turned into the most fun was Sharon Carter, because Emily [Van Camp] has such a baby face, you know what I'm saying? And looks very, very sweet and innocent. But Sharon Carter is going to emerge as a badass, like, I’d have to use far more inappropriate language to describe how awesome she is. You know what I'm saying? Let’s just say this: Sharon Carter is all grown up now... I guess what made it so fun was, we started in Civil War, and you just factor in what would have naturally happened between Civil War and now, and now you got a whole different Sharon Carter showing up."

-- AVC's Marah Eakin: "In some ways, the Avengers are 'law enforcement,' like, they are enforcing laws. In other ways, they’re sort of like the best version of law enforcement. And what we're seeing in the show, in part, is like sort of when many hands get involved, the [unintelligible word-shit?] gets mucked up. How do you sort of view the line of like where superheroes are in terms of being the protectors of what’s right and what’s wrong?"
Malcolm Spellman: "It's funny. I mean, the Zemo character is going to lend a lot of voice to that. And you can see what he thinks of it. And obviously, all of us are sort of channeled through him a little bit, in that Zemo sees all of them as supremacists. And he thinks that people who are endowed with abilities that are extraordinary, like law enforcement or, in this case, heroes, right, are inherently going to abuse their power. And he has damn good reason to think that. You know what I'm saying? They destroyed his country by using his city as a bomb and killed his entire family, along with everyone, you know, he knew. So Zemo sees himself as a hero in this series, and we wanted him to be able to speak to his motivation in a way that even the audience and sometimes the heroes themselves have to nod their head and be like, 'He's right.'"

-- Kari Skogland: "Yeah, looking at consequences... He [Bucky] left behind him a trail of victims... There's collateral damage. So what does that look like? And what does that feel like for a guy who has to cope with, you know, what it is to go forward? Because he's going to have to do some healing in order to be able to find some relevance for his future, um, and where he sits as a result of his past."

Related article:
The Falcon And The Winter Soldier showrunner teases Sharon Carter's evolution and Zemo's motives
Patrick Gomez    March 25, 2021
https://tv.avclub.com/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-showrunner-teases-sha-1846540654 

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1 hour ago, tv echo said:

I mean, the Zemo character is going to lend a lot of voice to that. And you can see what he thinks of it. And obviously, all of us are sort of channeled through him a little bit, in that Zemo sees all of them as supremacists. And he thinks that people who are endowed with abilities that are extraordinary, like law enforcement or, in this case, heroes, right, are inherently going to abuse their power. And he has damn good reason to think that. You know what I'm saying? They destroyed his country by using his city as a bomb and killed his entire family, along with everyone, you know, he knew. So Zemo sees himself as a hero in this series, and we wanted him to be able to speak to his motivation in a way that even the audience and sometimes the heroes themselves have to nod their head and be like, 'He's right.'"

Re: this portion of the quote...isn't it about seeing things from one's own POV?  Zemo has justification to view the Avengers as a danger to society but conversely, wouldn't someone whose life/family was saved by the Avengers view them diametrically opposite from Zemo?  So will the converse viewpoint (pro-Avengers) be represented as well?  Or is the audience being herded into thinking only Zemo's view is valid?

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I love how much Malcolm Spellman loves Sharon Carter in this show, but what I would love more is to actually see it for myself. There are only four episodes left, give me Sharon!

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3 hours ago, norcalgal said:

Re: this portion of the quote...isn't it about seeing things from one's own POV?  Zemo has justification to view the Avengers as a danger to society but conversely, wouldn't someone whose life/family was saved by the Avengers view them diametrically opposite from Zemo?  So will the converse viewpoint (pro-Avengers) be represented as well?  Or is the audience being herded into thinking only Zemo's view is valid?

Zemo used this justification to do... the exact same thing he accused the Avengers of doing: killing innocent people in collateral damage. But the Avengers were at least trying to save people while Zemo did it for revenge. They can “humanize” him all they want, he’s still a piece of shit. Don’t try to redeem him unless he dies in the process show. Just don’t.

3 hours ago, Abra said:

I love how much Malcolm Spellman loves Sharon Carter in this show, but what I would love more is to actually see it for myself. There are only four episodes left, give me Sharon!

SERIOUSLY! She’d better be in the next episode.

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7 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

Zemo used this justification to do... the exact same thing he accused the Avengers of doing: killing innocent people in collateral damage. But the Avengers were at least trying to save people while Zemo did it for revenge. They can “humanize” him all they want, he’s still a piece of shit. Don’t try to redeem him unless he dies in the process show. Just don’t.

Except this goes directly to Steve's willingness to throw his much-vaunted principles into the garbage to save Bucky, and also to Bucky's tremendous guilt for all the things he did as the Winter Solider. In the end, it wasn't about the Accords or whether or not the Avengers sometimes did more harm than good, particularly since Tony was usually directly involved in whatever went wrong. It was about Steve not caring who got killed as long as Bucky was safe, and I think that just adds to his burden now, that he still doesn't think he's worth all this. You're right about Zemo, but I will give the little bastard that his end run around the Avengers instead of going directly at them was shittily brilliant.

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On 3/26/2021 at 7:31 AM, tv echo said:

AVC's Marah Eakin: "Beyond just Falcon and Winter Soldier, you also got to use some characters from the previous Marvel table-setting for you, like Sharon Carter and Zemo and a few, you know, a few unnamed others.

What unnamed others? Very curious. I know better than to get excited about anyone, but it would be nice for some pleasant surprises.

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I honestly can't imagine anyone other than Chris Evans playing Steve Rogers, just like I can't imagine anyone other than RDJ playing Tony Stark...

More about that audition to play Steve Rogers...

Wyatt Russell's Captain America Audition Didn't Go So Well
theoffcamerashow    Mar 24, 2021


I am probably being overcautious in using spoiler tags below...

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier's Wyatt Russell on how his Captain America differs from Steve Rogers
By Nick Romano    March 26, 2021
https://ew.com/tv/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-wyatt-russell-how-john-walker-captain-america-differs-from-steve-rogers/ 

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"What I thought was interesting about John is that Steve was a soldier from a different era. They're both soldiers from different eras, and the era of John is very different than the era of Steve," Russell explains to EW. "The type of military men who are going to Iraq and Afghanistan was different because the time was different, and the grey area now, you see everything. Everything's filmed. There's a much different way of fighting now. You go in guns blazing first and ask questions later."
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While Steve's internal compass was directed by moral and ethical obligations — "fighting for something more than just getting the job done," as Russell puts it — John is more of a company man with the company being the United States military.

"John's the type of guy who's like, 'Look, you want me to do the job? I will finish the job for you,'" Russell says. "Sometimes that might require things in the grey areas where you are not comfortable but I am, and I need to be able to do my job."

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That dichotomy between the legacy of Steve's Cap and John stepping into this role results in an internal struggle for the newly minted hero. It's a question of identity, which trickles down to all the characters, including Anthony Mackie's Sam Wilson and Sebastian Stan's Bucky Barnes.

There are questions of, "Who am I in this suit?" Russell elaborates. "What does it mean to me? What does it mean to the people watching?"

"Everybody has this idea of imposter syndrome to a degree, like even Sam at the beginning," he adds. "[Sam] didn't necessarily feel comfortable with being Captain America. He didn't feel right. Everybody deals with those things differently. So, it's a big difference between this guy [John] and Steve. He's a little bit more of a [jump in] head first type guy."

In terms of how John fits into the rest of the story, Russell calls him "a wrench that gets thrown into the whole deal." Sam, he remarks, is on a "hero's journey" and getting to the point where he's "a fully realized person." "I'm an obstacle in that," he says.

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Russell didn't watch any of the past Marvel movies until he landed the role, either. When he finally did, he realized why Evans was so good as Captain America.

"It's next to an impossible job as far as I'm concerned," Russell says. "You're trying to be a character who's perfect. Then playing against that, of trying to be a character who's perfect but feels like he's not at all, he did an unreal job of towing that line."

 

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Friends | Marvel Studios' The Falcon and The Winter Soldier | Disney+
Marvel Entertainment    Mar 27, 2021


Rovazzi intervista Sebastian Stan e Anthony Mackie (Falcon and the winter soldier spot)
Jungle Studios    Mar 26, 2021


The Falcon and The Winter Soldier reveals song from upcoming soundtrack
By Amelia Emberwing   March 26, 2021
https://www.gamesradar.com/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-reveals-song-from-upcoming-soundtrack/

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Louisiana Hero, which plays over the end credits of each episode of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, is produced by Marvel Music and Hollywood Records. The song is scored by Henry Jackman — the very same Jackman who scored Sam Wilson's song in Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Sam's first appearance in the MCU). 

"Louisiana Hero" gives Sam's melody a little bit of Southern flare that we don't hear in the score of Captain America: Winter Soldier. Don't worry — there's no "twang" here, but the country vibe shines through unmistakably on the electric guitars. 

 

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Symbol | Marvel Studios’ The Falcon and The Winter Soldier | Disney+
Marvel Entertainment    Mar 28, 2021


Quotes of the Week: Batwoman, TWD, Falcon and the Winter Soldier and More
By Team TVLine / March 28 2021
https://tvline.com/lists/the-falcon-and-winter-soldier-white-wolf-best-tv-quotes/

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THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER
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“Look at you, all stealthy. A little time down in Wakanda and you come out White Panther.”

“It’s actually White Wolf.”

“Huh?”

Did Bucky (Sebastian Stan) just give Sam (Anthony Mackie) a preview of his future alter ego?
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THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER (Bonus Quote!)
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“Hey, it’s Black Falcon! What’s up?”

“It’s just Falcon, kid.”

“No, no. My daddy told me it’s Black Falcon.”

“Is it because I’m Black and I’m the Falcon?”

“Well, technically, I mean, yes.”

“So are you, like, Black Kid?”

Sam (Anthony Mackie) plays the name game with a Baltimore fan


This poster does not look like Wyatt Russell... 

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On 3/29/2021 at 8:43 AM, tv echo said:

This poster does not look like Wyatt Russell... 

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They definitely tried to make him look a little less like a Comic Con cosplay or generic store brand Cap. PHOTOSHOP HIS JAWLINE ALL YOU WANT, MARVEL SOCIAL TEAM, WE KNOW HE'S A FAKE CAP.

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I do love how Anthony and Sebastian compliment Emily about how good a character Sharon is and how good she was in the very little they gave her to do in the movies in all the cast interviews so far. Especially after all the trolling she got from the Stucky stans on social media. If only the rest of the MCU cast had stood up for her and Brie when they were getting trolled the same way they stood up for, oh say, Chris Pratt.

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ETA: Direct ink to John Walker "must-haves" - https://www.marvel.com/articles/gear/shop-marvel-must-haves-john-walker

MARVEL MUST HAVES WEEK 11: THERE’S A NEW CAP IN TOWN, AND HE HAS MERCH
Posted by Madeleine Buckley | Mar 29, 2021 
https://thepopinsider.com/news/marvel-must-haves-week-11/ 

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John is the focus of this week’s Marvel Must Haves, getting two new figures, apparel, and more. Check out some of the highlights below and, as always, check out the full Marvel Must Haves for this episode at marvel.com.


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https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/falcon-and-winter-soldier-john-walker-captain-america-funko-marvel-legends/
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https://thepopinsider.com/news/marvel-must-haves-week-11/
 

‘The Falcon And The Winter Soldier’s Wyatt Russell On Why Captain America Won’t Easily Yield The Shield
By Anthony D'Alessandro    March 30, 2021
https://deadline.com/2021/03/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-wyatt-russell-interview-captain-america-1234724888/

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We asked Russell how easy it would be for Walker to give up the shield, to which he responded, maintaining suspense, “How do you know he gives up the shield?”
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“What the MCU does very well — they don’t literally take everything from the comics and put it into characters,” says Russell, “Sometimes they do a better job of making them more complex.”
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Says the actor, whose dad Kurt plays Ego in Guardians of the Galaxy 2, ““There is a dichotomy to him, there is complexity in his mind, in terms of what his past was and what and how it effects his presence.”

“That’s part of what drew me to him is the ability to be able to play someone who on the surface you might think you know what they are or what they’re like, but when you dig down a little bit deeper you might find that they’re doing things for reasons that are unknown to you before they were given to you.”


Falcon and Winter Soldier Creators Had Big Plans for Marvel's OTHER Falcon
BY COLLIER JENNINGS    MARCH 30, 2021
https://www.cbr.com/falcon-winter-soldier-big-plans-joaquin-torres/ 

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Showrunner Malcolm Spellman and director Kari Skogland were recently interviewed by ET, where they discussed Torres' role in the series. "He was great. I can't tell you where it’s gonna go, but obviously, he's not in there for no reason," Spellman said. "He just lights up. If we had had 10 episodes, we had a giant storyline for him built out. But he does have plenty of real estate in these six."


The Falcon And Winter Soldier Cast Interview: Wyatt Russell, Erin Kellyman, Amy Aquino
Comicbook.com   Mar 30, 2021

The Falcon and The Winter Soldier Therapist Speaks | toofab
toofab   Mar 30, 2021

Erin Kellyman Gives SOLO 2 Update and Talks THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER | INTERVIEW
Jake's Takes   Mar 30, 2021

 

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I will never understand the appeal of Funko Pops, no matter the subject.

It sees kind of premature to have John Walker merch, unless they know he's not going to be as hated as he seems to be now?

Speaking of merch, is there any for Sharon?

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All the new John Walker merch came out after his character was introduced on The Falcon and the Winter Solider. I suspect that new Sharon Carter merch will be revealed after she debuts in the series.

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17 hours ago, shoetingstar said:

Wyatt this is not helping the situation:

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"Hey, can I wear Evans' costume? Amp up the whole 'stepping into Cap's shoes' thing?"

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"No. No you may not." (goes to design a cheap knock off and a helmet that doesn't fit right)

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2 hours ago, Dandesun said:

 

"Hey, can I wear Evans' costume? Amp up the whole 'stepping into Cap's shoes' thing?"

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"No. No you may not." (goes to design a cheap knock off and a helmet that doesn't fit right)

I think Wyatt Russel is doing an excellent catering to the writer/director/studio requests "Okay, Wyatt, what we want is for your personality to be such that random people on the street in the real world will walk up and try to slap the life out of you."

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3 hours ago, johntfs said:

I think Wyatt Russel is doing an excellent catering to the writer/director/studio requests "Okay, Wyatt, what we want is for your personality to be such that random people on the street in the real world will walk up and try to slap the life out of you."

Honestly, though, the guy was screwed from the start, and secondly some of the people in this particular corner of fandom are so, shall we say, vocal about what they like and don't like (see also @Spartan Girl's comments about how EVC was treated) that Walker could be completely inoffensive and it wouldn't help. He is dickish and a bit entitled, but no one knew that until he started talking. By then, it was already too late.

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9 minutes ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

Honestly, though, the guy was screwed from the start, and secondly some of the people in this particular corner of fandom are so, shall we say, vocal about what they like and don't like (see also @Spartan Girl's comments about how EVC was treated) that Walker could be completely inoffensive and it wouldn't help. He is dickish and a bit entitled, but no one knew that until he started talking. By then, it was already too late.

It was too late because of how he was introduced. He only appeared for seconds but they entire setup to that point was to make him unlikeable. Some people would have never liked him but the audience had the exact reaction to show wanted. 

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1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:

Wait, are people seriously harassing Wyatt on social media because they hate Walker? Omg I’m so over this bullshit. People need to get a grip.

People are dumb. Sometimes it's because they don't like a character and can't disassociate the character from the actor, and sometimes it's because an actor says something that upsets them so they insist that they now hate that character, and that her movie will be terrible and will bomb and Marvel will look foolish for hiring her. Naming no names, of course.

Wyatt Russell seems like a charming enough guy - as you'd expect, given who his parents are - and I wouldn't mind John Walker staying around either as a villain or as a B-list hero who takes his own identity after realising he can't be Captain America.

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1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:

Wait, are people seriously harassing Wyatt on social media because they hate Walker? Omg I’m so over this bullshit. People need to get a grip.

It's not any different from the days before social media--people who can't tell the difference between the actor and character; especially soaps.

Social media just gives them a platform to do it publicly now.

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2 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Wait, are people seriously harassing Wyatt on social media because they hate Walker? Omg I’m so over this bullshit. People need to get a grip.

I was making a joke about how unlikable John Walker comes off as being.  I really hope there aren't actually idiots harassing Wyatt Russel over the character he is playing.

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15 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Wait, are people seriously harassing Wyatt on social media because they hate Walker? Omg I’m so over this bullshit. People need to get a grip.

I am not surprised.  There are plenty of people who don't have the intelligence to grasp that the actor isn't the character, he just plays him.

On 3/31/2021 at 8:38 AM, Abra said:

will never understand the appeal of Funko Pops, no matter the subject.

It sees kind of premature to have John Walker merch, unless they know he's not going to be as hated as he seems to be now?

From what I have seen so far not everybody hates the character. Some people haven't made up their mind, some people think he is wrong to be Cap but interesting as a character.

Plenty of Funko Pops have sold of characters people "hate".

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14 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

Wait, are people seriously harassing Wyatt on social media because they hate Walker? Omg I’m so over this bullshit. People need to get a grip.

Wyatt doesn't have any social media accounts. All the Walker hate I've seen on social media has specifically been about the character, not the actor. People are even prefacing their posts with "No hate to the actor, but..."

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