S09.E05: Shutting Down

[heatherchandler]

3 hours ago, BARISTA said:

Also, Aubree knows more about pregnancy than I do, and I’m pregnant !! I find it uncomfortable to watch. Wish Chelsea would let her be a kid rather than treating her like an adult friend 

YES - and it is so weird to me.  I think Aubree is way too involved in her life, like the minutia of it.  She shouldn't be.  They are not BFFs.  I think Chelsea may even realize this but isn't sure what to do about it.

1 hour ago, Mr. Minor said:

I thought she looked high AF in a couple of her segments.

She looks high AF.

She may have a doctor's prescription, but she is on some kind of opiate.  

16 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Do all Kail's "clones" look like Chris? Snerk

Is that who they were supposed to look like??  I thought it was supposed to be a celebrity crush.  

Also I do not understand why anyone would want to go out with six or seven people who look exactly alike... so weird!

[BitterApple]

24 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

YES - and it is so weird to me.  I think Aubree is way too involved in her life, like the minutia of it.  She shouldn't be.  They are not BFFs.  I think Chelsea may even realize this but isn't sure what to do about it.

I agree. I don't know if a lot of Chelsea's friendships have fizzled due to the natural course of life or what, but some of the stuff she discusses in front of Aubree really isn't appropriate. An eight year-old really doesn't need to hear about her mother's ovulation cycle or vigorous attempts to get pregnant with a third child. Chelsea definitely treats her more like a peer at times than a child. 

[druzy]

Everything regarding Pipegate at Leah's house doesn't make sense. Leah's voice over:

 I stayed at Jason's this weekend but when I got home my house was flooded. The girls are still adjusting to school and we just got back from Ali's doctor's appointment so I'm really stressed.

So Leah stayed with Jason for the weekend, but when she got home her house was flooded. When was Ali's doctor's appointment? After the flood? 

Then the producer asks Leah what happened and Leah response is:
The water has been off and then it came back on and I guess there was a leak and it flooded my house.

Why was the water off, how did it come back on and where was the leak?

If I was the adjuster (if she has insurance) I would be scratching my head.

Here's the scene for reference:

[heatherchandler]

Just now, druzy said:

Everything regarding Pipegate at Leah's house doesn't make sense. Leah's voice over:

I'm sorry, you mean it don't make no damn sense?  Come on now, say it properly.

Also - my guess is that she didn't pay her water bill and tried to start a bath... left the faucet (or several) in the "on" position and went to her boyfriend's for the weekend.  She then pays the bill, water comes back on while she isn't there, and the whole place floods.  

[Jax7917]

20 hours ago, TeenMom69 said:

Leah: "I'm so glad for your help. I'm used to doing things all on my own."

I laughed so loud and and long. Good one Leah.

Yea what part of being married twice , having 1.5 involved baby daddies , having her mom and other family members around to help , and MTV there to pay her for doing absolutely nothing for a couple weeks a year does she not understand ? I mean she’s a decent mother , but let’s not pretend she’s miss independent woman . 

Chelseas literally getting paid to have babies .. and that’s it . 

Why is briana on FaceTime with a new guy who she really likes .. and is not wearing a bra ? Those things were sagging really low and she just always looks like a mess . 

Edited February 12, 2019 by Jaclyn88

[LotusFlower]

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[jumper sage]

8 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Brianna is on the phone talking about Stella beating on Nova.

Well I am no Brianna apologist but my brother and I were 5 when our sister was born and when she figured out her hands could do things like slapping she would smack us constantly.  My mom told us to stay 3 feet away from the highchair.

3 hours ago, kicksave said:

So MTV hired Kail for their new show "Game of Clones"? Looks like the stupidest show ever...

Those poor clones.  Can you imagine having to act like she is something?

[jumper sage]

54 minutes ago, Jaclyn88 said:

Chelseas literally getting paid to have babies .. and that’s it . 

I like Chelsea and I like that she is the juxtaposition of the others.  She is the hope in an otherwise crazy crew.  Leah is impressing me lately.

Chelsea is 27 now and married.  I see nothing wrong with them planning their family close in age.  It is easier to have kids who can play together than have to entertain a singleton.  I love that her husband has his own job.

[Jax7917]

6 minutes ago, jumper sage said:

I like Chelsea and I like that she is the juxtaposition of the others.  She is the hope in an otherwise crazy crew.  Leah is impressing me lately.

Chelsea is 27 now and married.  I see nothing wrong with them planning their family close in age.  It is easier to have kids who can play together than have to entertain a singleton.  I love that her husband has his own job.

No don’t get me wrong , I think someone who’s stable is needed on the show to balance the jenelles and ambers of the show out .. and she’s a good mother and married a good guy . But I’m just calling a spade a spade . Her only storyline is being pregnant . Adams so far gone from Aubrey’s life that he’s barely even a factor on the show anymore and she has no other exes or baby daddies to talk about or to .  But seriously , Good for her for continuing to get paid for nothing .. I’d love to be in her position ! 

[Persnickety1]

1 hour ago, Jaclyn88 said:

Yea what part of being married twice , having 1.5 involved baby daddies , having her mom and other family members around to help , and MTV there to pay her for doing absolutely nothing for a couple weeks a year does she not understand ? I mean she’s a decent mother , but let’s not pretend she’s miss independent woman . 

Chelseas literally getting paid to have babies .. and that’s it . 

Why is briana on FaceTime with a new guy who she really likes .. and is not wearing a bra ? Those things were sagging really low and she just always looks like a mess . 

I remember her referring to him as "the new guy I'm sleeping with," so apparently all pretense of modesty is off the table.

I was trying to figure out when she slept with him.  She made the comment before the camping trip.

The bathroom of the chicken shack at which allegedly they first met?

In the bathroom of the restaurant at which they had their double date?

Some other undisclosed location and time?  

Clearly, I waste far too many precious brain cells trying to figure out what these women do and with whom they're having sexy times.

[Psycho Suzy]

8 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I wondered that myself. It seems like we haven't had a Brittney sighting in quite a while. Could she have...*gasp*....got her own place???

She did! 🤗

[lezlers]

21 hours ago, FlowerofCarnage said:

What do you  need a vacation from, Briana?

Briana works full time and has two kids.  I'd say she's justified in taking a vacation. 

22 hours ago, druzy said:

How much is Shirley getting paid to be the third wheel?

I felt so bad for Shirley!  That vacation looked awful for her!  Hi, third wheel!

[lezlers]

11 hours ago, BARISTA said:

It’s odd that Briana & John avoid spending time alone together. Anyone know if they are still together? 

Not a Kail fan but her boys are seriously sweet ! Isaac melts my heart !

i will rejoice the day Jenelle leaves David and spills all! I still believe if MTV continued to film him they could get the footage they need in order to actually prove everyone’s suspicions about DV. They can do nothing without solid proof. 

I wonder why Mary didn’t also keep Watson... also seemed strange to me that the hospital let Chelsea home at 5cm dilated.

Why didn’t Leah get professionals in to fix her house seems to be the obvious question cropping up here. It’s not like she can’t afford it. I do find her and Jason quite cute together! I wonder will their temporary breakup be filmed..

Say what you want about Kail, her boys are the sweetest and best behaved of the TM kid bunch.  She must be doing SOMETHING right.  

I also thought it was super weird the hospital sent Chelsea home at 5 cm dilated.  That's...a lot.  My hospital considered you in active labor and would admit you once you reached 4 cm (it's way fun showing up at 2 am, being sent home then coming back again at 5 to be admitted.)  Especially because Chelsea lives in a very rural area, relatively far from the hospital.  Just seemed unnecessarily risky, especially with a woman who has had 2 early births already.

[lezlers]

7 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I wondered that myself. It seems like we haven't had a Brittney sighting in quite a while. Could she have...*gasp*....got her own place???

I think they've posted a few times that Brittany doesn't live with them anymore.  She moved out, she just comes around for filming.

[lezlers]

1 hour ago, Persnickety1 said:

I remember her referring to him as "the new guy I'm sleeping with," so apparently all pretense of modesty is off the table.

I was trying to figure out when she slept with him.  She made the comment before the camping trip.

The bathroom of the chicken shack at which allegedly they first met?

In the bathroom of the restaurant at which they had their double date?

Some other undisclosed location and time?  

Clearly, I waste far too many precious brain cells trying to figure out what these women do and with whom they're having sexy times.

Considering Bri likes to bang her men (unprotected) before learning their last name, my money is in the chicken shack bathroom.  Makes the "chicken man" nickname really stick, you know?

[Persnickety1]

28 minutes ago, lezlers said:

Say what you want about Kail, her boys are the sweetest and best behaved of the TM kid bunch.  She must be doing SOMETHING right.  

I also thought it was super weird the hospital sent Chelsea home at 5 cm dilated.  That's...a lot.  My hospital considered you in active labor and would admit you once you reached 4 cm (it's way fun showing up at 2 am, being sent home then coming back again at 5 to be admitted.)  Especially because Chelsea lives in a very rural area, relatively far from the hospital.  Just seemed unnecessarily risky, especially with a woman who has had 2 early births already.

I was kind of shocked they sent her home, too.  

Rural location and the fact it was her second baby and labor can progress quite a bit more rapidly after the first birth.

I lived 50 miles from the hospital when my water broke with Mini Persnickety.  I wasn't having active contractions, but they still insisted on keeping me because labor was imminent and could have started even before I had made it home.    

If I were Chelsea, my ass would have just gotten cozy in the waiting room and I would have had them check me every hour.  Screw that going home and having to come right back crap nonsense.

[lezlers]

1 hour ago, Persnickety1 said:

I was kind of shocked they sent her home, too.  

Rural location and the fact it was her second baby and labor can progress quite a bit more rapidly after the first birth.

I lived 50 miles from the hospital when my water broke with Mini Persnickety.  I wasn't having active contractions, but they still insisted on keeping me because labor was imminent and could have started even before I had made it home.    

If I were Chelsea, my ass would have just gotten cozy in the waiting room and I would have had them check me every hour.  Screw that going home and having to come right back crap nonsense.

Her THIRD labor!  And yeah, I was not amused when I got sent home.  My water had broken (well, I thought it had.  Turned out I had just sprung a leak) and was having contractions, I was just 2 cm shy of their "active labor" cutoff.  Fortunately we only live 15 mins from the hospital so I was able to stew at home for 3 hours before turning around and heading right back with an "I told you so" attitude.

[Persnickety1]

3 minutes ago, lezlers said:

Her THIRD labor!  And yeah, I was not amused when I got sent home.  My water had broken (well, I thought it had.  Turned out I had just sprung a leak) and was having contractions, I was just 2 cm shy of their "active labor" cutoff.  Fortunately we only live 15 mins from the hospital so I was able to stew at home for 3 hours before turning around and heading right back with an "I told you so" attitude.

Oooh, that's right, I forgot about her baby boy.   Yeah, definitely all the more reason to have just admitted her at 5 cm.  

My sister-in-law had the same experience you did with springing a leak and contracting.  She was sent back home because her bag of waters was still intact.  We were leaving when she asked to sit down in the waiting room for a minute before we shuffled off  back home.  

When we went to leave, she stood up and her water really had broken at that point. 

A resident happened to be walking by and heard us talking about how she couldn't possibly go home, and he came over.  We told him what happened just five minutes before. 

He escorted my sister-in-law back to L&D for admission.  Without him, I'm sure the wench who discharged her five minutes before would have refused to check her again and just told her to go back home and wait.

Luckily it worked out okay for Chelsea, but I can't imagine being sent home like she was (and you were) to kill time and come back.  Nope, those hospital waiting rooms sometimes have really comfortable chairs.    

[alexa]

2 hours ago, Jaclyn88 said:

No don’t get me wrong , I think someone who’s stable is needed on the show to balance the jenelles and ambers of the show out .. and she’s a good mother and married a good guy . But I’m just calling a spade a spade . Her only storyline is being pregnant . Adams so far gone from Aubrey’s life that he’s barely even a factor on the show anymore and she has no other exes or baby daddies to talk about or to .  But seriously , Good for her for continuing to get paid for nothing .. I’d love to be in her position ! 

I guess I don’t see why she needs a storyline other than her real life?  Just because everyone else has issues, this show is about the Teen Mom 2 girls and that includes her just as much as the others.  Many would prefer to watch Chelsea and her beautiful family over the others. So I don’t think she is doing nothing if her job is simply to be filmed doing what she does in her life. 

[heatherchandler]

2 hours ago, Jaclyn88 said:

No don’t get me wrong , I think someone who’s stable is needed on the show to balance the jenelles and ambers of the show out .. and she’s a good mother and married a good guy . But I’m just calling a spade a spade . Her only storyline is being pregnant . Adams so far gone from Aubrey’s life that he’s barely even a factor on the show anymore and she has no other exes or baby daddies to talk about or to .  But seriously , Good for her for continuing to get paid for nothing .. I’d love to be in her position ! 

Her storyline earlier in the season was f-ing disgusting, showing her young daughter getting stood up by her father.  I was physically ill from her segments.  That is some real awful stuff to put on tv.  I would not say that makes her a good mother.  Watching her drive to the hospital over and over again is better than that - but seriously, how is this tv-worthy???  She obviously has nothing else going on in her life.

[Jax7917]

5 minutes ago, alexa said:

I guess I don’t see why she needs a storyline other than her real life?  Just because everyone else has issues, this show is about the Teen Mom 2 girls and that includes her just as much as the others.  Many would prefer to watch Chelsea and her beautiful family over the others. So I don’t think she is doing nothing if her job is simply to be filmed doing what she does in her life. 

Which is ... to be pregnant or talk about having baby fever every episode . I enjoy watching her do well in life and I think she should be on the show . Her family is adorable .. but at the end of the day it’s television and generally television is interesting and has some sort of storyline . It’s just my opinion .. but I do think out of all the girls on both teen mom og and teen mom 2, she’s the only one who appreciates what she has with mtv . 

[BitterApple]

The show is scrambling hard for storylines. I'll throw Chelsea a bone and concede that all five girls are getting paid way too much money to do absolutely nothing. 

Brianna's recruiting boyfriends in chicken restaurants to stay relevant, Kail's dredging up long lost relatives and next week we're treated to manufactured drama with Javi and Lauren. Ooooh, will Kail speak to Lauren at Lincoln's next soccer game? Stay tuned to find out...

 MTV did the right thing by pulling the plug on David, but the TM2 producers have to be pissed that their resident trainwrecks can no longer be shown in all their white trash glory. Barb crying to security isn't going to cut it. 

Edited February 13, 2019 by BitterApple

[jumper sage]

20 hours ago, BARISTA said:

I wonder why Mary didn’t also keep Watson... also seemed strange to me that the hospital let Chelsea home at 5cm dilated.

Mary's job was to get the girl to school and home.  The other grandma was called when they went to the hospital.  Besides it being more convenient for each grandmother it also makes sure that all grandmas stay away from the hospital.

[IgnoranceisBLISS]

Brianna, it's called shampoo. Regular or Dry it doesn't matter just use some!!!! Her unkempt hair is one of the main reasons she always looks dirty to me. JMO

[Pepper Mostly]

Every time I see Briana the word "slag" drifts across my consciousness. She's such a grubby little skank. Yuck.

[MaggieG]

That was the saddest "camping" trip I have ever seen. Why did Shirley need to be there? 

During Chelsea's segment, there was a little clip at the end of all of them sitting with baby Layne and Watson was looking at her all adorable and smiley. He's the cutest.

Was Isaac switched at birth? How the heck did a hosebeast like Kail birth such a sweet kid?

#FreeKaiser

[ghoulina]

18 hours ago, lezlers said:

I think they've posted a few times that Brittany doesn't live with them anymore.  She moved out, she just comes around for filming.

Somehow I missed that, thanks! I'm super happy for her. Long time coming, IMO. 

17 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

Her storyline earlier in the season was f-ing disgusting, showing her young daughter getting stood up by her father.  I was physically ill from her segments.  That is some real awful stuff to put on tv.  I would not say that makes her a good mother.  Watching her drive to the hospital over and over again is better than that - but seriously, how is this tv-worthy???  She obviously has nothing else going on in her life.

I mean, is it any less entertaining that Brianna's double dates from 1994? Or Kail's pot shampoo? Other than Jenelle, most of these girls are pretty boring. And Jenelle isn't interesting in a good way, not anymore. 

[TexasGal]

4 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Every time I see Briana the word "slag" drifts across my consciousness. She's such a grubby little skank. Yuck.

It was so funny to me when her mom was giving her all kinds of "advice" about moving slowly how the clear unstated piece of advise was - don't get knocked up again.

[gunderda]

On 2/12/2019 at 7:38 AM, ghoulina said:

Right? When she first announced they were going camping, I was dumbfounded. I could NOT picture her camping. But then they pulled up to the cabin and I said, "Of course."

When they showed the GIANT cabin i yelled "THAT IS NOT CAMPING!"   

On 2/12/2019 at 8:12 AM, Linny said:

Other than Kaiser's obviously natural affection for everyone except his mother, the thing that stuck out to me was him informing Jenelle that "Dad said don't say bad stuff about you." I'm not sure how to interpret that--Nathan told Kaiser to not speak badly of Jenelle? Nathan told his mom/girlfriend not to badmouth Jenelle around Kaiser?--

I found that interesting as well and am actually curious on Nathan's view of why he said that.  But kudos for Jenelle to come back with a "and we don't talk badly about anyone".  I thought that was nice when she usually would have come back something nasty about nathan. 

On 2/12/2019 at 1:56 PM, Pepper Mostly said:

Do all Kail's "clones" look like Chris? Snerk

yep!

the kayaking scene kinda freaked me out... because they strapped their legs in...  my friend's cousin and cousin's young son died not that long ago from their kayak tipping over and somehow they drowned and cousin was an experienced kayaker. 

[Christina87]

2 hours ago, TexasGal said:

It was so funny to me when her mom was giving her all kinds of "advice" about moving slowly how the clear unstated piece of advise was - don't get knocked up again.

I'll just never, ever understand why Briana thought it was a good idea to get knocked up in the club bathroom by Luis. I mean...she could have waited for a halfway decent dude who is actually into her, like this one seems to be. We don't know much about this guy, but he seems better than Luis, and is interested in a relationship. With SUCH a low bar, why not just wait?! Plus, she has to know that right or wrong, people get judged with every baby daddy they accumulate, so why waste one on a complete loser who won't help you? I just don't get it. I think that if Bri only had Nova, and made this guy her second baby daddy RIGHT NOW, it would still be a better choice than Luis. Now, she will be a 3x3 if she has anymore kids, so I really hope it's worth it to totally waste the #2 slot on a loser from the club. Not that it's always bad to be a 3x3. For instance, Chelsea had adam and Cole, and if Cole died tomorrow, and she married again at 35 and had more kids, nobody would judge that. But bri's 3x3 situation with her new boyfriend is something anyone would judge!

[jumper sage]

27 minutes ago, gunderda said:

I found that interesting as well and am actually curious on Nathan's view of why he said that.  But kudos for Jenelle to come back with a "and we don't talk badly about anyone".

I give you kudos for correcting her English.

Both Janelle and Kail have adorable kids despite...................

6 hours ago, MaggieG said:

That was the saddest "camping" trip I have ever seen.

Well calling it camping was not accurate.  Having spent much time camping in a tent etc I will only go glamping now.  I feel as though I earned it.

[jumper sage]

23 hours ago, Jaclyn88 said:

But I’m just calling a spade a spade . Her only storyline is being pregnant . Adams so far gone from Aubrey’s life that he’s barely even a factor on the show anymore and she has no other exes or baby daddies to talk about or to .  But seriously , Good for her for continuing to get paid for nothing .. I’d love to be in her position ! 

I get you.  I can bet that Chelsea and Cole are banking the money for the future.

[politichick]

On 2/12/2019 at 11:52 AM, Pepper Mostly said:

I don't think Chelsea treats Aubree like an adult friend. She doesn't talk down to her and answers her questions. They have conversations. Considering how long it was just Chelsea and Aubree I'm pretty impressed that Chelsea hasn't fallen in to the trap of making Aubree her sole emotional support. Chelsea has always had friends/peers of her own age, not even rent a friends like most of  these girls have.  I see no evidence at all that Chelsea doesn't let Aubree be a kid.

I completely agree with you, especially the bold bit. In fact, when I was listening to the inane chitchat the other girls were having with their children, I thought, "Chelsea's the only mum who has actual conversations with her child." Aubree is an intelligent, curious girl, so she probably has asked some questions about childbirth, especially having experienced two baby sibs on the way, but I doubt that Chelsea just sat her down to discuss the miracle of life.

Kaiser was so sweet, and yes, Jennelle surprised us all with her response to his statement about saying bad stuff about her. Was that in response to her asking him if he'd missed her?

Leah remains as dumb as a box of rocks as usual. Yes, she needed to call in a man, but not the one she's fucking--one who fixes that kind of shit for a living. Surely she must have insurance. I wonder if she bought her house outright and doesn't have a mortgage, which would require her to carry property insurance. What a dolt. Hopefully that was all for a storyline and, as someone else here mused, the disaster clean-up guys were down the road.

[jumper sage]

2 minutes ago, politichick said:

but I doubt that Chelsea just sat her down to discuss the miracle of life.

When my sister was born, my brother and I were 5.  Our parents told us EXACTLY how it happened and EXACTLY how it would come out.  He said we should not blame the baby.  Dude, we blamed you!

3 minutes ago, politichick said:

Leah remains as dumb as a box of rocks as usual. Yes, she needed to call in a man, but not the one she's fucking--one who fixes that kind of shit for a living. Surely she must have insurance. I wonder if she bought her house outright and doesn't have a mortgage, which would require her to carry property insurance. What a dolt. Hopefully that was all for a storyline and, as someone else here mused, the disaster clean-up guys were down the road.

I caught, on another watching, that when she was on the phone and in the car she said she was going through the process of dealing with insurance.

[Persnickety1]

6 hours ago, MaggieG said:

That was the saddest "camping" trip I have ever seen. Why did Shirley need to be there? 

During Chelsea's segment, there was a little clip at the end of all of them sitting with baby Layne and Watson was looking at her all adorable and smiley. He's the cutest.

Was Isaac switched at birth? How the heck did a hosebeast like Kail birth such a sweet kid?

#FreeKaiser

I agree. 

I kept hoping for Jason Vorhees to make an appearance and liven that shit up.

Alas, no such luck.    

[TeenMom69]

15 minutes ago, politichick said:

What a dolt. Hopefully that was all for a storyline and, as someone else here mused, the disaster clean-up guys were down the road.

From what I remember about this flood, yes there were cleaners and carpenters and carpet workers as there are in any town. But they were innundated with the crisis, either in their own flooded homes or in their jobs in public works and tradesmen. I'm sure appointments with carpet estimators were impossible to get at this time. Sometimes you got to do some things for yourself and start pulling up wet moldy carpet.

[monagatuna]

2 hours ago, TeenMom69 said:

From what I remember about this flood, yes there were cleaners and carpenters and carpet workers as there are in any town. But they were innundated with the crisis, either in their own flooded homes or in their jobs in public works and tradesmen. I'm sure appointments with carpet estimators were impossible to get at this time. Sometimes you got to do some things for yourself and start pulling up wet moldy carpet.

I think that was a different flood--2016. I remember distinctly answering the phone on a break from class while my mom described the destruction. This particular flood was due to some pipe bursting, not a natural disaster, and was exclusive to her home.

It took nearly a year of displacement and rebuilding, and yes, there was a HUGE shortage of contractors, but my mom and grandma made it back to their home.

[Psycho Suzy]

On 2/12/2019 at 1:28 PM, ghoulina said:

For the first time that I can remember, I actually felt sorry for Janelle. Kaiser was being so sweet as usual, and so loving towards his dad, both grandmothers and Andre the security guy. It was an effort for him to give Janelle a hug and agree that he missed her. She was clearly the one person there that he did not have affection for. And of course we understand why. what made me sad is that it seems Janelle is not capable of love. There is something really really wrong with her. It's sad. It's sad for her poor innocent children, sad for Barb,  who has never received love by Janelle, and sad for Janelle herself.

[Rebecca]

On 2/11/2019 at 8:08 PM, druzy said:

Why was Leah's water turned off in the first place?

I wonder if she (they) actually lives with Jason most of the time and that’s why the water was off. And also why she didn’t seem that concerned. It’s very odd otherwise.

On 2/11/2019 at 10:29 PM, BitterApple said:

So Barb and MTV know Dave is beating the shit out of Jenelle, and no one's doing anything for the sake of the children. Nice. 

CPS and the police have been called and it’s been reported a bunch and we’ve even seen police show up there on the show - nothing ever happens. I’m sure at least some of the calls have been placed by Barb and MTV. The real mystery to me is why the police and CPS never do anything. You’d think with the sheer number of calls and things they would investigate deeper...

On 2/12/2019 at 9:14 AM, Dance4Life said:

How can someone spend $50,000+ to rebuild their entire body but cannot bother to look clean afterwards?

All of Briana’s unfortunate surgeries were free because she had “Dr Miami” do them and allowed him to stream the surgeries for his social media. Twice. I don’t understand why she doesn’t seem to care what she looks like, basically ever, but still put herself through all that. Twice.

On 2/12/2019 at 6:02 PM, Persnickety1 said:

I remember her referring to him as "the new guy I'm sleeping with," so apparently all pretense of modesty is off the table.

I was trying to figure out when she slept with him.  She made the comment before the camping trip.

The bathroom of the chicken shack at which allegedly they first met?

In the bathroom of the restaurant at which they had their double date?

Some other undisclosed location and time?  

The backseat of the car while Shirls drove  around. 😆 

4 hours ago, politichick said:

I completely agree with you, especially the bold bit. In fact, when I was listening to the inane chitchat the other girls were having with their children, I thought, "Chelsea's the only mum who has actual conversations with her child." Aubree is an intelligent, curious girl, so she probably has asked some questions about childbirth, especially having experienced two baby sibs on the way, but I doubt that Chelsea just sat her down to discuss the miracle of life.

I think it’s sort of nice that Aubree is made to feel included with the adult family members, to an extent. It gives her a special place in the family when otherwise she might be out of place since she’s not the biological child of Cole and Chelsea and, more importantly, because she’s 9-10 years older than her siblings. She is and is going to be in a unique place of being way older than the other kids in the family for the rest of her childhood and it sounds Iike they’re planning on having at least one more kid. I’m glad she seems secure in her place within the family. I don’t think they treat her too much like an adult for her age.

4 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

I agree. 

I kept hoping for Jason Vorhees to make an appearance and liven that shit up.

Alas, no such luck.    

Haha, maybe he could’ve given Briana some reconstructive surgeries and made her look better than what “Dr Miami” did.

1 hour ago, SuzyQILoveYou said:

. what made me sad is that it seems Janelle is not capable of love. There is something really really wrong with her. It's sad. It's sad for her poor innocent children, sad for Barb,  who has never received love by Janelle, and sad for Janelle herself.

She’s a sociopath. Most sociopaths think they’re better than everyone else and like being the way they are. They think we’re idiots.

Edited February 14, 2019 by Rebecca

[jumper sage]

On 2/12/2019 at 6:35 PM, Jaclyn88 said:

But I’m just calling a spade a spade . Her only storyline is being pregnant

This is true but for her age group and family status this rings true.  We have a lot of women in our family around her age.  Babies are coming quite quickly and often for them.  We even have a nursing room set up, for those that like a little privacy, at every family function.  I like that within all the chaos we have some normalcy.  It shows that even when having an unplanned pregnancy you can get back on track and have a great life.

I like that they are planning their family and not just oops-ing it like Kail and Brianna.

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[suzeecat]

On ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 6:20 PM, jumper sage said:

Those poor clones.  Can you imagine having to act like she is something?

Uh, no.  They applied for the show to get TV exposure and $$$.  They made their beds, now they have to sleep in them.

[suzeecat]

16 hours ago, Christina87 said:

I'll just never, ever understand why Briana thought it was a good idea to get knocked up in the club bathroom by Luis.

Don't forget, that pregnancy was Brianna's ticket back on to TM2.

[ghoulina]

4 hours ago, suzeecat said:

Don't forget, that pregnancy was Brianna's ticket back on to TM2.

Exactly. I 100% believe she did that to put her over the edge with Cheyenne. Now we're stuck with her horrible life choices and her histrionic mother. 

[Scarlett45]

On 2/13/2019 at 4:43 PM, Christina87 said:

I'll just never, ever understand why Briana thought it was a good idea to get knocked up in the club bathroom by Luis. I mean...she could have waited for a halfway decent dude who is actually into her, like this one seems to be. We don't know much about this guy, but he seems better than Luis, and is interested in a relationship. With SUCH a low bar, why not just wait?! Plus, she has to know that right or wrong, people get judged with every baby daddy they accumulate, so why waste one on a complete loser who won't help you? I just don't get it. I think that if Bri only had Nova, and made this guy her second baby daddy RIGHT NOW, it would still be a better choice than Luis. Now, she will be a 3x3 if she has anymore kids, so I really hope it's worth it to totally waste the #2 slot on a loser from the club. Not that it's always bad to be a 3x3. For instance, Chelsea had adam and Cole, and if Cole died tomorrow, and she married again at 35 and had more kids, nobody would judge that. But bri's 3x3 situation with her new boyfriend is something anyone would judge!

Yeah I don't have Brianna figured out either. There is a 5yrs gap between Nova and Stella, and we know the woman wasn't celibate, so she had to be using some type of contraception. Was she feeling the "baby itch" and having a more independent school age child wasn't going to feed her ego as much as a dependent newborn? Even then- way a random at the club??? Why not a guy that at least liked her with a full time job. Brianna has her faults, but I think she does actually want a relationship, she's young and attractive with only 1 child. She's not so bright but she would probably be fun company (not like Jenelle who would just want to do drugs or something). 

So WHY Luis??? I could see it if she were 40, had no kids, and just desperately wanted to be pregnant.....

10 hours ago, suzeecat said:

Don't forget, that pregnancy was Brianna's ticket back on to TM2.

6 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Exactly. I 100% believe she did that to put her over the edge with Cheyenne. Now we're stuck with her horrible life choices and her histrionic mother. 

I totally forgot about that! Cheyenne- is that the girl now on TM:OG who has a baby with a guy from The Challenge?

[ghoulina]

17 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

Yeah I don't have Brianna figured out either. There is a 5yrs gap between Nova and Stella, and we know the woman wasn't celibate, so she had to be using some type of contraception. Was she feeling the "baby itch" and having a more independent school age child wasn't going to feed her ego as much as a dependent newborn? Even then- way a random at the club??? Why not a guy that at least liked her with a full time job. Brianna has her faults, but I think she does actually want a relationship, she's young and attractive with only 1 child. She's not so bright but she would probably be fun company (not like Jenelle who would just want to do drugs or something). 

So WHY Luis??? I could see it if she were 40, had no kids, and just desperately wanted to be pregnant.....

I totally forgot about that! Cheyenne- is that the girl now on TM:OG who has a baby with a guy from The Challenge?

I'm so sorry. I meant MacKenzie. From TM3. She was the other contender for getting brought in. And I think Bri got pregnant to up her potential storyline. 

[BitterApple]

12 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

I'm so sorry. I meant MacKenzie. From TM3. She was the other contender for getting brought in. And I think Bri got pregnant to up her potential storyline. 

I'm surprised MacKenzie was up for consideration. Last I checked, Josh caved and finally married her and they had a few more kids. There doesn't seem to be enough of a trainwreck factor to bring her on as a castmember. 

[ghoulina]

26 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I'm surprised MacKenzie was up for consideration. Last I checked, Josh caved and finally married her and they had a few more kids. There doesn't seem to be enough of a trainwreck factor to bring her on as a castmember. 

I agree. I think maybe her health problems might have been a draw? But, yea, Briana being single and knocked up again was a lot more enticing for Trash TV. 

[eskimo]

On 2/15/2019 at 12:53 PM, BitterApple said:

 There doesn't seem to be enough of a trainwreck factor to bring her on as a castmember. 

As horrible as it is, MTV would totally exploit Mackenzie's mothers (I believe terminal) cancer story. 

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[jacksgirl]

Loving that Issac had already dropped his school supplies and backpack before the first day. So smart. Teacher prob has all supplies labelled and put away. Subtracts from the first day stress. Maybe schools are well in Dover.