bigskygirl April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said: Yes, let's all remember that VK said she had a thyroid issue, Jinelle set her up with a doctor's appointment, and Victoria never even showed up (and didn't even let Jinelle know that she wasn't showing up). And if that isn't bad enough, then gets shitty with Jinelle (in front of Kelli!) when called out on it in Kelli's office. Was that enough to get her cut? NOPE! And that is NOTHING compared to how Victoria behaved behind the scenes. The level of entitlement, immaturity, and self-delusion with her is mind boggling. As a result, she caused MAJOR drama for everyone else during training camp. I mean, several of the girls had a (very secret) celebration the night she was cut. If they bring her back into training camp, it will show what a farce the audition process really is. You would think they would have learn their lesson after it came out about what Cassie was really like or even what Jenna, and a few other girls were like the year before. I guess the call of money, ratings and five minutes of fame for the DCC and Cowboys Organization is a mighty temptation no matter what the expense is. Edited April 7, 2019 by bigskygirl 1 Link to comment
dreamcatcher April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, SmpIsimon said: Yes, let's all remember that VK said she had a thyroid issue, Jinelle set her up with a doctor's appointment, and Victoria never even showed up (and didn't even let Jinelle know that she wasn't showing up). And if that isn't bad enough, then gets shitty with Jinelle (in front of Kelli!) when called out on it in Kelli's office. Was that enough to get her cut? NOPE! And that is NOTHING compared to how Victoria behaved behind the scenes. The level of entitlement, immaturity, and self-delusion with her is mind boggling. As a result, she caused MAJOR drama for everyone else during training camp. I mean, several of the girls had a (very secret) celebration the night she was cut. If they bring her back into training camp, it will show what a farce the audition process really is. It was SO obvious that they cut half of that scene, so I want to know how they made the producers to edit out such a goldmine of a scene. @M1977G while having such a service for free is amazing, in this case it was just an ad and I doubt the girls actually got to taste it out long enough. I mean Schramm was probably the only girl we can all admit was dcc thin when she was ‘offered’ this service. Evenif they did receive the service, it was for free and not paid for by the org. 5 Link to comment
bigskygirl April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 5 hours ago, ByTor said: Probably because they had the money in the budget in seasons 7 & 8. I'd say definitely. I know they love doing this on The Bachelor. I remember Kelli saying she wanted to take up to 40 girls in Seasons 5 and 6, so I am not buying the budget story. She said the budget is around one million dollars annually which is made up of what the girls bring in aka calendar sales, appearances, etc. etc. If they had the money for two seasons, she should have had the money for more girls afterwards especially if they had money to add Yuko in Season 11? when Kelli usually goes for 36 girls. Link to comment
go4luca April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 6 hours ago, ByTor said: Probably because they had the money in the budget in seasons 7 & 8. That's my feeling too. Especially after the cost of building the Ford Center. Sure they have tons of money, but building that facility sure as heck wasn't cheap. 2 Link to comment
bigskygirl April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, go4luca said: That's my feeling too. Especially after the cost of building the Ford Center. Sure they have tons of money, but building that facility sure as heck wasn't cheap. The cost of the Ford Center probably has nothing to do with the DCC budget. The DCC budget is based on what the girls bring in aka revenue which is usually around one million dollars. I do not think they use any of the DCC budget for the Ford Center. Link to comment
go4luca April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bigskygirl said: The cost of the Ford Center probably has nothing to do with the DCC budget. The DCC budget is based on what the girls bring in aka revenue which is usually around one million dollars. I do not think they use any of the DCC budget for the Ford Center. Sorry to disagree, but budget is budget. I work in film production so know all too well there are many things involved. We will have to agree to disagree. 😉 Edited April 7, 2019 by go4luca one word too many 6 Link to comment
KatieC April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, go4luca said: Sorry to disagree, but budget is budget. I work in film production so know all too well there are many things involved. We will have to agree to disagree. 😉 I agree with you. Budgets are complicated in a large organization and absolutely would change from year to year depending on any number of factors. 2 Link to comment
bigskygirl April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 The new building has nothing to do with the DCC budget. Just like when I worked in retail. I got paid and had my hours set on how much the store was bringing in. Less business meant less hours and lower pay raises along with less staff. The DCCs budget is based on the revenue they bring (around one million dollars) which needs to cover the entire year from salaries, insurance, worker's comp, traveling, auditions, swimsuit calendar shoots, etc. etc. Yes, CMT probably pays them to film, but I seriously doubt any money they got from CMT went to the new building. And if they had less money, I seriously doubt Kelli would have been saying I could have went with around 40 girls in Season 5 and 6 then go for two years with more girls. And they did go with 37 girls in Season 11 when Yuko made the team. Link to comment
go4luca April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, bigskygirl said: The new building has nothing to do with the DCC budget. Just like when I worked in retail. I got paid and had my hours set on how much the store was bringing in. Less business meant less hours and lower pay raises along with less staff. The DCCs budget is based on the revenue they bring (around one million dollars) which needs to cover the entire year from salaries, insurance, worker's comp, traveling, auditions, swimsuit calendar shoots, etc. etc. Yes, CMT probably pays them to film, but I seriously doubt any money they got from CMT went to the new building. And if they had less money, I seriously doubt Kelli would have been saying I could have went with around 40 girls in Season 5 and 6 then go for two years with more girls. And they did go with 37 girls in Season 11 when Yuko made the team. I'm not going to debate with you. Some of us feel it's due to budget. I never said it was due CMT. I do feel budget plays into it for various reasons. Feel free to disagree & enjoy the rest of your day! 6 Link to comment
go4luca April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, KatieC said: I agree with you. Budgets are complicated in a large organization and absolutely would change from year to year depending on any number of factors. Thank you! For getting my point and the varying factors involved! Some feel the need to beat a dead horse. Those of you who feel compelled to debate, enjoy! It's a gorgeous day in SoCal so I'm off to enjoy some gorgeous sunshine! 2 Link to comment
MrsEVH April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 (edited) I'm guessing Grace Patterson (DSIG) is not auditioning for the DCC or any other teams this year. Her current IG says "LA actress" and "Former pro cheerleader". Edited April 7, 2019 by MrsEVH Link to comment
Holly85 April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, MrsEVH said: I'm guessing Grace Patterson (DSIG) is not auditioning for the DCC or any other teams this year. Her current IG says "LA actress" and "Former pro cheerleader". Yeah she quit the Dsig last night was her last game Link to comment
KatieC April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, MrsEVH said: I'm guessing Grace Patterson (DSIG) is not auditioning for the DCC or any other teams this year. Her current IG says "LA actress" and "Former pro cheerleader". I saw posts saying she is moving to LA. When I looked at her profile there are other pics from things she has acted in. I had no idea! Best of luck to her! Link to comment
NotthebadVictoria April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 IIRC Shelly herself said 36 was now a hard number 2 Link to comment
MrsEVH April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, KatieC said: I saw posts saying she is moving to LA. When I looked at her profile there are other pics from things she has acted in. I had no idea! Best of luck to her! She has an imdb page. Link to comment
TUOwl84 April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, bigskygirl said: I remember Kelli saying she wanted to take up to 40 girls in Seasons 5 and 6, so I am not buying the budget story. She said the budget is around one million dollars annually which is made up of what the girls bring in aka calendar sales, appearances, etc. etc. If they had the money for two seasons, she should have had the money for more girls afterwards especially if they had money to add Yuko in Season 11? when Kelli usually goes for 36 girls. Budgets do change from year to year. 2 Link to comment
TexasBorn April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, go4luca said: Sorry to disagree, but budget is budget. I work in film production so know all too well there are many things involved. We will have to agree to disagree. 😉 I agree. It all comes from the same pot or pie, whatever analogy suits you ... 2 Link to comment
KatieC April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MrsEVH said: She has an imdb page. Thanks! I will have to check it out! Link to comment
5678Pixie April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 (edited) This confirms this girl can be added to the list auditioning Edited April 7, 2019 by 5678Pixie 2 Link to comment
MrsEVH April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, KatieC said: Thanks! I will have to check it out! You can link to it from her IG account. https://www.instagram.com/gracevictoriapatterson/ 1 Link to comment
dccfan37 April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, 5678Pixie said: This girl can be added to the list auditioning She’s been on the list for a while Link to comment
DCCFan197605 April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, TUOwl84 said: Budgets do change from year to year. Does anyone find it odd that DCC only generates a million per year? Seems extremely low to me. If that’s the case, actually paying proper salaries and benefits would put the group in the red unless having them work full time would generate significantly more revenue. 3 Link to comment
ByTor April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 5 hours ago, bigskygirl said: I remember Kelli saying she wanted to take up to 40 girls in Seasons 5 and 6, so I am not buying the budget story. Kelli saying she wanted to take up to 40 supports the budget story. 1 Link to comment
bigskygirl April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 I really could care less about the budget. I am more concern about the mental and physical well being of the girls who try out and/or make the team. They are being use by CMT, Kelli and Charlotte for the almighty dollar and ratings. It is a sad state of affairs when an organization who supposedly supports young women cares more about being the top rated show on a television station than the crappy why it uses the reason of it is a honor and a privilege to one of the best entertainment groups in the world while they are slowly dragging it into the ground. Link to comment
ByTor April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 4 hours ago, bigskygirl said: And if they had less money, I seriously doubt Kelli would have been saying I could have went with around 40 girls in Season 5 and 6 then go for two years with more girls. That's the point, they had the money for 40, hence her having wanted to go with 40. Anyway, to get back on topic to speculation for next season, I will be shocked if any of the current rookies get cut. Honestly I don't see any current DCC on the chopping block. The only one who I think should be is Savannah, but apparently she's a favorite and is going nowhere. 2 Link to comment
EricaShadows April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, ByTor said: Anyway, to get back on topic to speculation for next season, I will be shocked if any of the current rookies get cut. Honestly I don't see any current DCC on the chopping block. The only one who I think should be is Savannah, but apparently she's a favorite and is going nowhere. While it could go either way, I suspect at least one girl will get cut but no more than three, especially if the incoming class (minus Victoria) are exceptionally strong. It's a very likely possibility that Kelli will try to strong-arm Victoria onto the squad again, even if she is one of the weakest girls there. 2 Link to comment
ByTor April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, EricaShadows said: While it could go either way, I suspect at least one girl will get cut but no more than three, especially if the incoming class (minus Victoria) are exceptionally strong. It's a very likely possibility that Kelli will try to strong-arm Victoria onto the squad again, even if she is one of the weakest girls there. I'm pretty sure you might think Christina is one of them 😉 . Do you think anyone else is in danger? Link to comment
EricaShadows April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, ByTor said: I'm pretty sure you might think Christina is one of them 😉 . Do you think anyone else is in danger? You hit the nail on the head with that guess, but then again, I haven't been exactly quiet in my dislike of her. The only other girls I could see going are Gabby and Taylor, but there could always be a girl cut that no one saw coming. 2 Link to comment
ByTor April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 Just now, EricaShadows said: You hit the nail on the head with that guess, but then again, I haven't been exactly quiet in my dislike of her. Hence my "guess" 🤣 😁 😛 Link to comment
Jennv April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, EricaShadows said: You hit the nail on the head with that guess, but then again, I haven't been exactly quiet in my dislike of her. The only other girls I could see going are Gabby and Taylor, but there could always be a girl cut that no one saw coming. I think that Kelli has in mind which veterans she is going to cut based on their behavior during the previous season, and what we see on the show is just the excuse she chooses to use for the cameras. I don't buy that they suddenly decided to cut a girl based on the dress she wore to interviews, or even a less than stellar solo. 12 Link to comment
KatieC April 7, 2019 Share April 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jennv said: I think that Kelli has in mind which veterans she is going to cut based on their behavior during the previous season, and what we see on the show is just the excuse she chooses to use for the cameras. I don't buy that they suddenly decided to cut a girl based on the dress she wore to interviews, or even a less than stellar solo. I think this is the case as evidenced by what happened with Kyra. What goes on during the season plays into them returning, as it should. We don’t know the in’s and out’s of what went on, so there definitely could be cuts that have nothing to do with weight, dance ability, etc. 3 Link to comment
bigskygirl April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 (edited) Keyra was late twice to appearances after the regular football season was over. She also had an attitude which did not fit well with some of the girls and Kelli leading to her being cut at finals. She might have been given strong hints not to try out again by TPTB, but she probably let her ego get in the way and decided to try out again. Edited April 8, 2019 by bigskygirl Link to comment
MrsEVH April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, bigskygirl said: Keyra was late twice to appearances after the regular football season was over. She also had an attitude which did not fit well with some of the girls and Kelli leading to her being cut at finals. She might have been given strong hints not to try out again by TPTB, but she probably let her ego get in the way and decided to try out again. She probably made the team because of Cersten. 4 Link to comment
EricaShadows April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, bigskygirl said: Keyra was late twice to appearances after the regular football season was over. She also had an attitude which did not fit well with some of the girls and Kelli leading to her being cut at finals. She might have been given strong hints not to try out again by TPTB, but she probably let her ego get in the way and decided to try out again. The same could be said of Whitney Robertson, the Miami Dolphins Cheerleader who was cut at auditions the year after she was cut from Training Camp. She was essentially told the DCC are not a good fit for you, don't bother auditioning again, but came back and made it to Semi-Finals, but not Finals. I was surprised she even made it to Semis, but Liz Reuter didn't make it back to Finals after she was cut from Training Camp the year before and the only reason we ever heard about THAT was that she came back with the same "soft" gut/weight issues. They already knew she was a fabulous dancer, but weren't sure that she could get the weight off (or was willing to put in the work) if they took her back to Training Camp. 1 Link to comment
bigskygirl April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, EricaShadows said: The same could be said of Whitney Robertson, the Miami Dolphins Cheerleader who was cut at auditions the year after she was cut from Training Camp. She was essentially told the DCC are not a good fit for you, don't bother auditioning again, but came back and made it to Semi-Finals, but not Finals. I was surprised she even made it to Semis, but Liz Reuter didn't make it back to Finals after she was cut from Training Camp the year before and the only reason we ever heard about THAT was that she came back with the same "soft" gut/weight issues. They already knew she was a fabulous dancer, but weren't sure that she could get the weight off (or was willing to put in the work) if they took her back to Training Camp. And what gets me is they took Stephanie Hayman in Season 5 after she started putting on weight. I think the only reason why she was put on the team was the fact she was Brooke's friend and Amy Reese was cut. If she tried out again, she probably would have been cut at finals for her weight. Link to comment
MrsEVH April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, EricaShadows said: The same could be said of Whitney Robertson, the Miami Dolphins Cheerleader who was cut at auditions the year after she was cut from Training Camp. She was essentially told the DCC are not a good fit for you, don't bother auditioning again, but came back and made it to Semi-Finals, but not Finals. I was surprised she even made it to Semis, but Liz Reuter didn't make it back to Finals after she was cut from Training Camp the year before and the only reason we ever heard about THAT was that she came back with the same "soft" gut/weight issues. They already knew she was a fabulous dancer, but weren't sure that she could get the weight off (or was willing to put in the work) if they took her back to Training Camp. She probably thought she'd make it back to TC like others have. There's always girls who want to "try one more time ". I always wondered why they never took Grace Sells back to TC. She was cut in 2009 but came back in 2010 and didn't make it to finals. I think she was shown for a split second and no reason was ever given. 2 Link to comment
MrsEVH April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, bigskygirl said: And what gets me is they took Stephanie Hayman in Season 5 after she started putting on weight. I think the only reason why she was put on the team was the fact she was Brooke's friend and Amy Reese was cut. If she tried out again, she probably would have been cut at finals for her weight. I agree. She probably didn't audition for a 2nd year because Brooke retired. 2 Link to comment
DCCFan197605 April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 Do we think Tara will come back this year? Ever? Do we think Jinelle will remain the top reserve dancer again this year or will another emerge? I haven’t reviewed group photos year over year. If a GL changes group numbers does she take her crew with her? Also, do the numbers track with quality? It seems like they do. 1 Link to comment
bigskygirl April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 (edited) If Tara was smart, she would stay clear. She is probably much happier getting away from the toxic environment and being used by certain people. Edited April 8, 2019 by bigskygirl Link to comment
Holly85 April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, DCCFan197605 said: Do we think Tara will come back this year? Ever? Do we think Jinelle will remain the top reserve dancer again this year or will another emerge? I haven’t reviewed group photos year over year. If a GL changes group numbers does she take her crew with her? Also, do the numbers track with quality? It seems like they do. I don’t think she will she’s still dancing tho 1 Link to comment
pisces125 April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, DCCFan197605 said: I haven’t reviewed group photos year over year. If a GL changes group numbers does she take her crew with her? Also, do the numbers track with quality? It seems like they do. I am also wondering if being GL #1 usually means you are point. Link to comment
Jennv April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, DCCFan197605 said: Do we think Tara will come back this year? Ever? Do we think Jinelle will remain the top reserve dancer again this year or will another emerge? I haven’t reviewed group photos year over year. If a GL changes group numbers does she take her crew with her? Also, do the numbers track with quality? It seems like they do. I think Jinelle might be going back to Australia 3 Link to comment
Holly85 April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jennv said: I think Jinelle might be going back to Australia I think she is to another one of their staff members is leaving as well Judy posted on ig abt saying good bye to some of there staff members 3 Link to comment
Jennv April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Holly85 said: I think she is to another one of their staff members is leaving as well Judy posted on ig abt saying good bye to some of there staff members Yes I saw that post. I saw a comment on a post (I don't remember whose post it was) a couple days ago that seemed to be implying that Jinelle was leaving. I assumed going back home. Link to comment
scorpio1031 April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, pisces125 said: I am also wondering if being GL #1 usually means you are point. I know it’s been discussed before, but right now I can only remember Crystal and Whitney being point without being GL #1 Link to comment
DCCFan197605 April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 38 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said: I know it’s been discussed before, but right now I can only remember Crystal and Whitney being point without being GL #1 Well, and KaShara. 1 hour ago, Jennv said: Yes I saw that post. I saw a comment on a post (I don't remember whose post it was) a couple days ago that seemed to be implying that Jinelle was leaving. I assumed going back home. Well, that breaks my heart. I love, love, love Jinelle. 3 Link to comment
scorpio1031 April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, DCCFan197605 said: Well, and KaShara. Well, that breaks my heart. I love, love, love Jinelle. How could I forget KaShara🙃?? Link to comment
ByTor April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, scorpio1031 said: How could I forget KaShara🙃?? I try my best to 😉 7 6 Link to comment
klopie April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 14 hours ago, EricaShadows said: You hit the nail on the head with that guess, but then again, I haven't been exactly quiet in my dislike of her. The only other girls I could see going are Gabby and Taylor, but there could always be a girl cut that no one saw coming. I think with only 7 willingly retiring we'll see at least 3 or 4 vets cut at finals. Christina's an obvious choice and I definitely see Gabby and Taylor being in danger too for weight and dancing ability. If they go by memory and dancing, Savannah, Ashlee, and Brennan could be in danger but Kelli seems to love all of them for various reasons. I could also see Madeline M being in trouble after they way she was talked about last season. 1 Link to comment
KatieC April 8, 2019 Share April 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, klopie said: I think with only 7 willingly retiring we'll see at least 3 or 4 vets cut at finals. Christina's an obvious choice and I definitely see Gabby and Taylor being in danger too for weight and dancing ability. If they go by memory and dancing, Savannah, Ashlee, and Brennan could be in danger but Kelli seems to love all of them for various reasons. I could also see Madeline M being in trouble after they way she was talked about last season. It will be interesting! I agree any of these ladies could be in trouble. Also I think anyone who had even the smallest infraction during the season has a good chance of not making it back. Edited April 8, 2019 by KatieC 2 Link to comment
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